Comparing the Watt/Puppy to Sasha V would be more interesting as they have the same drivers, and the Sasha is a result of improving the original Watt/Puppy over generations. Also the cost is closer to each other and one is not 2x the other. Is it possible such a comparison would convert potential Sasha buyers into Watt/Puppy buyers? A local dealer had a Wilson rep and an event around the Watt/Puppy last week and they do sound very good.
„… is a result of improving the original over generations.“ Well, if we really would compare a W/P from about 20 to 25 years ago you‘d be stunned how little improvement in regard of sonic quality really have happened! I know that the wheel has to keep on spinning and revenue has to be made…but THERE ARE NO REAL IMPROVEMENTS MADE IN SPEAKER DESIGN SINCE DECADES! If one likes it or not. We’re NOT talking digital revolution, the internet or AI here. But people more often than not tend to believe what the brochures and the marketing speach tells them. Because „newer is always better“, right? 😉. Another point is: even Wilson says that a bigger volume speaker has more lifelike authority than a small box. Therefore the Sasha actually HAS to be better in this regard…
@@mitchp-f9v why shouldn’t I have realized that?! Of course I have! Btw: in my comment wasn’t a word about the Sabrina… something for you to consider! Thx
This is an excellent video with its variety of comments on multiple aspects the speakers and their contrasts. Especially good was the "Friend of Audio Excellence" feature, harkening back to the gentleman who talked about his MSB purchases in one of your previous videos. It encourages us to know that HiFi can be enjoyed without being a snob or uber wealthy. The joy of music is accessible through all its evolutions. The images that are edited in are also great. I may only aspire to a Wilson speaker, but learning about them and how to listen to sound enables me to enjoy my Sonus faber speakers and the music I hear with them all the more. Provoke polka people at your peril!
Sabrina X with loké vs the watt puppy would be interesting. Close the price gap while still keeping the Sabrina X and sub at a lower price point. Definitely a combo worth considering.
When Wilson stamps the name Watt/Puppy for the 50th anniversary it better be great because it is what made their speakers "iconic". Paul gave a clear distinction between the speakers and also a straightforward comments about how he heard the speakers based on the music he was familiar with. He should be a regular guest on future reviews.
Every word spoken here is so accurate to what I experienced. I spent an hour experiencing the Watt/Puppy for the first time and I absolutely love them! I listened to Marian Hill - Down and the speaker was so articulate with vocal. Once the bass kicked in I had a new appreciation for how quality bass should be experienced. I love the Watt/Puppy and Wilson created an awesome speaker!
I have the WP7's that I bought new in 2003 that replaced B&W 801 Matrix. I have never regretted that decision and when considering, possibly, a new speaker system, I audition those speakers and have yet to listen to anything that blows the 7's away or makes me feel like I don't have enough speaker. I paid $22,500 then so now that the price has almost doubled, will I get twice the performance and pleasure? Just saying. Let's keep it real, most of us worked for a living and $40K is a lot money. I will just "suffer" and continue to enjoy the power and detail the 7's bring and keep close to $20K in my pocket. Used Wilson's are better than most other brands IMO so keep that option open.
I went to audio excellence to listen to sabrinas and buy them. Auditioned them for about an hour with Lewis snd Adrian. Mac c55 with dag progression amp. Loved the sabrina’s. while discussing pricing i said that i had heard that they released a new watt puppy. Adrian said that they just received a pair, hooked it up to the same system. After listening to my music for 45 seconds i stood up from my chair and said, these are the speakers i am getting. They are that good. WP is in a class above the SabrinaX
Very impressive review of the Anniversary edition Watt/Puppy! It’s interesting how many reviewers considered the Sabrina X to be very close to the Sasha’s. Now, they sound like they are from a different manufacturer? Wow… I enjoyed the review and looking forward to Part 2!
Great review guys!!! I have been considering the Sabrina X’s but after listening to your review I’m going to check out the Watt Puppies. Adrian, you mentioned you used the 462 and C2800 with the watt puppies. I’m curious about your thoughts with the McIntosh driving them since this is the setup that I have been evaluating the Sabrina’s on. Love the combo with Sabrina’s but would love your thoughts on them driving watt puppies. Thanks
Paul has wonderful musical selections. That’s what’s wonderful about this lifestyle. It’s not your cup of tea, but many of his choice are 100% my flavor.
Thank you for discussing music 🎶 that is relevant to many non audiophiles but who love gear. It’s fantastic to hear that the music I love sounds amazing with these speakers…
Adrian….. YES is awesome!!! Rush is Awesome!!! Prog is great music when it’s great music!!! Sometimes it’s not, but appreciate it when it is! Listen to “Fragile” beginning to end!
Great review and appreciate the various descriptions. I own Sabrina X, have been considering an upgrade to V’s but the $$ are substantial. Excited to audition Anniversary WP’s. Looking forward to hearing the Pt. 2 review. Really appreciate your channel! Thx
This illustrates the difference between the audiophile analyzing the sound performance and the one who tells what he feels and experience with his soul connected to the music ( Watt Puppies ).........I got away from analyzing audio performance only to enjoy when a system connects you to music ....two worlds that separate musical reproduction , one is capable to let you forget the word reproducing ..........the marketing is stearing the high end market essentialy into one direction for many to follow.... thank you for the upload, interesting as
Please compare it against an Sasha V. Thing is that shere cabinet size always helped the sound of the Wilsons. The Sound of WP 5 to 6 was literally boosted by the bigger cabinet. I will be very interested to compare the 2 in a setting of my dealer.
Adrian - Request: Since you listen to classical piano music would you comment on how the speakers do with classical piano music. 99% of my listening is to classical piano music. The sound of the Bosendorfer, Bechstein, Steinway, Kawai and Fazioli is where most speakers fail. Thank you. Great video.
Ironic that you should ask as I did most of my listening with classical music. Absolutely brilliant. Listened to many of my favorites, Martha Argerich, Lang Lang, Barenboim, Ashkenazy… as long as the music was magical, so was the musical connection
I would like very much Paul to listen to the Watt/Puppy with his Luxman!! (Sorry Adrian, I am a Luxman fan and owner.) First time I listen to the Watt/Puppy was in 1998. I still recall the emotion I had. I should drive 8 hours to hear the new generation and experience new emotions.
Hi Adrian. Paul is a great guest addition. My question, and maybe this could be addressed in Part Two, is when I hear a speaker is very detailed and such, I associate that with fatiguing over longer listening periods. While when playing great recordings I'm sure this is very entrancing, when playing the many less than great sounding recordings we all still love, is the Sabrina X the more enjoyable listen over the long haul with its warmer, more forgiving tone in contrast to the WATT/Puppy? I always appreciate when reviewers address how a higher end speaker handles less than stellar recordings. I don't want a speaker that just sounds great on audiophile grade recordings but makes lesser recordings somewhat unenjoyable. Would love to see you and the group tackle this in Part Two. Thanks again for all the great content you provide.
Looks like we need to have a Serafino/Amati v Puppy/Watt, Mike said it was like comparing SF v Wilson in the vid, I’m guessing he likes the Wilson sound better
You're correct. I do prefer the Wilson Audio sound over Sonus Fabers. That being said there's numerous SF i absolutely love (the Olympica line, the Serafino, & Amati all kick ass)
@adrian thanks for the honorable mention! 😂 Paul’s watch is an easier guess; I will go with MB&F Legacy Machine 101 with white subdial and blue main dial. This watch is distinctive given its off centered approach of the time and center feature is its winding spring. So I will go with that guess. Fingers crossed that I’m in the ballpark for that guess. For you, this is the part that I had talked about the curved vs flat cases. Yours look to be a flat case, so I am leaning towards a Jaeger LeCoultre Reverso, bracelet obviously. The watch case has what seemed to be the horizontal ridges, and again if my limited traveled vision does not fail me, I think that’s a pretty distinctive JLC case design. As for which Reverso model it may be…well, sky’s the limit! 😂 Lewis/Louis has on an Apple Watch (5th generation, space black aluminum finish, GPS only, no LTE) 😂 I’m kidding. And Mike was not wearing a watch 😉 Happy weekend all!
@@adrianlow2114 so did I get Paul's watch make and model right? and also, I thought I had modified my original post to mention my name, but I guess it did not save correctly. My name is Bill. And you do have quite the collection, Adrian!
@@woody168 Yes you got his watch absolutely right. Like I said, you're amazing. A watch savant! I thought for sure you wouldn't get the Seiko right. And thanks!
Nothing to do with the cool Wilson comparison... but in the show notes on videos it might be a good idea to include the name/songs used for gear reviews, it's a great way to explore great sounding songs viewers may not yet know.
Doesn’t the „not an audiophile“-guy praise exactly the audiophile qualities of the W/P ??! Wondering if the new W/P still „holds the music together“ and not overly highlight the blings and pops of instruments more …and for that reason at first people are stunned but might not be able to listening to it for more than one hour before getting kind of nerved and exhausted…(?).
Talking/reviewing these the speakers without showing the details of the equipment, e.g. no. of drivers, type and size of drivers, heights of speakers, etc. This review is just a talk feast.
What are you, a store, a magazine or what ? Do you realize these things are simply not affordable for most of us, except for kookoos who own many Ferrari cars. It is rare that 4 oldies sit and talk about speaker a or b, except to make a television show sale marketing.
Thanks you, Adrian and Audio Excellent's staffs. I've been waiting for this review. 😊
Glad you enjoyed it
Comparing the Watt/Puppy to Sasha V would be more interesting as they have the same drivers, and the Sasha is a result of improving the original Watt/Puppy over generations. Also the cost is closer to each other and one is not 2x the other. Is it possible such a comparison would convert potential Sasha buyers into Watt/Puppy buyers? A local dealer had a Wilson rep and an event around the Watt/Puppy last week and they do sound very good.
„… is a result of improving the original over generations.“ Well, if we really would compare a W/P from about 20 to 25 years ago you‘d be stunned how little improvement in regard of sonic quality really have happened! I know that the wheel has to keep on spinning and revenue has to be made…but THERE ARE NO REAL IMPROVEMENTS MADE IN SPEAKER DESIGN SINCE DECADES! If one likes it or not.
We’re NOT talking digital revolution, the internet or AI here.
But people more often than not tend to believe what the brochures and the marketing speach tells them.
Because „newer is always better“, right? 😉.
Another point is: even Wilson says that a bigger volume speaker has more lifelike authority than a small box.
Therefore the Sasha actually HAS to be better in this regard…
@@mitchp-f9v why shouldn’t I have realized that?! Of course I have! Btw: in my comment wasn’t a word about the Sabrina… something for you to consider! Thx
This is an excellent video with its variety of comments on multiple aspects the speakers and their contrasts. Especially good was the "Friend of Audio Excellence" feature, harkening back to the gentleman who talked about his MSB purchases in one of your previous videos. It encourages us to know that HiFi can be enjoyed without being a snob or uber wealthy. The joy of music is accessible through all its evolutions. The images that are edited in are also great. I may only aspire to a Wilson speaker, but learning about them and how to listen to sound enables me to enjoy my Sonus faber speakers and the music I hear with them all the more. Provoke polka people at your peril!
lol. I’ll happily donate all my polka albums to you
We need Vilip back on this channel
This!!!
Absolutely. This lost any edge. All politically correct...
Sabrina X with loké vs the watt puppy would be interesting. Close the price gap while still keeping the Sabrina X and sub at a lower price point. Definitely a combo worth considering.
When Wilson stamps the name Watt/Puppy for the 50th anniversary it better be great because it is what made their speakers "iconic". Paul gave a clear distinction between the speakers and also a straightforward comments about how he heard the speakers based on the music he was familiar with. He should be a regular guest on future reviews.
Yes Paul is terrific
Every word spoken here is so accurate to what I experienced. I spent an hour experiencing the Watt/Puppy for the first time and I absolutely love them! I listened to Marian Hill - Down and the speaker was so articulate with vocal. Once the bass kicked in I had a new appreciation for how quality bass should be experienced. I love the Watt/Puppy and Wilson created an awesome speaker!
I have the WP7's that I bought new in 2003 that replaced B&W 801 Matrix. I have never regretted that decision and when considering, possibly, a new speaker system, I audition those speakers and have yet to listen to anything that blows the 7's away or makes me feel like I don't have enough speaker. I paid $22,500 then so now that the price has almost doubled, will I get twice the performance and pleasure? Just saying. Let's keep it real, most of us worked for a living and $40K is a lot money. I will just "suffer" and continue to enjoy the power and detail the 7's bring and keep close to $20K in my pocket. Used Wilson's are better than most other brands IMO so keep that option open.
John, just curious, what are you driving WP7's with? I am considering either the Sabrina x or the new Watt Puppies. Thanks
Paul is a really great guy, please invite him more often! Maybe eventually you'll even cure him from Luxman..
Luxman owners don’t need a cure. You must mistake the brand with McIntosh 🥳
lol. We can hope
I went to audio excellence to listen to sabrinas and buy them. Auditioned them for about an hour with Lewis snd Adrian. Mac c55 with dag progression amp. Loved the sabrina’s. while discussing pricing i said that i had heard that they released a new watt puppy.
Adrian said that they just received a pair, hooked it up to the same system. After listening to my music for 45 seconds i stood up from my chair and said, these are the speakers i am getting. They are that good.
WP is in a class above the SabrinaX
Very impressive review of the Anniversary edition Watt/Puppy! It’s interesting how many reviewers considered the Sabrina X to be very close to the Sasha’s. Now, they sound like they are from a different manufacturer? Wow… I enjoyed the review and looking forward to Part 2!
Great review guys!!! I have been considering the Sabrina X’s but after listening to your review I’m going to check out the Watt Puppies. Adrian, you mentioned you used the 462 and C2800 with the watt puppies. I’m curious about your thoughts with the McIntosh driving them since this is the setup that I have been evaluating the Sabrina’s on. Love the combo with Sabrina’s but would love your thoughts on them driving watt puppies. Thanks
I have the Mc combination (c1100+mc611) with Sabrina X and it is awsome ! There is a soul in it …
@@AudioFan-ow4nzLove it!! Thank you for your thoughts. I am nearing a decision in the next couple weeks. Thanks again.
@@AudioFan-ow4nz Wow! Thank you for your comment!
All of your enthusiasm comes through! Not a Paul's music choice fan, but what a great guest! Bring him back please!
❤
Paul has wonderful musical selections. That’s what’s wonderful about this lifestyle. It’s not your cup of tea, but many of his choice are 100% my flavor.
Thank you for discussing music 🎶 that is relevant to many non audiophiles but who love gear. It’s fantastic to hear that the music I love sounds amazing with these speakers…
Nice to see Lewis again !
Adrian….. YES is awesome!!! Rush is Awesome!!! Prog is great music when it’s great music!!! Sometimes it’s not, but appreciate it when it is! Listen to “Fragile” beginning to end!
Paul’s audition went very well, I would definitely hire him. Great video, these are fun 👍
Thanks
Great review and appreciate the various descriptions. I own Sabrina X, have been considering an upgrade to V’s but the $$ are substantial. Excited to audition Anniversary WP’s. Looking forward to hearing the Pt. 2 review. Really appreciate your channel! Thx
Thanks for the support
This illustrates the difference between the audiophile analyzing the sound performance and the one who tells what he feels and experience with his soul connected to the music ( Watt Puppies ).........I got away from analyzing audio performance only to enjoy when a system connects you to music ....two worlds that separate musical reproduction , one is capable to let you forget the word reproducing ..........the marketing is stearing the high end market essentialy into one direction for many to follow....
thank you for the upload, interesting as
I have a question. Adrian looks jacked, is it from lifting heavy amplifiers all day or does he lift?
Please compare it against an Sasha V. Thing is that shere cabinet size always helped the sound of the Wilsons. The Sound of WP 5 to 6 was literally boosted by the bigger cabinet.
I will be very interested to compare the 2 in a setting of my dealer.
Next
Adrian - Request: Since you listen to classical piano music would you comment on how the speakers do with classical piano music. 99% of my listening is to classical piano music. The sound of the Bosendorfer, Bechstein, Steinway, Kawai and Fazioli is where most speakers fail. Thank you. Great video.
Ironic that you should ask as I did most of my listening with classical music. Absolutely brilliant. Listened to many of my favorites, Martha Argerich, Lang Lang, Barenboim, Ashkenazy… as long as the music was magical, so was the musical connection
I when a used Sabrina X about 15 min from me. What is the original USD MSRP and what do most people consider a good used price?
how many db's does it take to pressurize the room?
What color are the watt/puppy?
Paul is really good, I like his style. Keep him on rotation.
Very entertaining
👍
Great interview, I have watt puppy that I bought from Adrian and I love them. I’m very curious about the new watt puppy for sure.
Hi !
I would like very much Paul to listen to the Watt/Puppy with his Luxman!! (Sorry Adrian, I am a Luxman fan and owner.) First time I listen to the Watt/Puppy was in 1998. I still recall the emotion I had. I should drive 8 hours to hear the new generation and experience new emotions.
I know you know that I am just kidding re Luxman.
@@adrianlow2114 I know and it's funny!!
Hi Adrian. Paul is a great guest addition. My question, and maybe this could be addressed in Part Two, is when I hear a speaker is very detailed and such, I associate that with fatiguing over longer listening periods. While when playing great recordings I'm sure this is very entrancing, when playing the many less than great sounding recordings we all still love, is the Sabrina X the more enjoyable listen over the long haul with its warmer, more forgiving tone in contrast to the WATT/Puppy? I always appreciate when reviewers address how a higher end speaker handles less than stellar recordings. I don't want a speaker that just sounds great on audiophile grade recordings but makes lesser recordings somewhat unenjoyable. Would love to see you and the group tackle this in Part Two. Thanks again for all the great content you provide.
Definitely not fatiguing unless the recording is hyped up at the top. Thanks
Looks like we need to have a Serafino/Amati v Puppy/Watt, Mike said it was like comparing SF v Wilson in the vid, I’m guessing he likes the Wilson sound better
You're correct. I do prefer the Wilson Audio sound over Sonus Fabers. That being said there's numerous SF i absolutely love (the Olympica line, the Serafino, & Amati all kick ass)
Take Five was written by Paul Desmond not Brubeck
@adrian thanks for the honorable mention! 😂
Paul’s watch is an easier guess; I will go with MB&F Legacy Machine 101 with white subdial and blue main dial. This watch is distinctive given its off centered approach of the time and center feature is its winding spring. So I will go with that guess. Fingers crossed that I’m in the ballpark for that guess.
For you, this is the part that I had talked about the curved vs flat cases. Yours look to be a flat case, so I am leaning towards a Jaeger LeCoultre Reverso, bracelet obviously. The watch case has what seemed to be the horizontal ridges, and again if my limited traveled vision does not fail me, I think that’s a pretty distinctive JLC case design. As for which Reverso model it may be…well, sky’s the limit! 😂
Lewis/Louis has on an Apple Watch (5th generation, space black aluminum finish, GPS only, no LTE) 😂 I’m kidding.
And Mike was not wearing a watch 😉
Happy weekend all!
As always, simply amazing. Mine was the reverso dual time. Paul is a crazy watch aficionado like you. I loved his watch and his grand seiko. Stunning
@@adrianlow2114 so did I get Paul's watch make and model right? and also, I thought I had modified my original post to mention my name, but I guess it did not save correctly. My name is Bill.
And you do have quite the collection, Adrian!
@@woody168 Yes you got his watch absolutely right. Like I said, you're amazing. A watch savant! I thought for sure you wouldn't get the Seiko right. And thanks!
Great show boys😊 keep ‘em coming💫
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It seems that I will not try to listen those if I want to continue to like my own system😮
I really look forward to the Sasha V vs Watt puppy part 2 😎
Its right around the corner.
Nothing to do with the cool Wilson comparison... but in the show notes on videos it might be a good idea to include the name/songs used for gear reviews, it's a great way to explore great sounding songs viewers may not yet know.
Hi Paul. Good idea.. do you want to join us for future reviews
@@adrianlow2114 Sure but that Paul was a great guest, lots of energy and good commentary!
Enjoyed this. Thanks!
Our pleasure
Great comparative review !!!
Thx!
Speaker during life, coffin during death.
Doesn’t the „not an audiophile“-guy praise exactly the audiophile qualities of the W/P ??! Wondering if the new W/P still „holds the music together“ and not overly highlight the blings and pops of instruments more …and for that reason at first people are stunned but might not be able to listening to it for more than one hour before getting kind of nerved and exhausted…(?).
Definitely speakers for both parties
Talking/reviewing these the speakers without showing the details of the equipment, e.g. no. of drivers, type and size of drivers, heights of speakers, etc. This review is just a talk feast.
MB&F Legacy Machine is his watch
Right on
Paul is an absolute natural, please have him as a regular if possible.
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How you guys gonna make me not like my Sabrinas
Wait til you hear them lol
@@adrianlow2114 Now I don't want to...and I do, DAMMIT ADRIAN!
@@enniol8043 lol
What are you, a store, a magazine or what ? Do you realize these things are simply not affordable for most of us, except for kookoos who own many Ferrari cars.
It is rare that 4 oldies sit and talk about speaker a or b, except to make
a television show sale marketing.
wilson speakers look ugly in my opinion
Ugly looks Wilson in speaker's opinion, so keep that in mind as well.
Overpriced junk looks like it was made in someone’s basement. I heard it with the boomy bass.