Expert Ski Lessons #7.5 - Skiing Steeps
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- In this lesson our ski instructor takes a look at three key skills to help you learn how to ski steep runs: edging, foot rotation and body separation.
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Absolutely the best on-line ski lessons. I've been watching them since I first took up skiing 5 yrs ago as a middle aged father looking to spend more time with my daughters. His ability to explain concepts is terrific. Any chance he gives golf lessons!?!
I was on a diamond I had skied before but at the final and steepest part it was all ice. It scared me but your voice kicked in and you talked me down the hill. Thanks a bunch. Victoria
I was amazed at how quickly these lessons help to build confidence. Even as a novice skier the steep gradients no longer feel scary when you just breathe and keep focused on the basic body positioning and foot rotation. Many thanks for such a well thought-out series!
Darren, this is one of your best videos ever. I teach skiing in the states and if skiers would follow these 3 simple skiing techniques their skiing will improve 10 fold. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks again. I literally learned to ski from scratch using this series of videos. Love the irony at around 3 minutes with the guy in the background leading the turn with his body, the absolute antithesis of the lesson itself.
I'm re-watching this series after I progressed from blue to black by taking some classes and with a lot of practice. Now the content begins to make sense and come together. Thank you..
Great to hear Ann, if you have any questions just shout.
Darren......I started with the first 3 videos on 12/11/15. My first slide was on the same day. I had never been on a ski ever in my life. Tip/Waist/Tail and DIN setting ????
By the end of Dec. I was proficient on Blue's. Over the next 4 months I skied the majority of our resorts 92 runs. Black diamonds,steeps,trees and powder. I also had 4 hour long group lessons as well. However,I have to say your lessons helped me more than anything else. I skied over 30 days with over half being 4-10 hr. days. I really got the "bug"!
This coming season I will concentrate on further refining my technique and reviewing these great videos. I am a success story of how a great series of videos with your instructor talent, got me enjoying this wonderful sport!! 95% self taught to boot.......thank you !!
Wow! I'm glad that we could be a part of such an amazing transformation and get you into such an awesome sport. We put a lot of time and effort into removing all the jargon and nonsense to make sure Darren delivers concise information that will help you learn how to ski. It's great to hear that it has helped.
Thank you for the positive feedback it makes it all worthwhile.
Cheers Noddy. (ElateMedia)
I have a hard time finding local people to to teach me how to take my skiing to the next level. With you videos I can go at my own pace.
Just rewatched this tutorial. Absolutely transformed my steeps and general skiing. I was stuck in an intermediate stage, but rewatching this has totally changed my style. I feel like I’m finally skiing! Thankyou! 👍
Hey Jamie that's amazing news. Thanks for letting us know and stoked to hear that it all 'clicked' for ya.
Thanks for your advice on steep how to skiing
This instructor is amazing; communication skills, subtle humor and great technician. We should be paying for this resource!!!
I haven't skied in years (moved away from any good ski areas), but this sure brings back memories of when I skied in WA state. Thanks!
Finally a very important technique being taught! All these 'carving or nothing' styles of teaching have been creating stiff skiers down the slopes! This technique lets us control our speed so much better, it's a great skill to add to all the skills we need for all different types of terrain.
Couldn't agree more +Zeyn1111. 'Carving' is a bit of a buzzword in skiing and it's great fun. But it is only one skill you need to have in your bag of skiing tricks to becoming a true master of the mountain. Thanks for the feedback and glad it helps.
I agree. I got hit from behind by a mad carver at Mont Tremblant a few years ago just a bit after I exited the moguls to the side of a slope. Out of control guy doing the groomed center trying to stay on his edges only. That hurt! High edge angle means the ski follows the prescribed side cut radius and that's a very gradual sweeping turn.
Could you do a video on the difference between a short fast turn where one alternates from one edge to another quicky versus a short radius turn that sheds speed. Short fast turns on the steeps look cool but certainly don't shed much speed - else they would not be a carved turn.
If you really want to shed speed or turn in the exact place you want, try some step turns. When on steep I really enjoy the upper ski semi snowplough step, it really tightens the turn. This way you need only up to 3 meters wide slope, you can go as slowly and carefully as you wish, without losing grace or control.
@@user-ci9gy2do1z thats a newb technique.
This is a good, simple lesson. The importance of keeping your upper body perpendicular to the fall line cannot be overstated. Even on regular runs but especially on steep runs and critically on steep runs in deep snow you have to keep your energy forward. If your balance gets off your weight goes back and you can't get your heels rotated. Might mention that the poles are an axis around which you rotate and also a timing device to help keep the rhythm of weighting and unweighting. Thank you.
John Malloy whats the fall line?
@@marianna380 I suspect you're kidding with me but the fall line is the line a ball would take if you rolled it down the hill. The steepest part, the shortest distance to the bottom. Every slope has one and you need to keep your upper body square to this. This prevents you from using your arms to swing yourself around to turn which would make you off-balance and unweight your skis properly. By just doing this one thing AND keeping your hands out in front of you, your skiing improves dramatically. You'll feel the difference.
He has excellent videos. He breaks the movements down into digestible instruction.
This guy is great. Self! Obey.
I'm not sure where the thumbs down are coming from. This is an excellent teaching video and the technique is spot on.
Haters are all over RUclips.
There’s a thumbs down on ever video
Probably from French people!! :P
Maybe because this isn't an 'Expert Ski Lesson'. More like beginner to advanced.
Snowboarders :D
Totally love these videos. I wish this guy was my personal ski instructor. I freaking taught my whole family how to ski after taking lessons I just left on RUclips for some reminders and basically said word for word what this guy said in my family all can ski now.
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Very helpful video..Thanks!
Best educational video series ever on tube
Thanks again +kerim abdul camber. We've worked super hard to bring you our Ski School series so I'm really wrapped that you're enjoying it and hopefully finding it useful to you skiing.
+Ski School by Elate Media i completely agree. its definitely the best series available.
Absolutely the best and I have told others. You should take pride in this Ski School series. I wish I had had it back when I started, skills would have come much more easily. Better late than never to straighten out my technique with some theory and reason. Simply the best from beginner to expert, THANKS!
so true
İts now my third season ı always keep the magical advices in my mind "just roll on your knees"( for carving) "just rely on your skis, they ll cut through the snow " (on rough terrain) if i can consider myself an upper intermediate skiier now ,this series has definitely made the biggest contribution
My son and I have been using your videos this season and last, and you have definitely helped us progress to where we both ski all the trails at our local resorts.
Thats great to hear HauptmannRSW. Stay tuned as we'll have more skiing tips and lessons coming your way
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HI Darren,
I think it would be greatly appreciated if in one of your videos you'll tell us about the ski jacket, pants and gloves. I mean you've taught us about the boots, skis & gear, why don't you teach us something about the clothes? Thank you in advance! :)
Thanks for the feedback Dan Floroiu. It is something we have considered and will hopefully cover in future films. Thanks for watching. Elate.
I'm in Telluride now and watching your videos are giving me more confidence. I have improved my carving and my parallel this week. I'm quite excited really! I'm still struggling with staying in full control thru "double blues" with steep bits as I gain quite a bit of speed, but working with my breathing and telling myself to be calm and your voice in my head from the videos I've watched so far, I might just master (clearing the throat) my Intermediate Level skiing. :) Thank you Darren and Elate Media for your fantastic support! xx
I have not yet skied at Telluride and heard nothing but great things about it. Mainly that it is a total paradise for intermediate and more casual skiers. Only place I've skied is Alaska and there's either easy local hills in Anchorage and Fairbanks, or mostly advanced at Alyeska.
Great technique. Excellent explanations. The best tips for steep slope. Thank you!
Wonderful explanation. Thankyou very much. Makes it much easier, when I can understand the process and what I am supposed to be doing. I feel you have explained a lot in just 5 minutes, which took me many group lessons to come to grips with.
Nice technique -- make skis flat (release edges) and then turn. Thank you.
great tutorial. I especially like the concept of flattening the skis before rotating the ankle.
You are absolutely a great teacher. I feel more confident just by watching your videos. There are still 2 months left untill I hit the slope again and go on with your tips for skiing. I don't know but I already feel that I can do it
You've got this. Start out gradual and build up. Confidence and enjoyment are the key. Are you heading out skiing again this winter?
I used to be an advanced skier but took time off, recently came back and now I know my problem, thank you
Great to hear that something has clicked for your skiing. Are you back skiing this winter?
Yes , hes an excellent teacher and i put this lesson to practice and was 100% helpful. Thanks.
Great lesson. I applied these 3 factors and was able to graduate to skiing black diamonds! Thank you Darren!!
This video helping me out so much. If anyone wants to get the slightest improvement , I recommend this. Keeping my hands and chest facing down the hill worked wonders!
nice lesson! i would add one other element to be aware of that Darren is actually doing...as he makes his turns on the steep, his body drops lower and presses harder against the downhill ski, which helps it arc backwards and carve to complete the turn, and just before finishing the turn he plants or touches the downhill pole below him, and his body next pushes up off the ski/snow, which makes the arced/flattened skis pop back to the cambered position, slightly lifting off the snow, and makes it easier to turn the skis and carve the next turn, where he then presses down on that turning ski and carves again. On the steeper terrain you are actually reaching down the hill, and your body tends to bend the waist toward the slope to allow the chest and arms to reach further downhill, which causes the skis to be edged even more, causing the most carving and slowing of speed. With cambered skis this movement will cause the skis to give a "pop-back" from flattened or arced backwards to the original cambered position and assist in making that change...you can actually feel the pop/springback and it is a great feeling as you basically go springing from turn to turn! At least that's how it feels to me. I find a good way to practice this is to try this on an intermediate somewhat steep but smooth slope you feel confident on, but faster and accentuating these movements to dig deeper on your turns. Once you get the feeling there, you will transfer that to the steeper slope more easily. Excellent lesson too on proper balance over the ski's center, or slightly forward, which ironically feels like you're hurling yourself farther down the hill or out into thin air ;0)
Graet videos. I find this very helpful and watch it multiple times before going skiing a few weeks ago. as stated by Darren, I am able to ski down black runs for the first time with confident foolwing the instruction and overcome my fear of the steep for years. As in his instruction, I find planting the pole down the slope helps to drivie my body forward and I feel so stable. Thanks again, Darren.
Thanks very much great to hear you find the film is useful..... winter is coming!!!!!
I tottaly agree with this comment!
Darren Turner OMG it's you! You are great at skiing! BTW... love your accent. :)
Just spent the last couple of years learning to get rid of the wedge and the skid and carve cleanly: useful style on open slopes especially if you want to go fast. Harb influenced me a lot here. However, that technique has been a problem on double blacks; too much speed buildup.Your clear explanation of foot rotation during the flat transition which coincides with unweighting the skis - this clicked in my head. I can't wait to put it into practice, and hopefully enjoy double blacks with your well- explained technique.
Thank you for your videos. That are a great help. I've bought one of your app. But I think I might buy the other ones just to support you and your videos.
Merci beaucoup. Best teacher. Thanks for all. I'am gonna try all these precious tips next time.
I can do all this I am just so excited to go skiing again so I watch these videos
I've gone through all of your videos, nice and useful stuff for learning how to teach someone to ski. Although this might have been the first video with some hints that I myself hadn't thought about. Thanks!
Great lesson, clear and easy shown the most important technics.Thx a lot
Great anf very helpfully lesson, from great instructor !!!
This man taught me how to ski. Please watch the entire series!
Great to hear. Where’s your favourite spot to ski?
You make it look so easy ! I went to a steep slope today almost broke both my legs
I've just learned how to ski really well on my own but by watching your videos I can learn how to prefect my skills. Thank you very much for the expert videos on skiing. But could you do a video of a steep black and a black with moguls I wanna see how you and you body react and how you control it to get down. Thank you very much.
I went skiing once when young and 5 times in the last 2 years. I watched and imagined doing drills Mr. Turner covers in these videos during times between skiing and taken one beginner ski lesson. I am tremendously grateful for the time, care, and expertise put into these videos and to the effort of the beginner ski lesson. I have progressed in the past 5 sessions: Greens, Blues, Blues, Easy Black, Blacks with bumps. Yesterday when I looked up at a mogul run that I navigated under control (though slow) without falling or being erratic I really felt accomplished and had so much fun. The Parallel turn (this video) and steeps video probably did me the most good but the others built the base. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
As a midwesterner, I may ski thrice a year and see plenty of ice. I kind of bootlegged a warmup run but it would be nice if you made an actual video for the now and then skier (1x-3x a year). Currently I pick a blue for the first run start super slow with hockey stop after hockey stop for the first third, speedy parallel turns for 2nd third, then straight speed to hockey stops last third. I feel after that I can move safely about but my skiing is probably rubbish :) Do you have a standard warmup for hacks? What about the bumps? How do you warm up for that other than just be mentally ready? The bumps definitely punish when I am not focused and show weakness in my tactics.
All of these online video instructors should be
promoting in-person ski lessons. People need much more than a bunch of videos
to really improve their skiing and they are thinking this is some kind of
substitute. Personally, I believe ski schools charge way too much, the
promotion of the sport through good lessons will pay in the long run. I have
over 40 years in the industry and been a Devo Coach.
Just an excellent video. Clear, well organized, bite-sized lessons. Thank you. I have learned so much in just a few minutes.
Thanks +Houdi2. We've worked so hard on the scripts to make sure we deliver really concise skiing lessons that help you guys learn how to ski. So it's great to hear such positive feedback from you. Have a great winter. Cheers Noddy
Indeed. I particularly got a lot out of the illustration with the two poles held at a right angle, to graphically demonstrate the likely outcome of not driving the upper body aggressively towards the tips at the initiation of a turn on a steep pitch. It's one thing to know this in your head but it is much more compelling to carry such a strong and succinct visual image at the front of your mind.
This is a very good session covering fundamental movements and turn dynamics. Most skiers don't make a good distinction between hanging on and letting go so they skid the turn but have to huck direction change because they don't release cleanly. Best information was using poles to show how change of gradient requires forward hip movement to stay balanced over the middle of the ski.
Thank you teacher,i can ski because of you🙏🏻
This is wonderful instruction. Thank you.
Thank you so much for your videos. They are helping me a lot.
Keep doing this great job.
That snow looks sooo tasty.
Ugh. I had a private lesson today. I told the instructor I have difficulty with skidding (I can’t skid in a turn, just use edges, which I didn’t realize was the correct way). I told him I have trouble turning my body and driving the turn forward. He said he skiied 25 years, but obviously could not help me with any of this. I should have just watched this video first!
Great! Well explained and demonstrated with master! Highly recommend.
Really helped me out. Thanks you.
Glad to hear it! Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to see
Great video. Clear explanations. flattening and rotating a ski into the next turn works, but it can also introduce a momentary skid. A great American ski coach, Warren Witherell, wrote a series of articles in Skiing mag, one of which was entitled "Edge...Then Turn". What he meant was, by getting on the inside edge of your (soon to be) outside ski, *then* weighting the ski and driving into the next turn, you never skid in the first place - being on edge from the very beginning of the new turn - as opposed to skidding into the new turn - lets you maintain a nearly continuous carve from turn to turn, with minimal skidding involved. Not saying skidding isn't useful - I just prefer this way to get down steeps or anything else.
I agree. It gives one much more confidence to have your next outside edge almost set before committing to the turn. Especially in the steeps! Nothing worse than "sliding" into a turn and discovering you've just hit a patch of ice when you try to set your edge.
I’ll try to do this thanks.
Your lessons are nice and clear, great audio. Hey, that letterbox technique is a terrific idea. I tried it and works beautifully. Easier to keep to the fall line without getting spooked. Thanks.
Awesome clip. Very helpful. Love the pole examples for body-ski relationship! Great job!
Thanks heng guo. The Letterbox exercise really helps encourage that upper body separation. Glad you like it. Stay tuned we have a lot more content coming your way soon.
Nice video. Exactly what works.
Great video and excellent pointers.
thanks a lot!! I almost learnt skiing following your tips!! Very clear and simple to put in practice
Great lessons and tips. Thanks a lot!
Thanks for the video! These are great tips, please keep it up.
No worries Rusty Hauler. Thanks for watching our how to ski lessons and stay tuned as we'll have more coming your way. Hope the season is going well. Cheers
Thank you so much great Channel
Great videos , very explanatory
Thank you much . I skied in brevant , cormyere and Argentiner , great places
Your videos are great and have helped me immensely. Thank you so much Darren!
Wonderful ski lesson !!!
Excellent lesson. Thank you.
Another great video as usual !
Thanks, I bought one of your apps in order to support your top quality work.
Watching your videos and listening to Darren I have improved also my spoken english comprehension :)
In Italy the ski season is becoming to the end; I will try the flattening exercise (and trying to pull my body down the slope confidently) next winter.
Thanks again.
This is definitely geared towards mature adults. Many kids and teenagers with their young minds and bodies can take on double black diamonds with little difficulty without getting a scratch on them, but an adult needs to use a lot of strategy and logistics to do so!
Jon Stewart I'm younger and I just want to learn the movements and not put other people or myself in danger on the mountain
Definitely, I was a very good skier as a kid, and growing up I have a prtty good sense of what falling could do to my body. I get way slower and more technical.
It's one thing taking on a double black diamond, but being able to ski it with rhythm and control is another thing entirely. A lot of youngsters fall in to the trap of thinking they're better than they are because they manage to get down a black.
Riiigghhht, just wait until you get hit by a younger out of control skier. I've been hit a few times and every time it was when I was at the side of a steep waiting for someone. You think you're out of the way standing at the very edge but noooo! I think this video is very important for young skiers to pay attention to.
I’m a young skier and I just think this video was helpful because it showed good form. I think I look good but probably not as great as I think I am
Very, very, very good advices! Thank you!
Excellent, thank you
It is very helpful lesson video...!! beacuse of this video, my ski skills are very improve than before...thanks Darren and GOOD LUCK !!
Thanks, very good teacher.
Very great advice about foot rotation, thank you!
Great videos - learned so much. Really appreciate them.
Its a pleasure Caroline. Glad you are finding our Ski Lessons so useful. More on the way later in the year.
Yea. I need this video. I went down a blue run from the top of the mountain. Couldn’t shave off speed, and ate sh!t going like mach 5.
Great ski lesson! Thanks!
Great video as usual! Got your apps too. I've managed to go from zero to tackling black slopes by following your tips. Really appreciated. Thanks
Great work! Keep it up!
JUST WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW!!!! THANKS... :)
Excellent. Glad it helped Ronda Shields. If you like this then check out our other skiing tips and lessons for more. Cheers
this seems like a good exercise as a warmup on more gentle slopes while learning to get skis parallel in turns and the hockey stop technique
+Dcxplant I meant, the part of sliding flat and stopping on edges, flatten, slide, edge stop, etc.
these are outstanding videos
Excellent 👍
Excellent.
Thanks +Mike Aronson.
Your videos are soooooo useful!!!!! Thank you very much!*-*
love your lessons a lot! thanks for sharing the wisdom!
Excellent instructions!
perfect video thank you
Harald Harb system mixed with Debbie Armstrong advice on confidence and technique will take you far and everywhere.
Awesome vids DEWD!!! I find it much easier to ski now that I watch
your vids!
Cheers Balony 1462960. We're stoked your loving our skiing lessons. Go shred.
I am sure this is exactly what I need to be working on.
Hey Richard, yeah it's a super useful skill to learn. Is steep skiing something you are working on?
@@skng Actually to be honest, having watched these videos through a few more times, the intermediate (4) track is more appropriate for my level. Although I have noticed some of the same topics come up, like edging and side slipping. I would say "steep skiiing" is beyond me for now but I definitely want to be able to ski steeper slopes than I can right now!
@@richardwild76 Yeah we thread common themes through the whole series. Check out the Hockey Stop / foot rotation film too. This is a super helpful technique that will help you with your progression onto the steeps too. Build up gradually and just enjoy the progression. If you have any questions, just shout. Cheers, Noddy.
Great vid, getting good on the blacks now. Skiing in Les Contamines, flew down Olympique at over 50mph! Tried going to Aiquille Croche later though and skiing Croche which is covered in moguls, found it impossible, hate moguls on steeps!
The mountain is so beautiful
I was trying hard to find the #8.1 you showed... haven't seen that you released this today... I tried a new style: flat boots skiing with eventual butt support. It worked, really (in compacted snow). Also the edge breaks.
If I ever try that, imma freaking fall down every time. Today is my first ski race and I AM NOT READY.
I wish you and YT were around when I was running bumps. Several instructors didn't know your concepts & ideas.
These videos are great! I am going skiing next week for the first time this season! Thanks for the help!
Excellent Aeden DeGraw. Have a great trip and enjoy the skiing. Hope the snow gods have been kind where you are.
Thanx for the quality of the videos. I thought the only way to turn was using body weight, could you explain foot rotation a bit more ?
Thanks, really helped me, especially driving fully into the turns. I was holding back on the turns when it gets steep stopping the rhythm flow. Almost like when u try to drop in on a half pipe on a skateboard for the first time.
Yeah, just like skateboarding once you commit and trust your equipment it makes a big step change. Glad it's helped your skiing. Do you have any other areas other than steeps that you're working on?
No, that was it. I was at Schlick 2000 in Austria for my first ski trip and some of the tops of the blue runs were quite steep, almost like the reds. So found your video after the first day& really helped.
@@michaelhart7546 That's so great to hear. If you have any skiing questions just shout.