We promise we’re done talking about Trisha. We wanted to give Donna a chance to explain what happened and we filmed this earlier in the week before Off The Rails ✌️& ❤️
Donna’s worries about the effect of this on Hila’s pregnancy wasn’t an isolated experience. Pretty much everyone, including myself was expressing concern for Hila when Trisha blew up.
lmao that text of donna was fucked up and hypocritical. the drama was BOTH ways if hila was that stressed then ethan would’ve distanced himself and stopped talking about trish. he was the one who decided to talk about trish’s enemies vid about keem. if hila was really that stressed because of the drama he would’ve never. same with the tiktoks and this vid and his last. ethan’s mom just wanted to “get them back” in the lowest way possible. fucked up to put that on a person
Trisha had been sexually assaulted & is so against victim blaming…yet, she will go on the podcast of a man that victim blames women for rape. I can’t stand her
I love that Trisha tried to blackmail you with a private text, so you just read the text publicly. SUCH A POWER MOVE. Fly past that drama Mama Butterfly 🦋
Trisha is very ego centric and immature and Donna is mature and at least twice as experienced so she can power move and not even feel worried. Her existence online now is a power move haha
What Donna said in her text was just true. There isn’t a nice way to say it because it isn’t a nice situation. Trisha shouldn’t have put the family in that position in the first place, and she’s STILL causing stress now.
It’s such a serious situation that could have not only ended up with the baby getting hurt but Hila getting seriously hurt as well. The selfishness in that woman is insane, her apathy is terrifying.
the fact that she was so haunted by the message is only a testament to the weight of its truth...I'm actually relieved that she felt any sort of guilt.
I also think it held so much weight to Trisha bc she doesn’t realize that they’re in the family now. Trisha’s interactions with Ethan and hila reach further than Twitter they have real life consequences. I think Donna was trying to explain that Moses IS family to her therefore Trisha marrying Moses makes Trisha family too. But I have a feeling that Trisha treats this marriage thing like it’s not as serious as it really is? Trisha seems to have such an “internet” mindset when in reality marriage makes her FAMILY to Ethan and hila it’s not just something to post abt on Instagram when you take marriage photos. If Trisha has a child or adopts a child with Moses the child will be cousins to Theodore??? The child’s grandparents will be hila’s PARENTS??? I don’t think Trisha realizes the gravity of getting married into a family. So Trisha thinks Donna overstepped bc they (Trisha) doesn’t comprehend that they are family and family doesn’t pretend to be nice for appearances (all the time at least lol) and when things need to be said they are said. Donna HAS the relationship with Moses to say that to him which is also why she messaged MOSES not Trisha. I would put money on it Trisha only found out abt the text bc they check Moses’ phone and not bc he told Trisha abt it. Edit: I saw the part where Trisha literally says something like, “You don’t know Moses like that” which I think shows Trisha doesn’t see that they’re family now, or is pretending that they don’t know Ethan’s family like that :/
I doubt it truly hurt her in any way, rather just she’s not used to someone being so forward with that raw energy. Donna is a straight queen of thorns.
😂not nearly as bad as Trisha telling Ethan “have fun trying to get pregnant” consciously aware that Hila was struggling & knowing what that’s like, she still multiple times has spoken “negativity” and “cursed” Ethan & Hila while in the process of trying to conceive. But she was just speaking out of emotion or whatever 🐸☕️
Donna basically told moses to get trish in check bc she was stressing out her daughter and unborn grandchild and I see NOTHING wrong with holding her to her craziness
To be fair, Donna's text to Moses was tame. It got straight to the point and reminded them that there can be real consequences to not letting go of the drama.
i agree. i mean obviously a little harsh but she’s ethans mother and hilas/moses’s mother in law so she was upset by the situation and reacted impulsively. she said so herself. i definitely think she could have said worse or even said what she said in more harsh way
@@gabiluvsu2much she didn’t take accountability for going on keemstars podcast after saying if the same thing had been done to her there would have been hell to pay
I’m so glad they spoke about this issue . They took the power away from Trisha and she can no longer hang it over Donnas head like a sick trophy. I feel so bad for Trisha that she lives her life with so much hate in her heart.
Didn’t Trisha also say that if Jessie smiles miscarried it would be Gabbie Hanna’s fault? Wow. She lies so much she even forgets her lies! What a hateful person.
I fully believe you but am very curious to know where exactly this was said so I can use the full quote to clap back at some of the absolute nonsense in some of these comments lol
Mom was realistic and to the point with her PRIVATE message to Moses. Stress can easily cause health problems for anyone, and being someone who is pregnant after fertility issues...they are at much higher risk for miscarriage. I applaud her for confronting Moses for CONDONING what his fiance was doing to his own sister!!. There was no malicious intent in what Mom said...Trish on the other hand, doesn't know how to communicate in any other way besides malice.
Yes, Donna said what the whole room was feeling and worried about. I knew with how Trisha Paytas talked about the message it was Donna standing for peace so Hila could carry her Angel's safely. F-Off TP!
I really don’t mind the Trisha talk. Ethan and those affected deserve to talk about it and say their part. Why not? It’s relevant and important and they should defend themselves and explain the situation. All the fans who complain should relax.
I think the best thing right now for their mental health especially Hila is to just not talk about Trisha, which I can personally understand. Just goes to show what Trisha is doing to them is truly affecting them/their family
@@bloodycrocs I think if Ethan and trisha both shut up it would be the best thing for everyone. People on the internet need to concentrate on there own lives and not pathetic internet drama. 😂
I love how Donna just admits she was being snooty with a smile 😆. No apology. Just admits how she felt and that was the result. I might just be sick of people apologizing, so just someone owning it is refreshing.
Trisha’s response is so telling of their character like “how DARE you remind me of the consequences of MY actions and making ME feel bad about the people I’VE hurt, you’re such a monster” like she basically meant that if (god forbid) Hila was to miscarry, it’d be Trisha who’s having a rough day and not Hila & Ethan.
“We were all thinking it” Yes. Yes we were. I don’t think there was anything vile about Donna’s message to Moses. It was all fax no printer. I find it wild that Trisha says that Gabbie H is awful for putting Jessi Smiles through stress while she is pregnant but does not GAF that she was putting her OWN SISTER IN LAW who is pregnant with HER NIECE/NEPHEW under stress. Side note- just because Hila always appears cool headed and stress free online does not mean that she doesn’t feel some type of anxiety over having a wedge driven between her and her brother or her husband and her brother.
especially when she just went on keemstars podcast, who is known in the jessi smiles case for saying “you can’t rape someone you’re dating” and calling jessi a liar ☺️
She cohosts a drama channel on the internet. She could volunteer or work on clothing kids in need, something less stressful, instead…but she chooses to involve herself in drama online. It’s not like trisha is always right but y’all forget ALL of these people are adults making their own choices, Hila could’ve taken a leave of absence entirely and vacationed to Hawaii for her entire pregnancy but no. And by that logic Keem making fun of her calling her a horse could’ve caused miscarriages too, right? Maybe she shouldn’t be on the internet engaging & commenting on drama if she doesn’t want drama.
@@abbyz13 having intense public drama with a literal family member is way more stressful than someone you arent even close to saying you look like a horse. also we are in the middle of a pandemic so wtf @ the hawaii comment
@@devilishly0angelic not to mention, why would anyone run off to Hawaii when they really shouldn’t have to, because another person doesn’t know how to log off Twitter or Tik Tok and keep family matters just that, family matters.
That’s because Gabbie is just continuously harassing Jessie about her R*PE, while Trisha is engaging in a two sided beef with Ethan, that he continuously invited back into his life.
Did Trisha not think Donna would read out the message on air? Putting responsibility on people ain't that horrific. Especially when there's truth in it.
They took the power away from her to spin her own narrative. She wanted to act like it was so horrible. It's not what Donna said was understandable regarding the situation
i don't think trisha ever realizes she can be held accountable for the bullshit she says with pure facts.. or she just doesn't care because that means she gets double the attention, first for the rumor and then for the backlash..
Can we talk about Moses for a second? Dude is a complete coward for letting his girlfriend talk to his relatives like this. The fact that he even stays with her speaks miles about his bad character. Honestly more mad at him than Trisha cuz he us turning his back on his sister.
I'd guess he's still wearing that smirk from the first photo of him with Paytas. He makes Zach look like an amateur in the crapping on someone's lawn stakes.
It's a little harsh, but...it was literally the truth. Donna just told him the very obvious reality of the situation. If Trisha thinks that Donna is evil for pointing out the obvious she's brain dead. EVERYONE knows how hard Hila and Ethan tried to get pregnant. To then add immense drama and stress to an already delicate pregnancy I personally think TRISHA is the evil one. One may say she tried to make her miscarry out of jealousy, but only Trisha would know the answer to that.
Trisha is dramatic af! Nothing Donna said was bad at all… she stated facts! As a mom I would have been way worse if someone was trying to ruin my sons image and character lol
My issue is how Trisha tried to twist what Donna said when no one knew what she texted to Moses to make herself look like the victim. She's not the victim. She started unnessasary drama because she felt like it. Some people will chalk it up as a mood swing, but it was unnessasary. In no way was Trisha right. She threw a royal tantrum and expected people to forgive her, like they had before, and when they didnt? She threw an even bigger trantrum. Theres no reason for Trisha to make 10+ videos and 15 tiktoks responding to Ethan saying, "this makes me sad." She knows *exactly* what she did and now she's trying to climb back out of the 10ft hole she dug.
The way Donna purely smiles with enthusiasm as he reads the drama is iconic. She has nothing to worry about because she knows what she did and she knows where she stands isn’t filled with exaggerations.
This is so true. Ethan’s mom is a confident and centered person who’s consistent and honest while Trisha is filled with paranoia and insecurity because she knows she’s deceitful and manipulative and can’t control the narrative. So Trisha has these panicked meltdowns and Donna just smiles.
@@daisydearest7669 Not that bad? Blaming someone for if someone miscarries isn’t that bad? Ummm…. I’m not a fan of Trisha, but that was so messed up to say. And a lot of women get stressed out while pregnant because of hormones. If stress truly was the sole cause of miscarriages, then a ton of women would miscarry a lot.
Regarding Donna's message, it's kind of obvious that Trisha was only so upset by it because she would have to live with the guilt if, heaven forbid, something did happen. It didn't upset her because she cares about the family or the baby, she just doesn't like those words uttered because she would have to feel guilty about her actions, instead of ignorantly believing that her behaviour doesn't have consequences. Putting something so serious on her shoulders makes her uncomfortable because she can't excuse her behaviour... But she still tries! She's seriously digging into Donna, as if she's the nasty one, when instead she should be shutting up and listening to what Donna said. It was harsh for it to be put so bluntly in that message but let's face it, we were all thinking it.
Well said Emily. What’s messed up is that Trisha didn’t even consider how the drama might negatively affect Hila’s pregnancy. She feels shook to her core because it’s a REALITY CHECK! Trisha so wrapped up about their own “fertility issues” (hasn’t been actively trying or seeing a fertility expert) and insecurities over it. Uses it as an excuse to play victim over a comment by Donna that was very much true.
Donna's text was a real-life concern of any grandma. It wasn't sugar-coated and may have been a little harsh but she was trying to directly talk to Moses (who she's known for 15 years at this point) and stop him and Trisha in their tracks! The stress they were causing was not good for Hila and the baby and that's whats most important...everyone needed that reality check. My mom probably would do the same and I respect anyone standing up for their family. Also, she probably has known Moses to be pretty level-headed over the years, and didn't expect their private conversation to blow up like this.
The fact that Moses showed her that message knowing how she is (or alternatively Trisha had free range to access Moses’s phone and private conversations with family) is way more messed up to me
I was on my dads health insurance because i was 22 years old, and was suppose to be till i was 26. He took me off a few months before my baby was born without giving me notice or anything. My mother in law texted him and went off him. I was thankful to have her there protecting me and my baby. Its whats GOOD mothers/grandmothers do.
Trisha has said the most evil, vile and disgusting things when she’s been triggered or ‘in her feelings’. Why aren’t others allowed to do the same. Donna’s message to Moses was mild in comparison to what Trisha spews.
Exactly - she didn't think it was 'evil' and 'vile' when she called Hila a C**t on an episode of frenemies. Or when she basically called Hila and Ethan horrible parents for getting a babysitter for Theodore. It's one rule for her and another for everyone else.
And to be honest Donna was kinda right... Trisha and Moses were fucking around with Hila and giving her a lot of stress while she was trying to get pregnant/in her first months of pregnancy and the two of them were not giving a single fuck about it
what was it that trisha said that was at this level of disgusting? dont get me wrong, trisha is not innocent in this situation but donna should not have said that. if its just as disgusting as what trisha said, like you say, why sink to that level?
@@laughterenthusiast1454 what Donna said was a true concern that they had in their family at that time, what's disgusting about it? Stressing with super public family drama a woman in the first month of her pregnancy is normal to you?
the way tr*sha speaks so aggressively, gritting her teeth, finding the harshest words she can.. you can see her thinking of how she can hurt the person she is talking about and how she can make herself seem like a victim. eerily similar to a narcissist i know. i can’t help but think of him every time i see her.
Wait, a few weeks ago, did Trisha not say or imply that if Jessie Smiles had a miscarriage it would be Gabbies fault...? So it's only okay for Trisha to say it orrrr?
oh baby did you forget that trisha is a hypocrite??? she criticizes people for one thing and then does it the next week, if not the next day. she’s conniving
100%. I would not be surprised at ALL if Trisha were doing it intentionally with the hopes that it would affect the pregnancy. They've always been jealous and spiteful, and not being able to conceive is one of their deepest insecurities.
Donna had every right to text that, and she did it with far more class and poise than I would have. Trisha is a demon among us. Her goal from day one was to pull Moses away from his family, but now she's finding out it's not quite as satisfying as she thought it would be.
Disagree. They both are being immature. Telling someone they could be the cause of a miscarriage is extremely harsh. Miscarriages happen all the time for unknown reasons. It would be unfair to blame her. Also cruel because she can't have children of her own.
@@juliabloomfield8623 considering all the stress shes putting on their family its not unfair, its reasonable to text her that. its sad that she cant get pregnant but that doesnt really excuse her actions :/
@@juliabloomfield8623 while I agree it’s harsh to say that she would be the cause to a miscarriage, I do think that it was necessary for Donna to try and shut Trisha up. Trisha’s entire existence on the internet at this point is to stir the pot and cause problems just to gain attention. I see Donna’s message to Moses as a reminder to Trisha (and Moses) that her drama and problematic presence in the family can have dire consequences. With peace and love, immaturity is making 20 videos/tweets/TikToks calling someone a vile and evil person when they just sent one (1) strongly worded, harsh but real PRIVATE text message :)
@@andreavera642 I'm not excusing Trisha either. Trisha is the most immature adult on the internet. I'm just saying they are both in the wrong. Donna should not stoop to Trisha's level. Be the bigger person. It is not fair to put miscarriage on Trisha. If a miscarriage happened it could have been completely unrelated and they would blame Trisha regardless. It isn't right.
The only reason why Trisha is terrified of this „curse“ is bc she knows its the truth. She knows that she caused so much stress to Hila, she always knew subconsciously. And now Ethans mom just put it into words. Thats all she did.
If Trisha genuinely believes that stress does not have any effect on pregnancy, she would not have responded the way she did to Donna texting her that 🤷🏻♀️ she googled it and it said “no” but enough stress on the mind & body is enough for the body to call it quits. I know people who have miscarried from sheer stress in family dramas. I admit 100% that comment was harsh asf, but it is a reality. Hila went through so much just to conceive again, physical pain, hormones all over the place and probably thousands of dollars, all to go to waste for a woman who is doing all of this to get Moses away from his family. Yes, miscarriage can be down to genetics & a fault in the foetus, but during such a vulnerable time stress is the last thing you want. As someone who is also pregnant i genuinely did fear for her. It’s exahausting, nauseating & stressful enough as it is- constantly wondering if the baby is healthy, if you’re eating enough, getitng enough exercise. The last thing someone in her position needs is outside stress and family drama. As someone like Trisha who wants so desperately to conceive, she should be the first to understand how seriously stressful drama like this can be and that pregnant women need to take it easy physically and mentally. And she knows this considering she told Gabbie to f**k off and leave Jessi alone for the same reason Donna asked her to stop with Ethan and Hila 🤷🏻♀️
@@itsmesnitchesxx4032 because Hila knows full well that Ethan is dealing with it & knows exactly what hes doing. That doesnt compare in the slightest to Trisha damaging her literal family.
Trisha literally accused Ethan of S***** harassment. Can’t even imagine the stress and heartbreak of your own family doing that to you. Donna was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT to send that message.
If anyone is guilty of it, it would be Trisha. Some of the things she asked Ethan to do with her (like taking a shower together) would be completely unacceptable in professional environment.
Trisha is literally guilty of putting the exact same burden on people. She did it to Gabbie when she was making videos about Jessi Smiles who is pregnant, and Trisha threatened Moses with su*cide if he didn’t have s3x with her or tried to leave. The latter is even worse than what Donna said because it’s completely emotionally manipulative and unwarranted. Jesus, I wouldn’t blame Hila for feeling on edge.
Sharing the message so that Trisha can’t milk the “curse” for content is probably the best response they could have had. And wishing her well in the process. H3 may not be perfect, but they try harder than anyone else on this platform to live the peace and love lifestyle.
Donna had the right take, Hila adores Moses, and looked up to him as a kid, she said she considered Moses to be her closest sibling and he followed her out to LA, that's love. To have Trisha basically destroy a loving relationship between family, not to mention the fallout from Trisha not wanting Moses to talk to their mom. Trisha could've caused Hila to miscarry.
Trisha acting like what Donna said was such a big deal when it's what EVERYONE was thinking is so damn funny. I guess we're all the vile, disgusting, evil monsters and Trisha is a saint.
@@Kigoz4Life this was in reference to when Hila got pregnant after going through fertility treatment which, was around the period Frenemies ended and Trisha began publicly bashing Ethan, Hila and Frenemies in general. 30:25 "Moses, if your sister has a miscarriage because of this stress, I will hold you and Trisha responsible. Stop this nonsense, enough."
I’m not a fan of Trisha and was a big fan of H3. Only 12 seconds into the video and I see comments mentioning something about miscarriage. I’m sorry but that’s disgusting to even put into the universe, it shouldn’t matter if she could’ve said worse I can’t naturally conceive and my sister has had multiple miscarriages while trying to conceive but if that’s what Dona has said it’s evil and disgusting and had no reason to be mentioned there’s multiple things you can attack Trisha for no need to do that. And honestly the more I watch these videos and read the comments DEFENDING IT, the more I notice everyone in this situation is being a hypocrite both Ethan and Trisha and Dona and Moses and the fan bases in general
Trisha’s getting on my nerves, Donna said nothing wrong. Trisha has said much worse things about Ethan’s whole family and never apologises, Trisha is just selfish 🤷🏾♀️
@@christinelee314 those apologies are automatically invalid the moment you continue with the same behavior. Those apologies mean nothing if there isn't a tually change
I know I actually don't know any of these people, but still, I am so disappointed in Moses. To allow himself to sit on Keem's couch. To make talk and jokes with the man who has been harassing your sister and brother-in-law for years?? To not stop your fiance from going there and shitting on your family? Seriously? Like, Trisha is all sorts of deranged, we already knew that. But Moses is also a snake. All fax, no printer.
It’s scientifically proven that stress during pregnancy Can lead to many horrible complications, even death of the mother carrying the baby, it’s just a literal medical fact so why is Trisha so upset
Cause they know Donna’s right but she acts like it’s something completely false and horrifying cause she can never face the consequences of her actions.
Trish’s inability to cope with her emotions is shining through with the whole text situation. Saying it’s caused her so much turmoil shows that she knows what Donna said is true, and she is unable to cope so she’s turning herself into the victim of her own guilt rather than feeling remorse for her actions.
Trisha can overreact to LITERALLY everything, but when Donna stands up for her daughter in law, that’s too much for her! Like Ethan said, Donna just said what everyone was thinking
Anyone else notice that Donna's text holds Moses equally as accountable but Trisha is out there posting videos saying "what she said to ME/about ME" she is being selfish as always.
Constantly always making things about herself. Any subject and she'll find a way to make it about herself. Very infuriating. Also, just because she says or admits to her wrongdoing doesn't give her a pass, yet she uses that repeatedly like it means something when she's learned nothing and makes no changes to her behavior.
It’s true. Trisha especially needs to be held accountable. None of this would be happening if Moses wasn’t dating someone treating his family like crap.
Considering the way Moses treats his family, Trisha should evaluate if that's the type of person they want to be marrying. Moses is not a good person. The two of them deserve each other
@@CJAmara I know ethan said keen star and trisha deserve eachother and the first thing I thought was how about Moses honestly Moses and trisha are perfect for eachother just horrible people
The reality is, that Trisha was so jealous of Hila’s pregnancy that she didn’t care if she caused her miscarriage. Now she acts like Donna was so out of line… When she was right on the money.
yeah and Trisha as a grown woman couldn take the harsh but true comment with dignity and step back (even though message was directed to moses) and she makes this all about herself ...on how she was cursed lmao. it is really pathetic ;(
@@dr-mon-v3i Trisha is incapable of considering other people. We all know that the pregnancy announcement unleashed that monster but she thinks we didn’t see through that and that she can fool us now.
Donna is a caring mother and mother-in-law, I dont think what she did was anything but perfectly normal and totally called for. Id have said much MUCH worse if it were me. Kudos to Donna!
Trisha CANNOT handle anyone holding a mirror to her face….I’m so glad Frenemies showed her for what she is. I hope Hila can find peace with Moses some day when Trisha is in the rear view.
I mean there's like 40 years difference between them lol, you have to imagine this petty bullshit doesn't matter to her at all, Donna is just having fun on RUclips and doesn't give a shit about fake drama from people half her age
It’s utterly vile to me that Moses would go with Trisha to a person’s house who has done nothing but slander and harass his sister/family for years. Your sister is PREGNANT and you have no compassion for her well-being, as you’re willing to be in the same room as the person who has caused such misery for your family. So disgusting.
Moses and Trasha are the absolute worst. Donna you don’t need to justify a thing. You said what any normal sane grandmother would say. And Ethan saying their in love. Oh please no one who loves their partner would do this to their family and cause this type of wedge between them! Urgh! Disgusting vile human being.
It’s becoming painfully clear that Moses might be worse than Trisha. What kind of man chooses to side with a fiancé they’ve only known a year who physically abused him over his little sister?! It’s so fucking sad. Hila seems like such a kind and gentle person too. 🥺
Everyone is in LOVE with Donna, which how could you not love her, but Ethans dad is honestly SO FUCKING FUNNY THOUGH. Very behind the scenes humor. “We’re gonna come to the wedding anyway! I’m gonna wear a disguise” laughed my fucking ass off at that.
Also donna’s message she sent is what everyone’s been saying in the comments for a while because it is true. Hila is pregnant and putting her through so much stress with her own family. It’s not harsh, it’s the truth and Trisha just didn’t want to accept that their actions actually affect other people’s lives in a deep way.
@@clarewarp1384 have you seen her recent tweets? I am disgusted , everyone knows early pregnancy is such a vulnerable and sensitive time , she is dumb if she thinks her actions would cause no harm
@@clarewarp1384 I was just going to say that. Instead of realizing the weight of her actions and thinking "Oh shit, this could be having serious negative effects towards my sister-in-law and her unborn child I should stop" Trisha instead used it to try to turn people against Donna, which you'd think Trisha would know that ain't gonna happen. She's jealous Donna took her spot on the show and people genuinely love Donna.
@@Jreaddy Trisha is so nasty inside that she can’t sustain life and she doesn’t want anyone else to. She’s a jealous hateful person and that’s her karma. 🤷🏻♀️
We could all feel Trishas jealousy when Hila got pregnant… Trisha is the one sending out bad energy. Good for Dona for standing up and saying what should had been said! 🦋🦋
^^ this!! As soon as Trisha showed her anger about the frenemies podcast being titled “pregnancy announcement” instead of “Trisha reacting to the pregnancy” it was clear she was just so jealous and trying to disguise it as that she was just angry about recycling content. She can’t deal with the attention not being on her
@@IloveJesusway2God these are accusations we shouldn’t throw around. I’m not a fan of Trisha but it did seem she was more upset because she couldn’t or struggles to have kids herself (again not a fan of her so don’t know which it is). Being someone who can’t have kids naturally either I do understand why that would’ve deeply hurt her feelings that does not justify her actions at all by the way. And you can’t take something bad that 1000% Dona said and try to twist it on a “maybe this maybe that” situation back to Trisha. Regardless if that’s what Trisha wanted or not it’s disgusting of Dona to even put that out into the universe I’m sorry I was a big fan of H3 but that’s too far.
Yep! I believe that was the trigger for Trisha to unleash her wrath. And she's also jealous of the fact that Ethan and Hila's relationship is so stable and have been for years, something she's incapable of! I just take comfort in the fact that they all have each other's back against Trisha so she can hopefully not break them apart since she's hellbent on doing that as revenge.
It kinda feels like Trisha thought she could hold that message against Ethan and Donna and genuinely thought they wouldn’t read it out loud. It wasn’t even that bad.
Trisha flat out said they "couldn't speak of the message for a few months" aka, they wanted to hold it over the Kleins until their views dropped enough that they needed another scandal
@@discopumps Donna has every right to fear this for her daughter in law going through it herself. H3 really feared even talking about it too soon the first time around over that fear. It’s common af and true trauma to a women which Trisha will never be or experienced cause she can’t fake this one. The heartbreak I hear from my own mother and close friends who just experienced this in their first attempt to start a family is tragic life changing trauma.
Any discerning person who saw just even one of Trisha's toxic outbursts could tell she was totally blowing that text message out of proportion. Glad Donna read the text.
literally if they never read the text trish would have continued to play it up as if everyone was not concerned for hilas pregnancy during her stressful outbursts
That message was not harsh whatsoever, it was the reality check Trisha and Moses needed and Donna was the only brave person saying it. The funny thing is it didn’t even cause her to rethink her actions. If it was so “haunting” to you, I would imagine you would stop causing the stress all together. And Moses is just as guilty for enabling it
Narcissists don’t like it when they meet someone they can’t manipulate, who hold clear strong boundaries. They will start the smear campaigns and obsess so damn hard. Albeit a bit messy with family drama online, Donna, as a grandmother, is looking out for her kin. It’s a reasonable thing to say stop the stress for pregnancy. Its harsh truth, but a truth Trisha will never respect.
Woaahh once you said that it all clicked it my head. She’s totally a narcissist. Once a narcissist gets called out, it’s literally like summoning a demon, just watching her have these embarrassing melt downs reminds me of some pretty toxic family members of my own.
atleast donna has revealed what the message was, now trisha can’t hold it above their heads. also given the context, i think the text is 100% reasonable. it’s obviously a normal thing to be worried about a close family member having a miscarriage.
This is my exact thought, not only does she care about her son,but her huge golden heart shows how much she cares about daughter in law and her grand babies. Shes a good woman. An not many grandmas would have been so straight forward and firm with how she worded her message. Proud of the Donarch 💙💙
I was a Trisha fan for YEARS and the last 5 years shes dug herself in a deeper hole….I cannot stand her anymore. I am an Ethan/Hila fan too and they’ve grown so much!
What Donna said was EXACTLY what everyone was thinking. We all were concerned, as it’s common knowledge how detrimental stress can be in early pregnancy. And as the grandma, Donna had every right to remind Hila’s brother (who is encouraging Trisha’s insanity and NEEDED this reminder) that this repercussion exists. Good for them for announcing what was said before Trish could continue blowing it out of proportion.
What Donna said was true, if Hila had a miscarriage it would've been Trisha's fault, its insane to me that Moses is so spineless that he lets her talk to his family this way. If I was him I would've called off the marriage a long time ago.
@@petrosinella He really loves the sx more like. Which for some reason for me is even more disgusting. Choosing money over hs family is awful, but choosing pssy over his family is like, creepy.
I don't think Trisha wanted to share the text so she could completely over exaggerate it to make Donna look horrible and probably didn't expect them to share the texts, but now Trisha has no power anymore to try to "destroy" them since the texts wasn't really that harmful as she made it seem
Trish be like: It was dis.gus.ting. Vile. Horrific. Sick. Blasphemous. Evil. More foul than Satan himself. The worst text anyone has sent in the history of cell phones. Worse than anything Hitler ever said or did. Nothing that has ever happened in the history of the universe has been worse than Donna's text.
it doesnt even make sense that trisha is calling it a curse. that would mean that the curse was on Hila just to make Trisha feel bad? I think what trisha is mythologizing as a curse is simply guilt. A human feeling which apparently burns them like holy water.
Donna's message was just facts. She told Moses the truth. Hila could have very well miscarried from the stress. Just being a viewer is was too stressful, I had to stop watching alot of what was going on. I cant imagine how heartbreaking and upsetting this was for hila. I think Moses and trisha would have rightfully been blamed for it.
I would never let anyone blame my brother if I have a miscarriage. Like that’s no one’s fault. Ethan could have easily ignored Trisha. Hila doesn’t even read comments or is on social media so much. Donnas text was toxic and for her age she should have known better. Moses is Hilas brother. I feel bad for hila and Moses mom so much drama because of the Americans
Donna probably had a lot more insight to behind the scenes and how toxic things really were. It just makes the fact Trisha keeps trying to get a rise out of them even more heartbreaking.
Why do people think pregnant women are so delicate that a minor bit of drama would cause a miscarriage? One of the stereotypical tropes is the husband cheating on the pregnant wife, which is enormous stress far beyond trisha doing what trisha does, and those women don't lose their babies. Pregnant women endure being abused, homeless, abandoned, and working full-time all thru pregnancy. Arguments aren't going to cause a miscarriage ffs.
now i see why Shane said he didn't believe her about Jeffree. Cause she is a sociopath and pathological liar and makes up everything for public sympathy.
The story Jeffree told was that Trish stayed high all weekend. Apparently she left a bag , with her camera , in a store. And someone from Jeffree's camp found it and gave it to Jeffree. She was late for things and also according to Jeffree's camp stoned out of her mind , acting weird. That's the reason why Shane didn't know which story was correct.
Bruh all those stories that she told on frenemies is a lie( except for some) I doubt she slept with robin williams, and had sex with a guy in the middle of a restaurant. That’s why she never wanted to repeat it or was reluctant to continue on with the story cause she knows she was full of shit
@@nevermind19700 I always figured she was probably high on that trip, and that Jeffree was likely a "bully" as a result. His mom was an addict growing up, it's probably really triggering for him to be around that shit......
Trisha: “I’VE been carrying this. This has affected ME so much.” You’re literally talking about Hila being pregnant and how you’re potentially affecting her…
ethan’s right, surely everyone thought what donna texted moses. hila’s pregnancy was the first thing i thought of when the fall out between ethan and trish happened and i was so concerned for them when trisha went on the war path.
Donna’s message to Moses is exactly what so many of us were commenting and thinking. It was an EXTREMELY vulnerable and crucial time for Hila and the baby and it’s terrible that so much of this pregnancy has had a black cloud over it because of the things that have been said and continue to be said about Ethan and his family. Hoping the rest of this pregnancy can be positive and wonderful for the entire family.
The text read: "Moses, if your sister (Hila) has a miscarriage because of this stress, I will hold you and Trisha responsible. Stop this nonsense, enough!" (30:18)
Not going to lie as a mother myself I was worried about Hila and the stress that was going on. Trisha wouldn’t stop, and Moses should have put a stop to it
@@barbarahayes7441 I am so sorry 😞 I lost a baby as well and stress is a huge factor and I was out of my first trimester, my husband and I were fighting a lot (we are better than ever now) but it’s devastating. It can cause them to be under developed and more, and I get Trisha doesn’t fully grasp that but she didn’t care either, and that’s where I got irritated
We promise we’re done talking about Trisha. We wanted to give Donna a chance to explain what happened and we filmed this earlier in the week before Off The Rails ✌️& ❤️
Ok
love you guys and especially DONNA
Hi:)
Peace and love! ❤
Thank you
Trisha: HIS MOM IS THE DEVIL
Donna: 🙂🦋🦋🦋
lmao her smiling at 22:20
OMG so true, Donna litterarily is the embodiment of peace and love
RIGHT
that’s the way i would describe trisha not donna 💀
I commented on Trishas video that if donna is Satan then Trisha is Satan’s arsehole and Trisha deleted my comment ✊🏼😔
Donna’s worries about the effect of this on Hila’s pregnancy wasn’t an isolated experience. Pretty much everyone, including myself was expressing concern for Hila when Trisha blew up.
100% we were all thinking it
lmao that text of donna was fucked up and hypocritical. the drama was BOTH ways if hila was that stressed then ethan would’ve distanced himself and stopped talking about trish. he was the one who decided to talk about trish’s enemies vid about keem. if hila was really that stressed because of the drama he would’ve never. same with the tiktoks and this vid and his last. ethan’s mom just wanted to “get them back” in the lowest way possible. fucked up to put that on a person
Exactly
THIS
Literally half the comments regarding Trisha's ridiculous amount of reactionary videos and tweets was concern over Hila's pregnancy
“She’s entitled to her feelings, it doesn’t mean she’s right” Donna hit the nail on the head here
Yessss
Trisha had been sexually assaulted & is so against victim blaming…yet, she will go on the podcast of a man that victim blames women for rape. I can’t stand her
Maybe the man with the scary beard who has a god complex offered her the 5 percent.
OH MY GOD!!! I died standing up 😂😂😂 that shit was great!! whoooooo
sHe WeNt oN tO hAvE aN oPeN cOnVeRsAtiOn
Good take Dr. Stine
That’s how you know she lies about going to therapy because any one who actually has gone to therapy would’ve not done any of that
donna: * giggling with her butterflies *
trisha: "SHE'S LITERALLY SATAN"
LMAOOOOOO
projecting so fucking hard smh
Im weeaak
She’s literally a cute grandma
Trisha calls everyone evil for the same reason Gabbie calls everyone a narcissist.
Gary saying him and Donna gonna crash Trisha's wedding disguised as Hasidic Jews has me in tears
LMAOO
IM SCREAMING
Omg 💀😭
nah u dont understand how loud i howled 😭😭😭
i love how i read this at it happened
I love that Trisha tried to blackmail you with a private text, so you just read the text publicly. SUCH A POWER MOVE.
Fly past that drama Mama Butterfly 🦋
It’s hella a power move 😂
Trisha is very ego centric and immature and Donna is mature and at least twice as experienced so she can power move and not even feel worried. Her existence online now is a power move haha
DUDE. When Donna looks at the camera for intensity 😳
Pls Donna message my enemies.
What Donna said in her text was just true. There isn’t a nice way to say it because it isn’t a nice situation. Trisha shouldn’t have put the family in that position in the first place, and she’s STILL causing stress now.
it was so minimal its a non issue after trisha called hila a cunt and everyone smoothed it over
It’s such a serious situation that could have not only ended up with the baby getting hurt but Hila getting seriously hurt as well. The selfishness in that woman is insane, her apathy is terrifying.
@@mr.avocadoman7486 yet will pretend to be the victim in every situation
the fact that she was so haunted by the message is only a testament to the weight of its truth...I'm actually relieved that she felt any sort of guilt.
I also think it held so much weight to Trisha bc she doesn’t realize that they’re in the family now. Trisha’s interactions with Ethan and hila reach further than Twitter they have real life consequences. I think Donna was trying to explain that Moses IS family to her therefore Trisha marrying Moses makes Trisha family too. But I have a feeling that Trisha treats this marriage thing like it’s not as serious as it really is? Trisha seems to have such an “internet” mindset when in reality marriage makes her FAMILY to Ethan and hila it’s not just something to post abt on Instagram when you take marriage photos. If Trisha has a child or adopts a child with Moses the child will be cousins to Theodore??? The child’s grandparents will be hila’s PARENTS??? I don’t think Trisha realizes the gravity of getting married into a family. So Trisha thinks Donna overstepped bc they (Trisha) doesn’t comprehend that they are family and family doesn’t pretend to be nice for appearances (all the time at least lol) and when things need to be said they are said. Donna HAS the relationship with Moses to say that to him which is also why she messaged MOSES not Trisha. I would put money on it Trisha only found out abt the text bc they check Moses’ phone and not bc he told Trisha abt it.
Edit: I saw the part where Trisha literally says something like, “You don’t know Moses like that” which I think shows Trisha doesn’t see that they’re family now, or is pretending that they don’t know Ethan’s family like that :/
I doubt it truly hurt her in any way, rather just she’s not used to someone being so forward with that raw energy. Donna is a straight queen of thorns.
Yep!!!
So true! She was so angry as a projection of her guilt instead of just saying sorry for causing so much stress
Don’t think she felt guilty at all.. just saw it as an opportunity to make herself the victim once again
Trisha: “DONNA KLEIN IS VILE AND EVIL!”
Donna: *Dresses up as a butterfly and presents a dissertation on how to save them*
I love your user name
They are all frauds and you are all shills 🤗🤣
Um trying to justify a miscarriage blame?
@@f3l7p4dssmoothgaming8 and you are here lol
Hahaha perfect description of Queen Donna 🦋👸🦋
😂not nearly as bad as Trisha telling Ethan “have fun trying to get pregnant” consciously aware that Hila was struggling & knowing what that’s like, she still multiple times has spoken “negativity” and “cursed” Ethan & Hila while in the process of trying to conceive. But she was just speaking out of emotion or whatever 🐸☕️
Whoa, she said that? I mean, I wouldn't put it past her, but that's sick. Do you remember when or where that was said??
100% the way she said it was vile
Trisha has the mindset if I can't have it ,Noone should
@@crimson3356 I think episode 5 of frenemies it was really insensitive 💔
@@crimson3356 it was during one of the frenemies, maybe like 4/5 eps in
I’m such a hardcore Donna stan. The smile when she said “I was being snooty” is so iconic. Donnarch 4 life
Right?? She’s the best! Haha
Same 🥺😭
She's brilliant
Donna basically told moses to get trish in check bc she was stressing out her daughter and unborn grandchild and I see NOTHING wrong with holding her to her craziness
💯
unrelated but you are insanely beautiful
To be fair, Donna's text to Moses was tame. It got straight to the point and reminded them that there can be real consequences to not letting go of the drama.
Ethan can’t let go of the drama
@@emilyhinojosa1005 Trisha is that you 🤨
@@emilyhinojosa1005 you’re wrong
@@Stephanie.922 yikes you're creepy
i agree. i mean obviously a little harsh but she’s ethans mother and hilas/moses’s mother in law so she was upset by the situation and reacted impulsively. she said so herself. i definitely think she could have said worse or even said what she said in more harsh way
“I was being snooty” is more accountability than Trisha has ever taken for anything.
She literally said “I felt like it” 🤣🤣 rightfully so tho!
AHAHAHAAAAA true that
Trisha takes accountability she just doesn’t change her behavior
@@gabiluvsu2much she didn’t take accountability for going on keemstars podcast after saying if the same thing had been done to her there would have been hell to pay
@@gabiluvsu2much she won’t take accountability for poisoning this family
Idk if she’s taking accountability 5 out of 100 times I don’t think it counts
I’m so glad they spoke about this issue . They took the power away from Trisha and she can no longer hang it over Donnas head like a sick trophy. I feel so bad for Trisha that she lives her life with so much hate in her heart.
Imagine going after a beautiful woman like Donna
She wants you to FEEL BAD
Trisha is a millionaire and has all the tools available to change yet chooses not to
All her videos are detached from reality. That girl needs to get off the computer.
Damn shame, I bet Trisha was looking forward to those 400 videos
Didn’t Trisha also say that if Jessie smiles miscarried it would be Gabbie Hanna’s fault? Wow. She lies so much she even forgets her lies! What a hateful person.
I fully believe you but am very curious to know where exactly this was said so I can use the full quote to clap back at some of the absolute nonsense in some of these comments lol
Omg commenting to boost if this happened
Yeah she def said something about gabbie harassing jessi and bringing it all up while she’s pregnant
Omg I want to see!
Wait I reeeeeally feel like this happened, someone dig this up
Mom was realistic and to the point with her PRIVATE message to Moses. Stress can easily cause health problems for anyone, and being someone who is pregnant after fertility issues...they are at much higher risk for miscarriage. I applaud her for confronting Moses for CONDONING what his fiance was doing to his own sister!!. There was no malicious intent in what Mom said...Trish on the other hand, doesn't know how to communicate in any other way besides malice.
Very well said👏🏻
Yep
💯💯💯
This is exactly right, very well said
Yes, Donna said what the whole room was feeling and worried about. I knew with how Trisha Paytas talked about the message it was Donna standing for peace so Hila could carry her Angel's safely. F-Off TP!
I really don’t mind the Trisha talk. Ethan and those affected deserve to talk about it and say their part. Why not? It’s relevant and important and they should defend themselves and explain the situation. All the fans who complain should relax.
I like hearing their perspectives too but T thrives on attention. The healthiest thing to do is draw a line under it.
I think the best thing right now for their mental health especially Hila is to just not talk about Trisha, which I can personally understand. Just goes to show what Trisha is doing to them is truly affecting them/their family
i love drama
@@bloodycrocs I think if Ethan and trisha both shut up it would be the best thing for everyone. People on the internet need to concentrate on there own lives and not pathetic internet drama. 😂
Sin llo
I love how Donna just admits she was being snooty with a smile 😆. No apology. Just admits how she felt and that was the result.
I might just be sick of people apologizing, so just someone owning it is refreshing.
it’s nice to see someone not give a false apology that’s not genuine LMAO
Let’s be real there was no apology owed 🤷🏼♀️
Trisha’s response is so telling of their character like “how DARE you remind me of the consequences of MY actions and making ME feel bad about the people I’VE hurt, you’re such a monster” like she basically meant that if (god forbid) Hila was to miscarry, it’d be Trisha who’s having a rough day and not Hila & Ethan.
"it's allways about her"
@@funkalicious02 you really just stole my viral tweet about her 😂
Period
This! 🙏🏻🙌🏻
@@JM-mr6pz lmao imagine that. I hate when people steal viral shit it’s happened to me before
“We were all thinking it” Yes. Yes we were. I don’t think there was anything vile about Donna’s message to Moses. It was all fax no printer. I find it wild that Trisha says that Gabbie H is awful for putting Jessi Smiles through stress while she is pregnant but does not GAF that she was putting her OWN SISTER IN LAW who is pregnant with HER NIECE/NEPHEW under stress.
Side note- just because Hila always appears cool headed and stress free online does not mean that she doesn’t feel some type of anxiety over having a wedge driven between her and her brother or her husband and her brother.
especially when she just went on keemstars podcast, who is known in the jessi smiles case for saying “you can’t rape someone you’re dating” and calling jessi a liar ☺️
She cohosts a drama channel on the internet. She could volunteer or work on clothing kids in need, something less stressful, instead…but she chooses to involve herself in drama online. It’s not like trisha is always right but y’all forget ALL of these people are adults making their own choices, Hila could’ve taken a leave of absence entirely and vacationed to Hawaii for her entire pregnancy but no. And by that logic Keem making fun of her calling her a horse could’ve caused miscarriages too, right? Maybe she shouldn’t be on the internet engaging & commenting on drama if she doesn’t want drama.
@@abbyz13 having intense public drama with a literal family member is way more stressful than someone you arent even close to saying you look like a horse. also we are in the middle of a pandemic so wtf @ the hawaii comment
@@devilishly0angelic not to mention, why would anyone run off to Hawaii when they really shouldn’t have to, because another person doesn’t know how to log off Twitter or Tik Tok and keep family matters just that, family matters.
That’s because Gabbie is just continuously harassing Jessie about her R*PE, while Trisha is engaging in a two sided beef with Ethan, that he continuously invited back into his life.
Did Trisha not think Donna would read out the message on air? Putting responsibility on people ain't that horrific. Especially when there's truth in it.
Lol right people would see her overreacting again like the last time she leaked texts.
At least she has hilas back not like Moses
Facts no print.
They took the power away from her to spin her own narrative. She wanted to act like it was so horrible. It's not what Donna said was understandable regarding the situation
i don't think trisha ever realizes she can be held accountable for the bullshit she says with pure facts.. or she just doesn't care because that means she gets double the attention, first for the rumor and then for the backlash..
Can we talk about Moses for a second? Dude is a complete coward for letting his girlfriend talk to his relatives like this. The fact that he even stays with her speaks miles about his bad character. Honestly more mad at him than Trisha cuz he us turning his back on his sister.
there has to be something he’s getting from this relationship. and i’m not sure it’s love.
I'd guess he's still wearing that smirk from the first photo of him with Paytas. He makes Zach look like an amateur in the crapping on someone's lawn stakes.
It's a little harsh, but...it was literally the truth. Donna just told him the very obvious reality of the situation. If Trisha thinks that Donna is evil for pointing out the obvious she's brain dead. EVERYONE knows how hard Hila and Ethan tried to get pregnant. To then add immense drama and stress to an already delicate pregnancy I personally think TRISHA is the evil one. One may say she tried to make her miscarry out of jealousy, but only Trisha would know the answer to that.
Trisha is dramatic af! Nothing Donna said was bad at all… she stated facts!
As a mom I would have been way worse if someone was trying to ruin my sons image and character lol
do you have the time stamp?
RIGHT ITS HARSH AND SAID OUT OF FEELING, like how many things has Trisha said out of that type of feeling too? EXACTLY ur right on the point.
My issue is how Trisha tried to twist what Donna said when no one knew what she texted to Moses to make herself look like the victim. She's not the victim. She started unnessasary drama because she felt like it. Some people will chalk it up as a mood swing, but it was unnessasary. In no way was Trisha right. She threw a royal tantrum and expected people to forgive her, like they had before, and when they didnt? She threw an even bigger trantrum. Theres no reason for Trisha to make 10+ videos and 15 tiktoks responding to Ethan saying, "this makes me sad." She knows *exactly* what she did and now she's trying to climb back out of the 10ft hole she dug.
@@chickenstock2591 around 30 min mark
The way Donna purely smiles with enthusiasm as he reads the drama is iconic. She has nothing to worry about because she knows what she did and she knows where she stands isn’t filled with exaggerations.
This is so true. Ethan’s mom is a confident and centered person who’s consistent and honest while Trisha is filled with paranoia and insecurity because she knows she’s deceitful and manipulative and can’t control the narrative. So Trisha has these panicked meltdowns and Donna just smiles.
@@pizzelle2 worded perfectly 💪
That text isn't even that bad. I thought she sent big block of text but it was jsut text of women that is protective of her child
Holy Marx, I did not expect for the comment to blow up lmfao
@@daisydearest7669 Not that bad? Blaming someone for if someone miscarries isn’t that bad? Ummm…. I’m not a fan of Trisha, but that was so messed up to say. And a lot of women get stressed out while pregnant because of hormones. If stress truly was the sole cause of miscarriages, then a ton of women would miscarry a lot.
Regarding Donna's message, it's kind of obvious that Trisha was only so upset by it because she would have to live with the guilt if, heaven forbid, something did happen. It didn't upset her because she cares about the family or the baby, she just doesn't like those words uttered because she would have to feel guilty about her actions, instead of ignorantly believing that her behaviour doesn't have consequences. Putting something so serious on her shoulders makes her uncomfortable because she can't excuse her behaviour... But she still tries! She's seriously digging into Donna, as if she's the nasty one, when instead she should be shutting up and listening to what Donna said. It was harsh for it to be put so bluntly in that message but let's face it, we were all thinking it.
you're so right
Bullseye! She doesn't want to feel responsible for her actions. Very well said.
You hit the nail right on the head 👏
Totally agree
Well said Emily. What’s messed up is that Trisha didn’t even consider how the drama might negatively affect Hila’s pregnancy. She feels shook to her core because it’s a REALITY CHECK! Trisha so wrapped up about their own “fertility issues” (hasn’t been actively trying or seeing a fertility expert) and insecurities over it. Uses it as an excuse to play victim over a comment by Donna that was very much true.
Ethan’s dad “I’m surprised the message didn’t catch on fire it was so horrid” I laughed my ass off 🤣🤣🤣
“COVER YOUR EARS ITS THE WORST MESSAGE YOUVE EVER HEARD” LMAOSNSKD
Donna's text was a real-life concern of any grandma. It wasn't sugar-coated and may have been a little harsh but she was trying to directly talk to Moses (who she's known for 15 years at this point) and stop him and Trisha in their tracks! The stress they were causing was not good for Hila and the baby and that's whats most important...everyone needed that reality check. My mom probably would do the same and I respect anyone standing up for their family. Also, she probably has known Moses to be pretty level-headed over the years, and didn't expect their private conversation to blow up like this.
I have also seen many fans comment stuff similar to donna her text message. I feel like we were all thinking it.
The fact that Moses showed her that message knowing how she is (or alternatively Trisha had free range to access Moses’s phone and private conversations with family) is way more messed up to me
stop speaking for hila. only she knows if it affects her or not and I dont think it does
I was on my dads health insurance because i was 22 years old, and was suppose to be till i was 26. He took me off a few months before my baby was born without giving me notice or anything. My mother in law texted him and went off him. I was thankful to have her there protecting me and my baby. Its whats GOOD mothers/grandmothers do.
@@cafezo87934 you just spoke for her yourself? lmao
Trisha has said the most evil, vile and disgusting things when she’s been triggered or ‘in her feelings’. Why aren’t others allowed to do the same. Donna’s message to Moses was mild in comparison to what Trisha spews.
Exactly - she didn't think it was 'evil' and 'vile' when she called Hila a C**t on an episode of frenemies. Or when she basically called Hila and Ethan horrible parents for getting a babysitter for Theodore. It's one rule for her and another for everyone else.
And to be honest Donna was kinda right... Trisha and Moses were fucking around with Hila and giving her a lot of stress while she was trying to get pregnant/in her first months of pregnancy and the two of them were not giving a single fuck about it
what was it that trisha said that was at this level of disgusting? dont get me wrong, trisha is not innocent in this situation but donna should not have said that. if its just as disgusting as what trisha said, like you say, why sink to that level?
@@laughterenthusiast1454 what Donna said was a true concern that they had in their family at that time, what's disgusting about it? Stressing with super public family drama a woman in the first month of her pregnancy is normal to you?
AND MOST OF ALL DONNAS MESSAGE WAS PRIVATE LMFAO
Donna calling Def Noodles "Wet Noodle" has me fuckin CRYINGGGGGG
Grilled cheese 👀
😂😂🤣🤣
He used that name for this mornings update!
They have to make a sound bite out of it!!!
He is now self identifying as Wet Noodles in his videos. 😂
the way tr*sha speaks so aggressively, gritting her teeth, finding the harshest words she can.. you can see her thinking of how she can hurt the person she is talking about and how she can make herself seem like a victim. eerily similar to a narcissist i know. i can’t help but think of him every time i see her.
Moses truly is water. He takes any shape that's convenient
Damn this is deep haha
But true
Best comment
I choked on my ramen noodles reading this 😂 so sad but so true
Especially the most profitable one that gets him the most clout on social media
Trisha: Donna is the worst. The most vile, corrupted, evil person.
Donna: I’m gonna say it, I’m glad I’m not going to your wedding!
What a savage!
😂
😎👍 she savage
Donna: if Hila has a miscarriage then it’s your fault
Perfectly responsible lol anyone who says Donna is evil for saying it, has to TOUCH GRASS 🤣
DONNA U ARE MY BESTIE
Ethan literally said hes jealous of you Adam you are a CELEBRITY
awwh i love you so much Adam!!! You're the best!!
we love you adam!!
She's right about those 3 tea channels I watch def noodles you and hot tea also Nick/Dustin ☮️
I was hoping she was going to say your name!!! So cute 💕
Wait, a few weeks ago, did Trisha not say or imply that if Jessie Smiles had a miscarriage it would be Gabbies fault...? So it's only okay for Trisha to say it orrrr?
oh baby did you forget that trisha is a hypocrite??? she criticizes people for one thing and then does it the next week, if not the next day. she’s conniving
Trisha being a hypocrite??!!!? Shocker... not!
@@batorsagandszerelem4474 i love the donna format 🤣🤣🤣
OMFGG TEAAAAAAA OMFG
HOLY DUCK UR SO SMART WTFFWTWFWTWFWTWFSTWFSTWFST
The way Donna smiles so innocently after she said “I was being snooty 😇” 😂
Shes cute:)
I wish I was half as sweet and cute while I was being snooty as Donna is. She is the ultimate mama bear
Omg my favorite 😂
The only reason Trisha is so upset by Donna’s text is because she knows it’s true.
100%. I would not be surprised at ALL if Trisha were doing it intentionally with the hopes that it would affect the pregnancy. They've always been jealous and spiteful, and not being able to conceive is one of their deepest insecurities.
ALL FAX NO PRINTER
Getting so defensive proves she knew she was messing around too far.
Soooooooo true
No. That is a horrible text to send.
I'm feeling the lighter pastel colors in the backdrop
The darkness is gone, ain’t it. 🙂👏🏼
Yup!
Gives it a more innocent vibe for sure.
Gabbie hanna butterflies video vibes 🤪
Same its so refreshing
Donna had every right to text that, and she did it with far more class and poise than I would have. Trisha is a demon among us. Her goal from day one was to pull Moses away from his family, but now she's finding out it's not quite as satisfying as she thought it would be.
Disagree. They both are being immature. Telling someone they could be the cause of a miscarriage is extremely harsh. Miscarriages happen all the time for unknown reasons. It would be unfair to blame her. Also cruel because she can't have children of her own.
among us
@@juliabloomfield8623 considering all the stress shes putting on their family its not unfair, its reasonable to text her that. its sad that she cant get pregnant but that doesnt really excuse her actions :/
@@juliabloomfield8623 while I agree it’s harsh to say that she would be the cause to a miscarriage, I do think that it was necessary for Donna to try and shut Trisha up. Trisha’s entire existence on the internet at this point is to stir the pot and cause problems just to gain attention. I see Donna’s message to Moses as a reminder to Trisha (and Moses) that her drama and problematic presence in the family can have dire consequences. With peace and love, immaturity is making 20 videos/tweets/TikToks calling someone a vile and evil person when they just sent one (1) strongly worded, harsh but real PRIVATE text message :)
@@andreavera642 I'm not excusing Trisha either. Trisha is the most immature adult on the internet. I'm just saying they are both in the wrong. Donna should not stoop to Trisha's level. Be the bigger person. It is not fair to put miscarriage on Trisha. If a miscarriage happened it could have been completely unrelated and they would blame Trisha regardless. It isn't right.
The only reason why Trisha is terrified of this „curse“ is bc she knows its the truth. She knows that she caused so much stress to Hila, she always knew subconsciously. And now Ethans mom just put it into words. Thats all she did.
And as Ethan admits EVERYONE was thinking the same thing so she did what had to be done
If Trisha genuinely believes that stress does not have any effect on pregnancy, she would not have responded the way she did to Donna texting her that 🤷🏻♀️ she googled it and it said “no” but enough stress on the mind & body is enough for the body to call it quits. I know people who have miscarried from sheer stress in family dramas. I admit 100% that comment was harsh asf, but it is a reality. Hila went through so much just to conceive again, physical pain, hormones all over the place and probably thousands of dollars, all to go to waste for a woman who is doing all of this to get Moses away from his family.
Yes, miscarriage can be down to genetics & a fault in the foetus, but during such a vulnerable time stress is the last thing you want. As someone who is also pregnant i genuinely did fear for her. It’s exahausting, nauseating & stressful enough as it is- constantly wondering if the baby is healthy, if you’re eating enough, getitng enough exercise. The last thing someone in her position needs is outside stress and family drama. As someone like Trisha who wants so desperately to conceive, she should be the first to understand how seriously stressful drama like this can be and that pregnant women need to take it easy physically and mentally. And she knows this considering she told Gabbie to f**k off and leave Jessi alone for the same reason Donna asked her to stop with Ethan and Hila 🤷🏻♀️
exactly. She wouldn't have said the EXACT same thing about Gabbie if she didn't believe it was possible.
@@itsmesnitchesxx4032 They're rich af, getting sued means nothing to them.
@@itsmesnitchesxx4032 because Hila knows full well that Ethan is dealing with it & knows exactly what hes doing. That doesnt compare in the slightest to Trisha damaging her literal family.
Trisha literally accused Ethan of S***** harassment. Can’t even imagine the stress and heartbreak of your own family doing that to you. Donna was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT to send that message.
trasha has always been trashy, who knew
Totally agree. The Klein’s could say so much worse
If anyone is guilty of it, it would be Trisha. Some of the things she asked Ethan to do with her (like taking a shower together) would be completely unacceptable in professional environment.
Trisha is literally guilty of putting the exact same burden on people. She did it to Gabbie when she was making videos about Jessi Smiles who is pregnant, and Trisha threatened Moses with su*cide if he didn’t have s3x with her or tried to leave. The latter is even worse than what Donna said because it’s completely emotionally manipulative and unwarranted. Jesus, I wouldn’t blame Hila for feeling on edge.
I personally don't think Donna should have gotten involved, but I 100% don't blame her and completely understand her for doing so.
Sharing the message so that Trisha can’t milk the “curse” for content is probably the best response they could have had. And wishing her well in the process. H3 may not be perfect, but they try harder than anyone else on this platform to live the peace and love lifestyle.
So well said
All fax no printer
That's not true...but towards trisha- Yes.
Time stamp?
How are ye so oblivious, acting like Ethan didn’t entertain the drama
Donna had the right take, Hila adores Moses, and looked up to him as a kid, she said she considered Moses to be her closest sibling and he followed her out to LA, that's love. To have Trisha basically destroy a loving relationship between family, not to mention the fallout from Trisha not wanting Moses to talk to their mom. Trisha could've caused Hila to miscarry.
Trisha acting like what Donna said was such a big deal when it's what EVERYONE was thinking is so damn funny. I guess we're all the vile, disgusting, evil monsters and Trisha is a saint.
She would 1000 pErCeNt come to this conclusion.
@@ashergaines593 i agree and its so sad that humans can turn out like that.
They (the 🐍 and Moses) should have thought about it themselves. They are the ones who should be hiding and ashamed.
What did she text? Timestamp? I can't watch it all rn and I really wanna know :(
She called her scum, Satan, cursing her etc, very weird and over the top
Donna: *reads unspeakable message*
Gary: “I’m surprised the message didn’t catch on fire, it was so horrid. oH mY gOd!”
IM WHEEZING HELP 😂
We need a Gary spin-off
gary’s delivery is iconic af
@@Kigoz4Life if Hila miscarries it would be Trisha and Moses' fault
@@Kigoz4Life timestamp around 30:20
@@Kigoz4Life this was in reference to when Hila got pregnant after going through fertility treatment which, was around the period Frenemies ended and Trisha began publicly bashing Ethan, Hila and Frenemies in general.
30:25 "Moses, if your sister has a miscarriage because of this stress, I will hold you and Trisha responsible. Stop this nonsense, enough."
Donna being angry for her son
EVERYONE: She could have said worse!
Trisha: SATAN!!!
PLSSSS THIS 😭😭😭
😂😂
I’m not a fan of Trisha and was a big fan of H3. Only 12 seconds into the video and I see comments mentioning something about miscarriage. I’m sorry but that’s disgusting to even put into the universe, it shouldn’t matter if she could’ve said worse I can’t naturally conceive and my sister has had multiple miscarriages while trying to conceive but if that’s what Dona has said it’s evil and disgusting and had no reason to be mentioned there’s multiple things you can attack Trisha for no need to do that. And honestly the more I watch these videos and read the comments DEFENDING IT, the more I notice everyone in this situation is being a hypocrite both Ethan and Trisha and Dona and Moses and the fan bases in general
@@soniax8964 maybe watch the episode first?
Gold
Protect your grand babies Donna, I’m all for it express how you feel.
Trisha’s getting on my nerves, Donna said nothing wrong. Trisha has said much worse things about Ethan’s whole family and never apologises, Trisha is just selfish 🤷🏾♀️
Trisha is just a narcissist that’s the truth.
She always apologized. Not saying she is not selfish, but she has apologized numerous times.
@@christinelee314 does an apology matter if the person repeats the same vile acts over and over and over again?
Exactly
@@christinelee314 those apologies are automatically invalid the moment you continue with the same behavior. Those apologies mean nothing if there isn't a tually change
Donna coming to Hila's defense more than her brother ever did, all love to Donna
right? it’s so sickening that moses sat in the same room with the guy who harassed hila calling her a horse and didn’t do anything!
@@sophia-qk2qr Moses is a spineless weasel who is addicted to trishas money and fame. It’s sick
I know I actually don't know any of these people, but still, I am so disappointed in Moses. To allow himself to sit on Keem's couch. To make talk and jokes with the man who has been harassing your sister and brother-in-law for years?? To not stop your fiance from going there and shitting on your family? Seriously? Like, Trisha is all sorts of deranged, we already knew that. But Moses is also a snake. All fax, no printer.
damn right
@@miranda13c There dad would have disowned Trisha a million times over by now.
It’s scientifically proven that stress during pregnancy Can lead to many horrible complications, even death of the mother carrying the baby, it’s just a literal medical fact so why is Trisha so upset
Agreed.
Cause they know Donna’s right but she acts like it’s something completely false and horrifying cause she can never face the consequences of her actions.
I remember thinking this better not affect Hilas pregnancy. Donna is on point. Also former Trisha fan here who knew nothing about H3 before frenemies.
Yo it doesent even matter but your pfp is amazing:3
If it’s a medical fact then it really doesn’t need to be said imo it was in bad taste
Trish’s inability to cope with her emotions is shining through with the whole text situation. Saying it’s caused her so much turmoil shows that she knows what Donna said is true, and she is unable to cope so she’s turning herself into the victim of her own guilt rather than feeling remorse for her actions.
On pointtt.
Trisha can overreact to LITERALLY everything, but when Donna stands up for her daughter in law, that’s too much for her! Like Ethan said, Donna just said what everyone was thinking
Yeah fr. Like someone could breathe wrong and Trisha could find a way to be upset.
@@cady__ omg this!! So true
She will always have Hilas back
When Donna said she was Trish’s “flavor of the month”… omg this is so true, she’s always mad at somebody
flavor of the afternoon
Anyone else notice that Donna's text holds Moses equally as accountable but Trisha is out there posting videos saying "what she said to ME/about ME" she is being selfish as always.
Omg I didn’t realize that
Constantly always making things about herself. Any subject and she'll find a way to make it about herself. Very infuriating. Also, just because she says or admits to her wrongdoing doesn't give her a pass, yet she uses that repeatedly like it means something when she's learned nothing and makes no changes to her behavior.
@@pinkkittyvoid She's done it almost on every podcast with Ethan.
I’m starting to wonder if Moses really “showed” her the message or if she went snooping through his phone.
THAT PART
It’s true. Trisha especially needs to be held accountable. None of this would be happening if Moses wasn’t dating someone treating his family like crap.
Considering the way Moses treats his family, Trisha should evaluate if that's the type of person they want to be marrying. Moses is not a good person. The two of them deserve each other
@@CJAmara I know ethan said keen star and trisha deserve eachother and the first thing I thought was how about Moses honestly Moses and trisha are perfect for eachother just horrible people
The reality is, that Trisha was so jealous of Hila’s pregnancy that she didn’t care if she caused her miscarriage. Now she acts like Donna was so out of line… When she was right on the money.
She would’ve relished in it and used it for clout and publicity on her own platform. I’m pretty sure she wanted that to be the outcome.
No. Just no.
yeah and Trisha as a grown woman couldn take the harsh but true comment with dignity and step back (even though message was directed to moses) and she makes this all about herself ...on how she was cursed lmao. it is really pathetic ;(
@@Houry247 You don't have to be an expert to see that...
@@dr-mon-v3i Trisha is incapable of considering other people. We all know that the pregnancy announcement unleashed that monster but she thinks we didn’t see through that and that she can fool us now.
Donna is a caring mother and mother-in-law, I dont think what she did was anything but perfectly normal and totally called for. Id have said much MUCH worse if it were me. Kudos to Donna!
me too!
Totally! If I had a mother in law as supportive of her I’d be so thankful.
I would be throwing hands😤 donna got a monks patients, bless her heart
Teddy Fresh should sell a butterfly T-Shirt where the proceeds go to a butterfly or wildlife charity. That would be awesome and so wholesome.
THATD BE SO CUTE
YES
That would be so cute!
This needs more likes!!!! Let’s go people to the top!!! :)
That’s such a great idea great 👍🏽!!!!
Trisha CANNOT handle anyone holding a mirror to her face….I’m so glad Frenemies showed her for what she is. I hope Hila can find peace with Moses some day when Trisha is in the rear view.
She reached her peak on that show 😅 she’s been a failure ever since. I love seeing it.
Donna being so unbothered by all the hateful things Trisha said is actually just really incredible
This needs more like
It was amazing to see her so unbothered & that she found it funny 😄
I mean there's like 40 years difference between them lol, you have to imagine this petty bullshit doesn't matter to her at all, Donna is just having fun on RUclips and doesn't give a shit about fake drama from people half her age
role model for the serenity i long after
I hope nobody goes to their wedding. I’d rsvp and then not show up. ✌🏽
It’s utterly vile to me that Moses would go with Trisha to a person’s house who has done nothing but slander and harass his sister/family for years. Your sister is PREGNANT and you have no compassion for her well-being, as you’re willing to be in the same room as the person who has caused such misery for your family. So disgusting.
Moses and Trasha are the absolute worst. Donna you don’t need to justify a thing. You said what any normal sane grandmother would say. And Ethan saying their in love. Oh please no one who loves their partner would do this to their family and cause this type of wedge between them! Urgh! Disgusting vile human being.
Damn you’re so right, i never thought about moses’s perspective :/
It’s becoming painfully clear that Moses might be worse than Trisha. What kind of man chooses to side with a fiancé they’ve only known a year who physically abused him over his little sister?! It’s so fucking sad. Hila seems like such a kind and gentle person too. 🥺
But guys, calling someone a horse isn’t as bad as anything people have called Trisha! (Moses’ words not mine)
@@laur8961 wait what?? Trish did what?
Ethan calling Donna a keemstar jokingly and his dad checking him right away. “Don’t insult your mother like that” had my dying of laughter!!
Everyone is in LOVE with Donna, which how could you not love her, but Ethans dad is honestly SO FUCKING FUNNY THOUGH. Very behind the scenes humor. “We’re gonna come to the wedding anyway! I’m gonna wear a disguise” laughed my fucking ass off at that.
Also donna’s message she sent is what everyone’s been saying in the comments for a while because it is true. Hila is pregnant and putting her through so much stress with her own family. It’s not harsh, it’s the truth and Trisha just didn’t want to accept that their actions actually affect other people’s lives in a deep way.
Literally been commenting this for weeks , I’m glad it was said directly to Moses and Trisha
And instead of reflecting on her horrible behaviour what does Trisha do? Exaggerate it into more drama. She’s awful.
@@clarewarp1384 have you seen her recent tweets? I am disgusted , everyone knows early pregnancy is such a vulnerable and sensitive time , she is dumb if she thinks her actions would cause no harm
@@clarewarp1384 I was just going to say that. Instead of realizing the weight of her actions and thinking "Oh shit, this could be having serious negative effects towards my sister-in-law and her unborn child I should stop" Trisha instead used it to try to turn people against Donna, which you'd think Trisha would know that ain't gonna happen. She's jealous Donna took her spot on the show and people genuinely love Donna.
@@christmastiger it is so beyond disgusting , it’s hard to even imagine putting someone through this much shit
Donna’s message to Moses made me respect her even more. Donna is an amazing mother and grandmother.
“Trisha’s lying!?” Ethan’s dad cracks me up.
I heard him say it just as I read this comment lol
Im sorry but calling Donna evil and conniving is a telltale sign that you’re out of touch with reality lmao
literally thoooo lmfao
The reason Trisha is “tormented daily” about what Ethan’s mom said is because she feels guilty and that she’s right
Yup
Yup - Donna just confronted Moses with a possible reality cuz things were getting out of hand - I don’t blame her for texting that
Guilty about hila having a miscarriage?
THIS 👏👏👏
@@Jreaddy Trisha is so nasty inside that she can’t sustain life and she doesn’t want anyone else to. She’s a jealous hateful person and that’s her karma. 🤷🏻♀️
We could all feel Trishas jealousy when Hila got pregnant… Trisha is the one sending out bad energy. Good for Dona for standing up and saying what should had been said! 🦋🦋
^^ this!! As soon as Trisha showed her anger about the frenemies podcast being titled “pregnancy announcement” instead of “Trisha reacting to the pregnancy” it was clear she was just so jealous and trying to disguise it as that she was just angry about recycling content. She can’t deal with the attention not being on her
@@IloveJesusway2God these are accusations we shouldn’t throw around. I’m not a fan of Trisha but it did seem she was more upset because she couldn’t or struggles to have kids herself (again not a fan of her so don’t know which it is). Being someone who can’t have kids naturally either I do understand why that would’ve deeply hurt her feelings that does not justify her actions at all by the way. And you can’t take something bad that 1000% Dona said and try to twist it on a “maybe this maybe that” situation back to Trisha. Regardless if that’s what Trisha wanted or not it’s disgusting of Dona to even put that out into the universe I’m sorry I was a big fan of H3 but that’s too far.
@@soniax8964 im going to have to agree. those kind of accusations and thoughts should NOT be thrown around, even though Trisha is not a good person
Yep! I believe that was the trigger for Trisha to unleash her wrath. And she's also jealous of the fact that Ethan and Hila's relationship is so stable and have been for years, something she's incapable of! I just take comfort in the fact that they all have each other's back against Trisha so she can hopefully not break them apart since she's hellbent on doing that as revenge.
Jew Wish you were me lololol
Moses is spineless. Of course Donna has Hila’s back, she’s her daughter-in-law AND she’s carrying her grandchild. Donna is amazing, and so is Gary. ❤️
Donna really seems like the dream mother in law to have. I wish my MIL was half as wonderful and loving and sweet as she is!!!
You know nothing about these people
@@infusedwithsepticpuss lol someone who doesn’t want harm done to an expecting mother and exposes liars are good in my book, but keep crying.
That had nothing to do with my comment but okay.
@@infusedwithsepticpuss then explain?
Ethan to Trisha, “My mama don’t like you and she likes everyone” 🎵
It kinda feels like Trisha thought she could hold that message against Ethan and Donna and genuinely thought they wouldn’t read it out loud. It wasn’t even that bad.
Trisha flat out said they "couldn't speak of the message for a few months" aka, they wanted to hold it over the Kleins until their views dropped enough that they needed another scandal
It was true though. Pregnant women shouldn’t be put under stress high risk or not.
@@discopumps Donna has every right to fear this for her daughter in law going through it herself. H3 really feared even talking about it too soon the first time around over that fear. It’s common af and true trauma to a women which Trisha will never be or experienced cause she can’t fake this one. The heartbreak I hear from my own mother and close friends who just experienced this in their first attempt to start a family is tragic life changing trauma.
Any discerning person who saw just even one of Trisha's toxic outbursts could tell she was totally blowing that text message out of proportion. Glad Donna read the text.
yeah and there was already speculation in tweets/comments that this was exactly what Donna texted.
Blaming someone’s miscarriage on you is pretty bad-the loss of life
@ wearesupernovas there is/was no miscarriage…that’s the point - she was trying to prevent that by telling them to back off!!
I think what Donna said was tame. Jesus forgive what I would have said
literally if they never read the text trish would have continued to play it up as if everyone was not concerned for hilas pregnancy during her stressful outbursts
We totally understand giving Donna a chance to speak her side of the story!
you*. weird to speak for the whole community. lol.
@@marycanary3871 we 🤪
@@marycanary3871 We*
@@marycanary3871 we* 💀
@@marycanary3871 We*
That message was not harsh whatsoever, it was the reality check Trisha and Moses needed and Donna was the only brave person saying it. The funny thing is it didn’t even cause her to rethink her actions. If it was so “haunting”
to you, I would imagine you would stop causing the stress all together.
And Moses is just as guilty for enabling it
Narcissists don’t like it when they meet someone they can’t manipulate, who hold clear strong boundaries. They will start the smear campaigns and obsess so damn hard. Albeit a bit messy with family drama online, Donna, as a grandmother, is looking out for her kin. It’s a reasonable thing to say stop the stress for pregnancy. Its harsh truth, but a truth Trisha will never respect.
Woaahh once you said that it all clicked it my head. She’s totally a narcissist. Once a narcissist gets called out, it’s literally like summoning a demon, just watching her have these embarrassing melt downs reminds me of some pretty toxic family members of my own.
@@peachyspalace Beautifully worded, both of these!
Couldnt agree more!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 She self diagnosed the wrong personality disorder imo.. she’s not borderline she’s narcissistic pd!!!
ofc her ankles are thick u guys (if u open ur eyes)
atleast donna has revealed what the message was, now trisha can’t hold it above their heads. also given the context, i think the text is 100% reasonable. it’s obviously a normal thing to be worried about a close family member having a miscarriage.
This is my exact thought, not only does she care about her son,but her huge golden heart shows how much she cares about daughter in law and her grand babies. Shes a good woman. An not many grandmas would have been so straight forward and firm with how she worded her message. Proud of the Donarch 💙💙
Her butterflies are adorable !😭 she’s literally glowing
@Miguel you too
It is the era of the donnarchy
Butterfly goddess 🥰🦋💜
I brought your comment from 1.9k to 2k that was fun lol
You literally don't know what literally means.
I was a Trisha fan for YEARS and the last 5 years shes dug herself in a deeper hole….I cannot stand her anymore. I am an Ethan/Hila fan too and they’ve grown so much!
Trish is laying on the kitchen floor crying because she didn’t get to tell everyone what Donna said on her own terms
They didn’t get to manipulate them with it 🥺 I’ll send them a tissue box
@@samanthaM7119 hahah yesss
Dead 😂
trisha paytas > h3
And wtf would trisha know about risks in pregnancy or raising a child? She can't even own a dog without her carer having to look after it for her.
Donna calling def noodles “wet noodle” has sent me over the edge
She's called him 'Grilled Cheese' before lol
and ethan not remembering the term wet blanket and thinking it’s wet noodle 🤣
@@CasualVFlowerEnjoyer it was actually ricegum who was called “grilled cheese” by Queen Donna
@@ProfessionalPUNKER my bad you right, my memory is pretty shit haha
😂😂😂😂 I know right!!
What Donna said was EXACTLY what everyone was thinking. We all were concerned, as it’s common knowledge how detrimental stress can be in early pregnancy. And as the grandma, Donna had every right to remind Hila’s brother (who is encouraging Trisha’s insanity and NEEDED this reminder) that this repercussion exists.
Good for them for announcing what was said before Trish could continue blowing it out of proportion.
What Donna said was true, if Hila had a miscarriage it would've been Trisha's fault, its insane to me that Moses is so spineless that he lets her talk to his family this way. If I was him I would've called off the marriage a long time ago.
Moses clearly hates his own family.
Or he really loves Trish's money.
@@petrosinella He really loves the sx more like. Which for some reason for me is even more disgusting. Choosing money over hs family is awful, but choosing pssy over his family is like, creepy.
I don't think Trisha wanted to share the text so she could completely over exaggerate it to make Donna look horrible and probably didn't expect them to share the texts, but now Trisha has no power anymore to try to "destroy" them since the texts wasn't really that harmful as she made it seem
What did the texts say
Trish be like: It was dis.gus.ting. Vile. Horrific. Sick. Blasphemous. Evil. More foul than Satan himself. The worst text anyone has sent in the history of cell phones. Worse than anything Hitler ever said or did. Nothing that has ever happened in the history of the universe has been worse than Donna's text.
She also said she wasnt gonna share them "yet"
it doesnt even make sense that trisha is calling it a curse. that would mean that the curse was on Hila just to make Trisha feel bad? I think what trisha is mythologizing as a curse is simply guilt. A human feeling which apparently burns them like holy water.
Exactly. They’re undermining her with real accountability like Trisha could never.
Donna's message was just facts. She told Moses the truth. Hila could have very well miscarried from the stress. Just being a viewer is was too stressful, I had to stop watching alot of what was going on. I cant imagine how heartbreaking and upsetting this was for hila. I think Moses and trisha would have rightfully been blamed for it.
I would never let anyone blame my brother if I have a miscarriage. Like that’s no one’s fault. Ethan could have easily ignored Trisha. Hila doesn’t even read comments or is on social media so much. Donnas text was toxic and for her age she should have known better. Moses is Hilas brother. I feel bad for hila and Moses mom so much drama because of the Americans
Exactly. And many mothers would have said much worse!
Donna probably had a lot more insight to behind the scenes and how toxic things really were. It just makes the fact Trisha keeps trying to get a rise out of them even more heartbreaking.
@@sakuratries7693 uhhh but it CAN be someone’s fault if it’s caused by stress. What don’t you understand abt that?
Why do people think pregnant women are so delicate that a minor bit of drama would cause a miscarriage? One of the stereotypical tropes is the husband cheating on the pregnant wife, which is enormous stress far beyond trisha doing what trisha does, and those women don't lose their babies.
Pregnant women endure being abused, homeless, abandoned, and working full-time all thru pregnancy. Arguments aren't going to cause a miscarriage ffs.
now i see why Shane said he didn't believe her about Jeffree. Cause she is a sociopath and pathological liar and makes up everything for public sympathy.
Yea but Shane Dawson isn’t any better than Trisha
@@jasmincuevas6173 true but he didn't lie when it came to Trisha being a pathological liar
The story Jeffree told was that Trish stayed high all weekend. Apparently she left a bag , with her camera , in a store. And someone from Jeffree's camp found it and gave it to Jeffree. She was late for things and also according to Jeffree's camp stoned out of her mind , acting weird. That's the reason why Shane didn't know which story was correct.
Bruh all those stories that she told on frenemies is a lie( except for some) I doubt she slept with robin williams, and had sex with a guy in the middle of a restaurant. That’s why she never wanted to repeat it or was reluctant to continue on with the story cause she knows she was full of shit
@@nevermind19700 I always figured she was probably high on that trip, and that Jeffree was likely a "bully" as a result. His mom was an addict growing up, it's probably really triggering for him to be around that shit......
Trisha really just talking so much shxt and Ethan still says “I don’t want her to feel like she’s cursed” says everything
Adam is probably crying tears of joy over her compliment. He’s such a Donna Fan.
I WAS LITERALLY SMILING LIKE HE IS MY CHILD 😭
He put the clip on his Instagram
He just posted a vid
Omfg he really is. He is so adorable with how much he adores her
We all love Donna, but adam is a sweetheart.
Imagine calling the queen of the butterflies “scum”
Get ready for a comment from @unsaved 😅
Toilet Paper is projecting
Wat😑
😂
😛
If Ethan’s parents went to Trisha’s wedding she would just ask “How did this get blown up out of proportion? 😅”
Hahahah nice
I laughed way too hard at this !!! 😹😹🥴
Lmao
haha thats a good one.
Trishas literally mad because Donna spoke the truth 😂
Donna really started her Twitter career by taking on the final boss
This comment is still making me laugh a year later.
Best comment in this section
Trisha: “I’VE been carrying this. This has affected ME so much.”
You’re literally talking about Hila being pregnant and how you’re potentially affecting her…
It’s literally insane lol … Hila’s pregnancy has nothing to do with Trisha, yet Trisha is making it about them😭😭😭
Gabbie and Trisha are one and the same
Classic narcissist!
Trisha is the most selfish human. Imagine if she just never got involved with this family
I just hope Hila is ok
We were ALL thinking that the stress could hurt Hila and the baby. The fact that Trisha and Moses weren’t worried says a lot about them.
@@chrissykokkinos thank you! I really feel like she’s showing her ass (again) with this attack on Donna.
exactly. worry about your sister, not the petty drama
ethan’s right, surely everyone thought what donna texted moses. hila’s pregnancy was the first thing i thought of when the fall out between ethan and trish happened and i was so concerned for them when trisha went on the war path.
Donna’s message to Moses is exactly what so many of us were commenting and thinking. It was an EXTREMELY vulnerable and crucial time for Hila and the baby and it’s terrible that so much of this pregnancy has had a black cloud over it because of the things that have been said and continue to be said about Ethan and his family. Hoping the rest of this pregnancy can be positive and wonderful for the entire family.
Exactly!
The text read: "Moses, if your sister (Hila) has a miscarriage because of this stress, I will hold you and Trisha responsible. Stop this nonsense, enough!" (30:18)
Thanks, u dropped this 👑
It was harsh but understandable Trisha was genuinely going to try and profit off of the text teasing it as much as she did
Not going to lie as a mother myself I was worried about Hila and the stress that was going on. Trisha wouldn’t stop, and Moses should have put a stop to it
Moses has no spine
Unfortunately Trisha cares only about Drama
Yes, and Moses should have been worried about Hila himself and tell Trisha to lay off and be kind.
@@barbarahayes7441 I am so sorry 😞 I lost a baby as well and stress is a huge factor and I was out of my first trimester, my husband and I were fighting a lot (we are better than ever now) but it’s devastating. It can cause them to be under developed and more, and I get Trisha doesn’t fully grasp that but she didn’t care either, and that’s where I got irritated
@@Gavvi2552 that’s a fact. If my brother didn’t defend me in a situation like this I would be heartbroken