Motorcycle capacities have always been like fisherman's tales, stretched somewhat. But the Kwak z900RS must be first bike in history to round down the 948cc engine to 900 for the side panel....
Good point! Some manufacturers would have rounded it up to 1000! Mine was very close, I seem to recall, as it had been rebored (very badly). If memory serves it was up to 991, but I could be wrong. I’ll check the historical documents, which are still in my filing system (cardboard boxes in the shed) somewhere.
Got the lot right - slightly wobbled on the Guzzi but came down on the right side . I have seen the Triumph Quadrant in the flesh so no catch out for you !
Ha! I think most folk have found the Guzzi the hardest, it really does channel the original to perfection. A mate had one of them and boy, was I jealous! As for the Quadrant, I think I’m right in saying it’s at the National Motorcycle Museum, where I’ve been many times - so I must have clapped eyes on it too! I’m well overdue for another visit. Well played and thanks for the comment. 😊
It's pretty easy to tell them apart even as a young person, newer retro bikes will always look bulkier in comparison, and the brakes also give it away easily. Matte black bits too, good luck finding a new bike without them!
10 outta 10, was too easy… Owning a Norton Commando 850, a BSA B44, a Triumph mongrel (1971 650 engine in a ridgid 1951 frame as a bobber) & a lifelong interest in motorcycles since I was about 10 (in 1973) helps as well.
What a clever video Phil. Scored 10/10 thanks to your generous each way option on number ten, was feeling the pressure and guessed classic then quickly changed to retro. I love my R18 its definitely an adults only bike, violent (vibrant) acceleration and sexy good looks
Yes, The classics are far better! and can be built to be far better. still, modern Bikes struggle to stay with my 750s and 850s, also a fried still insists on the same as my ex-Race bike a wide line short stroke 500cc Norton SS. I sold my triples, and all my Triumphs years ago and I don't really miss them, although I do have a soft spot for my old Triple, and two or three of my favourite Bonnies, 1965 T120, 1969 T120R with UK Bodywork and full race engine in it with a reworked frame, it was an ex-Racer when I purchased it in 1979, and I finished rebuilding and Balancing the whole motor to a much higher degree, it was a lovely little Bike when finished, sadly I never got to race it again, an injury sidelined me to the backroads only, and finally the best handling of the Bonnies my 1978, T140V. I never found the Triumphs as appealing as the Norton I still have my Favourites, all but one, of them that was a rough looking but highly tuned Black 750 rubber-mount in a Wideline frame, it was my go-to Bike for years sorry I ever let that one go. All these years later, I still Have my 850 Interstate in Red, my first fantasy Bike when young until I discovered the Black and Gold and Blue and Silver 900ss's, in a Local Ducati dealer in Chadwell Heath, way beyond my merger 15 pounds a week Engineer apprentices wage. I also own my 1968 Atlas with a reworked engine a loverly Bike, and Finally a 1969 Blue Norton S -Type, I have another *50 in Bits, Trying to Copy Peter Williams's Blue and white Bike, but with an 850 Engine the same frame Changed a little, 38mm forks with Race Tech cartridges and modern flat slide downdraft Carbs, Still a work in progress, and looking like the white 73 Bike, luckily for me I meet Peter at a show and got to discuss it at length, a marvellous Man. No, the retro's don't and won't give the lifetime of pleasure the originals gave.
Interesting stuff. If you watch my video on my five favourite classics, you’ll see I’ve put the Commando at No. 1, ahead of my current Triumph Trident. So I agree with you re the Nortons. The Bonnie came in at number three. All great bikes with bags of character, which I feel the retros somewhat lack. Thanks for the comment. 😊
@@3Phils I agree with you fully, personally although I raced a Featherbed, I think you were right on the money with placement, with the Norton Commando as the Best British Bike ever. I even built a big-bore Triple, in an isolastic frame, as the factory did in the late seventies. Except it was built out of factory team left-over parts From the Daytona Bikes, including a factory-developed head with 30mm welded-on inlet stubs, it was a lovely Bike, I only got shakedown and fix mileage out it before it sold real fast, over to France via a Business partner I had at the time, parts came via Ted Hubbard and Frank Marasek, He Kept the Rob North Frame, I'm not sure what he did for an Engine as I got all those and parts, plus paul Smarts modified forks and stock-ish Frame. it was actually a BSA Motor that I used, Ted supplied some extra parts, looked really nice with an Interstate tank on it. What finished me, on Triumphs was their bittyness, with separate pushrod tubes and rocker boxes, etc. The Norton was just so much better Built and Designed, although gear-driven timing would have been nice. At the time, in the late 80's early 90's everyone and his dog seemed to want a Bonnie, and I just got sick of them. All the Best.
Please press on, I like it! "... if enough of your friends are still alive." Who are we, the geriatric penelists? lol! Sir, I'll have you know that I still start my Velos and the Bonneville when they are NOT on the stand.😎
Ha! I’m just pandering to my audience! Which RUclips tells me is mostly 65 plus. A few of my chums have ridden off to the great racing circuit in the sky, but they all had electric starters. 🤣
@@3Phils So sadly did some of my best mates, although I'm still not retired. Of course, I can't tell how long my bikes are going to oblige me to start instead of rolling on the floor laughing.
It’s a beautiful bike you can actually own, a mate of mine had one. They’ve since upped it to an 850 I believe. www.cycleworld.com/story/bikes/2021-moto-guzzi-v7-first-look/
Very tricky, such small pictures
I scraped through 9 out of 10,but the R18 was tricky, and the Quadrant also
9 out of 10
Got all including trick question
Excellent!
Piss easy, 10/10🇦🇺
Got them all right, but did have to think about the guzzi and BMW. Great stuff, thanks .
Yes, I think those two were the trickiest! Thanks for the nice comment. Well played! 😊
Motorcycle capacities have always been like fisherman's tales, stretched somewhat. But the Kwak z900RS must be first bike in history to round down the 948cc engine to 900 for the side panel....
Good point! Some manufacturers would have rounded it up to 1000! Mine was very close, I seem to recall, as it had been rebored (very badly). If memory serves it was up to 991, but I could be wrong. I’ll check the historical documents, which are still in my filing system (cardboard boxes in the shed) somewhere.
Got the lot right - slightly wobbled on the Guzzi but came down on the right side . I have seen the Triumph Quadrant in the flesh so no catch out for you !
Ha! I think most folk have found the Guzzi the hardest, it really does channel the original to perfection. A mate had one of them and boy, was I jealous! As for the Quadrant, I think I’m right in saying it’s at the National Motorcycle Museum, where I’ve been many times - so I must have clapped eyes on it too! I’m well overdue for another visit. Well played and thanks for the comment. 😊
So very clever how you avoided showing the puddles of oil beneath the actual classics, otherwise the quiz would've been so much easier.
Ha! If you squint you can tell what’s what by the state of the nuts. Thanks for the comment. 😊
@@3Phils ...that's what she said.
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It's pretty easy to tell them apart even as a young person, newer retro bikes will always look bulkier in comparison, and the brakes also give it away easily.
Matte black bits too, good luck finding a new bike without them!
You’re not wrong! Thanks for the comment. 😊
One hundred percent..........I used to be a bike mechanic at the time of all these examples.
Well played, sir!
One dead give away is usually the carbie. 10 out of 10. Being an old fart helped.
Hehe! Some of those Hinckley Triumphs have very convincing fake carbs on them though! Well played!
10 outta 10, was too easy…
Owning a Norton Commando 850, a BSA B44, a Triumph mongrel (1971 650 engine in a ridgid 1951 frame as a bobber) & a lifelong interest in motorcycles since I was about 10 (in 1973) helps as well.
Indeed, too easy for a gent with all your experience! I was just hoping to give the young ‘uns a chance. 😉 Thanks for the comment. 😊
I am, apparently, also The Pope. Too easy, I'd say, or maybe, as the X says, I am teched by gawd....
Ha! Well played, Your Holiness!
What a clever video Phil. Scored 10/10 thanks to your generous each way option on number ten, was feeling the pressure and guessed classic then quickly changed to retro. I love my R18 its definitely an adults only bike, violent (vibrant) acceleration and sexy good looks
Glad you enjoyed it - and well played! So what you’re saying is your R18 is a very sexy looking vibrator? Ha!
@@3Phils Only for the dilated enthusiasts
@BikesDrones Aaaarrrghhh!
9/10
Full marks ,I even new which classic it was ,including the quadrant .Oh dear showing my age a bit . Guess my age !
Well done! Now I’ll guess your age. Er, same as me! Ha!
I almost scored 10 from 10! Took the Guzzi to be a V35/50 from yore
Bugger! 😊
They do look very similar, Moto Guzzi have done a great job with their retro I think. 👍
Yes, The classics are far better! and can be built to be far better. still, modern Bikes struggle to stay with my 750s and 850s, also a fried still insists on the same as my ex-Race bike a wide line short stroke 500cc Norton SS. I sold my triples, and all my Triumphs years ago and I don't really miss them, although I do have a soft spot for my old Triple, and two or three of my favourite Bonnies, 1965 T120, 1969 T120R with UK Bodywork and full race engine in it with a reworked frame, it was an ex-Racer when I purchased it in 1979, and I finished rebuilding and Balancing the whole motor to a much higher degree, it was a lovely little Bike when finished, sadly I never got to race it again, an injury sidelined me to the backroads only, and finally the best handling of the Bonnies my 1978, T140V. I never found the Triumphs as appealing as the Norton I still have my Favourites, all but one, of them that was a rough looking but highly tuned Black 750 rubber-mount in a Wideline frame, it was my go-to Bike for years sorry I ever let that one go. All these years later, I still Have my 850 Interstate in Red, my first fantasy Bike when young until I discovered the Black and Gold and Blue and Silver 900ss's, in a Local Ducati dealer in Chadwell Heath, way beyond my merger 15 pounds a week Engineer apprentices wage. I also own my 1968 Atlas with a reworked engine a loverly Bike, and Finally a 1969 Blue Norton S -Type, I have another *50 in Bits, Trying to Copy Peter Williams's Blue and white Bike, but with an 850 Engine the same frame Changed a little, 38mm forks with Race Tech cartridges and modern flat slide downdraft Carbs, Still a work in progress, and looking like the white 73 Bike, luckily for me I meet Peter at a show and got to discuss it at length, a marvellous Man. No, the retro's don't and won't give the lifetime of pleasure the originals gave.
Interesting stuff. If you watch my video on my five favourite classics, you’ll see I’ve put the Commando at No. 1, ahead of my current Triumph Trident. So I agree with you re the Nortons. The Bonnie came in at number three. All great bikes with bags of character, which I feel the retros somewhat lack. Thanks for the comment. 😊
@@3Phils I agree with you fully, personally although I raced a Featherbed, I think you were right on the money with placement, with the Norton Commando as the Best British Bike ever. I even built a big-bore Triple, in an isolastic frame, as the factory did in the late seventies. Except it was built out of factory team left-over parts From the Daytona Bikes, including a factory-developed head with 30mm welded-on inlet stubs, it was a lovely Bike, I only got shakedown and fix mileage out it before it sold real fast, over to France via a Business partner I had at the time, parts came via Ted Hubbard and Frank Marasek, He Kept the Rob North Frame, I'm not sure what he did for an Engine as I got all those and parts, plus paul Smarts modified forks and stock-ish Frame. it was actually a BSA Motor that I used, Ted supplied some extra parts, looked really nice with an Interstate tank on it.
What finished me, on Triumphs was their bittyness, with separate pushrod tubes and rocker boxes, etc. The Norton was just so much better Built and Designed, although gear-driven timing would have been nice.
At the time, in the late 80's early 90's everyone and his dog seemed to want a Bonnie, and I just got sick of them. All the Best.
Please press on, I like it!
"... if enough of your friends are still alive." Who are we, the geriatric penelists? lol!
Sir, I'll have you know that I still start my Velos and the Bonneville when they are NOT on the stand.😎
Ha! I’m just pandering to my audience! Which RUclips tells me is mostly 65 plus. A few of my chums have ridden off to the great racing circuit in the sky, but they all had electric starters. 🤣
@@3Phils
So sadly did some of my best mates, although I'm still not retired.
Of course, I can't tell how long my bikes are going to oblige me to start instead of rolling on the floor laughing.
@carlnapp4412 🤣
Is the Moto Guzzi a protoype?
If available I'd have one. It's definitely a modern classic, not a retro.
It’s a beautiful bike you can actually own, a mate of mine had one. They’ve since upped it to an 850 I believe.
www.cycleworld.com/story/bikes/2021-moto-guzzi-v7-first-look/
10
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Thanks. Probably because I spend too much time reading classic bike mags...@3Phils
You’re not the only one! 😉
I got Q4 rong all i could see was one twin shock an exhaust and a disc brake. Thought is was a new bsa or RE
9/10 though, that ain't bad! Thanks for the comment. :)
It's easy, get on it and if it won't go around corners without you filling your pants, it's a classic....
Hehe!
9
Good score! 👍
@@3Phils The retro BMW caught me out.
It is quite convincing from certain angles.
Q7. Answer is both, surely.
It’s a beautiful machine, that’s for sure.
My IQ is 10!
Excellent! You’re a genius! 🧠
I can spot the real thing from the garbage fakes from a mile away.