The idea is to keep the ammo dry. I think a lot of people miss this point. Everybody that says "I've shot ammo I had since the dinosaurs roamed the earth!" will all agree that it didn't get wet. A little air is fine. A little water is not fine.
Powder comes from the factory with 40-50% humidity in single base, and 50-60% humidity in the double base powders. When the reloading manuals give a powder charge weight it is with the moisture include in the weight. So it is with the factory ammo as well. If one dries the powder out, the rounds will be hotter than originally planned, due to the volume of powder and faster burning when lacking the moisture content.. In maximum loads it can become dangerous. And yes moisture can seep into a loaded round, as well as back out again depending on the humidity level out side the cartridge if given a week or so, unless one seals the round with sealant. Hence it is best to store ammo, powder, and primers in a controlled environment of say 49-58% humidity. This can be done within the sealed ammo cans by putting a Boveda 49% or 58% Two-Way Humidity Control Pack. Or one could store them in a Cigar Humidor cabinet that is both Humidity and temperature controlled.
I've been doing this for years. What I have learned along the way is that I seal each each of the bag usually 3 times without lifting the lid. I mostly just vacuum seal the box of ammunition instead of individual rounds.
Good video. In my opinion and several other people who are knowledgeable in this area. The reason for the vacuum seal is for the purpose of burying it in the ground inside a ammo can. It's an extra layer of protection.
You have to put the food saver bag down into the crevise right pass the sealer. It's the crevise that's rounded on both side that goes the length of the black sealer. Once you get the bag down in to the crevise, that's what takes all the air out and seals it real tight.
vaccuumsealing might be good for shotshells, for waterproofing. also other stuff if you're going camping or something (Bug-Out-Bag?)....underwear, socks, t-shirt, matches, tinder, toiletpaper...you name it. it gets small and doesn't take as much space in a backpack.
My food saver is identical to yours. I seal ammo I carry in my car trunk inside an ammo can for extra protection. My bags have been sealed for over two years and are fine.
This is 2 years but if you can buy individually sealed packs of small Oxygen Absorbers used for food, they are technically rust packs but absorb oxygen basically instantly.
The 6.5 Creedmoor that u have the plastic shell holder. I'd have left them on the holder and sealed it all. I think it would've been cleaner and u would've still had the holder for reloads!
The only way I see it being worth doing this, is what I'm planning on doing. Storing inside a backpack. I am wanting to put the ammo in vacuum packaging to keep it the ammo dry. For another layer of protection against punctures of the vacuum packaging, I'm going to use Magpul daka pouches. As for storage within a vehicle or structure. Like you said, store it in ammo cans. If it's a very damp or humid environment, it may be a good idea to make sure the ammo cans are aluminum or plastic. Steel ammo cans will rust, and possibly rust through, then it's bye bye ammo.
Several people in comments suggest just vac sealing entire mags, they're correct works like a charm. Amo cans and oxi packs work for traditional storage but this is a great trick for bug out bags or a cache out in the woods.
The idea is to keep the ammo dry. I think a lot of people miss this point. Everybody that says "I've shot ammo I had since the dinosaurs roamed the earth!" will all agree that it didn't get wet. A little air is fine. A little water is not fine.
Powder comes from the factory with 40-50% humidity in single base, and 50-60% humidity in the double base powders. When the reloading manuals give a powder charge weight it is with the moisture include in the weight. So it is with the factory ammo as well. If one dries the powder out, the rounds will be hotter than originally planned, due to the volume of powder and faster burning when lacking the moisture content.. In maximum loads it can become dangerous. And yes moisture can seep into a loaded round, as well as back out again depending on the humidity level out side the cartridge if given a week or so, unless one seals the round with sealant. Hence it is best to store ammo, powder, and primers in a controlled environment of say 49-58% humidity. This can be done within the sealed ammo cans by putting a Boveda 49% or 58% Two-Way Humidity Control Pack. Or one could store them in a Cigar Humidor cabinet that is both Humidity and temperature controlled.
I've been doing this for years. What I have learned along the way is that I seal each each of the bag usually 3 times without lifting the lid. I mostly just vacuum seal the box of ammunition instead of individual rounds.
Good video. In my opinion and several other people who are knowledgeable in this area. The reason for the vacuum seal is for the purpose of burying it in the ground inside a ammo can. It's an extra layer of protection.
my OCD really wants all of those rounds to be facing the same direction. lol
I would recommend doing the heat strip TWICE on each end.
A buddy of mine got a bunch of cheap vacuum bags and I could hot get a seal on a single one.
Always double seal the bags. It maybe the thickness of your bags don’t match your sealer
I think the vacuum bags are better for food and ammo cans will do the job fine but thanks for the content!
You have to put the food saver bag down into the crevise right pass the sealer. It's the crevise that's rounded on both side that goes the length of the black sealer. Once you get the bag down in to the crevise, that's what takes all the air out and seals it real tight.
As I stated in your previous video, you need to seal the ammo in the boxes they came in.
vaccuumsealing might be good for shotshells, for waterproofing. also other stuff if you're going camping or something (Bug-Out-Bag?)....underwear, socks, t-shirt, matches, tinder, toiletpaper...you name it. it gets small and doesn't take as much space in a backpack.
My food saver is identical to yours. I seal ammo I carry in my car trunk inside an ammo can for extra protection. My bags have been sealed for over two years and are fine.
I vacuum seal while the ammo is still in the box. I’m sure this video is about loose rounds/reloads? Right
This is 2 years but if you can buy individually sealed packs of small Oxygen Absorbers used for food, they are technically rust packs but absorb oxygen basically instantly.
The 6.5 Creedmoor that u have the plastic shell holder. I'd have left them on the holder and sealed it all. I think it would've been cleaner and u would've still had the holder for reloads!
Air inside of the base sounds legit. Will the primer be able to ignite without that extra air?
Awesome love it man keep them coming....
The only way I see it being worth doing this, is what I'm planning on doing. Storing inside a backpack. I am wanting to put the ammo in vacuum packaging to keep it the ammo dry. For another layer of protection against punctures of the vacuum packaging, I'm going to use Magpul daka pouches. As for storage within a vehicle or structure. Like you said, store it in ammo cans. If it's a very damp or humid environment, it may be a good idea to make sure the ammo cans are aluminum or plastic. Steel ammo cans will rust, and possibly rust through, then it's bye bye ammo.
Several people in comments suggest just vac sealing entire mags, they're correct works like a charm. Amo cans and oxi packs work for traditional storage but this is a great trick for bug out bags or a cache out in the woods.