You can technically use the clear Linux kernel with arch and then use gnome with all the fancy animations disabled, it will make is just as snappy and probably not far in performance. Cachy OS has lto custom kernels that perform close. Then again what I mentioned is still not that user friendly lol
@@husanaaulia4717 well technically it should be something that you can replicate on every distro, I don't know how complex are those customisation by Intel to "port" but it must be doable. I'll give clear Linux another try, as I tried another distribution on a new Intel pc, and it's not stable at all! (The pc is a Lenovo Yoga Pro 7i)
Clear Linux is very clearly (pun not intended) aimed at Cloud, Server and Edge Computing. Desktop use is an afterthought, even Workstation operation probably only intended for Developers creating those Cloud Environments. Their website highlights Stateless Operation, cloud control and the R-basic package. It's intended to be configured once, then deployed to a thousand machines at the same time while giving the highest performance per expensive Server CPU possible. For a more suitable Desktop use alternative CachyOS essentially does some of the same tweaks to the base Arch Linux and comes with a GUI installer. Still not a good first entry into Linux (Arch is still Arch) but with a broader scope than Clear Linux.
So many distros choices. Considering the optimizations mentioned, wondering if Clear would be a best choice for "just browser watching media", desktop not important, on a Satellite L50-A, with i5-3337U/Nividia 740M?
@@westaus666 From what I've seen, Clear Linux is more about utilizing recent improvements (stuff like newer x86-64-vN baselines) and stuff like optimized libraries for your databases. That would mostly apply to servers, and newer ones (last 5 ish years) at that. For running on an older Laptop a lightweight DE is far more important than any potential system package optimizations. A window manager like i3 or stuff like Xfce, Lxqt, maybe Mate if you want something newer. Or a very slimmed down KDE desktop... That's where the performance (and memory) savings are for everyday use. There are of course some heavier and some lighter weight distros, but for that distrowatch is probably your friend. I don't really have experience with explicitly lightweight distros for desktop use.
I'd love to see you check out Adélie Linux, for the novelty. It's optimized to run on modern and really old hardware, and the name comes from a species of penguin named after a French explorer's wife!
Thanks for this review! As someone who's been on Clear Linux for about an year and a half now this review is very spot on. The McLaren of distros is very apt. Goes very fast but the seats have no padding. There are ways to make it more comfortable (KDE, kernel w/ BORE scheduler, etc) but you'll need to know your way around the distro.
I didn't saw until now a Clear Linux review. This is neat! Here I am still waiting for A1RM4X to try Gentoo. Maybe even with a TWM on top. I meaaan, after seeing him struggle so much with Debian, then seeing this, ... Gentoo shouldn't be that much different or scary, right ? Too bad that just having a quick hours to several days long look at Gentoo rarely does it justice, as it is a bit of a learning curve. But I'd say it's worth it. Stable AND cutting edge. Almost maximum customizability, arguably the best of all mainstream / somewhat known distros (LFS a notable exception, if you can call that a distro). And you DO learn more about your system while using it. For most that is more of a negative.
As someone who speaks English as a primary language, and knowledgeable though not fluent in German and Japanese, the guy's English is prefectly comprehensible to me. Funny how people with nothng to add always snark about someone's second or third language abilities...
@@boots7859 french people are too egocentrical and down looking and rarely comprehend, that they pronounciation is making it still french. mf said LEENÜXC like he's getting paid for it
Maybe some motivated people will one day make a another distro based on clear linux that will be more user friendly...
You can technically use the clear Linux kernel with arch and then use gnome with all the fancy animations disabled, it will make is just as snappy and probably not far in performance. Cachy OS has lto custom kernels that perform close. Then again what I mentioned is still not that user friendly lol
How is it not "user friendly"? It works perfectly fine if you're willing to learn how to use it.
@@stringbreaker87 it's not just kernel, their software if mostly compiled with custom flags and patch
@@husanaaulia4717 well technically it should be something that you can replicate on every distro, I don't know how complex are those customisation by Intel to "port" but it must be doable.
I'll give clear Linux another try, as I tried another distribution on a new Intel pc, and it's not stable at all!
(The pc is a Lenovo Yoga Pro 7i)
@@Fred_Klingon I think it's doable if we can make similar tool to load up their config. That way we don't rely on their bundler
Clear Linux is very clearly (pun not intended) aimed at Cloud, Server and Edge Computing. Desktop use is an afterthought, even Workstation operation probably only intended for Developers creating those Cloud Environments. Their website highlights Stateless Operation, cloud control and the R-basic package. It's intended to be configured once, then deployed to a thousand machines at the same time while giving the highest performance per expensive Server CPU possible. For a more suitable Desktop use alternative CachyOS essentially does some of the same tweaks to the base Arch Linux and comes with a GUI installer. Still not a good first entry into Linux (Arch is still Arch) but with a broader scope than Clear Linux.
You should ideally try 4 kernels, 4 custom ones, tkg, cachyos default , cachyos lts and clear kernel
So many distros choices. Considering the optimizations mentioned, wondering if Clear would be a best choice for "just browser watching media", desktop not important, on a Satellite L50-A, with i5-3337U/Nividia 740M?
@@westaus666 From what I've seen, Clear Linux is more about utilizing recent improvements (stuff like newer x86-64-vN baselines) and stuff like optimized libraries for your databases. That would mostly apply to servers, and newer ones (last 5 ish years) at that.
For running on an older Laptop a lightweight DE is far more important than any potential system package optimizations.
A window manager like i3 or stuff like Xfce, Lxqt, maybe Mate if you want something newer. Or a very slimmed down KDE desktop... That's where the performance (and memory) savings are for everyday use.
There are of course some heavier and some lighter weight distros, but for that distrowatch is probably your friend. I don't really have experience with explicitly lightweight distros for desktop use.
I'd love to see you check out Adélie Linux, for the novelty. It's optimized to run on modern and really old hardware, and the name comes from a species of penguin named after a French explorer's wife!
Merci pour la découverte et les détails !
Thanks for this review! As someone who's been on Clear Linux for about an year and a half now this review is very spot on. The McLaren of distros is very apt. Goes very fast but the seats have no padding.
There are ways to make it more comfortable (KDE, kernel w/ BORE scheduler, etc) but you'll need to know your way around the distro.
I didn't saw until now a Clear Linux review. This is neat!
Here I am still waiting for A1RM4X to try Gentoo. Maybe even with a TWM on top.
I meaaan, after seeing him struggle so much with Debian, then seeing this, ... Gentoo shouldn't be that much different or scary, right ? Too bad that just having a quick hours to several days long look at Gentoo rarely does it justice, as it is a bit of a learning curve. But I'd say it's worth it. Stable AND cutting edge. Almost maximum customizability, arguably the best of all mainstream / somewhat known distros (LFS a notable exception, if you can call that a distro). And you DO learn more about your system while using it. For most that is more of a negative.
if cachyos starts to fail me then am gonna use clear linux
I wish Intel would compile the distro with Intel's compiler.
Usability has been the same for years, don't expect it to change anytime soon.
W vid man. Bonne Merde
A comparison between Nix os and Clear Linux
if you would treat english like open source you would probably start speaking it
There is always a fork
@@yohaneschristianp Yes, it's fork is American
As someone who speaks English as a primary language, and knowledgeable though not fluent in German and Japanese, the guy's English is prefectly comprehensible to me. Funny how people with nothng to add always snark about someone's second or third language abilities...
@@boots7859 french people are too egocentrical and down looking and rarely comprehend, that they pronounciation is making it still french.
mf said LEENÜXC like he's getting paid for it
You sound like a Windows user, crying about Clear Linux working differently than other distros.