Gotva Prime Red Crit Mechanic Explained - Updated Build | Warframe
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2023
- Gotva Prime Red Crit Mechanic Explained - Updated Build | Warframe
We got an updated on the funky Mechanic of the TennoCon 2023 Rifle, The Gotva Prime!
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Official confirmation by DE, Chance is 15%.
I love it! Thanks for all your hard work.
I'm using this build except I think [Rifle aptitude] (90 status chance) makes more sense to me rather than galvanized version?!
@@AwesomeViibes galvanized gives you 80% damage also
That makes sense, it seems to be designed to advertise and/or complement the new puncture status effect. Especially given the fact that the weapon only deals puncture damage, making the recently buffed puncture damage mods just as effective as elemental damage mods
I figured that was the case, tethered it with cold and threw on that hammer shot.
I love this gun. It just feels so nice. Usual bread n butter gun, basic af, but gets the job done.
Except against acolytes
@@Charlies_Factoryas are most viral +slash based weapons; if you build for corrosive cold, then obviously it'd be better for acolytes
@@k-disboher1105 Its a bad gun tbh
I run Hate for Acolytes anyway
@@Charlies_Factory Not all guns have to destroy acolytes, just get a good secondary and that's it.
Thanks for the effort, you and the lot. Now we know how it works and can build around it 👍
No problem 👍
I tried it when I just got it in simulacrum, no mods, no abilities, just shot a whole magazine and I was super confused as to why I was getting consistent red crits. Definitely modding for this
really thanks man you did a great effort
As I never go deep into super high levels, this weapon is perfect for the content I do, so I'll have the time of my life with this one
Nice findings. I wondered what was up since just spraying bullets at crowds didn't lead to many crits but focusing on a single heavy target would give way more than the 5% originally estimated. That makes sense if the crits start kicking in after status procs stack up.
This is the first gun in warframe that gives me consistent random red crits, i thought it was bc i was playing harrow and using his crit buff but I noticed when the ability was no longer active it was still consistently randomly red criting
This makes a lot of sense. Today while running some excavation fissures using this wonderful gun, I was consistently getting like 10 red crits in a row on a single target, while only running critical delay and viral munitions. I felt the 5% may have been a bit incorrect because of that. Regardless this gun is amazing! This new mechanic makes me wonder if they are going to be rebalancing status vs crit in the future.
Keep up the great work Leyzar!
I think 5% is right without status mods. You feel about 10%( me too, trust me, i feel that too) due to multi shot
It shoot with 84 ammo, with multi so you feel alot of red number is easily to explain
Mystery Solved... The Red Crits are caused by the Enhanced Damage Numbers Setting.
If you want to use your 2nd as your main gun, or melee this gun is great for building status effects, then swapping from.
literally use the cedo or the lenz, cold+whatever else you add
@@ShadonicX7543keywords “if you want to use your 2nd as your main gun”
@@ShadonicX7543 I think Sekinafi29 just misunderstood and thought Rapsnack just said to only use Cedo instead of using two guns. Rather then Cedo being an even better option compared to Gotva. Though for anyone reading this remember you don't need to use the best options every time, variety is the spice of life and Gotva also can get the job done. The nice thing is if you played recently even as a new player their is a good chance you got the Gotva, the same might not be true of cedo.
@@ShadonicX7543 cedo is good, but it does have some drawbacks of its own, and after a few times of its glaive bouncing off of one enemy and going to another room entirely only to wait for it to return, you can get very annoyed with it
Thanks, i was really confused
Good status, great sound, very satisfying reload. Perfect AR-style gun.
Im running the status build you do in this, but im running with Piercing Caliber over a second element and that's also working quite nicely.
That's actually a really cool mechanic. Imo this gun is great to take advantage of the new puncture and cold status effects. Thanks for the builds again Mr Leyzar.
thanks!
I'm glad that it wasn't some sort of bug because I've been enjoying this rather simple gun
This is a really good video.
Ohhhhhh, that's why it was shredding everything in the star chart. I thought it was the vigilante set
It would have been nice if they'd given us a clue with a buff icon or something, lol. Thanks for pestering DE about it, Leyzar!
DE = Doesn't Explain. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I WAS LIKE WTH IS THIS RED CRIT
I mean we had the same reaction when we first used the nataruk bow with no mods and getting a red crit
Watch your tone!
Me: (Looks at Gyre, looks at Gotva Prime) I'm, uh... gonna be right back...
I used it with like only 60% status and had a 3 mag spree of 0 reds then all on 1 enemy I saw a literally cloud of red crits. Them odds are crazy.
It's got nothing to do with Odds.... The Damage Numbers Update Prioritises Red Crits when you Exceed the Damage Numbers Cap... Which is why you only See Red Crits.
Switch to Legacy Numbers to see all previous 30 Numbers (the Cap is 30 on Legacy).
@lookalike4805 on single target weapon I'm not exactly gonna exceed the number display cap. I'm just saying that I got 0 red crits on multiple targets, then suddenly did all of them in a row to 1 target, which would be 1/10 (if it's 10%)^the number of shots I did. For that to happen.
I think you underestimate the Power Of Multishot. 🤔
@@lookalike4805 not really lol
Thank you! I've been telling people who are complaining that the gun sucks or is mediocre but who are using the same build they put on every other assault rifle that they *need* Hammer Shot.
With many things in this game, if they say it’s garbage they are probably using it wrong
I would be excited but I didn't get my gotva 😢 not sure what went wrong
@@diamonshade7484 Did you make sure your accounts were linked?
I never said it was Garbage but I never Said it was Good Either....
Atleast I got MR out of it so that's Something 👍
@@diamonshade7484You need to re-link your twitch Account, i had the same problem. There are Guides how to Do it on the forums
Primary plated rounds works surprisingly well for some reason
Use primary dead shot
Was testing this with Zephyr Tornados and Gas + Electric was red criting 50% of the time.
Oh God, zephyr. It's 4am and I'm compelled to go forma the gun instead of doing a healthy thing.
Pls throw me the zephyr build
I found with a Gauss build that I tailored to do something specific, I get a similar outcome. I also have a styanax to try since thermal sunder plus rally point and armor strip should make the thing nuclear level brutal. I might try blast to see is something funny happens actually
Switch to Legacy Damage Numbers then Test it Again. 👀
Leyzar Says [Hammer Shot] is best in slot, mod price goes up like a rocket in 2 days. Thats what I call a real Influencer. Great video bwt, good to know why it red crits.
cool
I thought using point strike would effect the result. Status for red crit? Neat.
This gun has been carrying be through my first lich
Yessir
Its a crit rainbow. The MIGHTY SEER boosts crits too
FACTS 😎 !!!
Gotva prime is deadly in Saryn's hand, especially with nourish and venom dose, an un forma-d Gotva can cheese steel path (btw this is not using the gotva's passive, since i don't think external elemental effect can proc the passive)
No, i do believe it has to be the status you put on the weapon itself, cus dang that would be op asf
might go well with vigilante set's own extra crit level chance.
just building crit without the generic crit chance mods at this point lol
It feels kinda weird. But it's pretty capable. But I revert back to the Quellor which is absolutely broken in a fun way.
To people who DID watch the show and still didnt get anything. Go and unlink and relink your account. Mine had been apparently in limbo for a year and when i relinked and then relogged into warframe i ended up with a mail that had every single drop i had scored since ....which was 30 items 😐
Holy shit I've been away from warframe so long we got the steel path modifier for simcularion
I did not watch the tennocon stream this year and didn't know what they whould give. So i found the riven of the gotva prime and i was so confused about it, cause i never heard of that gun before lmao. I dont need it so if someone whants it i can sell it
did you remove or change the galvanized mods? it may impact the info. I think I saw them activated at least once during the brief testing shown.
unmoded, you saw arcane tempo and growing power
@@LeyzarGamingViews ah. just making sure. 10% chance is nutty.
i still havent got my gun or frame, and i watched the stream from start to finish
Just some screwing around with this new info, but I seem to be getting *more* red crits when I have base critical chance. Maybe the chance of the red crit is also dependent on *not* rolling a crit that bullet. Maybe my brain is playing tricks on me
It's like Incarnon Devouring Atrition but adding Crit if you dont Crit
So does that mean if you go over 100% Crit Chance then you will never Red Crit ? 🤔
@lookalike4805 no idea. I haven't tested it enough. It's just something I noticed in small tests. Probably wrong. With the info released today, I'm sure proper testers will figure things out eventually
I wonder if galvanized scope would be good
Random crit finally in warframe
So basically forgo the Critical chance and just run critical damage and status.
DE forgot the regular gotva at home, we only got the prime.
Same goes for *Euphona Dakra & Reaper Prime* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@lookalike4805 Damn, DE really like to get the snacks _before_ dinner.
love you
This gun is what I loved about the braton when I started warframe. Basic rifle , no gimmicks just reliable damage .
there are gimmicks, they are just passive in this case
Off topic but what shoulder armor piece your rev has ??
Loved how it looks
It's the Vetala Prime armor set :>
@@riffska tyvm! Will look for it when Varzia has it in rotation
Nvm it’s rev’s prime acces :(
@@taigerpendragon5938 yeah it's pretty expensive, however, the thingy will probably come around again someday so,, you have plenty of time to save up if you really want it
The new puncture status mechanics makes critical chance procs more so it’s nice to build Corrosive cold to build up more Critical Damage to take advantage of the high puncture crit effects.
All you need now is *Primary Encumber* 🤓
Does it have inate punch through? I wish I could check myself but I can't. I might be confused, but I thought I remembered someone saying it does.
Maybe you mixed up Innate Puncture with Innate Punchthrough 🤯
I like the AK47 feel of this gun. Not sure if I wanna invest a potato into it or not though
It was with orokin yet! Need some forma to maximum it
Oh right !
it comes preinstalled with a catalyst if you obtained it via twitch/steam drop
How is your reload 1.5? It shows that my reload is 2 even though I put in the same exact mods
Arcane Merciless gives reload speed passive.
Primary merciless weapon arcane at R5
hi i love to try this gun out but i still have not received it i stayed up to watch tennocon i even claimed it on twitch and yes all my accounts are linked just wondering if im not the only one who still haven't received theirs.
I’m still waiting too
That chance should be higher, but then maybe status chance as a whole should be
10% chance to red crit is not bad at all, but when you consider the fire rate of this gun, 10% is actually quite a lot, there will almost always be a red crit flashing
Now then...can vigilante mods increase the crit stage of that red crit??
Sadly no, its a hard 300% like the kavat buff. Leyzar has commented on this on other videos.
So, from what I understood, we should mod it for zero crit chance and go nuts with crit damage and status, is that correct?
You should Ignore it's Gimmick Completely and mod it like Every other Rifle.
@@lookalike4805 ignoring what makes something special is kind of a bad idea in this game... imagine if you modded lavos like you would mod a volt or vauban... wouldnt work out too well would it?
Special =\= Good.
See the *Stug* for Reference. 🤔
@@lookalike4805 special doesnt mean good, but unlike the stug, this thing does actual considerable damage with a gimmick and stats that are all positives
you cant compare the stug to... anything that does damage! the stug is "special" in a very different way
I'm highly convinced this is basically Grakata Prime.
Lorewise and mechanically speaking I have no doubts as well
well no technically it Aeolok Prime
@@Sheed96nah technically Aeolak is on the same vein of Mutalist Quanta in that it's kinda not really a variant
@@DawnAfternoon Aelok is a void touched version of Gotva prime
@@DawnAfternoon I think paracyst woupd have been a better comparison, given it's so different from a quanta it has a different name, like the aeolak.
so i can focus on crit damage (and status) and forget about crit chance?
Do some math and you will find your own answer. But imo yellow crit + 5% red crit is far better than 1/2 not crit at all!
its entirely up to you, i would experiment and just see what feels the best or what feels the most reliable
if you have simulacrum, tinker with the loadout a bit and see what happens
@@bugsmith9751 thank you a Lot :)
Ok cool so I'm not missing much not having this weapon
Are you sure that's not just Copium ? 🤐
@@lookalike4805 yes
Fair enough 👍
Me, using Hameme Shot on Gotva even before this video: "I am four parallel universes ahead of you!"
and you only need 1 forma for this build too, an extra V
Which I picked it up but I was being a stubborn dip shit when I logged on I didn’t get ducats etc so fml maybe next timr
Pretty sure if you read the puncture status affect by hovering your mouse over it it'll tell you how puncture stacks as a status. I believe it's 25% unless it's special for gotva
Did we finally figure out how this thing works?
A few details are still unknown but atleast now we know it's not a Bug.
This with zypher prime make steel path easy af😂 saw a video on it
you can make steel path easy with nearly anything! if you have good mods, almost every gear item can run steel path... i even seen some dude run with mk1 gear in steel path and it worked shockingly well
So whats the deal with not disclosing this mechanic if people can just figure it out anyway? For the video clicks?
I guess for balance changes in the future?
@@ptbro3334 Yeah idk, weird. I will say as someone who works in this space, making patch notes sucks and takes forever across multiple workers. So maybe that too? lol
DE = Doesn't Explain.
It's just how they Operate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
is this weapon obtainable again in the future? it sounds so good 😭
It will be available through relics.
lesgoo@@disbelief3911
@@disbelief3911 its not for sure through relics, it likely will come from them, but DE may decide to do something weird for it
all they confirmed was that if you miss out, it will come back in the future... maby it will come as a quest reward for the next cinematic story
Ofcourse it is not best rifle but it is extreme good option for newbie. It is far better than braton, boltor( without genesis) soma blah blah.
It is the good thing to research because imo, it is the first gun count crit as one status
Let's hope those new players had the Good Sense to Watch Tennocon because this thing is MR 14 🤐
@@lookalike4805 wow. Really dont know about it. But in fact when i cameback 5 months ago, im still at mr 16 too! And i knew almost nothing about game that time
@@lookalike4805 it don't take much to get to mr 14
There's much Better Options at MR 14.... You will Outgrow this gun before you Reach that MR.
its not the best, but its still extremely powerful... you have to consider that in a game where some people can mod the lowest tier gear to work in steel path... that "BEST" really does not matter at all
Does this mean that hunter munitions' slash procc guarantees 10 % red crit?
probably not but maby!
still waiting for de to give me my twitch drops
I watched tenno con and didn't get reward gun this is not first time I relinked before stream nothing im on Xbox shouldn't be problem now with crossplay or kinda unfair
I still haven't received my Gotva Prime sad sad day.
Try unlinking and relinking your Twitch account. Assuming you claimed the drop on Twitch it should go through immediately once you relink accounts. Worked for my friend.
I had to unlink my twich account from warframe and then relink it... they did something strange called twitch drops 2.0. Try doing that
Did you retrieve it from the drops tab on Twitch?
@@XtarPlatinumPlatinumGang I got the notification but nothing showed up in my drops tab. I keep having to edit this with my poor English LOL.
Hey, I had the same issue and I did some research into it. If your Warframe account was linked to Twitch before 2021, then you'll have to relink it. They changed how drops work in 2021. Do a quick google and you'll find instructions from DE.
Does punch through affect the red crit chance? With primed shred on i shot through a straight line of enemies in simulacrum and it was just pure red crit only
Yes the more enemies you hit with a single bullet the more red crits you hit
Yep, that why primed shred is good here. It count as normal buller
Turns out the Punch Through thing is just a Myth...
The Reason you see more Red Crits is because Hitting More Enemies generates more Damage Numbers... The Enhanced Damage Setting will then Prioritise The Red Ones once you go Over The Cap.
Long Story Short.... use Legacy Damage Numbers.
I DONT LIKE DROPS TWICH!! PLAy and have IT! ty for videoo
Woke up early to get the gotva prime. Watched the stream and realized 2 days after the cut of period i had to claim it not wait for it to be delivered to our inventory. Contacted both Warframe and twitch and its a big NO i miss out. Not impressed at all.
It didn't drop for me, much sad
I'd recommend dropping Thermite Rounds for Primed Shred or Vigilante offense. Having punch-through with over 100% status chance means more critical hits than with a bit more status chance, at least that's what my testing showed.
Did you Test with Legacy Damage Numbers ? 👀
This is a perfect weapon to spread myths and memes. I will tell everybody if they colored red the Gotva the % of red crits duplicate muajajaja 😂
Will you be updating your other build video for this weapon with this new information? Or is your build video still optimized for use?
i think u should try it wit citrine the 3 just gives status chance without anny other elements and u can go easy over 100% status
carefull not be 2 close 2 enemys or u get other dmg points XD
And I do love myself some Citrine!
@@LeyzarGamingViews If you have over 100% does the red crit rate still go up? I think it would not but am curious. As Archon shards can up the status chance up even more.
Someones tested it yet. It work too well with citrine!
does it specify if the status effect has to be inflicted by the gun shot itself or can it be from any outside source like citrine ability for example
also would it stack with each status u don't crit
im not sure tbh, i think from the gun because its obvious but we still need to know for testing reasons. I can assume "well obviously you have to proc a status with gotva" but its fucking warframe, so ye, i gotta know that too if it HAS to be from Gotva or if warframe abilities status procs count.
The new puncture mechanics makes critical chance go up when puncture status effects.
I didn't get my gotva😢
Put gas and cold on it got 100% status and used cold arcane paired it with mag's pull and the augment for her 4 and it absolutely wrecks.
Literally built for grendel's nourish
Does triggering multiple status with a single shot change the odds? How does this synergise with multishot?
Fun fact did you know that zephyr's tornados always gain a status when shot, did you know they also spread their damage in a aoe, did you know it shreds steel path kosmas this way
First
yes i'm the first comment
oh i'm not Posting delay
Let me guess. Riven?
165? It takes you a very long time to kill those with that.. Tenet Plasmor gets them in 1-2 shots .. why bother.
Because believe it not fun is equally as important as efficiency
@@MumboJumboZXC I think it more says you should not treat the weapon as a damage weapon, but as something you use to quickly get status procts on an enemy before swapping to something build for damage.
I...forgot to put in the thing to get it. I watched Tennocon and didn't put in the get reward command.
That doesn't do anything. You should have had a drop meter on the top right while watching fill to 100% if you watched for 30 minutes, if you go to your Drops section, it should be there to claim
I think you must to watch on Twitch, not ytb, and remember to link it( and confirmed it too)
Those Commands are Fake.... Apparently it's Stream Trolling.
can you make a video explain how Gotva Prime work?
garbage weapon