From Surging to Merging: Northwest Airline's Story
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
- From the early years of the 60s to the end of the century in the 90s, Northwest Airlines in the aviation world obtained many new and technologically advanced aircraft that always had a great introduction with many airlines, especially those who hit their high career points in the mid-20th century. Northwest Airlines was a Minnesota-based airline that at one point carried the most passengers across the Pacific and was one of the top cargo carriers in the United States. But Northwest Airlines would have a severe decline at the beginning of the 21st century and continue to decline for years until they officially merged with Delta in early 2010. But if you observe Northwest Airlines' development during their time in the twentieth century, you’ll notice that they were doing pretty well financially. So what occurrence occurred in the early 2000s that caused this aviation icon to disappear?
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Few minor mistakes in the video:
-Sorry if I mispronounced Al Checchi's last name lol, it was kinda hard to pronounce, especially recording the audio.
-Northwest's final flight number was 2117, not 2470.
-The DC-3, DC-4 and Martin 404 were not turboprops
Guangzhou was also mispronounced BTW. Otherwise great and very informative vid!
@@supa_hot_ice5449 yeah my pronunciations of some cities r bad ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's pronounced "Check-ee"...
I remember an irate passenger who threatened to call "my good friend, Al Chee-Chee" - to which I responded, "well, whatever you call him - DON'T call him Al Chee-Chee... it's Al Check-ee".. completely disarming his ire, as he grinned and thanked me for his "future use" edification!
@@digameSP my Dad had something similar when working for Qantas when a customer told him he was a very good friend of Qantas CEO Captain Bert Richie.
Dad asked the passenger “Spoken to him recently have you? to which the passenger responded “Yes of course, I spoke to him last week”. My Dad said “Well, it must’ve been at a seance because the man died eighteen months ago”.
I still miss Northwest Airlines a lot. No airline is perfect, but there’s just something about the simplicity of the way NWA ran that always makes it close to my heart. It was, after all, the first airline I and my parents (who were immigrants) took.
The problem with it mainly was world events like 9/11 and the 2008 Recession as well as poor management that led to the airline’s demise.
I brought my wife from the Philippines on NWA. It will always be dear to me. Great memories.
I agree. Definitely a special one. ❤❤❤
It's called greed ladies and gentlemen. The executives wanted a big payout. I worked for them nearly 20 years. Best route structure, properties all over the place including a hotel in downtown Tokyo worth billions. Greed took this once proud airline to the brink and sold it to Delta for half of what is was worth. Just a sad story all the way around.
I flew with Northwest airlines starting in 1985. At that time, Northwest had one of the best debt/equity ratios in the industry, mainly due to the fact that we owned most of our own aircraft, versus paying high aircraft leasing costs. Then, shortly after Al Checchi and his group of corporate raiders came on the scene, having bought a majority of the stock and associated control of the Board of Directors, we started selling our aircraft to leasing companies and then leasing them back. As a direct result of that decision, millions of dollars were injected into the company, a lot of which ultimately ended up in the corrupt hands of Al Checchi and his consortium of unscrupulous, corporate raiders. However, that meant that our operating costs significantly increased, which led to pay cuts and other work concessions by most of Northwest's employees.
Soon after that, Al Checchi stepped down as CEO and made a failed attempt for Governor of California. It was estimated that he spent 40 million on his campaign. So, in essence, over 70+ years of the hard work and dedication of the Northwest Airlines employees was pilfered, in just a few years, by a corrupt, ego driven man and his group of corporate raiders. Sadly, that was very typical of the airline industry following the Deregulation Act of 1978. Leveraged buy-outs (LBOs) and bankruptcies became the norm throughout the industry and thousands of airline employees lost their jobs and careers.
True, there did seem to be a lot of corruption within the high business ranks of an airline. It also sucks that airlines like Eastern, Braniff, and Pan Am collapsed after working their butts off to become one of the best airlines in the market only to have a dramatic downfall.
From someone who was also there, I'd say that summed it up pretty well. 😔
Yep. Another slime like Carl Icahn.
It’s a shame what this clown Al Checchi did to Northwest. This said how many here know Pan American World Airways CEO Tom Plaskett made a hard earned attempt to merge the two carriers in 1989. If successful, most likely the merged mega international carrier would be flying today.
@sanitman1488 you are correct I wonder what airline alliance would they join to if they went. Skyteam the NWA World Clubs get South Koreans Skypass🇰🇷 Dutch🇳🇱 Frenchmen🇫🇷 Kenyan Flying Blue Spaniard Suma Air Europa which survived it's original parent airline Air Europe🇬🇧 Italian ITA Volare 🇨🇳Chinese Egret Club Eastern Miles Taiwanese 🇹🇼 Dynasty Flyer Vietnamese Lotus Miles Brits Flying Club🇬🇧 and Mexican Aeromexico Rewards. Star Alliance World Clubs get Germans🇩🇪 Austrians🇦🇹 Swiss Poles Miles and More Aeroplan🇨🇦 Phoneix Miles🇨🇳 🇰🇷 Asiana Club 🇹🇭Royal Orchid Plus 🇯🇵 ANA Mileage Club
It was the buyout by Al Checchi and Gary Wilson, they took NWA from basically debt free, to being over 3 billion in debt! I worked for them from 1988-2005. They drained cash from the airline, and filled their pockets.
I worked as a Flight Attendant for 10 years… it was my first airline and I remember it fondly and love and miss NWA
I hired on as a mechanic in 1987. We used to say Rothmeyer (may have spelled that wrong) would steal a nickel from the employees but deposit it back in the company bank accounts. When Checchi took over he would steal the same nickel but it would end up in his pocket. Checchi, Icahn, Lorenzo, and several others should have been in jail. Witnessed a great carrier fail. Was blessed to get out before the union decided to go out on strike when the company was looking for an excuse to lay off several hundred mechanics.
There is one other piece of trivia that I think demonstrates how wrongheaded the thinking management was. The later Northwest logo at the time of the bowling shoe livery always had the pointer in the upper left hand corner. A compass pointing northwest. The last livery of Northwest had the arrow in the upper left corner on one side of the plane but in the upper right on the other. Hence the logo was pointing North East 😂.
Former northwest airlines attendant. Dtw and msp based. Worked for them for 5 years. Left in 2005 before bankruptcy. Sad, they used to own all their planes. Some Yahoo decided better to create a leasing company. Sell the planes to the that company and lease them back. Crested so much debt. I miss NWA. Because of all the Asia flying I did, I was introduced to another world. I still fly to Asia once a year for Vacation. A friend of mine stayed when Delta bought them. Delta voted out the union. She said she was miserable. The employees would tell on each other. Delta management would always say, that's not the Delta way. I never have and never will fly Delta. I now fly on china airlines. I saw the world because of NWA. I miss the lifestyle for many reasons. Not much money, but rewarding in otjer ways. We also had the largest dc9 fleet. I loved the dc9. I also loved working on the queen of the sky's. I Miss the 747. Few times I was on a positioning flight. I was able to sit in the flight deck. Awesome.
Northwest Airlines was a great airline. On my visit to Tokyo, Japan's Narita Airport in March, 1986, I counted Seven Northwest Airlines Boeing 747-100s and 200Bs parked there. I still miss Northwest Airlines a lot.
I live in the Metro Detroit area and used to travel a ton for work. After a long trip away from home I’d be sitting at a gate ready to head home and I’d see the red,grey and white jet out the window and I knew I’d be home soon, I miss NW airlines!
I was a hardcore NW flier for years and years. Miss them so much. Long live the red tails!
Northwest was the reason my life changed entire directions. I walked into SFO to fly to Denver on United when I was 17, the sliding doors opened and I seen the biggest muscle monster guy in a ramp coveralls. He had new shiny black boots which the coveralls were tucked in. He had sunglasses and perfect hair. I can still to this day remember exactly how he looked.
When I got back from Denver I applied to American, United, Delta and Northwest because I wanted to look just like that guy.
I got hired by United the day I turned 18 and spent 11 years there. They were a very good company and I flew 212,871 miles on my travel benefits.
I flew to Oahu every weekend and went to stay at United’s flight attendant hotel right on Waikiki beach. I went Christmas shopping at Harrods in London on my days off before Christmas. I went to The Hudson’s Bay company in every major Canadian city, took my mom to Italy 8 times, London, Paris, Hong Kong and I flew the Round the World flight twice and got to fly Concorde once. It’s definitely nice to have travel benefits. I enjoyed working there.
My dad flew Northwest Airlines from the 90’s through the merger with delta he has nothing but praise for the airline
Northwest Airlines still could have been flying! I worked in Detroit for 10 years! I was so proud to work there! Delta did them really bad by not keeping any of Northwest alive!
Well!!!!! NORTHWEST did the exact same thing too Republic when they bought them,so in a sense that's what you can call Karma,no offense 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Well!!!! Northwest did the exact same thing too Republic Airlines and didn't keep any of them alive so in a way you can say that it was Karma 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
I’ve worked for NWA/DAL for nearly 45 years and I would say there are definitely elements of NW that live on. Same could be said for elements of republic. Even facilities of Republic and Southern are still in use.
Sadly, a perfect example of a well branded, well advertised brand that still disappeared due to business operations and poor decisions.
Still the N-W- arrow is the best logo in the industry.
Imagine how awesome it would have been to see a Northwest 787?
It would be a very interesting sight to see
Northwest had the only DC 10s I was not nervous to fly.
I flew many Continental DC-10s and never got nervous. Especially liked the DC-10-30s.
When my family immigrated to canada on the early 90s. This is the airline we took from Singapore. To Seattle then to YVR. It was the most exciting trip.
I flew Amsterdam to New Delhi on a Dc-10. It was a pretty good experience and the food was not that bad. I still miss Northwest.
you probably flew on a dc-10-40, with a bulge in the center engine
What year was this?
@@bhushaaa4244 1998 I believe
The continental managers working at Northwest did a beautiful job setting the table for Delta
What CO Managers? Not familiar with that;
Like the fact that it was northwest that told Douglas that they would only buy the DC 10 if they put Pratt an whitney in it so could have the same engines as there 747s and they did not want it called a series 30 but a series 40 make it look like they made a new plane for the market and right after that Japan Airlines said we will buy a bunch of the series 40 also as they had the same engines on all there 747s
Northwest was more solvent than Delta at the time of the merger. Were it not for Northwest's "regional" name, and the desire to break the unions, the Northwest name would have remained.
My husband worked for Northwest from 1990 to the end of 2003. I flew with my family from 1992 until 2001 on countless non rev flights. It was fun while it happened. $10 coach each way and $ 20 for first class each way. What a bargain.
It was $5 and $10, when I worked for North Central/Republic - prior to the NW acquisition...
In 1992, Northwest Airline employees at Boston's airport were involved in stealing credit cards from the mail. And let's not forget Su Taraskiewicz, who was a ramp supervisor at Boston's airport and was relentlessly harassed by her fellow employees. Apparently, higher-ups at Northwest Airlines told her to ignore the harassment. She was later found murdered in the trunk of her car. The case is unsolved to this day.
so what you are saying is Boston sucks?
Great video 👍 Keep it uppp
Cool video! I flew NWA 757s as a kid and give them credit for inflicting me with the flying bug (now a B777 first officer). I didn’t really know much about the airline pre-delta days. Great job!
I love flying my 757-200 NWA in X-plane!
I flew the SEA/MSP Route in the Summer ⛱️🌞 of 1998 in a DC-10! Enjoyed riding on their BAE-146's between TYS and MEM! Long live the Bowling 🎳 Shoe Livery!
I wish they would’ve made a NWA heritage livery that would be cool to see
Same. American does this all the time with the airlines they aquired. Delta literally wanted to kill NWA and its legacy. Is the Delta logo still facing Northwest?
I have to say I am pleasantly and unexpectedly pleased by the results of the Delta/Northwest merger. At the time Delta was known for poor customer service and dirty airplanes while Northwest had excellent customer service and well-maintained aircraft. I was expecting that Delta would bring Northwest down to their level and that the reasons I always favored Northwest on my long distance travel would go away. However that is not at all what happened, it was almost like Northwest had taken over Delta, not the other way around. Today I have a very high opinion of Delta and they are my first choice on most international travel routes and second choice in the US (after Alaska). So while Northwest Airlines may be gone their spirit most definitely lives on!
Most definitely. Northwest really gave Delta that one boost to make them reach the top, so in that sense, you’re right.
I will give you a fairly recent example. In 2018 my family was flying from Seattle to Toronto on Delta Connection + Westjet. Everything was booked but when we arrived at the airport we discovered that my wife and son required a Canadian Electronic Travel Authorization because they were citizens of one of the countries that had to have that (they were US residents). This proved impossible to get by flight time as the website was not designed for tiny phone screens and each took 20+ minutes fill out and additional time to be emailed. I went to the Delta ticket counter and must have looked a little distressed because the supervisor came right over to me. I explained the situation and right away he had an agent re-route us through Minneapolis with a departure 4 hours later than planned. Plus when we boarded our Minneapolis-Toronto leg we found that we had been given exit row seats free of charge! Fantastic customer service there!
Keep doing these
I will
Growing up in Detroit Michigan Northwest Airlines was the dominant carrier there at Detroit Metro Airport. If you ever flew into or out of Detroit you would more than likely flying a Northwest Flight. What I loved about Northwest was the employees. There was just a friendlier warmer experience when flying Northwest. They were conservate and not the most stylish carrier among the competitors Like United Braniff and Trans World, but they were highly reliable. I miss Northwest but I am glad that they became part of Delta. the two carrier synergies seem similar
I was just in Love field yesterday and saw two northwest a319s that have since been repainted into delta. Registrations ended in “NB”
I began to fly onboard Northwest orient airlines. Flew from Anchorage MSP nonstop via the 74’s and the 10’s. Loved the flights and the cabin crew handing out decks of cards and other goodies use kids could keep busy with and collect. I still have 2 decks of cards still wrapped in the plastic unopened from those days. Didn’t know then they would actually become a thing of the past.
I flew on NWA, once, and I loved it.
I miss them.
My Dad was in the military and flew on, as it was known back then as Northwest Orient Airlines. He swore it was the best of the airlines.
Northwest had a large presence in the upper Midwest, and it had a large presence in Asia and Europe. Merging with Delta was the best thing Northwest could have done in such a tight economy in 2008.
I miss Northwest so much 😢 Took many flights on them over the years. Those DC10s were so bad ass.
Rumor has it that this is the only airline Eazy-E flew with.
Kill the background music, it creeps to much into the foreground.
I’ve started doing that with the important parts of the vid
One point of clarification … NW didn’t have turboprops in the 1940s or 1950s- their Douglas and Martin aircraft were all piston powered. Their first turbine aircraft were the early 707s they acquired in 1961.
No, they were actually DC-8 Series 30s, but they retired them in favor of the Boeing 707-320B and 320C.
The airline was destroyed by Al Cecchi and his merry band of corporate thieves. Frank Lorenzo Lite.
That’s the whole story. Anyone near it at the time, knew it was coming.
I flew on Northwest more than any other airline and it was my favorite airline. Last time flying with Northwest was in 2009.
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Great video. Good visuals and narrative. A few clean-up items- the DC-3, DC4 and Martins weren't turboprops. They were propellor driven airplanes powered by piston engines. The Lockheed Electra and FK-27 were turboprops as they were propellor driven engines powered by gas turbines. The former were not. As a recently retired Delta captain, and union worker, I think you missed a big point. The airline nickname for Northwest workers was the Cobra workers- they'd strike at anything. It was Northwest's management failure to work with and identify with their workers that caused the strife. The Delta pilots voted for an over 30% wage cut to save the airline. Management connected with the labor force and the pilots had a "snap-back" provision to boost their wages if and when the company was profitable. Blaming the workforce for a short-sighted management team is a flawed analysis. Cheers
I never had a chance to fly legacy carriers like Pan Am, TWA, Continental Airlines, US Air (later US Airways after acquiring American West) & Northwest Airlines. I did remember news article about Delta airlines & Northwest merger was a success.
I'm an immigrant in the US, first time ever coming into the country, I took NWA, food is actually pretty good back then
Cool history.
Less that 5% of my lifetime flights were on Northwest, mostly out of Detroit. 90% of the mechanical delays were on Northwest. The Northwest-Republic merger was probably one of the worst.
Northwest DID NOT inaugurate New York to Tokyo nonstop in the 60s unless it was an empty plane. The 747SP was the first aircraft capable of flying this route.
What would you do if someone wanted to cut your wages by 21%? Unions exist to protect workers. They are not the bad guy.
I would take the pay cut, keep my job, and work harder for the success of the airline
As I know with Amsterdam hub, Northwest flown from AMS to multiple cities in USA with KLM codeshare
correct!
After NWA Anderson jumped ship and bounced onboard over to Delta. Follow the ball… Continental NWA DELTA then retired on easy street. The employee pay cuts in 93 and 05 were profitable for the top three executives and many others that transferred to Atlanta got hood winked with no position waiting for them. Better yet they accepted a position only to get walking papers within a month, usually after liquidation of their lives MSP.
The imaginary gulf invasion
The 9/11 repercussions
Along with maintenance asking and receiving a $8.00
Increase on hourly wages. That’s a 1/4 increase. An extra weeks pay per month.
In any case we no longer are except ln memories. The NWA museum in Bloomington is chock full of great
memorabilia.
I really loved my aviation career at NWA. I started at the old Braniff hangar doing overhauling freighters.
A flight school before IMO on Sea World.
I’ve been an ESE, custodian, and a wrench, I’m enjoying a pension thanks to the IAM. We sold out to the snake oil salesman AMFA.
I miss the smell of JET FUEL, hangers, cockpits, and the cabins, not the crew buses. Fly jet blue
Man you seem to have seen a lot from Northwest, including their downfall unfolding
No mention of the extensive partnership with Continental Airlines and Alaska Airlines? Or that CO and NW actually were thisclose to merging before DL came in?
Interesting and had that happened. You would have seen CO B737-724s B737-824s MD-80s with NWA A319-114s A320-214s DC-9s although replaced by B717-251s on Interstate 95 New Jersey New Hampshire Connecticut Delaware richmond-petersburg and Maine turnpikes exits 13A-14
If you look at the Poster NWA flights to MNL typically start at Newark,NJ via MSP ANC HND later years EWR DTW NRT MNL other choice was EWR Terminal B MSP NGO MNL. If NW merged with CO Terminal C EWR would have looked like this B737-724 with A319-114s B787-8s with RR Trent NW and Genx former CO towards Manila you would have gotten the same scene with NW B787-8 Trent 1000 via DTW from EWR the other Genx B787-8 EWR via HNL and GUM. The return trip on the latter one is mostly domestic from GUM CBP stamp AGA the latter one clear CBP at DTW which has strict entry requirements. Happened to my father in 2009 when they were about to have their luggage seized in Detroit. Looking at DL management it seems NWA management became more prevalent post-merger or the other way around DL management simply flushing out NWA management. Which would explain why the Asian airlines that NWA helped to found are Better than DL itself. In the case of JL🇯🇵 > AA/AS🇺🇲 regional wise PR🇵🇭
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Do you have the history of Eastern Airlines
I could do that. Although there are quite a few videos on them so I’m not really sure.
Nice hob
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I was a flight attendant for Northwest based in Detroit 1998-2006. Kinda wish I stayed. I'd have a great paycheck and a lot of seniority at Delta. Oh well, I'm happy flying for my little discount carrier. Having a blast actually.
...grew up in Milwaukee and Northwest was the primary major carrier there for years
United (after the merger with Capital) and and Eastern were the other two, United with only a handful of flights and Eastern with only a single "milk run" (served with an L-188) to Atlanta per day. The only other two airlines were regionals, Ozark and North Central (which years later merged with several airlines to become Republic). They were the first to introduce jet service at MKE with the L-188 Electra, followed by their DC-8s (replaced on the Tokyo Route by the 707-320B) and 720Bs. In the years beforehand their other "jumbo", the Boeing 377 stratocruiser was a common sight there as well as the sleek and fast looking DC-7C
Given their major presence in Milwaukee, I became a regular customer since back the regulated era. I always liked them in spite of what some people said. Northwest always put a high value on Milwaukee and even built the city up for a while as a "mini hub" in the 1980s. I remember back in the day travelling on 707s, 720s, later DC-10s and 747s (including a daily flight between Milwaukee and New York JFK). I was also a long time member of their Worldperks programme and enjoyed having a nice "bank" of miles which I'd often use for upgrades to first on longer domestic trips. Always loved the late 60s - 70s livery, particularly on the 747, DC-10, and 757.
Yeah, all the consolidation since deregulation has really limited the choices. though a few like Braniff, Eastern, and Midwest decided it was better just to to call it quits. I do agree that the Republic merger was not hte best idea not just because it overextended the parent airline, but had to absorb the labour force of Republic (which in turn were from the three airlines that merged to create republic, Southern NorthCentral and Hughes AIrwest), and a fleet older aircraft with some (the Convair 580s) dating back to the 1950s. The merger gave Northwest the largest and most diverse in aircraft types (10) and oldest fleets in the air based on average age.
“Freefalling” for an aviation video? Kinda scary.
Northwest was a proud midwestern airline with a rich tradition in aviation and solid financials until Checchi and Wilson sunk their fangs into it and bled the company dry. They left the vendors in the Twin Cities and the hard working Northwest Airlines employees with their mess. They should be in jail along with Doug Steenland (the Rat).
There is a 2006 / 2007 Star Tribune article where the Rat and his former boss then at Delta (Anderson) were doing all possible to wiggle out of paying back the Metropolitan Airport Commission (MAC) at MSP Airport (e.g. State of Minnesota tax payer sourced loan), the 300 million dollars due and payable by moving NWA Corporate HQ out of MN. What does one expect from lawyers with golden parachutes? The Rat said that the state and MAC should understand the spirit of Delta not paying the monies owed to MN. Crooked Checchi told the MN state legislature and governor that without state financial help, all of the tax revenue from Northwest and Northwest employees would be gone from closing the doors.
Bad management! These managers need to “check themselves!”
The DC3, DC4, Martin 202 were piston prop powered airplanes, not turboprop airplanes.
Sorry, hollow sound 🎙️ and the background music is too loud
Yeah. Unfortunately this was the most I could get out of both sounds in the editor that I used to use. If you see my recent Continental video you’ll notice a big change in that
Great info , but the column was very hard to hear?!
Volumn
@@toniacassetta5766 yes I’m aware. Unfortunately the editor I was using at the time had the current volume in this video the max volume.
An embarrassing failure whose money saved Delta Air Lines in the merger. It wasn’t the prettiest end, but it was very profitable, despite some of its internal struggles.
Delta’s mistake was closing NWA hubs. ATL is a disaster to fly through. MEM would be able to handle overflow traffic at ATL.
It’s really not. ATL is the most efficient hub in Delta’s network. It’s a massive operation done well, and it continues to be the gift that keeps giving to Atlanta and Delta. Memphis closed because not only it couldn’t generate revenue in O/D traffic, but its hub really had no reason to exist because Memphis in no way connects to companies efficiently.
@@Atl404sFinest I agree. And they didn't kill all the NWA hubs. They got rid of the ones that didn't make sense at the time, they kept MSP and DTW.
Narita is gone simply because Narita is a bad location (personal experience) and Haneda is now Delta's hub there. Makes WAY more sense. Nobody wants to fly 13 hours and then have another solid hour of ground travel to get to Tokyo. Haneda I am in my hotel within 15-20 mins maximum from the airport, or I can just sleep at a hotel in the airport I am so close to work!
Anchorage is gone, because it's not needed anymore compared to the 70's/80's when it was needed for refuelling.
Amsterdam is still a major hub for the Delta/KLM alliance, and i love it!
So to say it's all gone is blah...
Delta NWA merger really made both better over all.
NWA brought class and cleanliness and care to Delta,
Delta brought operations, and efficiency.
And they both saved each other from demise in a bad economy.
Of the bad that I can say about Delta, is they are focusing too hard on branding as a premium product, without fully delivering on that promise.
Yea, ATL is simple compared to other airports. I’d rather connect there than anywhere.
Hourly Delayed and Last minute cancellations are their special sauce. We used to call it 'North-Worst'.
and some people liked them so much they called them Northbest....
Love NW ✈️
1 of 2 airlines to operate the 747- *400* !?!?! What!?!! Just going to a plane graveyard would show more than 10 liveries on the 747-400
Um, did you not hear me say 1 of 2 US airlines that operated it during the 1990s
NWA was great
RIP-NWA
Oy, did I need a drink a water!!
I did missed the premiere probably it's because I was busy doing something irl. I'm really sorry that I didn't make it at this time.
Ur good bro!
7:19 I call this the worst day of my life. I lost three dear friends on Northwest Airlines Flight 255.
USAF SSGT Karen Englert
USAFR SSGT Charles Englert Sr.
Charles Englert Jr. 14 months old
The 34th and 35th Memorial services are on my channel.
My new book will be dedicated to the Englerts and all the Northwest Flight 255 family.
Very sorry for your loss.
@@Sideshowbob24Thank You! ❤There is a song about the crash and for the first time, it was performed live at the 35th memorial service on my channel.
The pilots were on strike for only a week
The DC-3, DC-4 and Martin 404 were not turboprops
An outsider’s account. Some hits, lots of misses. 😉
Can you elaborate on what I missed?
Martin 202 not introduced until 1947; the DC 4 in '42. There were NO turboprop aircraft in existence in 1939@@Sideshowbob24
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They must comback with a330 and a320
Turbo-prop airplanes?? At 2:08 in the vid, mention of the DC-3, DC-4, and Martin 202... Yeah, not turbine power at all. All of those were powereed by reciprocating piston engines running on AvGas. SMDH
That is just name on a plane. Follow
Al cha ching Is the correct pronunciation
Thank you.
Sad timecode 15:53. The mechanics strike. Some in those pictures became scabs! With that said their were always issues between, labor and management. And, let’s not forget the union solidarity that I experienced. The mechanics strike 444, struggled, and survived.
Yo ngl, I just had this playing in the background while on Discord and had payed absolutely no attention to it at all.
The DC-3, DC-4 and Martin 202 were *NOT* turboprop. This video has quite a number of significant errors...
Yeah I misinterpreted the meaning of turboprops at the time lol
could've done w/out the Tom Petty cover and other music in the background w/the narration.
It just seemed like good background music
@@Sideshowbob24 it's not what you picked, it's in the background which takes away from the narration of the video.
@@jumpingjeffflash9946 Yeah there were some audio issues. The editor I was using couldn't make the narration louder or the bg music quieter. Hence why I got a new editor so I can sound clearer
SENSATIONAL HEADLINE. There is nothing that didn’t also happen to other airlines! It’s called industry consolidation! The NWA/Delta merger resulted in one of the most successful airlines in the world!
North Worst was a strange airline !!
Yes, indeed. First, they suffered from an identity crisis. What was the name of this company anyway... Northwest Airlines, Northwest Orient, Northwest or NWA? Second, their planes were old and they never looked fully painted or clean for that matter. Third, they always had poor management-labor relations. Fouth, some of those Northwest Orient hags were rather, well... bitchy and rather plain-looking. They did have a strong balance sheet for years, though, and a stellar maintenance record.
we don't know...
what don't we know?
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How is it that two near dead airlines can merge & become better? The two culture struggles from Northwest & Delta merger was way worse than the Republican merger. They continued to "borrow" money from their hard working employees whilst still flying aging gas guzzling DC-9s. Maybe the bigger the corporation, the bigger credit line you get from banks and investors. Post Frank Lorenzo Continental Airlines led by Gordon Bethune never had these issues yet faced the same obstacles as every other US airline. Great leadership vs. Poor leadership
I agree. Leadership is a key part of keeping an airline alive. Pan Am's leadership after Juan Trippe retired was a factor in what caused the airline to fall. Going back to Northwest Airlines, it also didn't help the fact that they were operating airplanes from the 1970s in the 2000s (referring to your statement about the gas guzzling DC-9s). But the point that you make Good vs. Poor leadership does resonate with the fact of an airline's survival.
@@Sideshowbob24 I never understand why Northwest never chose to replace those 40 something year old DC9s that they kept with the newer 717s/MD95s like to this day I'll never understand why Northwest decided to keep 40 year old planes instead of buying the newer updated version 717s 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
@@ericjones7769 The reason Northwest kept their DC-9s was because the DC-9 for them at the time they received it from Republic Airlines was a very reliable plane that could fly on domestic routes and they decided to keep them. Of course the older the plane is, the more money it costs to maintain it as well as fuel prices for it.
they were paid for@@ericjones7769
@@Sideshowbob24 but north west was the best in the us for maintaneing planes
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After maintenance took an eight dollar increase with their new contract that was the end I can still see Richard Anderson sitting in the van when the pilots went on strike just smiling and yes, he was a continental guy. He came up here with all his buddies, and took and put northwest to its knees.
Don' t overlook the serious financial damage that Al Checchi and his group of corporate raiders did to Northwest Airlines before Richard Anderson came on the scene.
Now I know how Northwest fell apart. And why family guy makes fun of it lol 😂
Really,family guy made fun of Northwest falling apart 😲😲😲😲😲😲🤣😅
Can u reference an episode?
Delta is a good airline. Northwest was better. Miss those guys.
So I totally understand now Why Delta and Morris merged!!!!! At first i never did quite understand why but now after watching this video i completely understand now!!!!! So in a way Northwest was having similar issues and problems like what Pan Am experienced during the 70s and 80s just not with terrorism but with strikes and other stuff
Morris was bought by Southwest, not Delta.
It wasn’t a merger it was an acquisition. Delta sucks Northwest was the better Airline. You also did not mention how they split the Northwest Cargo separate from the airline. Northwest Cargo generated great revenue for the airline itself. Bad leader ship under Chechi and Wilson. And corporate greed from the suits at the top is what hurt Northwest Airlines. It’s what hurts the railroads and other major companies. It’s always the corporate people at the top that don’t do the work, but only look out for the stockholders never the employees.
Yes I am aware that I forgot to not mention Northwest Cargo. Might make that into a separate shorter video.
There is also this regarding the top suits. The only way to break union contracts, eliminate pensions, and commence lower wages and reduced benefits for all but themselves is bankruptcy. The completely non-airline-business suits have done all possible to ensure that. Yet one more thing to thank Jimmy C. for. After that, Stephen Wolf can be thanked for recommending the merger with NWA. What he should have done is counter with buying out Rothmeyer's NorthLate Airlines. The third one to thank is Rothmeyer's decision to endorse employees between the two companies having totally different starting employee identification digits. Nothing like pushing zero teamwork, right Rothmeyer? Plus, the executives hacks also continued Nyrop's reward system, where a one day non mechanic employee will be in the non-rev seat, instead of the mechanic with 50+ years seniority. More non team building!!!
You’re telling me they used dc-8s and 707s from New York to Asia??????? I
yes?
@@Sideshowbob24 I’m sorry. I was just confused because that seems pretty insane. I had no idea they had the range to do that long of a flight
@@owenklein1917The distance between New York and Tokyo is 5,981 nm, Both the 707 and DC-8's range well exceeded that
@@Sideshowbob24The flights were not usually non-stop.
Yeah...NW was class act, but biggest crash not totally their fault. Pilots dufased up flaps, had it nearly back in control, when attacked by illegal Avis lightpole on airport grounds. Politics allowed permit issuers, inspectors, elected Officials, & of course Avis escape, while NW held the bag!! Mid 90's had deal over G.R. Mich where best pilot in world boinked for 3 yrs before cleared name & made whole, but overall employee trust in airline had already flown the coupe!! Deal over G.R. happened as on trip to Lansing for MDOT, pickup was racked by severe downdraft, but when got control there was NW Liner stationary on approach w/150 knot headwind about to become 150 knot tailwind when hit that windshear! W/zero lift, it woulda been, "Good night & adieux my hot Spanish Ladies", as flat plummet into ground unsurvivable, but behind Door #2, Capt had insane Highway Worker on I-96 in Orange Pickup! My own hot section tweaked as truck picked up & slammed back down on pavement, then was accelerated to 85MPH, spied Liner, ID'd world of hurt, no traffic on I-96, lights & beacons on, shot up thru side window, pointing finger way up towards Capt, while slalomed the 40' across lanes & shoulders to get Capt's attn! When saw huge plume of exhaust from Liner's butt, & wheels comin' up, I ducked back into cab, watched Liner hit downdraft plummeting straight down in flat plummet into woods, but then slowly re-emerged above treeline, although looked like bird flappin' wings!! Still headed for Lansing, I turned off lights, looked around for POlice, but none the wiser, so resumed trip. Halfway there, this wierd lookin' NW Liner overflew me, did a slow U-Turn, & back it came at freeway level gently waggling wings, & when passed, this crazy Capt waving piece of paper on side window sayin' "Thanks", so I flipped on beacon for, "No Problem"! Fast fwd to Nov 1996, Mom & Dad on way to winter home in FLA, but Dad had heart attack in Hamilton Indiana. Missus & I broke, but somehow drove down there from Cadillac MI. 3 days later, Dad pretty much recovered, so Missus drove van home w/loan from Mom for gas, I drove folks down to Tampa, Mom gave me plenty of money for airline ticket home, so dropped myself off to TPA, Mom drove across Bay, and they were 2nd homed!! It was week before Thanksgiving, so airlines had just tripled airfares. I was ski-rooed as short, but nice SWA Ticket Agent somehow got Love from airline ok'ing reduced fare of all I had minus $7 for Pilot's Lounge burger, tax, & tip!! Wow, what could go wrong now!! Ashamed, in tattered work clothes, I got seat back of lounge, ordered, & 4 pilots landed on last table available, & right across from me. Dang, then I really felt underdressed!! They were pair of NWA Pilots, & pair of SWA Pilots. Older NWA Pilot was holding Windshear Danger training for SWA Pair at request of NWA 1st Ofcr friends of all! NWA Capt thought he was back in G.R. Mich, splained background, but could not remember order of, nor even his emergency actions that saved the Liner. Disguised as bum, I said, "You went full gas/flaps, gear up, nose down, then flat plummet straight down disappearing into woods, Capt!" It must have been sore subject for him, as upon glance up, Capt was already vaulting table, & grabbed me by neck growling, "And just how in the hell would you know that"?? I gasped, "I was that ahole Hwy Wkr you just mentioned, I have MDOT ID"! Capt glanced a bit at ID, then asked if would like to sit with them. I declined, as had no food for 3 days, & burger just arriving. Capt shouted, "You look like a T'Bone Man to me, Waitress will give burger to someone that needs it", as jammed me into one of their chairs. I guess I had changed tables, as 2 parties already arguing over original in The Lounge!! Well anyways, chance meetings with this Captain are quite exciting!! I scribed all of above etc onto Capt's extra dinner napkin, & 1st thing Monday AM, he had it to NTSB Administration Building, Washington D.C. Director grabbed it, checked it all out, everything legit, so proceeded to make everything right!! NWS at G.R. Airport given 1st available Doppler Radar, Capt made whole, and Investigators got brand new definition for, "Physically Impossible"!! Sorry to bore Y'all, but that's what really happened!!! Overall, NWA class outfit, just in wrong spot at wrong time!!!
Northwest failed to develop proper domestic hubs in the more populous and prosperous parts of the country. Their longest domestic flight pre-merger was Detroit to/from Los Angeles. The alliance with KLM and strong routes to the far east and Canada masked this problem. But their complete lack of the very lucrative transcontinental business meant that substantially all of the nation's most profitable fliers had status with other airlines. That is what ultimately sealed their fate.