Andu Engraver Update | Q&A, Setup, and Demo
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
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(0:56) - Engraver performance after a year of use
(1:08) - Where to buy it
(2:32) - Metals/materials it can be used on
(5:55) - Sharpening Templates
(7:05) - Sharpening Setup & Block Vice
(10:05) - Setup
(15:46) - Demo
Thank you so much for the info. It was very helpful.
Your videos really helped my decision to buy the Andu engraver. I'm really impressed with the craftsmanship, the fit and finish is excellent and it performs great. He also sell the sharpening templates, 15 different profiles with tool holder for $125 (US). Incredible value. I couldn't be happier with the it. Great guy to deal with and he genuinely cares about the customer. Shipping only took 5 days. The grs system 3 doesn't compare and will only frustrate and disappoint. The others are unaffordable to most of us and hard to justify unless your engraving is your full time job. Please keep the engraving videos coming! Thanks!
Can you give the diagram of that hoses coming from the air regulator going to engraver machine. Thanks for your answer watching from Philippines.
Have you tried Andu palm control handpiece and do you see sensitivity issues like not starting if you push slow but just leaking air
Hi,
How do you find it after 3 years of using? Any issues?
how loud would you say this whole system runs?
Question about the stroke adjustment. If you have a longer stroke does that mean your cuts will be deeper?
Aaron Lin
I don’t find that it has much effect on depth, just the look of the cut. A short stroke is generally the more powerful setting and allows for a deeper cut.
I’m no expert, so I tend to not play with stroke at all and just adjust PSI to achieve what I want.
On your templates, how did you measure for the precise location of the hole for the positioning pin? I am thinking of 3D printing some templates.
Edward
The pin is exact 45 degrees from the centre of the fixture hole. After that it’s just measuring the fixture to figure out the distance and diameter of the pin.
thanks for video. I just received my Andy. Can you please tell me if it is ok to hook air compressor hose directly to regulator? thank you
The regulator he includes with the kit should be hooked up straight to the air compressor, yes. We have ours connected to a quick disconnect and hose so the compressor can be in another room. You'll want to keep the regulator close to you so it can be adjusted while you work.
I bought the Andu engraving set after watching your video, never looked back
Where can I get one
Where can i buy one??
@@Etapia47 I contacted the guy on Facebook, I was completely new to engraving but he was very Andu was very helpful
thehomefront what is his facebook or his email? Thanks man
@@uhcudll7867ok let me see if I can find him
Thank you for the very helpful tutorials.
My drill press must be smaller than yours because I checked it to see how 8" diameter diamond lap discs would spin without obstruction, but they would hit the drill press post, so I will go with 6" discs. Is there too much wobble with your 8" discs? I've noticed in other setups that there seems to be two plates sandwiching something that looks like an HDPE filler, giving the disc assembly a total thickness of close to a half-inch? What is the thickness of your discs?
The discs I use are 8" and they're about 1/8" or so, the place I bought them from also recommended the aluminum backplate which would help keep the disc rigid, but I wasn't sold and thus far haven't found any determent to not having it.
I think the smaller diameter the disc the less likely it would flop around and require a backplate, granted they're 1/8" thick and you're not applying a lot of pressure.
I am in the Middle East and need to source most things in China. I've ordered some 6" discs, but I think they are only about 1.5mm thick. I should probably look for thicker discs.
I did some checking. A lot of the 6" discs are 1mm to 1.2mm in thickness. Mine that are arriving are the same. I think I will double the discs on the arbor with the non-diamond sides against each other. This should provide more stability.
Really interesting, luv teh abor, aka Shaun Hughes does the same, i was always under the impression you needed like a graver max , which are so expensive, but really the GM is just like a glorified regulator right?
Basically yes, I think it has an air filter and stuff in it, and it’s certainly tuned very well to allow for precise air flow. But as you can see, that’s not always necessary.
Graver Max systems are for the pulse type handpieces with a piston and a reeturn spring. These types Employ different engineering principal.
@@ClearMindJewellery your way off on your answer it is NOTHING like a regulator other than yes you can adjust the airpressire but it's a ton more than that. Have you ever even seen one in person let alone use one. It's almost like a brain that emits micro pulses of air at specific intervills along with being able to adjust the speed and strength of the stroke of the graver ,on harder and deeper engravings you'll want a more powerful and slower stroke and vice versa
When doing detail work quicker lighter strokes. I happen to be fortunate enough to own every GRS Graver system & handles all ng with 3 differant Steve Like nfsey graving systems a system from Turkey that's terrific and extreamly affordable. Easy to get and in your hands within a week at no extra cost. The shipping is free. Lindsey is a top of the line pro set upade to the highest standards . It can be used 24 X 7 X 365 For 10 years and it will still run like it's new plus you can still sell it at that age for dinner the price you paid for it new because the demand for these are so high in the engraving world. The GRS sets are fantastic also.any Masters use strictly their equipment and produce stunning pieces of work
How often are you using this engraver over the 2 years ? Are you using it atleast 8 hours a day 6 days a week or maybe a few times a week. That makes a big difference is n the review your giving
Just being real. I don't get paid by any of these guys I'm just an engraver who happens to engrave every day , 8-10 hrs a day ,6-7 days a week. My tools take a pounding .
@@littlesister3477 what engraver would you recommend? you have info on the ones from turkey?
I am thinking about getting the same air graver. But I am thinking of hacking an inexpensive tankless air compressor. However, someone elsewhere on the net has informed my that the air graver you're using must be run on compressed air from a tank. Is this correct?
It depends on the CFM (Cubic Feet Per Minute) of the compressor. The compressor will do a lot less work if it can fill a tank, it will also keep the outgoing air pressure more consistent with a tank as compared to using the pressure as fast as its produced. If the compressor can't output for example the 20-40PSI you need at will you'll see a lot of lag and it may not even work, again depending on the CFM.
Hey brother, i own an andu handpiece i bought straight from Vietnam for around $400 years ago with the air regulator and pedal. I tried it out a few times but my compressor at the time seemed not to be enough for it so i gave up and put it away. Would it be possible you share details about the air pressure you work at? Also some specs on your air compressor like cfm etc?
Thank you for sharing your experience.
This link is to our unboxing video where we talk about the specs (will start at that time) ruclips.net/video/7_ctfhz2OhY/видео.html
We usually run it around 5-10psi for non-ferrous and 15-20psi for ferrous metals.
Have you used the palm/ hand controled one?
Nope
Do you need a air tank to collect the air pressure
Minute 10:30 approximately
could you recommend any good hand pieces i could buy from ebay amazon that wont brake in a few mins?
Not at this time. Sorry.
I bought a handpiece named AG2, which belongs to a Turkish company. I could advice it; that is cool man. They helped me a lot, kind customer service. You can always contact them, since 2 years never single issue has happened. 🤙They sent it with free shipping to United Kingdom
what air pressure do you use.. i had heard 15 to 20 psi but i still cant get it to cut. thanks, your vides are a great help
We go between 5-20 psi but it depends on what we’re working on. If your graver is sharpened well, and your idler is setup correctly I’m not to sure without more info.
@@ClearMindJewellery thanks, im going to try sharpening the graver and see if that helps... if not im going to put the whole lot up for sale..
Nice q and a video.. thanks.. more questions haha Where did you get your graver templates cut?
We got the templates cut using a laser engraver/cutter at our work place, in the greater Muskoka ON area. They have a community makers space with a few interesting tools.
We have had success in the past using a scroll saw on a similar project.
How well do you think 3D printing the templates would work?
@@pequodexpress i think it would work great, could be off a degree or two but that shouldnt be a problem.. just make sure the printed templates are stiff so it doesnt flex when youre sharpening and end up giving some odd and uneven angles
What brand of block vice are you using?
08:20
Man you are the best! You helped put all the pieces together...
I appreciate that!
What's the difference between using the air compressor vs graver max, and other grs graver air system? I still do not know the difference.
Aaron Lin the graver max system is basically a regulator, you need a compressor to go with it. I’ve never used one but to my knowledge all the graver max does is adjust your pressure and filter the air going into your machine.
The gravermax uses a pneumatic pulse design to power the handpiece, basically a highly refined version of the system shawn Hughes and others use. You can vary the pulse intensity, air pressure and handpiece stroke length. I've never used one but there are you tube videos showing the inside of the control unit to give you an idea of how it works.
@@jefflyon100 Any idea the difference in the hand gravers of each system? Shawn Hughes version uses suction for return and a spring as a buffer. Andus version doesn't seem to have any springs in it at all. How does the piston return? I was going to make a graver with Rick Alexanders drawing. But if I already have a compressor . I could spend the money on a regulator and oil separator over building the other system.
@@jessebrown4947 It's difficult to explain with only words. Theres a guy on youtube making his own based on the same concept. His channel is RHJ Gold. You get to see it disassembled and he does a good job explaining how it works. The beauty is in its simplicity. Only one moving part and it runs off a small air compressor that requires no modifications. The cfm requirements are so low you can run it for hours off a paintball tank (special regulator required). Great for taking it on the road with you. The grs and Hughes design work off an air pulse design and hence require the special air supply. There are no shortage of videos showing how those designs work.
@@jefflyon100 Thank you. I figured it out its essentially a steam engine. .
Hello
Great video and great production.
Can the tool be purchased alone
Would it be possible to know the reference
I can't find it on the ETSY website?
Thanks in advance.
instagram.com/anduengraver_maker/
Hello. Would you be able to help me with my set up? I have had this graver with the entire set up & I cannot get it to work. I’ve contacted Andu & sent my hand-piece back, he checked it & did something, but it isn’t working. The air pressure blows out of the small holes on the rod, not really pushing the internal rod mechanism that would operate the handpiece. Andu is clearly a master technician, but his English is not enough for me to fully explain & I am in NYC, so hours are difficult also. I am not sure what I could do. i have watched your set up video, & followed that for set up. Thanks, I really hope you could offer some advice.-Lilia
I have the Andy engraver but when I hooked up the foot pedal it keeps leaking air out the side of the pedal. Any idea if I missed something
Is the air connection solidly connected? The blue push in quick disconnects are sometimes a little bit tight and you need to push the blue part in fairly hard and then insert the tube all the way down to make sure they get a good seal. Aside from that I can't say for sure if you're missing anything.
Clear Mind Jewellery triple checked the connection and push it in as far as it will go. I think the valve in the foot pedal maybe bad. Constant air escaping out the side
Clear Mind Jewellery if I cover the hole it is quit like in your video but I just received it yesterday and can’t say if it’s bad or I missed a piece which I’m sure I didnt
Clear Mind Jewellery I spoke with him and figured out the problem. It was missing the two balls that block the air from escaping. He suggested to put a screw with Teflon tape and that worked out good.
how would u rate the noise level of the andu engraver?
At about 16:16 the noise level is unedited, from there we turned the volume down to about half(of course that depends on your volume, speakers etc). I personally find it as annoying as a full tumbler but you are working right over top of this tool vs being able to set and leave a tumbler. You may want some light ear protection or if you listen to music in the studio get some noise canceling headphones like we did.
@@ClearMindJewellery thank u very much for your reply, appreciate it!
hello!
I like your video ,very helpful),
please if you can tell me where and how I can buy this pneumatic tool ,I cant afford the expensive ones ))..I love to buy this Andu tool set.His Address or Info where to buy?
also what kind of compressor are you using ,its seems very quiet)).
I appreciate ,
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which foot pedal do u use ? ebay link ?
kyle io the foot pedal came as part of the engraving setup.
What was ball vise the brand
We got it from Gesswein however they no longer carry it. Otto Frei still does www.ottofrei.com/V-Line-Engraving-Block.
Thank you my friend I have a ball vise but I was just curious where you got yours at, and I see that you're from Canada where's about I live in Buffalo New York
I have searched for Andu. Facebook page is not working. Etsy says this seller is no longer selling on Etsy. Do you know if Andu is still in business and, if so, any contact info? Thanks.
As per our most recent update video about the Andu engraver due to competition with an American supplier Andu has been having issues since our videos were posted. Please reach out to us via DM on instagram and we will connect you directly with the tools creator.
How do i get ahold of Andu to get my hands on one of these beauties?
If you watch the update video we go into why he’s hard to get ahold of. If you want to DM us on Instagram we can introduce you.
Where can I find Andu tools I want the kit
Andu is currently have some issues with different platforms. You can see our update video as to why. If you would like to dm us on social with your email we can pass it on.
Are you still interested in the andu engraver? I have a set for sale..
Eddie Tapia yes
@@Etapia47 where are you located how much do you want for it?
I think that might be a swallow rather than a sparrow..... the bifurcated tail is commonly referred to the swallow’s tail. Great video! Thank you.
Yeah I thought that immediately 😊
Can you tell me where to get the hand piece with both aluminum and wood tops. Plaza phone number I don't have Facebook or Instagram!
BTW that little valve is called the idle air adjustment. It does keep the piston moving at the slightest amount but that's because in this type of machine where there's no return spring on the piston inside of when you stop and the piston happens to stop at a spot in the tube where it sitting at the bottom by the graver itself the machine will not work when you step on the pedal. It takes air to push the piston down but also air pushes it back up it it comes to a complete stop sometimes ( not all ) you'll have to smack the back of the handle on the palm of your hand to get it going and that sucks when your trying to place the tip in a certain area
Turn your idle completely off & try youachinr for a few minutes . You'll see what I mean.
Great video. I must have been unlucky, I got one to have a look, used it 3 times, it was shit :(
If you are referring to the Andu machine. Do you mind selling it to me?
@@TayouTroy I'f I find where I put the damn thing, I'd think about it, but then again you would be paying a lot for something that wasnt worth it. The homemade machine is far cheaper and better in every way.. I might put it on ebat with an honest description, and take a chance, that way I wouldnt feel any guilt :) cheers shaun
Shaun Hughes Engraving ok please put it on eBay. I will bid and buy. Thanks
@@express375 Did you found it? i search ebay every day but no listing ?
@@TayouTroy Amazingly I did find it, and wasnt even looking for it. It may take a while before it gets listed. I am sending it to a few friends to have a look at.Two in the UK and one in the US.
thanks for all the infos, it was very helpfull. please watch my video on how to transfer pattern on metal, it could help you in future time 🙂
It´s very obvious you are sponsored by Andu by looking at all the comments being deleted.
Andu has never sponsored any videos on this channel, ever. He has only provided tools free of cost which many companies do, he and others do this without expectation of video or other collaboration. (This video you commented on we actually purchased everything with our own funds.)
Any comments we delete on this channel are ones that either contain incorrect information pertaining to jewellery techniques, or are inflammatory/offensive in nature. (or contain links but that is an automation to reduce spam.)
@@ClearMindJewellery That is NOT true, I have seen comments on here and the other video that only says their honest opinion and experience about using Andu tool, without any bad words, any disrespectful or anything else and these comments are now deleted. It´s quite obvious you are in his pocket! I should have taken screenshots of them too earlier.
I had one and the quality was really bad, and I lost a lot of money trying to sell it. I would not recommend it at all.
I know Lyndsay’s story and he invented that tool based on a public domain jack hammer design. His patents include the idle, the stroke length adjuster, the inner air cushion sleeve, the parallel heel graver as well as the palm push actuator. He’s done a tremendous service to the engraving community. This is a total knock off of a great American craftsman.
Troll
The first steam engine was Invented by Thomas Savery in 1698. And the same principles have been used in many different tool applications. Patents don’t really protect all that much, design arounds can be made , and they also don’t last very long anyway. Just look at cellphone companies, lol its nice to have Substitute goods and competitive prices. Ingersoll Rand vs Central Pneumatic, Andu Engravers is giving the people option’s. Pay $3,000 For a Lindsay or $680 for an Andu. Imagine the possibilities for new artist to learn and practice this craft.