ACC | This First Lap is Chaos! LFM Rookies GT3 @ Snetterton // Assetto Corsa Competizione
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- First of all, a huge thank you to all of you who lifted my spirits with such positive messages after my last ACC video. As you could probably tell, I was feeling pretty deflated after that LFM race and wasn’t sure I wanted to do any more. But I’ve had so many supportive comments from Low Fuel Motorsport sim racers, that it’s really restored my faith in this sim.
So with that in mind, I’m back to start a new quest… to escape the LFM rookies division! I need to do 10 races, and have a safety rating of 4.0. I’m still way off the pace, so this race is all about staying out of trouble…
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Thank you all so much for your help and advice following this race. I put them into practice this week, and it's made a real difference. If you want to see the progress I've made, you can watch this week's Barcelona race here: ruclips.net/video/CxTuRJK5AeU/видео.html
This is essential viewing for sim racers. Your enthusiasm is infectious and as a new player i envy your slow lap time of 1:51.
Ahh thanks man. I’m sure you’ll be at those lap times before too long. Still amazed by how the fast guys can find an extra 4-5 seconds!
Idk if you’re doing an impression but this is spot on to F1 commentary
Thanks for sharing. I began myself last week with LFM. License was easy, but then comes the rookie races.
Oulton park was a disaster . I qualified on the middle of the pack. You can do anything, you will be sent out of the track.
4 dives bombs on me during the race. I repaired the car, but it is not fun a all.
Yesterday, we had a very pleasant race until the last lap at zolder.
A guy in front of us got out of the track. I reduced my speed in order to avoid him, and immediately a guy behind me thought it was a nice opportunity to overtake me .
We had a contact , we all wnt off the track, then come back in the middle of the track, and then it all finished in a big mess.
I really don't like that a all. First my race have been ruined, then I unfortunately ruined the race of other guys, which is something I don't like.
I will keep on trying, but will surely not keep on going like that on LFM. My current opinion is that it is a very nice platform, but on the current state it is almost impossible to race.
Of course I could try to start last and try to survive, but it is not my goal in simracing.
Enjoy your simracing journey, that's all that count.
Ahh, sorry to hear you had some rough experiences. I have had exactly the same happen to me, as what you described. Sadly it does happen, and on some more difficult tracks (like Oulton) it happens more often. I try not to let bad races get me down, and I try to expect them so they don’t disappoint me too much. If I have a couple of good races, I prepare myself that I’m due a bad race. Then, if I have 1 bad race for every 2 good races over a longer-term period, I’m happy with that 😃 Keep going, there will be some good races around the corner!
@@chrisrogerssimracing No problem. I come from the good old days of "Grand Prix Legends" ,so I have seen many things in simracing . It is a pity that there is so many nervous guys on LFM (after three race I am always rookie, but I suppose it is the same in about all races. The platform is great , and the level very nice. Plus the grid are almost always full. I personally don't care about the rating ans do on. Just have a nice fun race when I find the time.
We just should have a system like in Grand prix legends. One contact, race is over. This is the best moderation tool !
I will keep for sure keep on going, but i have to report all the incident where I am involved.
Hey Chris. You are using the default aggressive set-up right? Your tire pressures are too low. You need to be around 27.4-27.7 usually. Try adjusting the tire pressures next time, just about one or two clicks just to see if after a few laps you're in that range. Tire pressures are very important in ACC. Keep at it. Entertaining as always. :)
Ahh thanks, yeah running default aggressive with the TC ramped up. I thought I’d got my tyre pressures good during my practice session - but now I realise my error. I practiced on single player, hot temperatures at midday. Tyre pressures were adjusted accordingly, but then I joined the race server and it was 9pm at night and a lot colder. So I’m guessing that made my adjusted tyre pressures useless 🤦🏻♂️ lesson learned… adjust tyres based on the race server conditions next time!! Thanks for the advice, much appreciated as always
The 4 most important things in car setup - 1. Tyre pressures. 2. Tyres. 3. The driver. 4. Everything else!
really enjoyed your video, this is truly a hidden gem in RUclips. Keep it up
Ahh thank you Ade, really appreciate the kind words. And thanks for watching. I’ll try to make sure I’m not so far behind on the next one!
Awesome commentary. I don’t play ACC but man, you won a subscriber ! Well done mate
Thank you mate, welcome to the channel! I vary the sim titles I race all the time, so hopefully there will be a few videos of games you play coming up. Thanks for the sub 😃
Love the energy of your narration, it's also really interesting to see how someone who isn't an omega amazing driver handles a race, reminds me of my driving :')
Thank you William. Yeah that was my main aim when starting to make these videos. As I newbie myself, I found lots of videos made by the ultra-fast aliens that I couldn’t really relate to. I found it much easier to learn from watching people at a similar pace to me.
You’ll get there Chris - after all, we stormed the Spa 9 hours together not too long ago! (Stormed to a respectable mid pack finish that is… 😂😂)
Great video chief - those opening laps were as perilous as ever!
Yeah I keep trying to remind myself of that, to give me optimism that I can be competitive in this sim. But then I remember how much time we put into practising for that endurance, and how long it took me to get my lap times down. It took weeks, not days! And I seem to remember having a setup that felt a lot better too, particularly helping the car take the kerbs a little better. At the moment, for my ACC hopes, I’m 20% optimistic and 80% cynical!
One setting you might want to look at is Caster in the tyres section. Increasing caster increases wheel camber throughout the corner, as well as gives you stronger force feedback, and the default setups have pretty low caster
I really enjoyed the chaos! 😂 Gonna give this ACC multiplayer thing a try
Good luck! I find it the most challenging of all the sims
Another good video Chris, thanks for sharing and the quality of the editing remains fantastic / getting better even. I personally find it refreshing to see a race from the perspective of the back of the grids; helps us noobs remember that there is always a class above, no matter how good you are. Keep at it, it will be fun watching you progress i'm sure.
Cheers Kaz, yeah it definitely feels like I’m starting right from the beginning again with ACC! Finding it really tough going! Glad you’re enjoying watching, thanks mate
Cris your commentary is second to none, very unique and very good.
Bit of advice get your tyre pressures up to 27.7 by increasing or decreasing the tyre pressures or closing and opening the brake ducts
This is all dependant on the outside and track temperature, you will find you have way more grip.
In this video your tyre pressures never got above 27.1 meaning your losing a ton of time.
Thanks man, cheers for watching! Ahh yeah, setups in ACC have been a real struggle for me… I’ve always just hopped in and run default setups in other sims, but I’ve quickly realised that doesn’t do you any favours in ACC! I’ve started to tinker with tyre pressures since this video, but I hadn’t thought of brake ducts, so I’ll give that a try as well! Cheers for the advice 😃
Nice one Chris, and well done to avoid the carnage!
Don't worry too much about setups; as a general rule you can choose the default aggressive setup (which are good, as a base) and lower the brake bias a bit, and you're golden. Just try and dial in the tyre pressures after that, as that's more important than anything else really
Thanks David, yeah I ran the default aggressive but didn’t make any brake bias changes. I’ll give that a try next time. Also realised I made a basic mistake with the tyre pressures… I did adjust them, but in a different session with hot temperatures at midday. The race was a lot colder and at 9pm, so I’m guessing that’s why my tyres were so bad?!
@@chrisrogerssimracing Yeah, as a general rule you want to adjust one click per degree ambient temp change 👍
@@davidmoscrop3021 Ahh nice one, that’s really handy to know, cheers! So if I create a tyre setup in a practice, I just need to make a note of the track temperature, and then adjust it accordingly when I jump into races? That should be a lot easier than trying to work it out as I do the laps. Thanks!
@@chrisrogerssimracing Yeah, but ambient temp is the one to compare (rather than track temp). One click up or down per degree.
There are exceptions if the track temp varies wildly (if it's super hot, for example). But as a general rule it means you'll be mostly fine for any situation
@@davidmoscrop3021 Gotcha. This week I’m going to try and get my head around it, and hopefully put some of these learnings into practice next race!
Your videos are awesome, thanks
My pleasure mate, thank YOU for watching. Much appreciated 😃
dude i fucking love this comentary i love this guys attitude and everything, mad respect to u my guy don't mind me subbing to this fella
Top man, huge thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel! Glad you like the vids, plenty more races coming up 👍
Another enjoyable video to watch Chris, thank you. After Spa in the Ferrari I tried some other cars and found them a lot easier to handle in ACC and a bit more familiar to other sims, although, like you, ACC felt completely different still. I've actually started to really love ACC in recent weeks, still not fast though, but that's standard not matter what the sim. There are setups for car/track combos on the Internet, most not paid which help a lot and like others have said pressures seem to be vital to get around 27.6 ish. Please don't give up with ACC though, it's been really good viewing as with everything you do, plus, even though it's obviously frustrating to you, it gives a lot of encouragement to others who struggle with the same issues.
Ahh thanks Jason, that’s kind of you to say. I guess if I’m going to experiment with different cars, now is the time to do so, before I get too used to the Ferrari. I did have a search online for any free setups to try, but couldn’t find any for the Ferrari/Snetterton combo. I’m planning to stick with it though. In a way, it’s a fun feeling to start from the very beginning again. And with RaceRoom ranked servers like a graveyard at the moment, ACC is proving a decent alternative for online multiplayer racing. It can only get better! 😂
Love you replay Commentary.. Rookies Are Ruthless
Thanks, yeah I underestimated just how much work is needed to be able to compete. I’m going to prepare a lot more for my next race!
@@chrisrogerssimracing stick with it dude .. racing tends to be cleaner the better your rating .. Plus Ferrari should be good at Barcelona (Next LFM Sprint Round)
Good video and commentary. Its great to see someone with a little less pace play this game instead off the aliens. Im just now trying to get my licence on snetteron and its very difficult. im capable of driving a 1.49 but the consistency isnt there yet.
Thank you. Wow, a 1.49 is a great time. If you can just find a bit of consistency over several laps, you’ll get that licence no problem. And you would have been competing very well in the race with those times too!
You're doing good. I been at for eight hours and I'm just getting into the high 1.51 in the BMW aggressive setup with a little tune, which I'm not good at doing setups.
It looks like watch a soccer game, nice!
Nice one, thanks Rafael!
Great video thanks Chris
My pleasure Nico, thanks for watching.
Epic commentary mate..
Ahh thanks mate, kind of you to say, and cheers for watching!
Another great video Chris. Just learning ACC myself with LFM license in my sights. Your coverage is casting doubt with the poor standard of driving and carnage but the alternative of paying IR fees for the same makes it worthwhile.
Keep going and making the great content you do.
Yeah I’m exactly the same. I’m a bit disillusioned with iRacing, and the RaceRoom ranked servers are pretty empty these days. So ACC is my only alternative option for competitive grid sizes. Lots of people recommended getting out of rookies as quickly as possible - so forgetting about good results, and just focus on safety rating. There are a lot of very fast drivers in rookies but, as this video shows, not all of them are in control! So they’re always stuck in rookies. Think it’s 10 races and a safety rating of 4.0 to graduate 🤞
@@chrisrogerssimracing that strategy sounds sensible to me. I guess it's good training for avoiding collisions and ramping up the rating.
Tyre pressures. Tyre pressures. Tyre pressures!
Cheers, yeah I’ve still not got my head around how crucial these tyre pressures are. I did set them to what I thought was correct, but it was in a different session (daytime, with a hot track temperature). So I guess those settings were pretty useless when I joined a 9pm race with a colder track surface!
@@chrisrogerssimracing save the setups with air and track temps in the name so for example snet A23 T28 then just adjust for future races by going up or down a few clicks
@@zuber2325 Great shout! Thank you, I’ll do exactly that 👍
Good stuff Chris. All the fast drivers are making huge time in the corners. My bet is they're adjusting their brake balance per corner. Also, setups... Coach Dave (Perel) setups are decent, but it can get pricey if you buy lots of setups for lots of cars and circuits :-)
Cheers, yeah I’ve seen Coach Dave’s stuff but I want to try and avoid spending any money on setups. Think I just need to try and master the basics, and hopefully go from there. Think I’ll try and learn some things this week, and see if I can put it into practice for the next ACC race I do 🤞 At least I can’t get any slower 😂
Hey Chris good to see you doing some more ACC. It is my go to SIM at them moment so can I suggest you ditch LFM and try The Pit Crew discord very similar to LFM set up but in my view loads better and so far the racing has been excellent even in the Rookies. Certainly worth a look…. And maybe ditch the Ferrari I am really enjoying the Aston Martin v8 I feel it is much more confidence ensuring to start out in ACC
Ahh Nij, thanks for the recommendations. I was starting to think I may need to choose a different car, so I’ll give that one a run. I’m trying my best to give ACC more of a chance, because I love the impressive choice of online races available. So far it’s not quite clicking for me, but I’m going to stick with it!
Yeah I felt the same initially but the Pitcrew really does offer a great ACC online racing package
Better run there Chris, hang in there, tire pressures are a make or break deal in ACC.. your right, ACC doesn’t feel like any other sim, to me the cars feel “vague” never feel connected to the track, I’m better but still not good at all.. thanks for sharing!!
Thanks Walt. Yeah I struggle with the feeling anyway, and for this race I didn’t have my tyres anywhere near the right pressure, so that only amplified the handling problems! Onwards and upwards!
Holy feces, Batman. What a sh*t-show.
I'm all for inviting new people into the hobby, but if you can't do a clean lap consistently (without other cars on track) you don't belong in multi-player.
There's a difference between speed and race-craft. Which has been well-illustrated in this vid. :)
As always an enjoyable vid, Chris.
Still think you're a little too forgiving as to where an when to defend, but I can't fault your sportsmanship.
Wish the hobby had more of your kind. :)
Yeah, that first lap wasn’t pretty. I tried to avoid being too critical of it… I’ve done nothing but moan about ACC driving standards in recent weeks, so wanted to try being a bit more positive this time. Way off the pace though… really need to get my head around some setup tweaks and tyre pressures in particular. As for lack of defending, yeah I basically opened the door and rolled out the red carpet for them. No confidence, and knowing I’m 2secs a lap slower, just seemed easier to wave them past. If I can get more comfortable with the car this week, I’ll try to put up a better fight!
Move over Martin Brundle.... great commentary!
Haha thanks man. Next week I’ll try to incorporate a pre-race grid walk 😉
Don't feel bad I can't even qualify for LFM ahah
Haha yeah it’s not easy!
Chaos for sure in lap 1! At least it looked like a fair bunch of drivers, no ragers.
Haha yeah, loads of mistakes, but all of them honest mistakes this time, thankfully!
Run aggressive preset if you are not already..avoid safe preset. Keep at it 👍
Thanks Aaron, yeah gonna run aggressive default and try a couple of tweaks for this week. Hopefully will see some signs of improvement 🤞
@@chrisrogerssimracing also look for free setups on YT. Some work a bloody treat and you can save them if they work well for future races on that track
@@MiserableRacer Funnily enough I just found a channel called Sky194, so I’m gonna try one of his setups later as a comparison 👍
hard track to be fair, you wont lose too much time with the default setup though. aggressive is about .7 to 1 second slower. not much.
Ahh thanks, that’s positive to hear. I did realise after that I’d made a complete mess of tyre pressures, preparing them on a hot midday track, and then not changing them for this colder nighttime race. That probably cost me a bunch of time too.
Snetterton curbs are nasty tbh :D but i do like Snetterton
like always u drive rly with far ahead thinking and reacting correctly , dont let your slow pace bother u bc u will get faster over time maybe practice the track in singleplayer a lil bit before or maybe just get a coaching or trackguide for it ... u didnt rly choose the best rookie safe car :D but its a start
keep in mind for tire pressure for every 2°C ,1 click down or up on the pressures and do look if u drive on brakes 1 and not 2 :D bc Brakes 1: Sprint Race, Brakes 2: Endurance Races, Brakes 3: Rain Races, Brakes 4: Qualifying Races (only lasts for about 3 or 4 laps until braking power loses effect)
Hey man, thanks so much for the tips. This week I’m planning to spend some proper time trying to get the car feeling better. And maybe try something different to the Ferrari. It’s a big shock how much more complex this sim is, compared to others!
@@chrisrogerssimracing i agree but if u get into it properly u will have fun especially into Endurance races up to 3-8 hour races :) but thats something for later :) as i said keep up the good attitude on the racetrack and all good :)
love your com
Thank you, glad you’re enjoying the vids! Thanks for watching 👍
I would love to join a league, but I'm WAY off the pace :/ . I am typically 5+ seconds off of what would be "competitive", and sometimes closer to 10 per lap. I can race comfortably with the AI set around 85, which is overall slow.
Do you have any tips for closing the gap other than "practice"? I really like the BMW M4. The idea of even getting my license seems like a daunting task right now.
I think the most time gained/lost is from corner entry and exit. The quick drivers find a really smooth line and carry a lot more corner speed (so get on the gas a lot quicker on exit). I’d suggest watching some fast hot lap videos on RUclips, and study the way they take corners. Where they brake, the line they take, when they get on the gas. Also worth finding someone on RUclips who shares their setup. I’ve just found Sky194, and he shares loads. A good setup may help you find a later braking point than a default setup, and improve your cornering. But stability is always best… if the car feels smoother on default, stick with that while you practice - and then start experimenting with setups later. Hope that helps… good luck! Let me know how you go 😃
Hey Chris! I feel your pain - and frustration. In my case, I can't seem to get fast enough to even qualify for LFM. I'm off by at least 1.5 seconds at Misano - the current qualifying track on LFM. Which track did you qualify on?
I did my licence qualifying run on Hungaroring. It was pretty difficult, ended up finding a time of day when the server was quiet so there weren’t as many cars on track. I’ve now got a bit closer to the pace, but it takes far more practice than in other sims. Also, once I’ve practiced a bit using default setup, I’ve been trying some free setups online to see what difference they make. Sky194 on RUclips is a good place to start. He posts loads of hotlap combos and always makes his setup available to download. Sometimes, these setups help me go a second quicker.
@@chrisrogerssimracing thanks for the reply. I'm using paid set-ups from Coach Dave. I've tried a bunch of different cars (I've settled on the Ferrari), and there are some tracks I do really well on regardless of the car - but I can't seem to reach the pace I need at Misano. I've watched other drivers - studied track guides and practiced until I'm dizzy, but I still can't get there. Argh!!!
@@studio9guy Some tracks are just like that. Snetterton for me - no matter what I try, I’m nowhere near the pace. Must admit I’ve never raced Misano in any sim, so think I’d really struggle there too.
When you say you're using the default setup, do you mean the default safe, or agressive setup? The aggressive is more than enough to have pretty good pace.
Yeah, I ran default aggressive. But I got my tyre pressures completely wrong… set it up in hot conditions, but didn’t adjust it for this colder nighttime race. Think that’s what cost me. Got another 7 races to try and escape these rookies! But need to get way faster in that time 👍
@@chrisrogerssimracing yeap, between 27.5 and 27.7 is perfect, but anything between 27.3 and 27.9 is still competitive. You weren't thaaaat far off tbh.
Have you tried The BMW M4? (Not the M6 its awfull), its a bit easier to drive
No I haven’t, but thanks for the recommendation, I’ll give it a try. The M4 was always my GT3 car of choice in RaceRoom.
Hey Chris, Please keep going, I miss MW Commentaries, he was the last one to have a Passion for Motor Sport, and you're filling that gap. Maybe check out Dalkings "BASIC MOTEC GUIDE EP1", it set me on the right path to at least get consistent and improve lap times, with very little brain input. atb J.
Thank you Jason, and thanks for the video recommendation… I need all the help I can get with setups, so this will be a great place to start! Thanks for watching… I’m definitely planning a quest to graduate from rookies, so I’ll be sticking with it 👍
Hey Chris. Great video. Would you be interested in broadcasting a US based league on ACC?
Ahh thanks man, and cheers for thinking of me. I’d love to, but I’m quite short of time for sim racing currently so I probably wouldn’t want to commit to anything extra. If I get more free time in the winter, I’ll give you a shout 👍
@@chrisrogerssimracing Sounds good bud I understand. Ya we have our Australian broadcaster but he’s unavailable now so we are looking. Saw this video gave you a sub & enjoyed your commentary even on your on race lol.
Ya please Lmk if your available in the winter as well 🤙🏽
Wooooow!!! The rookie series in LFM is pure chaos! I'm so glad I'm out of it
My best lap at Snetterton is 1:53 so I don't qualify for LFM. Someday...
I was in the 1:53s for a lot of my practice session. Then something suddenly clicked and I dropped into the 1:51s. I thought then I was ready for battle… how wrong I was 🤣
Maybe a tad less drama in the commentary?
Yeah I appreciate my commentary style isn’t for everyone. I don’t set out in each race with the aim of being this loud… it just kinda happens. Thanks for watching though 😃
no 18 Ferrari should get banned
I hope you have now learned about engine maps.
Haha yes! No more accidental fuel-saving in sprint races!
@@chrisrogerssimracing I also heard you mention not having time to work on setups. I’m in the same boat, and there is no shame in buying setups. The Coach Dave Academy has very good setups on offer. I highly recommend them. Also, I often steal setups from RUclips videos. Hugo Merlhes has several videos and shows his 488 setups at the end. Cheers from Texas!
Well you need to be running the setup hack, as everyone else will be and tyre temps are critical, so tap up someone on SCB to brief you, without doing this it is pointless racing, you will just go backwards. I don't do ACC so can't help. Looks very much like the iRansom video's I watch, cars sliding off the track here, there & everywhere, makes for good viewing I guess. See you even have to drive it like iRansom and just hide, off the racing line and drive around like the competition has Monkey Pox, not racing in my eyes but whatever turns you on.
And these are exactly the reasons why I’ve mostly avoided ACC up to now. I just don’t enjoy it! But I’m really struggling for online sim options right now… RaceRoom ranked is empty, and I’m a bit disillusioned with iRacing. ACC is the only option left for decent-sized daytime grids (my preferred racing time is daytime). So I’m trying to give it more of a chance to win me over. So far, it hasn’t.
@@chrisrogerssimracing I feel your pain Chris, I too struggle to find a race that's worth attempting. RR is slow during the day and at night I just seem to get murdered. Been sticking to SCB races lately and dipping into rF2 & AC. rF2 doesn't cater for ranked racing but I do believe (ask Walt) AC has quite a large online racing scene. If you go to online in Content Manager there are some tabs that will lead you to a large online community. Crazy that it's the 2 oldest sims that give an option and all the latest and greatest coming up short, imo.
@@PaulMartIn-dm5oi Yeah it’s a pretty poor state of affairs, when you consider how many sim racers there are across the world, that there are so few genuine online racing opportunities to choose from. I’ve really enjoyed the AC races I’ve done in SCB lately, and even the ACC ones too. But I do always like the challenge of racing against ‘the unknown’ - trying to assess who’s safe to race with and who isn’t (and usually ending up cowardly giving positions away). Maybe the options will get better in the autumn 🤞
@Paul Martin setup hacks? i do hope u dont talk about programs outside of acc to use^^
@@chrisrogerssimracing Don't let someone not playing the game and blabbering about setup hacks kill your motivation. There are no setup hacks in ACC. Putting it to default aggressive will make the car somewhat competitive even for top split (wonder if you were running safe here? You were on a fuel-saving map for some reason, that's not the default aggressive map). Also, spend three laps of practice ahead of the race to get your tyre pressures in order (LFM has no free practice, but do it in single player, save the setup and adjust for different temperature. One degree = one click roughly). Coupled with the weird engine map, your pressures in this race did you no favours at all. And if you find that the default aggressive is a struggle on some track (it varies how up to date the defaults are), give me a shout ahead of your next race and I'll spend 10 minutes to make you a very driveable setup.