O que eu acho ainda mais intrigante é que a mesma engine que esta jogando teoricamente os melhores lances (para ela) avaliar a propria jogada e dizer que nao foi a melhor
@Coinpolisher only 4 months late, but bots when they play only search for a limited amount of time Where as the analysis engine theoretically can search indefinitely as long as you let it go So there will be different depths searched between the bot playing and the analysis bot
I always thought so too. But you are wrong. When Stockfisch 15.1 and stockfisch 15.1 face eachother, then white wins more games than white loses. White simply has an advantage from the start. If you want 50/50 from the start, then both players should make their move at the exact same time, when playing vs eachother on a computer. And if someone has remembered move/moves in the opening or something in the new invented game I talked about, then to make even more sure it is a 50/50 from the start, you should make a shuffle for the pieces like fischer-random. Maybe sometimes also create bigger boards like for example 10x10, why only shuffle the pieces when you can shuffle the amount of board-squares too?
@@scottwarren4998 It's unproved mathematically wether a game played perfectly would be a draw or a win for white, but here you answer a totally different question. Does white has an advantage ? Yes. Does black has the ressources to always draw no matter white's moves if they play a perfect game from the starting position ? Probably.
I wouldn't call this AI. Chess is a fixed game. There are no new moves discovered. The computer just uses the same formulas over and over again. Like a calculator. A calculator isn't AI, is it?
@@IsidorGoo with stronger engines, it's simple. The chess we play now will be surpassed by chess in some years from now. It will take long, but not as long as human extinction
Stockfish vs Stockfish : The Perfect Chess I want to ask you, whta is the name of the application you use to use the chess engines, and how do you make the engines play against each other.
I really love your content. I would like to watch more games where two stockfish 15.1 bots play against each other, and i want to possibly try to play against one, too. Could you direct me to the application/engine you use to create these games please?
I use server-based stockfish so unfortunately I can’t really help you on that but if you want to play against Stockfish, you can do it from a free browser stockfish or just create a chess.com account, click play against computer and select the engine. ❤️❤️
@@Xenonity If i remember correctly, the google-team had 3 options for alphazero to play as: Agressive= going for win drawish=going for draw defensive=It plays passive, which can result in a win, draw, or loss.
0:16 i am sorry, I don’t understand anything about chess, but could the black already win by placing a black queen on A5? What am I missing? It can’t be that simple
thanks for regular videos. very nice indeed. (translate if you want) Очень увлекательное зрелище. не помню, когда подписался и с чего началось знакомство, но не могу не выразить благодарность за регулярное обновление видео. Большое спасибо!
Jugue esa misma posicion inicial por error, y ver que el modulo si lo soluciones desde el principio, me hace pensar que debo dejar de ser derrotista! :)
Он просчитывает все 8милиардов возможных ходов и столько же которые нужно сделать и мы никак не сможем понять почему он это сделал так как чтобы досчитать хотябы до милиарда нам надо без остановки считать от одного до милиарда 300 лет
it's possible to checkmate with just a rook and a king, why was it a draw? Unless both of them lose the rook the same turn there's still a chance for one of them to win.
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Its kind of scary that stockfish plays almost all the best moves according to stockfish.
Lol
Kramnik should check it
O que eu acho ainda mais intrigante é que a mesma engine que esta jogando teoricamente os melhores lances (para ela) avaliar a propria jogada e dizer que nao foi a melhor
@Coinpolisher only 4 months late, but bots when they play only search for a limited amount of time
Where as the analysis engine theoretically can search indefinitely as long as you let it go
So there will be different depths searched between the bot playing and the analysis bot
Stockfish: plays a move
Also stockfish: that move is good, but I have something better for you
a perfect game is always a draw
So true!
I always thought so too. But you are wrong.
When Stockfisch 15.1 and stockfisch 15.1 face eachother, then white wins more games than white loses.
White simply has an advantage from the start.
If you want 50/50 from the start, then both players should make their move at the exact same time, when playing vs eachother on a computer. And if someone has remembered move/moves in the opening or something in the new invented game I talked about, then to make even more sure it is a 50/50 from the start, you should make a shuffle for the pieces like fischer-random. Maybe sometimes also create bigger boards like for example 10x10, why only shuffle the pieces when you can shuffle the amount of board-squares too?
@@scottwarren4998 wdym? Being white doesn't mean advantage, racist
Perfect
@@scottwarren4998 It's unproved mathematically wether a game played perfectly would be a draw or a win for white, but here you answer a totally different question. Does white has an advantage ? Yes. Does black has the ressources to always draw no matter white's moves if they play a perfect game from the starting position ? Probably.
They are so cold. Artificial intelligence is truly scary.
I wouldn't call this AI. Chess is a fixed game. There are no new moves discovered. The computer just uses the same formulas over and over again. Like a calculator. A calculator isn't AI, is it?
@@IsidorGoo chess is NOT a fixed game and is not even close to becoming lol
@@ikr233 Explain how. I see no way (other than cheating) to discover any new moves.
@@IsidorGoo with stronger engines, it's simple. The chess we play now will be surpassed by chess in some years from now. It will take long, but not as long as human extinction
That case when both are really worthy opponents.
another day in the dark
It's like an alien chess going on and we humans prefer castling and pawn push when we donno what's going on💀
Stockfish vs Stockfish : The Perfect Chess
I want to ask you, whta is the name of the application you use to use the chess engines, and how do you make the engines play against each other.
Murphy
@@noparuthirankate7895 yeah, my pfp is Marphy Lawden
I use Arena Chess
Another awesome video by Xenonity! Great video!
I like the music
Absolutely perfect chess
AlphaZero is better
@@cineflix8926not anymore
im stuck on what song to use in my videos im just experimenting and seeing what goes well
Awesome black bishop
Stockfish dando notas para as próprias jogadas
I really love your content. I would like to watch more games where two stockfish 15.1 bots play against each other, and i want to possibly try to play against one, too. Could you direct me to the application/engine you use to create these games please?
I use server-based stockfish so unfortunately I can’t really help you on that but if you want to play against Stockfish, you can do it from a free browser stockfish or just create a chess.com account, click play against computer and select the engine. ❤️❤️
Nice keep going ❤
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@@Xenonity Does stockfisch 15.1 know when to turn on defensive mode as black?
or does a human have to do it?
@@Xenonity this game would have ended with 50 moves rule if you didnt turn on defensive mode for black?
@@Xenonity If i remember correctly, the google-team had 3 options for alphazero to play as: Agressive= going for win drawish=going for draw
defensive=It plays passive, which can result in a win, draw, or loss.
Im gonna play this when im playing with my family
Chess when played perfectly is a draw 🗿
wanted to say that you inspired me to make chess engine videos, can i ask what chess gui you use?
I use chess.com’s analysis board also I’m really happy that you got inspired by my videos, if you have any questions feel free to comment! ❤️❤️❤️
@@Xenonity yeah i was just interested in what depth you used for the engines
@@chessengines101 30-40
ah okay thanks!!
Pov: you went against your identical clone in a game of chess
Your worst enemy is yourself
0:16 i am sorry, I don’t understand anything about chess, but could the black already win by placing a black queen on A5? What am I missing? It can’t be that simple
No,Bishop d4 defend this check.
Gotham chess/levy:noone will wil because perfect chess doesnt end
Is playing with himself 🤯
great video keep it up wanted to ask if you can play leela chess zero against himself would be nice ❤🎉
POV: you're Stockfish, and you like the moves you make a lot.
thanks for regular videos. very nice indeed.
(translate if you want)
Очень увлекательное зрелище. не помню, когда подписался и с чего началось знакомство, но не могу не выразить благодарность за регулярное обновление видео.
Большое спасибо!
Thank you! 😁❤️
Jugue esa misma posicion inicial por error, y ver que el modulo si lo soluciones desde el principio, me hace pensar que debo dejar de ser derrotista! :)
1:16 acá el stockfish de las blancas podría haber echo el mejor intercambio de la partida sacándose el alfil de las negras que le metía mucha presión
Cheater vs Cheater
한국사람이다
HvH
Lollolo
The winner will still stockfish..😂😂
Rather Offensive mode
alphazero vs sf 15.1????
Stockfish vs stockfish 😂
stockfish can't even defeat itself crazy
i love your content🫶
Thank you so much! ❤️❤️🫶
Stockfish: *joga uma partida*
Tb stockfish: "Joguei muito bem, vou me dar 4000 de rating"
0:41 I really want to know why the bishop did that? it's like he want to take the horse but nothing happen
Он просчитывает все 8милиардов возможных ходов и столько же которые нужно сделать и мы никак не сможем понять почему он это сделал так как чтобы досчитать хотябы до милиарда нам надо без остановки считать от одного до милиарда 300 лет
Yes that's true he predicted a move that will most likely be useful after 40 moves. Normal mind however can't do it
@Xenonity Can you please answer. what does defensive mode mean? Is it even possible to use it in stockfish 15,1?
I heard they removed it.
as i said before I’m using a server-based engine so it still has the option
i feel like a noob, lol
Один читает мысли другои вйдит будущее
2:41 very lol
half the match is just piece shuffle lmao
The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference.
it's possible to checkmate with just a rook and a king, why was it a draw? Unless both of them lose the rook the same turn there's still a chance for one of them to win.
You cannot say Go Go Rah Rah Good Move! People want some emotion. Chess is an art not a spectator sport - Garry Kasparov
Please stop write stockfish is 4k elo
Stockfish 15.1 is actually around 3650-3700
Its really hard to tell what elo is stockfish is at
Stockfish 15 is 3700 elo
Stockfish 15.1 is 4k elo
you do know engines rating varies on the depth you use/time to think per move, so he probably put 4000 because he is using a high depth.
@@chessengines101 yes but no you can't change 300 elo like that
15.1 is 4000 elo
How do you recognize a perfect chess game? It is a dead-draw!
If perfect chess is always a draw.....then eventually when the human mind is replaced by AI, there will be no more chess. Thats a sad future.
Dark SisTer 5.0
Làm câch nào để dùng stockfish?
Song name?
N’to Trauma (Worakls Remix)
link in description
Cool man
Good game
I really appreciate that! ❤️🥰
Я так и знал , что он выиграет
nice
tá maquinado
Понял только одно, у всех вместе взятых претендентов на чемпионский титул шансов против стокфиша ноль.
4000 elo making mistakes?
Chess is fun when you play with noobs. Once you progress, you will feel less and less fulfillment and more and more frustration :D
Холод настолько сильный что нужно надеть шапку
I think stockfish 15.1 will win
No way! Stockfish 15.1 is SO much better!
Prosím, pomenujte pieseň
stockfish Very best
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Làm câch nào để dùng stockfish?
Làm câch nào để dùng stockfish?