Richard III - The Archaeological Dig
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- Опубликовано: 3 фев 2013
- www.le.ac.uk/richardiii - Richard III Educational Resources
Project manager Richard Buckley from University of Leicester Archaeological Services (ULAS) discusses the 'Greyfriars Project', the excavation in August 2012 of a council car park which unearthed a skeleton subsequently identified as the mortal remains of King Richard III.
This film was produced by External Relations, University of Leicester.
Filmed & Edited by Carl Vivian
Watched the movie and felt very bad for Philippa Langley and how this university treated her.
Pathetic for the University to publish this self glorifying video with zero mention of Philippa Langley and the Richard III Society.
This just adds to the perception that academia can’t be trusted.
@@notgadot - I've watch all of the U of L videos. Phillippa is never mentioned. The university tried to sideline her every way possible. Even after the film was released, this pansy assed university paid for side of bus ads to claim discovery.
Could have been easy to include her and honor her (hell an honorary degree) but they chose another path. Idiot academics, they are a distraction from whatever good work they do and promote distrust.
it is unfortunate
@@dekuuchiha9990 Universe of Leicester city treats her well english lass
because you'd rather believe the popular fictional account than the recorded, accounted one with receipts?
Phillippa Langley should have been mentioned as the individual who researched historic maps and books she got necessary permits determined to find Richard lll. She and the Richard lll society also helped raise the funds needed to get this project started. Sad they didn’t give her the credit due.
Agree. Acknowledging her at the very end. Was an afterthought. She should have been up on stage.
Leicester owes Philippa Langley and the Richard the 3RD society, the vert least a mention.
i was wondering how they chose the location so accurately...
@@tast7017 they payed the old priory maps over the up to date ones. They used the river as the reference point, to aline the old and up to date maps.
@@gordonjohnston684 wow. Thank you. Thats fascinating.
I just found a documentary on youtube i haven't watched yet about how they found it so hopefully it explains that
So glad Philippa Langley didn't give up and pushed for this dig!
She did what many before her couldn't do. 👏🏻
Ikr, where would they be without her
Yet they give her minimal to no credit, complete vultures.
@@thomasmichael864 they have to live with themselves, at the end of the day, can’t believe after everything they have still kept this video up, she’s got justice now with her new film at least
@@sararadley5702 and the late queen granted her mbe
who tried to do it before her?
All credit to Philippa Langley 👏👏👏
When Richard Buckley says he still can’t really quite believe that this project has taken place, it would have been gracious to have acknowledged that none of the “professionals” since basking in the glory of this discovery, would have lifted a single stone on that Leicester car park without the courage, tenacity and vision of Philippa Langley. Seen with hindsight, this is like describing the discovery of Tutankhamen’s tomb without mentioning Howard Carter.
You have said it SO eloquently. Without Philippa Langley with her vision, and tenacity, there would have NEVER been this dig and discovery. All of these "Johnny come lately's" and "hanger on's" would never have been able to participate in this, and never would have been able to try and suck up all of the glory. The Glory and Praise belongs to Philippa Langley. Doctor George Whitehead
Exactly. His failure/unwillingness to acknowledge the one person that made it possible is embarrassing. Thank you Philippa Langley. This credit stealer should be ashamed. All the work he has done in the past 30 years, as though through his effort, the dig took place. Unbelievable!!
Phillips was awarded a MBA by the late Queen Elizabeth for her discovery. No mention of her here. Did they really just discount Richard’s skeleton and Phillips initially and put a plastic sheet over it overnight? A very sweet movie and very brave of her to tell it.
Welcome to the world of professional archaeology
Lined up for the credit like the snakes they are.
Philippa Langley Deserves way more credit for this!
No one at the University acted in an honourable manner. You’re all trying to take the credit where it belongs solely to Phillipa Langley.
Well done Phillippa Langley for finding Richard 3rd and shame on Leicester uni for hogging the lime light.
Funny I don't remember seeing him at the dig? I saw Phillipa Langley and everyone else was busy smirking. Cheers.
Kudos to Ms. Filippa Langley who initiated this project and was the power force behind it to actually get it all started. She deserves more recognition and praise. Doctor George Whitehead
There's a documentary somewhere where they found a young guy who has the exact same spinal deformity that Richard had and they proceeded to build the same kind of armor and saddle around him that Richard had to see how Richard was able to go out and fight a hard-pitched battle with that deformity. It wasn't nearly as crippling or debilitating as we had originally thought, and the man never seemed to be in pain. It was really fascinating.
I just watched it, fascinating indeed! It's called Richard III - The New Evidence
Well, mymymy... that young man with Scoliosis at the same degree as Richard III said that because his ribs were also twisted, that it affected his stamina as he had difficulty breathing after awhile so he couldn’t sustain activity like normal people. Otherwise that’s the only thing that held him back.
His name is Dominick Smee, I believe.
@@lisakaz35
After that, he would be a hit at Renaissance Fairs and Re-enactments.
He could be an inspiration to others who are physically challenged and show what they could do!
I was inspired for sure.
Richard the 3rd would of approved of that young man.
I watched that documentary too. It wasn’t they who found Dominic, but rather Dominic, who after reading about the discovery of the the skeleton with scoliosis that matched his condition, sought out those professionals and offered his services. It must have taken a lot of courage for him to submit his disability to all their scrutiny!
Through DNA we found my wife is a many great Niece of King Richard the Third. And for irony one of my great grabd fathers was Henery Tudors Armor Bearer at Bosworth and died in the final melee along with the King.
Oh, DNA tests have revealed a ton of ironies!
Sounds about right
I’m related to king Richard the 3rd through DNA testing
@@KindaFruity21 I am as well national geographic was doing a DNA study with Helix labs but they didn't pinpoint how close of relative but it's ONLY female side DNA maternal because he didn't have any surviving children it's from his mother or niece decendent
What was the DNA company used because surprisingly National Geographic DNA test didn't say what relationship is in the family or how it came to be I'm also a decendent of Richard 3 it's only Maternal DNA that is relative please what DNA company I'd like to find out if I am a cousin or niece I'd appreciate it
GREAT ENDEAVOUR by PHILIPPA LANGLEY..., she is the brain behind this discovery.
Can't help but feel a bit pissed off that no mention was made of Phillipa Langley and the decade of work she did that directed them to this spot. Reminds me of the Sutton Hoo excavation and discoveries where the academics took all the glory and not Basil Brown.
Totally agree I love the part when he says that Jo became convinced that the skeleton was Richard 3rd , if you watched the original documentary she was sceptical up to the DNA results...in fact they all were except Phillipa.
Yes, did'nt dear Jo damage the skull st some point? She came across as jealous of PL. Some of the greatest finds this century have been made by "Amateurs" just imagine that, you don't need degrees but inteligence and passion.
@@vintagebrew1057no, she didn't. Without the experts he would never have been definitively identified, don't forget.
@@LynneConnolly Yes she did. Its on video.....
History reveals everything. Based on a recent film it seems that this establishment has been misleading the public where as a simple lady and a few others deserve the actual credit for locating the remains of this monarch.
Excellent work, science at its best.
At least His Majesty now can properly rest in eternal peace. King Richard, may Angels voices sing thee to thy rest.
Richard III should have been buried in a Catholic church .
Leicester University put in minimal effort and reaped maximum reward.
I have always being fascinated by Richard 111. I don't know if he killed the boy princes but there is something about the way he gathered himself ,deformed spine and all that , and launched a charge at Henry V11 (who hung back behind his minders) in all his glory ,sword raised. It was a time before spin and the way to the top was to be a 'man'. Which world leader now would lead his troops on the front line?. The battle of Bosworth 1485 saw medieval England cut down and replaced by the beginnings of Empire and modern England, an yet I miss it!! -Had the honour to listen to Philippa Langley speak last year. She is just superb and her story in finding Richard just amazing.
Actually his way to the top was by stealing the throne from the very children that he had sworn to protect. I hear a lot of people defend him by stating that we can't know if he murdered the princes, but regardless he did usurp the throne. But I agree, 1485 marked the end of a very special time in our history.
It could be argued that it was the beginning of an equally special time, one of huge religious change and one of the most interesting periods in UK History.
My personal opinion is that Richard III does not deserve defence of any sort. He defamed his brother with regard to his marriage and stole the throne quite probably ordering the killing of his nephews in the process to secure his position.
Richard was already crowned by the time the boys disappeared. If their deaths would have helped solidify his position on the throne, he would have needed people to KNOW that they were dead. Just missing would not have helped. So- poison them, put out that they had died of an illness (plenty around at the time that had high mortality rates) and hold a public state ceremony. Which of course didn't happen. That's why I don't believe that Richard killed his nephews.
+Elizabeth Maddison it wass never proven the two princes were murdered by Richard lll.i do remember close to twenty years ago an old set of stairs were under repair and a set of male skeletons around the size of 10-11year olds were found in the surrounding area.
@@bobbydylanio It's not so cut and dried in terms of "usurped." Parliament agreed that the sons were not appropriate successors owing to illegitimacy. There's even a question about Edward IV's legitimacy, in fact.
All of his feelings are very nice, yet not ONE SINGLE MENTION of the woman who decided to trust her instincts & risk being ridiculed to say where she thought Richard was buried - she was the person who started all of this, while this guy & many others sneered at her 'feelings' & research - even tho she had been researching for several years before finally plucking up courage to suggest her idea might be true - and of course they discarded her once they found she was right !!!
👆👆👆👆👆👆👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏ikr, and after everything they still have the nerve to keep this tell tale, lie of a video up
You're confusing fiction with fact.
I absolutely love watching videos like these.
Amazing how they tried to sideline Philippa the driving force behind the search.
The chump hasn’t even mentioned Phillipa once in the video, the dirty liars, should take this video down
they didn't.
WOW! What an honour to find a King. Absolutely amazing. We raise a glass of Champagne to you all and to this momentous occasion. Cheers!
Great work! Thank you and your team for doing the work, and especially getting it to the public's attention so promptly and so well presented.
They didn’t, they are Con men…….Philippa Langley did the research, find a got the funds for the dig…….the Uni and this con man are disgusting
Amazing, incredible - congrats!
Very Fascinating indeed, And with the facial reconstruction of King Richard III its like a Facebook message from the middle ages.
Just imagine the times of Richard III, The neverending green fields and forests of England, No Industrial pollution, Horses and ships where the transportation they had, Lots of Castles around the country. Its all mindboggling now in our hi tech world.
The finding of King Richard III makes it all more real. Very interesting indeed.
Oh there was pollution.
People shat in fireplaces, rarely bathed, and had horrid teeth!
Plus no drainage, no sewers, and shit was thrown into the streets.
Not to mention no hand washing!
Well done Phillipa!
Richard looking for Richard. Dr. King looking for a king.
Well done, Phillipa. 👋👋👋👋👋👋 I'm appalled that Leicester University have airbrushed Phillipa out of the finding of Richard. Without her, he is unlikely to have ever been found to. This archeologist is a disgrace. He had nothing to do with finding him at all. Shameless.
I knew that richard III was never a bady. Well done guys!
Can’t believe how they don’t give a mention of Philippa Langley. If not for her Richard 111 would still be under that car park. It was her research that started whole thing off!!!!!
no it didn't. The location of his body was outlined in the 1980s, but no work could be done because the site was occupied.
@@LynneConnollyCan you share your source for this 80s discovery of Richard III’s grave location?
@@henrydemonfreid1985there you go. Published in 1996. the 1980s paper is by David Baldwin, which identifies the choir. www.thericardian.online/downloads/Ricardian/3-50/02.pdf
This is Philippa Langley's discovery and NOT that of University of Leicester. You might want to say Philippa's name when discussing HER discovery.
Just heard about this in the news...awesome find!
Interesting. Exceptional find.
Amazing!
Congrats on a huge archeologic success story
Huge congratulations and thanks to all involved in the dig.. So glad this important site was uncovered. Brilliant work and a truly fascinating project! 🌟👍
Imagine working in the area and this was your lunch spot, where you'd been eating McDonald's in your car for months just feet above Richard III.
I am learning history about Middleham castle.I was curious where exactly he was buried.I will visit that place later to check out:)
this still amazes me
This came up in a discussion regarding the recent discovery of Nero's theater in the middle of a city. Imagine how much is buried under modern parking lots.
Howard Carter may have been a trained archaeologist but that wasn’t the reason he found Tutankhamen’s tomb. There were no dusty papyrus to tell him where to dig any more than Philippa Langley had an illuminated manuscript telling her to excavate a Leicestershire car park.
Knowing where to look is more akin to detective work or hitting a hole in one than memorising tables. Otherwise Tutankhamen’s tomb and Richard III’s resting place would have been found long before. Theodore Davis spent 12 years looking for Tutankhamen’s tomb without success.
Carter and Langley both studied the available information, thought at length and then made what may be called an inspired guess. Even then it was a water boy stumbling on a stone that showed Carter where in the area he had selected to actually look. Who knows, maybe that stone was shaped a bit like a golf ball.
The role of “inspiration” in scientific achievement is rarely recognised, perhaps because it appears to undermine the skill of the scientist. Much better to believe a discovery is down to personal prowess than something that comes unbidden in a dream.
Take Wallis Budge whose prescient dream of exam questions allowed him to eventually become head of the Assyrian Dept at the British Museum and to translate The Egyptian Book of the Dead. Or Srinivasa Aiyangar Ramanujan whose complex mathematical formulas were “given to him in dreams by a Hindu goddess.” Or Kekule who discovered the structure of all aromatic compounds from a dream of the ourobus.
The list goes in and includes Albert Einstein who perhaps summed it up best: “The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.”
Of course some argue that Einstein forgot his wife......
Phillipa Langley is the true hero...
Richard wasn't the monster painted by Shakespeare but he wasn't a choir boy, using his brother's final directive to murder his way to the throne. In doing so he executed nobility without trial and disappeared the rightful king and his brother into The Tower. He was viewed a tyrant in his day and his death wasn't undesired by those in his own court. Was he evil? Maybe not but he was ruthless and he seems to have been overcome by megalomania. He usurped the kingship from his 12 year old nephew, and his tyrannical behavior created an alliance between the dead king's wife and Henry Tudor's mother. It was an alliance that led to Bosworth and Richard's frightful demise. In my professional career, I worked on or supervised the exhumation of over 2,000 people all of them nameless. Even absent names some of the graves that I saw were striking and the images will remain with me as long as I live.
He was actually viewed with great affection and respect by people of Yorkshire when he served as Duke of York & was renowned for his duty and fairness. It therefore seems strange that he would turn into a child murderer. I think this was yet another myth put forward by Henry Tudor (7th) who had even more reason to kill the Plantagenet princes.
Richard iii didn't usurp the crown. Before he died, Edward iv amended his will and made Richard Lord Protector until his son came of age. It was Elizabeth Woodville and her family who attempted a coup against Richard, raising an army before Richard got word of his brother's dearh. They also stole all the treasury- setting sail with the loot. The Woodvilles, including Elizabeth, were disliked for being scheming and greedy and would not have wanted to relinquish the power and positions they enjoyed. The Church, The Lords, and The Commons petitioned Richard to be King on the grounds that 1) Edward IV was illegitimate- Cecil's Neville gave witness that he was the product of an affair and not the son of her husband Richard ii. 2) The church produced evidence that Edward iv's marriage to Elizabeth Woodville was null and void owing to the fact that he already had a binding contract of marriage to Lady Eleanor Butler.
A likely scenario is that Elizabeth Woodville removed her sons from the Tower and sent them to France until she could make allegiances and attempt a return to power, which in the end she did via the only available option, her daughter's marriage to Henry Tudor. I would also not put it past the Woodvilles or Margaret Beaufort to have had a hand in the death of Richard's son. The whole lot is really a battle between those who wanted to retain power and land. I like Richard because he was brave with a chivalrous code, was spiritual and scorned Edward iv's hedonistic court, and was a promoter of justice for the poor - it was Richard iii who made into law, 'Innocent until proven guilty' and he toured the land encouraging people to petition him with disputes, which he settled fairly.
It's incredibly exciting and I was so very impressed by the way in which Leicester University arranged the live conference on monday morning which I watched with tremendous interest as each expert presented their evidence. I found the description of his battle wounds relating to the weapons used and the manner in which he was humiliated publicly post mortem and subsequently assaulted whilst thrown over a horse particularly fascinating.
Such a well presented collection of indisputable evidence.
Excellent mate
The University acted very poorly in this manner. They trying to take the credit from Phillipa Langley.
And QE2 didn't allow his burial in Westminster Abbey, what a disrespect.
"A trowel, a trowel! My kingdom for a trowel!"
I am in the same MTDNA haplogroup 😊. Such an interesting fellow. Sad how it all ended. 👑
Very interestings.! Thank you.
Where can I find the full version of this documentary?
I would like to see a historic battlefield re-enactment. The weapons, the armour, broadswords etc..
I belong to a worldwide organization called the Society for Creative Anachronism that does that sort of thing almost every week. The fighting is done on foot with wooden weapons, but good replica weapons and armour are usually present just off the battlefield. When several hundred fighters collide, it is as good a replication of medieval combat as you can find.
I can't stop commenting and saying to myself what an amazing job you guys have done!!!
Wow!!!
I love history and in times like this one is when I am grateful for technology and science.
And of course I am all for technology and science when it is for the benefit and betterment of human kind.
You can stop, they didn’t. Philippa Langley did
While it is true that the Tudors disparaged Richard's name, I also think the efforts of some people to turn him into "good King Richard" are more than a little ridiculous.
By the standards of the day, he was a good king. He was a medieval prince but we look at him through a modern day lens. If the Tudor monarchs had found themselves in the same situation, they probably would have been getting rid of the Princes in the tower too. Henry VIII certainly got rid of people with a rival claim to his throne.
we need Eomer to be there. "To the King!!"
Great work on everyones part, just sad that the woman drove the tip of her pick thru R 3s skull.
good job
Funny how this fella.. seems to be forgetting about the absolute tenacity of Philippa Langley's research and badgering the Mucky Mucks to dig in that parking lot.. Of course, she's not a professor, or an archeologist... She was an ordinary citizen who had a passion to find Richard the 3rd... so she''s the one responsible for the finding of the king's body.. not the glory hounds..
It is amazing, even this man who has been such an important part of locating Richard III’s grave is amazed.
One could listen to Richard Buckley all day long. Great work, great explanations.
it reminds me of where Pocahontas is supposed to be buried in Gravesend in Kent. There is a plaque in one spot but a Council member told me she isnt buried there at all, but it attracts plenty of American tourists.
This is outstanding.
where is Phillipa?, she should be in all videos relating to finding Richard III.
FASCINATING
My youtube search after having watched 'The Lost King' brought me here. Who else?
Anyone know how someone of such importance just got paved over into a parking lot? Like if someone was knocking the old church down wouldnt they have known he was still in there?
There were several building events between the church being knocked down and the car park being built. Richard wasn't buried with much ceremony, more chucked into a hole and forgotten about. And if- that's a big IF, by they way, because I don't know- the church went as part of the Tudor Reformation, it would explain why the grave's illustrious occupant's identity was conveniently forgotten!
ziggy4242 Protestants hated his guts that is how
i agree with david russel.why was richard lll 's grave not marked for future reference.history has meaning.
He was buried by the same people who killed him. Henry VII did build a tomb for him, but Henry VIII had it demolished along with the rest of the friary.
and the last of the warrior kings
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PHILIPPA LANGLEY should be credited
The damage he suffered in his last moments, (and a few directly thereafter lol,) are still carved right out of King Richard III's skeleton, it's quite dramatic.
He was CLEARLY killed in battle, with nicks, scratches and even evidence of where portions of his scalp were filleted off, at such sharp, glancing angles they were likely to have been mostly non-lethal in and of themselves.
But, in totality amongst the entire collection of wounds, clear evidence of where a sword pommel had punctured his cheeckbone and the back of his skull, almost as if made by the same weapon, and a couple obvious marks on his ribs where a sword or dagger had slid through and on the back side of the front portion of his hipbone, where a sword had clearly come through from behind, travelling all the way through and would have emerged in the front if not halted by the bone, they all show rather definitively that he had been hacked, stabbed, cleaved, and pounded by multiple enemies in his final struggle to win and stay alive.
His scoliosis was also quite dramatic, being known by his contemporaries as; "The Hunchback King." That evidence was seen quite clearly right when his remains were initially uncovered.
But he was still able to function relatively normally, and fight and die on the battlefield, despite his chiropractic issues.
This clip is all about the analysis of his remains specifically; ruclips.net/video/mfi6gOX0Nf4/видео.html
He was probably captured and executed. The most serious wounds could not have been inflicted on someone in armor.
If only he could've got another 'orse.
He wasn't the last King in Britain, to be killed on the field of battle, that was James IV, King of Scotland, on 9th September 1513, at Flodden.
I wonder if that's who that is
Buzzer1961. You are totally mistaken. James IV was the King of SCOTLAND, and N-O-T the last King of Britain. Richard III was the last British king to die on the battlefield, and that was in 1485. Don't get angry at me...just look up your Scottish and British History. Good luck.
Richard was the last English king to die in battle.
The movie paints a different picture. One of disinterest from the University. Until others had found the Lost King. And then the Universtiy was suddenly all over it front and center taking the plaudits
You think like I do
History is alive to me.
I live in Leicester and went along to see the dig.
A most ignoble ending and fascinating story hundreds of years later. The stuff of fiction.
Hi, I might be wrong with my understanding of how the process works but if you have confirmed remains of Richard III does that not now create an opportunity to DNA test the remains of the skeletons believed to Edward V and Richard of Shrewsbury (the princes in the tower) because of the direct family link?
Good idea! The princes' father, Edward IV, was apparently illegitimate, so the princes would only share 25% of the DNA of Richard III (who was legitimate). But Edward IV and Richard III shared the same mother, and mitochondrial DNA analysis traces the female line, so it might not matter.
@@tdpay9015 Also, permission to test the bones of the boys in the tower has been denied -- because the Tudors stole the throne from the rightful heirs of Richard III at his murder, so much easier to just sweep it under the rug.
@@patriciabrightwell196 it was because if they were not the remains of the princes, the question remains what to do with the bodies. They were buried as royalty, what would they do if they were not? It was decided to just leave them to rest.
@@Just_Do_Dance Elizabeth II was german. Iya
Richard III is not the only possible DNA comparator, Edward IV built and is buried at St. George's Chapel in Windsor Castle. However, the various remains can only be exhumed and examined with the permission of the Crown. Elizabeth II refused to grant that permission, and we don't know whether Charles III will even consider the matter. @tdpay9015: Edward IV was legitimate. Richard III had Edward V and his brother declared illegitimate because they were children of a bigamous marriage.
The thought is that he really wasn't so evil--that his name was smeared by the Tudors, because they took the throne from him, and had a vested interest in making him look really bad. (History is written by the victors.) People are interested in righting an old injustice.
remember Richard III killed two innocent boys (the true heirs) the famous "Princes in the Towers" and his own nephews to become King. That was part of his poor image. *or he had them killed. Richard was no innocent.
@@RUclips4me The thinking now is that it was Edward VII who had them killed. He had as much, or more, reason to do so and then blame Richard for it. History is written by the victors. The Tudors won.
@@RUclips4me He treated the son of his older brother George extremely well (excluded from taking the throne by an attainder, but easily undone) George's son Edward, Earl of Warwick would have had a better claim to the throne than Richard, but he took him into his care when he was orphaned. Why would he kill 2 of his nephews and treat the other as his own son, it makes no sense. Think about it.
Henry VII actually later executed Warwick. If he would kill Warwick why not the Princes? Henry VII was an usurper.
@@Eabha-nc8gf Because one of his two nephews, having been named King, literally had a greater claim to the throne than he. He stripped his own nephews of their claim to the throne, after taking over as Lord Protector, and took it over for himself. Richard III and Henry VII were BOTH usurpers.
Some good news to hear on these days.
he was a Genuine King, and I am sad that the present Royal Family, though not directly related did little to mark his funeral. he should have been buried with Full military honours befitting a king.
Hello, I'm from Portugal. I have a degree in archeology. At this moment I am finishing the Master degree in Archeology. Can I dig with you as a volunteer?
I've heard he had a curvatured spine...I had a thought on that. I believe that was a serious battle wound to curve like that.
I am looking for the full version of this documentary. Anybody knows where I can find it?
There is a full documentary in Amazon Prime. Richard III
` last king to have died on the field in battle in Britain` James IV died at the battle of Flodden in 1513 ,Richard III died in 1485 .
Good point, since the Acts of Union weren't until the 1700's. And both kings got done over by Tudor Henrys. :-(
Last king of England.
Interesting that it is probably Richard the Third who was found but the research into Greyfriars is so much more interesting - sad that was not expanded upon more. After all bodies are only relevant in terms of their archaeological relevance and thereby the light they shine on history. The most that can be said here is that Shakespeare was right.
Kane was an archaeologist too😮
A horse, A horse! my kingdom for a horse!
The King chose to be discovered in this modern time He was identified accurately and scientifically and where He can be given a proper burial fit for a King.
Evangeline Anar ❤
This looks super scary
Now knowing the history in regard to this find I cannot believe that this "person" is taking credit for something he had very little in doing. So this is how a university awards fakers. Pretty poor. Worse they failed to mention Phillipa Langley, just disgusting.
wow.. how does one go from being the King of England to being forgoten and your burrial site being relegated to a car park.. that is some heck of a long amount of time for sure.. I would like to see a short of how time progressed since he was intered in the ground at that site.. all the changes.. buildings.. ects in speed up into a few minutes..
If you go to the Richard III visitors centre they have a great CGI video which shows exactly this!
Interesting
I agree
How the hell does the discovery of a skeleton determine guilt or not from 500 years ago !!! You are crazy !
The ironic thing is they can't find the two children he murdered and burried.
You're a history major and you don't know that the evidence is scant that he did it and actually since they were already de-legitimized he didn't need to kill them. If he thought them legitimate, he could have just possessed the king and ruled as regent for him for longer, anyway. You really think Margaret Beaufort lacked a motive?
Well, "Mr. BA History Major from an Honors university," -- they did find them; right there in the tower of London. Please see Lisa Kazmier's comment below. Richard had no reason to kill the boys -- and -- they now have found proof from a document found in France where the family were residing, that Richard's father was not even in France when Edward was conceived -- Richard II was about 5-7, and Edward was 6-2, which was exceptionally rare at that time, and the only other person that tall was a guard in the castle -- therefore -- Edward was a bastard, and not a legitimate heir, nor were his children. Richard, having known this, still was loyal to his brother until Edward's death, and protected the children. Richard III was the spitting image of Richard II, and he could have challenged Edward's legitimacy to the throne, and yet he did not. He not only got a bum spine, he got a bum rap !!
He treated the son of his older brother George extremely well (excluded from taking the throne by an attainder, but easily undone) George's son Edward, Earl of Warwick would have had a better claim to the throne than Richard, but he took him into his care when he was orphaned. Why would he kill 2 of his nephews and treat the other as his own son, it makes no sense. Think about it.
Henry VII actually later executed Warwick. If he would kill Warwick why not the Princes? Henry VII was an usurper.
Interesting to note the split in the comments pre, and post, the film. I’d like to think that Leicester Uni. suffered a degree of embarrassment over this, but I suspect i’d be disappointed….
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The main reason Richard III has a strong society and so many supporters is the nonsensical idea that he was the last true English king of England. Their propaganda machine is in overdrive now. In fact, he was from the French Plantagenet line, with 3 kings born in France, estates and castles in France, 2 died in France, 1 buried in France. Also 2 born in Wales. Richard's maternal side was full of French and Flemish- Philippa of Hainault, Joan Beaufort, John of Gaunt, Payne de Roet..
I think it's more about legitimacy than nationality. All of these royal lineages claim a drop of Wessex blood through Saint Margaret of Scotland, so they are all English to at least a tiny extent. However, records at Rouen Cathedral indicate that Edward IV was illegitimate (as did his appearance, and the fact that his parents weren't together when he was conceived), i.e. he was not the son of Richard, 3rd Duke of York. Henry VIII, whose mother was Edward IV's daughter, and whose paternal Tudor royal claims were riddled with illegitimacy, was thus the product of illegitimacy on both sides … perhaps this explains his trailer trash antics.
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Thanks, that explains a lot. I was sitting here wondering how this got so weirdly politicized.
the last northerner king of england
Thank you for finding him! I am a descendant of King Richard III.
You are descended from one of Richard's siblings. He had no children.
Why is the university making out they found his grave? I thought it was an amateur historian who worked it out.
Everyone had always known he was probably buried in the church, and where it was. Just took people to fund it and make it worthwhile. Nobody thought it likely they'd find it because of all the buildings on top where they couldn't dig. Nobody found it until they found it...if that makes sense
I can, I'm a history major and graduated with a BA from an Honors university. Don't speak about what you don't know my friend. I'm intelligent and I spent the time to know what I'm talking about. Now, good day.
Don't forget who was the person who suggested the exactly place where to dig....
It wasn't Philippa Langley if that's what you think...it was NOT a secret that R3 was buried in Greyfriars. It also wasn't a secret as to where Greyfriars was in modern day Leicester. Even the actual trenches were more or less random.
Philippa raised money and persuaded them it was worthwhile looking, but she didn't know anything that wasn't public knowledge. It just hadn't happened previously as he might have been moved deliberately at some point over the centuries, and only small sections could be excavated as most of the site had been built over and even the other areas would've been disturbed many times with works so the odds of him still being there, and intact, were tiny.