This was another sad, but fascinating case. Poor girl. Your research is so thorough and empathetic without sensationalism. And now I want to read the novel loosely based on her life. Thanks again BC.
What a sad thing to happen to this beautiful young woman. It's sad that the person who murdered Mary was never found. Thank you Brief Case for another incredible episode.
This was a very interesting and intriguing story about, Mary Rogers aka the cigar girl. There's a lot of questions that the police probably bypassed about her "horrific," murder, due to being understaffed. Who was the last person she was seen with, where she disappeared the first time, rejected suitors, death bed confession of the woman she once worked for? Great investigating, presentation, historical information, as always.
Maybe the deathbed confession was because she knew or believed that one of her sons were responsible? Great choice of a fascinating, yet frustrating case!
That is my thinking. Either that, or the guilty party was more well-to-do and offered her money to tell the lie, so she did to help her family financially.
BC does it again! I will be thinking about this poor young lady, trying to figure it out ,but there was not enough evidence or it was used poorly. So sad. Your narration and research are stellar once again. My favorite vintage crime channel and you never disappoint me. ❤️🇺🇸
The saddest book I ever read. I don't know about you guys, but I often wish to go back in time, not to get rich on IBM or Microsoft stock, but to save a few of these poor souls from foul play.
Can't go back. There's the old "what if you murdered your grandfather before he could reproduce" conundrum. It's a thing - I think it's called the murdered grandfather conundrum. It's just proof that we can not go back in time.
If it was possible it could affect the way we judge ppl, what if the facts got mixed up over the years and named the wrong person and you killed him/her or intervened at the wrong time and thats what actually caused the death? To many things could go wrong, perhaps its our destiny to want to help but cant?
There is a Lyme in Jefferson County NY. I think that is the reason for the map. It is a good map that I'd never seen before. It has no connection to the story though! 😂
Coincidence..I was just watching a video about Madame Restell on Forgotten Lives channel just a few hours ago.. Another fascinating bit of history there
Excellent job again, Brief Case! I always enjoy Your Writings. This is a very sad and TRAGIC CASE!!! I don’t think that a botched termination of a pregnancy is true! I believe that the Post Morten would have shown traces and forensic evidence left behind in and on Miss, Cigar Girl. Thank You for sharing this one with Us. As usual, I look forward to seeing more of Your work next Monday. Best Wishes, Brief Case. You are SOOOOO AWESOME!!! 😊👍🏼💕❤️👋🏼
Oooooo, nice twist at the end. I suspect her 'visit with an aunt' was a termination as her mother would have known if she was visiting an aunt. I love these older stories. A pretty face was one way to climb up the social ladder. What mom wouldn't want a nicer life for her dtr? Life was harsher then, and the common man's wife work very hard to maintain a house. So many sad turns to this unfortunate lady's life. Her poor mother.
As usual, enjoyed your narration of this story. Very tragic indeed, had modern-day forensics been available, the crime would've been solved. Loved this and looking forward to more Cases. Be Safe and Enjoy your week.
Once again thank you for your wonderful narrating and the priceless snippets of history. As a New Yorker, I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate your research and hard work🌹
Good morning This was a pretty sad one because there was really no justice. I don’t believe the fiancé did it I think he killed himself because he loved her so much and was very distraught over her death There were so many suspects but at the end of the day no one was ever caught. As far as the deathbed confession of the shop owner we don’t know if that’s true either Mary died a horrible horrible death and didn’t deserve that so whatever piece she didn’t get here on earth she received with God. R.I.P. Mary 🙏🏽♥️ Have a wonderful week and look forward to next Monday🌺
@@BriefCaseOfficial My pleasure! Sorry if I made any write mistakes, hard to see with one eye patched Lol Went to hospital this morning again. Happy Halloween! 🎃 Brief Case
@@BriefCaseOfficial Thank you B. C. Doing treatment until end of November! Sorry if I made mistakes or being later. Thank you for your videos. Always nice re-listen them. Wish great week
Oh yes, I listened/watched Forgotten Lives story from last week. Your presentation was very well done. Not a good time to be alive if one was unmarried and with child.
"The Mystery of Marie Roget": I need to re-read that one. I have a big, beautifully-illustrated old book of Poe's stories with that one in it, and it's been a long time since I perused it. Now that I know more of the facts behind the real case, it may be a different experience.
Another fascinating story ! I look forward to your tales each week. Always well documented with great visuals. Thank you ever so much for your time and considerable efforts Mr. Brief Case.
Thank you BC. So sad that Marys death is so tragic. In my opinion her fiance didnt murder her but his regret is not accopanying her because of the very bad weather. Unfortunately it wasnt solve. RIP
Thank you for including this case. Have you read Poe the detective; the curious circumstances behind The mystery of Marie Roget by John Evangelist Walsh? If I remember correctly, Poe had to change the direction of his story as he was writing it for serialization because of new newspaper information about the Mary Rogers case.
Wishing a happy Brief Case Monday and a very happy Halloween to all🎃💀🎃. Thanks as always BC, you make Mondays enjoyable and always give me things to ponder with your true crime and history. You are appreciated sir! 🙏🖤✌️
I can definitely see how it makes sense that she had an abortion during the first time she went missing and there was a suicide note...her coming back unsociable and melancholic..that part makes sense...
Yes. But not that that was how she was murdered. But it could have had something to do with who ever tied her down and strangled her. You don't need to leave strangulation marks on a woman to terminate her pregnancy. And if something went wrong she would likely die of blood loss and not need strangulation to die.
Another awesome narration. The research as always regarding these historical cases is of high quality. BC you again have proven to many why your channel is popular for its content. Thank you BC.
Another excellent presentation BC. As one who works n law enforcement, I must say, they did very thorough police work, especially for the era. You know Ben Franklin wrote a recipe for a cocktail for the purpose of termination.
@@BriefCaseOfficial oh Modest one! You are MY favorite ... in my eyes, the best. Love your delivery, and voice. Great stories and images. Well put together!
A suspenseful mystery. The deathbed confession doesn't seem to match the autopsy. Is the autopsy wrong? Many possibilities. Great illustrations. Thanks for the mystery and all your hard work. Appreciate
It seems more likely that she was murdered by someone she went to meet. I’m familiar with Hoboken. That area was probably a bit remote. (I believe Stevens Institute of Technology now sits on the cliff over the cave.). It still is an odd area to walk by, although there is a park, ferry ramp and much more on that road.
Thank you for this very interesting video from you Brief Case on this brisk morning. I love how you never fail to produce such quality content for everyone to enjoy. 😁
I recently started a new job, and my favorite thing about Monday's is getting home, and unwinding by watching your videos! Thank you for another great, but sad story!
It is so infuriatingly sad that with all her injuries documented by the pathologist and cause of death being strangulation, this poor girls reputation was so sensationally brought into question during a period of time when, to society that was the most important thing. No matter a woman's status. It must have been terrible for her mother who had previously lost 3 children to then loose Mary in such a horrendous way and then her Childs name be sullied. Thank you for remembering poor Mary.
Hi B C thanks for another amazing ,and interesting story,This case was so sad , and strange,as always you did a wonderful job with this case I love your voice!! Thanks again B C for your awesomeness!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
What a sad and confusing case, well done BC these cases are so intriguing and interesting, wonderfully narrated and the illustrations are absolutely spot on for the periods. Poor dear Mary, may she rest in peace.
I used to live in Hoboken, NJ. Sybil’s Cave was a Victorian era natural spa if I recall correctly. It is on the NJ side of the Hudson River facing Manhattan.
Very sad story of beautiful Mary Cecilia Rogers. I could not decide who I thought killed her. It's always a problem not confiding with anyone if you are seeing someone secretly. RIP Mary Rogers. Have a very nice week BC and friends. Elizabeth C.
Don't you love gossip. Keeps things alive. These are the fascinating stories. Anyone's guess as to what happened, I believe it was random and someone whom she rejected at some point in the cigar store.
Yes, but would she have gone to that part of town alone ? Or with a suitor that she rejected. The question is why she went to that area at all : an abortion, or a walk in the woods with a lover ?
This was a great story. The man who owned the cigarette shop, should not have promoted his shop using Mary. All sorts arrived to stalk her. Mr Anderson did it all to sell the smokes.
This was another sad, but fascinating case. Poor girl. Your research is so thorough and empathetic without sensationalism. And now I want to read the novel loosely based on her life.
Thanks again BC.
Thankyou :)
@@BriefCaseOfficial Agreed.. keep up good work, respectful of the victims.
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@@geminijohnson4019 If you're asking about the Poe story, it's "The Mystery of Marie Roget". See above for a link to an online text.
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@@BriefCaseOfficial ditto! Have a great week!
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Told expertly once again. I was on the edge of my seat when Mary went missing. Such a sad case. Thanks for telling!
Thanks Susan
@@BriefCaseOfficial You are so welcome! Please continue the good work you do.
A tragic murder that didn't have to happen If the poor girl was chaperoned & protected !! 🤢💔
What a sad thing to happen to this beautiful young woman. It's sad that the person who murdered Mary was never found. Thank you Brief Case for another incredible episode.
Why do parents let their young girls walk home alone unchaperoned??? This breach of protection goes on In present times as it did back then ! 😓💔
This was a very interesting and intriguing story about, Mary Rogers aka the cigar girl. There's a lot of questions that the police probably bypassed about her "horrific," murder, due to being understaffed. Who was the last person she was seen with, where she disappeared the first time, rejected suitors, death bed confession of the woman she once worked for? Great investigating, presentation, historical information, as always.
Maybe the deathbed confession was because she knew or believed that one of her sons were responsible? Great choice of a fascinating, yet frustrating case!
Thanks Holly
That is my thinking. Either that, or the guilty party was more well-to-do and offered her money to tell the lie, so she did to help her family financially.
I agree. If it wasn’t one of them, then someone else she knew and cared enough to try and ensure that the issue was put to rest with her death.
My thoughts too. She had been sexually assaulted & they apparently dumped her body there.
And I don´t think she was shot by accident either.
You have such a skill of finding the most interesting of cases and breathing life into them. Bravo!
BC does it again! I will be thinking about this poor young lady, trying to figure it out ,but there was not enough evidence or it was used poorly. So sad. Your narration and research are stellar once again. My favorite vintage crime channel and you never disappoint me. ❤️🇺🇸
The saddest book I ever read. I don't know about you guys, but I often wish to go back in time, not to get rich on IBM or Microsoft stock, but to save a few of these poor souls from foul play.
You'd change the present! Don't mess with the past
I would go back to discover the truth to many of these crimes
Very sad and true. Philadelphia USA
Can't go back. There's the old "what if you murdered your grandfather before he could reproduce" conundrum. It's a thing - I think it's called the murdered grandfather conundrum. It's just proof that we can not go back in time.
If it was possible it could affect the way we judge ppl, what if the facts got mixed up over the years and named the wrong person and you killed him/her or intervened at the wrong time and thats what actually caused the death? To many things could go wrong, perhaps its our destiny to want to help but cant?
Brief Case is the best thing about Mondays.
I'm snuggled up in bed with a cup of tea, watching BC, while the rain pours down outside. 😊
@@Terri_MacKay lucky! I'm in southern California, we need some of that rain please. ✌️
I disagree.
Best thing every day of the week.
Enjoyed this story BC - great artwork too - that Jefferson County map was great
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There is a Lyme in Jefferson County NY. I think that is the reason for the map. It is a good map that I'd never seen before. It has no connection to the story though! 😂
@@meemurthelemur4811 you crack me up Meems - Happy Halloween
Coincidence..I was just watching a video about Madame Restell on Forgotten Lives channel just a few hours ago..
Another fascinating bit of history there
Another intriguing story. Looking forward to next Monday.
Thanks :)
Excellent job again, Brief Case!
I always enjoy Your Writings. This is a very sad and TRAGIC CASE!!! I don’t think that a botched termination of a pregnancy is true! I believe that the Post Morten would have shown traces and forensic evidence left behind in and on Miss, Cigar Girl. Thank You for sharing this one with Us.
As usual, I look forward to seeing more of Your work next Monday. Best Wishes, Brief Case. You are SOOOOO AWESOME!!! 😊👍🏼💕❤️👋🏼
Oooooo, nice twist at the end. I suspect her 'visit with an aunt' was a termination as her mother would have known if she was visiting an aunt. I love these older stories. A pretty face was one way to climb up the social ladder. What mom wouldn't want a nicer life for her dtr? Life was harsher then, and the common man's wife work very hard to maintain a house. So many sad turns to this unfortunate lady's life. Her poor mother.
Mother was very naive, dumb and stupid !! 🤮
As usual, enjoyed your narration of this story. Very tragic indeed, had modern-day forensics been available, the crime would've been solved.
Loved this and looking forward to more Cases. Be Safe and Enjoy your week.
Thanks Vanessa
Too bad crimes in 1841 can't be solved with our tech.
You're perfect for the Halloween 🎃 mood. I was just binge rewatching some of your others waiting for the new one. Keep them coming!
Thank you!
Wonderful pictures, Brief Case.
Your research on the social history is exemplary.
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Thankyou :)
Happy Halloween, Mr. Case!!
Thank You, Brief Case, Excellent, as ALWAYS! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Same time, same place Monday!
Thanks Renee
Once again thank you for your wonderful narrating and the priceless snippets of history. As a New Yorker, I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate your research and hard work🌹
Thanks Linda
This was the basis for Edgar Allen Poe's story, "The Mystery of Marie Roget," which was set in Paris.
Good morning
This was a pretty sad one because there was really no justice.
I don’t believe the fiancé did it I think he killed himself because he loved her so much and was very distraught over her death
There were so many suspects but at the end of the day no one was ever caught.
As far as the deathbed confession of the shop owner we don’t know if that’s true either
Mary died a horrible horrible death and didn’t deserve that so whatever piece she didn’t get here on earth she received with God.
R.I.P. Mary 🙏🏽♥️
Have a wonderful week and look forward to next Monday🌺
Gives me such a sad feeling in my stomach to think what happened to her.
Thank you for your Monday's great show-cases B.C. Happy to be on time for a change
Thanks for listening
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My pleasure! Sorry if I made any write mistakes, hard to see with one eye patched Lol Went to hospital this morning again. Happy Halloween! 🎃 Brief Case
Oh no, I hope you get better soon
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Thank you B. C. Doing treatment until end of November! Sorry if I made mistakes or being later. Thank you for your videos. Always nice re-listen them. Wish great week
Oh yes, I listened/watched Forgotten Lives story from last week. Your presentation was very well done. Not a good time to be alive if one was unmarried and with child.
Yay a new video! Thank you so much for all your hard work 💪🙂
Good morning and thank you Brief case my Mondays would be lost without you!! 😂❤️
"The Mystery of Marie Roget": I need to re-read that one. I have a big, beautifully-illustrated old book of Poe's stories with that one in it, and it's been a long time since I perused it. Now that I know more of the facts behind the real case, it may be a different experience.
Excellent video as always BC , I've seen this case covered before but it's the first time that I can recall ever have seen a picture of her .
Smashing BC, happy Halloween 🎃 hey to brief cat 🐈 🍁🇨🇦🌞🐘
Another fascinating story ! I look forward to your tales each week. Always well documented with great visuals. Thank you ever so much for your time and considerable efforts Mr. Brief Case.
Thanks for listening
Good morning & Happy Halloween 🎃 fascinating story as always much love from Louisiana ❤️💯
Thanks, BC. Have a great week and stay safe.
Thanks you too
Thank you BC. So sad that Marys death is so tragic. In my opinion her fiance didnt murder her but his regret is not accopanying her because of the very bad weather. Unfortunately it wasnt solve. RIP
I agree wholeheartedly. Honestly sucked to be him in his last moments.
He loved her, lost her, he committed suicide !! 💔
another great case, thank you!
Thank you for including this case. Have you read
Poe the detective; the curious circumstances behind The mystery of Marie Roget by John Evangelist Walsh? If I remember correctly, Poe had to change the direction of his story as he was writing it for serialization because of new newspaper information about the Mary Rogers case.
Wishing a happy Brief Case Monday and a very happy Halloween to all🎃💀🎃. Thanks as always BC, you make Mondays enjoyable and always give me things to ponder with your true crime and history. You are appreciated sir! 🙏🖤✌️
I can definitely see how it makes sense that she had an abortion during the first time she went missing and there was a suicide note...her coming back unsociable and melancholic..that part makes sense...
Yes. But not that that was how she was murdered. But it could have had something to do with who ever tied her down and strangled her. You don't need to leave strangulation marks on a woman to terminate her pregnancy. And if something went wrong she would likely die of blood loss and not need strangulation to die.
Another awesome narration. The research as always regarding these historical cases is of high quality. BC you again have proven to many why your channel is popular for its content. Thank you BC.
Wow, thank you!
I believe "The Mystery of Marie Roget" by Edgar Allan Poe was based on this.
Yes it was
A very thorough analysis of the crime, excellent book
Fantastic as usual. 👍
Thank you so much
Having a wee binge watch of brief case as always fascinating story's, thanks brief case 👌👌👌
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As many unanswered mysteries this sad case contained, I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised someone had written about it.
Thanks BC. Have a good week.
Thanks Bill You too
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I had heard of this case but your version was well told. Poor Mary. .
Thanks Brief Case for another great Case
When I think of sailors' knots "rudimentary" is not the first word that comes to mind.
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You have a nice-sounding voice.
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Another excellent presentation BC. As one who works n law enforcement, I must say, they did very thorough police work, especially for the era. You know Ben Franklin wrote a recipe for a cocktail for the purpose of termination.
Wowwwww 😮
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@@BriefCaseOfficial oh Modest one! You are MY favorite ... in my eyes, the best. Love your delivery, and voice. Great stories and images. Well put together!
Great video as usual. Thank you.😊
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I really look forward to 4:41 listening/watching to your videos. Always very interesting.
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Always been fascinated by this one - great choice of case as always!! Thank you !🙂
Well-spoken, well delivered - thank you.
Thanks :)
How Very Sad for Mary! Heartbreaking! It sounds like Mary didn't get Justice for her Murder! I hope Mary is at Peace.💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
Somehow,some of us,need an Unsolved Mistery Pill to get well throughout the week.BC provides it.Good Morning BC....Good Morning everyone
It sounds like maybe something happened to Mary when she was gone for a few days.💔💔💔💔
I almost wonder if there was a pregnancy scare that made her disillusioned
Once again another fantastic weekend story
Thanks for listening
A suspenseful mystery. The deathbed confession doesn't seem to match the autopsy. Is the autopsy wrong? Many possibilities. Great illustrations. Thanks for the mystery and all your hard work. Appreciate
Another excellent presentation, as usu. Thanks Mr BC
Thank you Barbara
good video as always
Glad you enjoyed
Wow!! What a true mystery, great for Halloween. Love this channel!
Greetings friends and BC. Happy Hallow’een to all.
A fascinating story. Thanks again BC. Hope you enjoyed your extra hour of sleep.
Once again another amazing Brief Case.
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Wow another brilliant case from BC you are so good at finding these stories from days gone by. Please keep them coming x
Happy Monday, all!! 😊
It seems more likely that she was murdered by someone she went to meet. I’m familiar with Hoboken. That area was probably a bit remote. (I believe Stevens Institute of Technology now sits on the cliff over the cave.). It still is an odd area to walk by, although there is a park, ferry ramp and much more on that road.
Thank you for this very interesting video from you Brief Case on this brisk morning. I love how you never fail to produce such quality content for everyone to enjoy. 😁
I recently started a new job, and my favorite thing about Monday's is getting home, and unwinding by watching your videos! Thank you for another great, but sad story!
Thanks Kasey, I hope the job goes well :)
@@BriefCaseOfficial thank you!!! So far, it is! :)
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How very sad, BC! This was very good as always!
Very complicated indeed and many areas of s suspicion (?) Thank you so much! again! Brief Case..
I fully enjoy your storys with history & mystery! Keep up thee great telling!!💯☯️🌎🎃
if daniel went to the tavern before he died couldn’t the owner have confirmed or denied that he was the man she was seen with the night of her death?
Hi BC What a Tragic story! So many possible theories, thank you for sharing your research and shining the light on Mary Rogers!☮️🌺🐝safe
It is so infuriatingly sad that with all her injuries documented by the pathologist and cause of death being strangulation, this poor girls reputation was so sensationally brought into question during a period of time when, to society that was the most important thing. No matter a woman's status. It must have been terrible for her mother who had previously lost 3 children to then loose Mary in such a horrendous way and then her Childs name be sullied. Thank you for remembering poor Mary.
Very intriguing story nicely done BC, keep them coming.
Thanks, will do!
Wow what a very sad case 💔 great video as always BC..i am a huge fan, keep up the fantastic work 😁🙌 Xx
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Hi B C thanks for another amazing ,and interesting story,This case was so sad , and strange,as always you did a wonderful job with this case I love your voice!! Thanks again B C for your awesomeness!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
This is a sad story yet most fascinating ❤️
Good morning Brief Case, interesting story, God bless and have a great week 🥰
Thanks for listening Dixie, you too
Good morning and thank-you
Thank you too
It's interesting that, even now, when somebody mentions "the Cigar Girl," people remember Mary Rogers.
What a sad and confusing case, well done BC these cases are so intriguing and interesting, wonderfully narrated and the illustrations are absolutely spot on for the periods.
Poor dear Mary, may she rest in peace.
Thanks Derek :)
I used to live in Hoboken, NJ. Sybil’s Cave was a Victorian era natural spa if I recall correctly. It is on the NJ side of the Hudson River facing Manhattan.
Very sad story of beautiful Mary Cecilia Rogers. I could not decide who I thought killed her. It's always a problem not confiding with anyone if you are seeing someone secretly. RIP Mary Rogers. Have a very nice week BC and friends. Elizabeth C.
Interesting details
How sad. Thank you. I love your videos
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Brife Case as always sensational job my friend keep up the sensational work
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@@BriefCaseOfficial you're welcome my friend
A true mystery glad to run across your channel
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Don't you love gossip. Keeps things alive. These are the fascinating stories. Anyone's guess as to what happened, I believe it was random and someone whom she rejected at some point in the cigar store.
Yes, but would she have gone to that part of town alone ? Or with a suitor that she rejected. The question is why she went to that area at all : an abortion, or a walk in the woods with a lover ?
Many unanswered misconceptions ! 💔
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This was a great story. The man who owned the cigarette shop, should not have promoted his shop using Mary. All sorts arrived to stalk her. Mr Anderson did it all to sell the smokes.
He wasn't the first and certainly wasn't the last to exploit young women for commercial purposes 😢
Very sad unfortunately we will never know the truth 👏👏👏good work
Love your intro music, and your voice. And always a gripping story.
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