6.11 Define Load Pattern for Load Cases and Mass Source for Seismic Weight │ Akshay Thakur

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  • Lecture: 6.11 Define Load Pattern for Load Cases and Mass Source for Seismic Weight
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Комментарии • 61

  • @AkshayThakur
    @AkshayThakur  4 года назад

    _If you complete the course, then I'd be happy If you give me the feedback of this course by just filling this google form_ _forms.gle/Q7gUW4untqbBszfs8_

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  2 года назад

      @Kaustubh Saundane kindly update the version at least to 18.0 or latest...
      btw, it won't matter alot just consider parameters like imoortance factor, etc. as per IS 2016 revision, there is just slight change in soil types cuve values for Sa/g in latest for some specific limit of time period...

  • @sujanbadgami4308
    @sujanbadgami4308 4 года назад

    many many thanx thakur sir.this is what most of the student want and where they stuck during their work .u r great .one day ur channel will be at top among the etab student

  • @mohdanas-ey3no
    @mohdanas-ey3no 4 года назад +2

    What is the use of earthquake eccentricity why we use

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад

      Clause 7.8.2 of IS 1893(1) - 2016 states that to consider 0.05 design eccentricity to be used at floor hence it is defined and also diaphragm need to defone for this.... cause its needs to consider in each floor for analysis checks like... storey drift, actual torsion, accidential torsion and torsional irregularity, etc.

  • @AkshayThakur
    @AkshayThakur  4 года назад +1

    Sorry for, Edited Video as Blur at 5:46
    at 5:46 I have inputed the Wind Load for +Y direction in Fy Column for WLY Load Pattern

    • @rameshgorle1760
      @rameshgorle1760 4 года назад

      Sir Which values have to take in Fy negative or positive..??

    • @rameshgorle1760
      @rameshgorle1760 4 года назад

      In excel sheet we have positive and and negative values

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад

      @@rameshgorle1760 for Wind Load-X values should put in X... for Wind Load-Y values should put in Y...

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад

      @@rameshgorle1760 you can create wind pattern in negative direction as well by for X & Y directions otherwise you can consider proper sign while used in load combination...

  • @ConstructionTechandVlogging
    @ConstructionTechandVlogging 4 года назад

    Dear, should we go for ESM or Dynamic analysis like response spectrum and p-delta for G+6 building? Which analysis when to use? I have assumed ESM for low rise and dynamic for high rise like above G+7. So tell me which one to use when? Thank you in advance.

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад

      read clause 7 of IS 1893 for better understanding when to use dynamic analysis ... for p-delta considerations and checks and privisions go through IS 16700 ...
      watch video lectures 4.4, 5.1 in the course for more ...

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад

      as you mention, just to correct you; P-Delta is not a Analysis it is a effect because of lateral loading that we do need to consider in tall building structures...

  • @bishnuprasad1345
    @bishnuprasad1345 4 года назад

    And we can take windward and leeward cofficient factor also in designing ratger then calculating the windload manually ?

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад +1

      Yes, you can... but in Force Coefficient Methods everything is in under control of all conditions and we get to know what exact load we are applying.

  • @prashantkhanal246
    @prashantkhanal246 Год назад

    Why you use program calculated time period .Time period from program calculated and approximate method value is different .So which option is best for analysis ?

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  Год назад

      if you want to be conservative you can use time period by which you will get higher value of sa/g that may be program calculated (modal analysis) or imperial as per code....
      but for real projects you should go with imperical time period as per codal formula that may depends on type of building: bare frame, rc shear wall, or other

  • @YOLO-vc4uf
    @YOLO-vc4uf 6 месяцев назад

    What does an earthquake load in x+0.05e means? is it essential to consider that. pls guide.

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  5 месяцев назад

      if you are doing dyanmic analysis then it may not needed... for static it is essential...

  • @Apoorv111
    @Apoorv111 4 года назад

    At 11:44 time of defining mass source you have check mark to "additional mass", but not to "adjust diaphragm lateral mass to move mass centroid by". what is concept behind that?
    alternatively when to apply check mark on option " include vertical mass".

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад +1

      *Mass Source in ETABS*
      *• Element Self Mass:* Self Weight of Structure (by considering Model Part w.r.t. Materials Properties & Applied Loads under Dead Load Pattern)
      *• Additional Mass:* It includes Loads like Cladding, etc.
      *• Specified Pattern:* This Option Enables Designer to Consider Specific Pattern with control over Multiplier which helps to consider approproate ammount of live load
      *• Adjust Diaphragm Lateral Mass:* it can able to give eccentricity w.r.t. diaphragm, mostly used for huge-complex structures & for research work
      *• Include Lateral Mass:* in this case Mass Source Component X & Y are considered by software
      *• Include Vertical Mass:* in this case Mass Source Component Z are considered by software (this are almost negligible so for most common structures it is untick; if you tick this then Base Shear is increase by 1% to 2%)
      *• Lumped Storey Mass at Story Level:* Basic Approach of Calculation of Earthquake Load
      hope your doubts are clear with this....

    • @Apoorv111
      @Apoorv111 4 года назад

      @@AkshayThakur very well explanation sir..much appreciated.
      it would be so useful if you clear one more doubt - you wrote if tick the "Adjust Diaphragm Lateral Mass" option then it will consider the eccentricity.
      my question is that we already consider one eccentricity at the time of defining load pattern ( EQ-X + ecc.) also another eccentricity at the time of assigning diaphragm ( to know distance between Center of mass and centre of rigidity), then which type of eccentricity is considered by software if we tick the above said option.

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад +1

      • Eccentric Earthquake Load is for Accidental Torsion....
      • Adjust Diaphragm Lateral Mass is for to Adjust Location of Mass Source w.r.t. Diaphragm; where, mostly for common regular building structures with uniformly loaded floor it is not required...

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад

      *Actual Torsion* = Difference between CM & CR; it is for to check the Floor Mass w.r.t. Floor Rigidity...
      *Accidental Torsion* is the Eccentric Earthquake Load in ETABS cause change in Earthquake Load in Structural Members
      *Adjust Diaphragm Lateral Mass* is for Location of Seismic Weight w.r.t. Diaphragm which affect the Earthquake Load and so EL & ELe will also change respectively....
      *Everything has its own Importance, the things is what to consider w.r.t. structural conditions is need to consider...*

    • @Apoorv111
      @Apoorv111 4 года назад

      @@AkshayThakur thanks a lot sir..

  • @danishirfan786tiger7
    @danishirfan786tiger7 3 года назад

    Sorry Sir , Self weight assigning is also available in staad pro , Y-1 , Check That.

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  3 года назад

      yeah, but not the way it etabs; in etabs we have full control over materials properties than staad.pro

  • @revatimutha7258
    @revatimutha7258 4 года назад

    sir, in the excel file you shared(design of RCC building as per IS by ETABS) WL in X direction is 21KN at floor 1 n 11 at head room roof. bt here u r assigning it in reverse i.e. 21 at head room roof... How ????

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад +1

      It is because of effective height.... height is calculated for wind load at story for half of above part and half below.... whereas on over head room slab no any storey so half height is considered as effective heights at top storey.... hence the value is less....

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад +1

      for opimizing load calculations you need to also consider width of head room appropriately for that storey.... which i have not done in video 4.3 in the same course....

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад

      Check the Video "4.3 Manual Wind Load calculations as per IS 875.2-2015" for this....

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад

      *we calculate wind load in the asending order from 1st storey to top, but it ETABS we need to input reverse because in user load wind load pattern table starts from top storey to lower one....*

    • @revatimutha7258
      @revatimutha7258 4 года назад

      @@AkshayThakur yess...due to less effective height force value at top storey is less than other floor, but here in video at 5.24 value at top storey inputed is more than other floor thats contradicting waht calculated manually in excel sheet which u shared

  • @bishnuprasad1345
    @bishnuprasad1345 4 года назад

    Sir what if we consider eccentricity in x and x direction earthquake load kn single case

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад +1

      you can, ETABS results will not differ but for defining load combination manuallly you will get problem, but if you are go with default design combo then ETABS will consider all things...

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад

      my suggestion is define seperate case so that you can check behaviour of particular case...

  • @abhishekjaiss3925
    @abhishekjaiss3925 Год назад

    what if we use IS code instead of user load in wind load calculation?

    • @abhishekjaiss3925
      @abhishekjaiss3925 Год назад

      Need reply sir.🙃

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  Год назад +1

      there are two approaches to calculate wind loads for linear static analysis one force coefficients and other is pressure coefficients
      If you choose, Wind Load as per IS code in Load Pattern then you have to find exact Cpe & Cpi (external and internal presure coefficients) values, those are easy to calculate for truss structures only, if you can do so for building considering opening and all then you can go with that as well....
      in the mention procedure of video i have calculated wind Load by force coefficients....
      you can go with any method but make sure all the code parameters are correct as per method...

    • @abhishekjaiss3925
      @abhishekjaiss3925 Год назад

      @@AkshayThakur can I apply the force coefficient method for high rise? How the high rise building analysis differ from the method you provideded in this course of G+3 building?

    • @abhishekjaiss3925
      @abhishekjaiss3925 Год назад

      Need reply sir...😊

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  Год назад +1

      for tall buildings generally wind forces from wind tunnel testing are used or otherwise gust factor approach is used, which is the further advanced procedure of force coefficients method...
      generally for shed type structures pressure coefficient method is used
      for general building structures force coefficient method is used
      for tall buildings gust factor method is used or otherwise wind tunnel test data is used....

  • @gautamchaurasia7842
    @gautamchaurasia7842 4 года назад

    While defining the mass source, why we have not taken into consideration the lateral loads and their multipliers??

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад

      Mass Source is used to calculate Lateral Earthquake Force... & as per Guidelines of IS 1893.1-2016 we need to consider full dead load and part of live load....

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад +1

      my advice is that, if you haven't idea about manual calculations for earthquake load as per IS 1893.1-2016 then read the basic literature and then come to software analysis.... becuase before inputing any data in software the thing is you should have solid understanding over concepts....

    • @gautamchaurasia7842
      @gautamchaurasia7842 4 года назад

      OK sir...I will surely consider that... Thank You

    • @Sankalp-Art-Work
      @Sankalp-Art-Work 4 года назад

      @@AkshayThakur how to apply mass source if there are live loads are acting is both greater and also equal or less than 3
      Do we need to define two mass source in that case.

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад

      @@Sankalp-Art-Work then create two load patterns and for LL =& 3 0.5 should apply...

  • @beardosrk8797
    @beardosrk8797 4 года назад

    why do we want to input eccentric earthquake load...

    • @AkshayThakur
      @AkshayThakur  4 года назад +1

      to check for Torsion, as per Cl.7.8 of OS 1893.1-2016