Peartree 🍐🌳 - Least Used Station in Derbyshire
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- TIme to visit another another least used station - this time on a chilly day with snow on the ground, to meet my local companion to take me to Peartree (🍐 🌳), that's the least used station in Derbyshire!
The Office of Rail and Road station usage estimates are here: dataportal.orr...
Karen is the best "Least used station in...." there has ever been. Really enjoyed her clear presentation style.
Why thank you!😍
Lol had no idea you were on here. You did brill.
I think Geoff's Mom was the best episode. She was hilarious. (Faygate)
@@sqrtof81 Tina is a superstar.
Those locked gates and intercoms won't help the figures.
I can't even make a phone call to someone I know, let alone ring some random person to be let onto a station. Even if I lived right next door to the station I'd be walking the
Deltic if Ilived there I probably would not even realize its open to the public it really doesn't look it, I'd just walk past a random intercomed gate every day, as you do
Probably by design. The more they can discourage people from using the station the more likely it is they'll be able to close it.
@@ClarinoI kind of sick
@@ClarinoI kind of sick
How bad of an area is this?
Karen’s snow writing is commendably neat. 👍🏻
The German for light bulb is Glühbirne which literally translates as glowing pear
I had a light bulb moment
Well In Denmark Its Just Pear
In Dutch (yes closely related) it's a "glowlamp", but the nickname is a pear :)
@@ewanrpj3512 "Pære" is short for "glødepære".
BuzzinsPetRock78 yesh fenk you for dish
Karen was good co-presenter in this episode.... nice to see ladies who love trains!
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Karen is so amazing! Making graphs, knows some spanish, likes Back to the Future, brings tea and cakes, presents really well and I also love how she says plummet.
Hearing Geoff say names like Normanton, Sinfin, Derby, and Peartree is so odd!
I grew in derby and at one point lived 4 minutes from this station, I used to hear the trains rumbling in my sleep, and the factories working away. It’s so weird that I now live in London with a-trillion-and-one rail options, I remember thinking as a kid that living near this station used to feel special, a little portal to travel to anywhere.
Great video Geoff. This one meant a lot.
I get the feeling the reason why this is one of the least used stations is because of the "buzzer to entry" thing and the fact it's in a strange looking area.
@@simontay4851 Not if there's 5 trains a day. Nobody is going to go via rail if they can't get home.
Simon Tay there’s Rolls-Royce (aircraft engines) 5 minutes walk from this station, should get a lot more use than it does.
@Stewart Bradford In your reply you have hit on the nub of the problem. Very few people today will walk anywhere (even 5 mins) if they can just get in their car and drive door to door. Add that to only 5 trains a day and atrocious access to the station (imagine you were in a wheelchair) and this just about seals this station's place as a least used.
A partridge in a Peartree
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Alan Partridge in a Peartree
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Darn! You beat me to it! :)
@@murdelabop I know a lady called Mrs Partridge who lives in Derby. I've always been tempted to put a ticket from Derby to Peartree in her Christmas card!
I got this train from Stoke to Derby every week to Uni for three years. I have a lot of love for that one car train, regardless of how busy it is at peak times! Got to love seeing Peartree on these.
We definitely need Karen back! She brought a graph and local etymology 👍👍
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We do things properly in Derbyshire - tea and graphs 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
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BONES FOUND peak district mines ✌Derbyshire
Ey up! Tea n’ graphs proper.
I hear that familiar song for "Least Used Station," I upvote.
I don't know why but I find this reaffirms my sense of British silliness and that makes me happy
Pertwee. A defo Doctor Who Fan I see Geoff.
I was wondering if anyone else noticed that! :)
Delia Derbyshire created the original Doctor Who music based on what Ron Grainer composed. Sort of tenuous connection of names there...
And Karen was wearing a decorative vegetable on her coat. A nod to the 5th doctor surely.
Hi Geoff, It Richard from Network South East - Deal
Great Video, By the way - the train you got from Peartree was a old Greater Anglia 156 train (156909) in the temp - EMR Livery
yep they are so glad they are normaly two choces as i can always get a seat
A dog with a bone = gnaw
A man = man
A large weight = ton
Is the world reverting to Egyptian Hieroglyphics?
Normanton. A stock cube, a man and a ton weight.
Warren Moore that’s brilliant!
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I'm guessing that's some pommy reference for the Nor part? So a stock cube company I guess?
I was thinking OXO.
@@MrThedwp Knorr.
I used to catch the train from here daily when working at RR - that was when it was the Birmingham bound train that was stopping there, rather than the Crewe. There was a groupo of 5 of us catching it without fail every day :)
You should buy a ticket from Peartree Station to Cherry Tree Station!
I don't know why I watch these videos. But I do. Everytime.
I used to live in Derby and once used a driving lesson to explore Peartree (and Sinfin Central just after it was closed) - immense 90’s geeking! Delicious.
I'd be interested to learn more about the use of freight rail in the UK in one of your videos! The routes and what gets shipped about!
Brave walking around that bit of Derby, it's pretty rough!
Being from Derby, and knowing where this station is located within the city, the surrounding area can be a bit rough at times, so I'm guessing that could be a reason for the gates to the platforms
I really enjoy your videos . I stumbled across them about 6 months ago. Your videos are the only ones i watch without doing anything else at the same time .
very kind, thank you!
I often travel through, though not stopping at Peartree. Interesting to note that the curve to Sinfin Central is still used (once a week I believe) to deliver aviation fuel to Rolls Royce. There is a public footpath through the Rolls-Royce site to the station, although only the platforms remain. It also has a geocache for Geoff! GC5JJ9G
I need to check this out!!!thanks!!!!!
Pear Tree & the Sinfin Branch was actually re-opened in 1976, along with a few peak trains sponsored by Derbyshire County Council. Not a success, the trains were abandoned in the eighties, with a Parliamentary train actually operated by a taxi if anyone bothered to turn up for it! I think a formal closure procedure was eventually completed but Pear Tree survived by virtue of being on the Main line, being served by Derby-Crewe trains.
It's such a shame that so many services have been cut/lost. Did you know about the Ramsline halt, about halfway between Derby and Peartree? It was used for shipping in (or TRAINING in) away fans but only ever saw four services and closed in 97. Halt platform is still visible though.
I saw Pertwee in the corner there Geoff! Good one!
Karen seems to be the font of least used railway station knowledge....excellent videos 😎👍
Mad but good! In the 80s I was fascinated by the Sinfin branch and Peartree. Always used to look for it on trains from Sheffield to London.
Currently work at the Sinfin Rolls-Royce site. That curve of track is now used to deliver fuel to the fuel farms for the test beds
Thanks for the info!!! 👍
And with public access to the closed station between the sites, they could have had a mooch to the old station by the fuel storage.
I found the "fuel farms" thing intensely bemusing until it dawned on me that you probably mean the jet engines Rolls-Royce, not the expensive cars Rolls-Royce. :)
The line to the left after Sinfin (and another station called Chellaston) joined the Stenson Jct - Sheet Stores Jct (to Trent, Nottingham and London) at Chellaston Jct, and at Melbourne Jct ran off for Melbourne and onto Ashby-de-la-Zouch.
During WW2 the Melbourne line became the Melbourne Military Railway No.2 (after LMR being No.1). The line existed until 1982 and is now a cycle path with so much left on show, loading gauges, track and stations - not forgetting the grand viaduct over the River Trent. Also less well known are the Concrete Buffer Stops in the field near the main army base, the remains of engine shed near the junction where an old quarry used to be, and also the pumping station near the viaduct that used to pump water a mile from there to the engine shed!
I think both of the Sinfin platforms still exist, with one of them still with the shelter albeit overgrown and even more sparse than Peartree & Normanton, near the end of the siding for the fuel tankers.
Also heading towards Derby near Peartree is the also abandoned station of Baseball Ground Halt, which was built on old line into Derby St. Andrews Goods Yard. It was proposed in the 1990s to have a station to serve the Derby County Baseball Ground for visiting fans, but by the time it had opened Derby County were moving to the new stadium of Pride Park, and even after a station name change to Ramsline Halt, it's location from the new stadium, and coupled with the fact it had only seen a handful of trains since it opened, sealed it's fate and was quietly closed around 2000. The station is still there, some way out signs and Intercity Red lamp posts can be seen as you approach Derby on the left hand side.
Brilliant video as always.
I can only assume with Peartree that those gates look like the station is closed (they haven't been there that long, but are there to stop people trying to kill themselves), coupled with the fact it isn't well signposted and the regular public transport links from Arriva that drops you in the city centre are some of the reasons for low patronage. However, like the other Derby suburb station at Spondon, their original use of providing links to big employers such as Rolls Royce, Leys Malleable Castings and British Celanese before the rise of better road transport networks are now defunct, all but Rolls Royce (albeit moved to Sinfin) still exist and with the close nature to our small city make them good candidates for closure.
Thanks for the very interesting history! I did do a small piece to camera about the Ramsline Halt but it didn't make the cut. As you obviously know, there is a lot of history and interesting info about this area, and indeed the wider Derby area, with regard to rail routes past and present. Plenty of material for a whole series of videos! 😎
I've had this video on my watch later list for a while and just came round to it and it happens to be on the day its snowed first time in a year.
I'm surprised that Edale didn't make the list, but my memory is over 50 years old. That station probably doesn't exist any more. Still, that village marked the start of many memorable walks in the Pennines. There was a delightful pub which served wonderful cheese butties and stout. This old Yank's memories of school boy days are fading, especially since I'm so far from Cheshire and Derbyshire. Aloha from Hawai'i!
Edale is still open, and by considerable margin the busiest of the stations of the Hope Valley line, not least because it is the official start of the Pennine Way. It ranks 17th of the 38 stations in Derbyshire, with 93,000 users recorded in 2018/19, compared with Peartree's 3,000.
Dove Holes, on the Buxton branch, has been the least-used station in Derbyshire in the past, but Peartree just pipped it last year and is now down to half Dove Holes' figures (3000 v 6000). These two are way below anywhere else in the county - their combined usage figures add up to less than half those for the next-least used station (Spondon).
@@norbitonflyer5625 Wow! I was an "exchange student" 1967-1968 at a school in Cheshire. Some Saturdays, I would take younger lads from school on a walk across the moors. They had to learn how to use a compass and topog maps. We had great but sometimes scary adventures, as you can imagine. I bet most hikers now try to use GPS, with deadly results. But 93,000 passing through Edale? That figure is stunning. When we went walking 50+ years, we saw no-one else but us. Thank you so much for responding to my comment. Aloha!
Because I grew up in Derby, you go up to Osmaston Park Road, Derby's inner ring Road (only ring road really), then they have built cinema complex, where there used to be old Army barracks, but if you go to other side of bridge, used to be "Peaks bakery", and we had a go cart.... Maybe I was 5 years old, my older sister, my two older brothers, and we built a den in between two train tracks (track splits), and there was a pond, and it was haunted!!!!!! And a donkey would come out of the water, pulling,,,, whatever they used to mine/quarry there........
Rolls-Royce closing their Nightingale Rd site will certainly have contributed to the falling usage figures for Peartree.
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BONES FOUND peak district mines.
The fact nothing really stops there after the sinfin branch closed
@@andrewwilson6240 I came back from the Battle of Nantwich in January on one of the handful of trains that stopped at Peartree.
I cross over that road bridge at Peartree Station (on the other side) a good couple times, mainly by car though, but I've walked over it too, mainly to get snacks at the Sainsburys' on the east end of the bridge to sneak into the Showcase Cinemas on the west end of the bridge. You have Sunnyhill to the southwest and further south is Sinfin, going even further south is where I'm at. There a few buses that have stops nearby too. Heading north you go towards Derby Town Centre.
Heck I live right next to Sinfin and even I didn't know the "without end" in Spanish xD , 2 years too late to meet Geoff but its cool to know you've been here xD. Sadly I've never been on this station platform so I get to see just a tad more then what I can see on the bridge; I've rarely ever commuted by train. Peartree is just the area on that side of the bridge.
Great Video, Peartree Station is one that I pass quite a bit if i'm heading towards Derby or the north but never stopped at the station.
I made myself a Sports Almanac book cover earlier in the year. I need that notebook. :)
Oh, DCR 60 and a signal box. That's me happy, lol. Ah, Sinfin, now I get where you are. Pertwee!!
Pertwee. Brilliant!
Karen's snow-printing is impeccable!
Mmmmmm tea and cakes on a cold snowy day. She was in the Guides for sure.
Half of me loves these videos and half of me feels bad for not spending my time doing something more productive.
Thank you for doing peartree Geoff Marshall Little fun station for watching cross country trains pass by and not forgetting various freights aswell
I automatically thought of Alan Partridge when I saw the title.
Hi Geoff, I remember when this station was reopened for the away fans going to the Baseball Ground.
Two of my favourite conductors in one video! Love the EMR lot, always a pleasure dispatching them.
I like a good Peartree. And it's also been snowing here in Telford recently :)
I like how Geoff's started putting Roman numerals for the copyright year like the Beeb
Hey Geoff, will you be going to Worcestershire Parkway when it opens on the 23rd?
Karen took the kids
Then she took the train
I had to look up what this meant! I don't think I'm a typical "Karen", thank goodness!
Karen Pinchbeck no you seem lovely 😂
Awesome as always, I always look forward to least used station vids! I've thought of something Biff from BTTF could say: "make like a (pear) tree and leave" :P
Hahaha yes! But he always got it wrong didn't he, saying "get outta here" instead of "leave", which spoilt the joke!
@@maplady572 Haha yeah he did! Until old Biff travelled back in time to set him straight!
@@planeguy2749 That's right! I love BTTF but had better not go on too much about it here as I'll drive everyone nuts.....😛
@@maplady572 Hahaha that's fair enough. Though I suppose if you were to talk about the train from the third one, it'd kind of be on topic!
@@planeguy2749 absolutely!
How charming!
And to Geoff's usual high standard.
Karen was a great Least Used Station guest, but I'm concerned about the gaps between her feet while measuring the station in Karen-Feet! ;-)
Geoff. The storm, the snow, the 🍐and the 🌲:-):-):-)
I have that same Back to the Future sports almanac! By the way it's not really a sports almanac, it's just a note book - just blank pages. And it was Marty who said "ooh la la!" not Biff
You're quite right about Marty. I realised too late and was unable to do anything about it!
My excuse is that I am an expert in BTTF1 but not 2!
to get more people at pear tre they should time the train to when the movies nearby let in and out.
That's my station! I think the one train in the morning let's it down, I go into Derby for my morning train because the times don't suit, then come back on the 16:30. There's a park connecting the station to a very dodgy area, think that's the reason for the barrier.
The pertwee amused me
Normanton: ⛔️®🙍🏻♂️𐄷 (no-r-man-tonne)
Good one...
Loving the recent content Jeff.
Also on a side note, British weather is amongst the weirdest out there, sun 1 minute, rain/snow the next
Definitely overdue the least used stations in Cambridgeshire and Suffolk. They're literally next door to each other so should be fairly easy to knock out in one day!
Never knew security gate access to a station was a thing. I wonder how many there are in the country today? And what qualifies a station to need this facility?
Was wondering that myself. Apart from keeping the local MENSA club from meeting there, might it be to prevent trespass via the tracks to the RR site?
I read that Normanton is the worst area of Derby for litter & antisocial behaviour including fly-tipping; at least it helps keep the litter louts out!
Very brave going to least used station in the snow
Especially that one as it's not the nicest of areas...
Yeah it's tough out in the wilds of Derby. Don't be such a snowflake.
Ed Wilson I was worried about trains being cancelled and Geoff being stuck out in the snow and cold, these least used stations are never near a Tesco metro. But it’s ok if you like spending the day at a train station
@@discopot But Peartree is right by a big Sainsburys and various other amenities along Derby's outer ring road. There is loads of buses and it's not much more than a couple of miles from the city centre. I went for a peek last year while running at nearby Moorways track. Corrour it certainly isn't!!
Peartree was originally closed in 1968 but was reopened in 1976 along with a short section if the old line to Ashby and two.new stations Sinfin North and Sinfin Central. It was an extension of the service between Derby and Matlock. It was hoped that it would reduce car journeys across Derby but thd service saw little use. The Sinfin service was finally abandoned in the early 1990s and Peartree should have closed at the same time....they prefer to keep these places open then go through the rigmarole of formal closure
I wonder what percentage of stations can be intelligibly written with emojis?
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🏉 Rugby is just one of not many
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The station seems very close to Derby city centre that it seems to be a shame that it's underused. The other "first" station out of Derby, Spondon, does not fare much better.
IMHO if only someone would try to throw in a Parry People Mover or two to shuttle between these stations and Derby...
Karen definitely comes well prepared..
The EMR one car, it can't be called a train, from Crewe to Derby is like a South American bus with all human life on. Just needs a couple of crates of chickens on the roof!
This was interesting & fun! 😊
Got a video idear, visit all Medway stations by getting of and on, they are cuxton,Halling, Snodland, higham, strood, Rochester, Chatham, Gillingham and Rainham
Karen was awesome! 👏
Aw thanks so much!
🍐🌳🔚🇳🇴💂♂️➖🧔⚖️1️⃣0️⃣0️⃣0️⃣, also known as Pear Tree and Norman (-man) tonne (1000 kg). I think I just spent ten minutes on coming up with this.
Karen gets bonus points for the Back to the Future references 👍
D O D E R B Y.
Theres so much rail history here and it'd be so cool for people to hear about it. Don't wanna be in the video but i can help out with some of the history, my family have worked in the Rail industry in Derby for almost a century now. I myself work as an electrical engineer assembling them.
I think it'd be 🍐🌳➕🚫👨🏽💯
(My local station is 🅿🐑🌊. I don't know if you've ever been there? 🤣)
i cant work out what station is your local station
Pewsey
ParkingSheepPackman?
I have been to Pewsey a few times! Not a lot of trains out of there, are there?
My nearest station: 🛌 Ford
Did you know there was a crash near that station during ww2?
I understand that there'll be a memorial installed at that station soon.
Yes that bit of the video didn't make the cut - Aston Maurice Cooper-Key sadly died there in July 1940. Awfully sad story. Aged 21. Yes I hear Radio Derby are spearheading a campaign to have a memorial for him, possibly at the entrance.
On the line south east from Nottingham there was a station called Plum Tree and Normanton.
Blimey.
I see no grit anywhere despite 2 salt boxes isn't this exactly the sort of day they finally see a purpose
🚫🏋️♀️ (Which is a station on its own in West Yorkshire too!)
I just love it when a 153 goes all on its own for some reason (unless it is peak time of course)!
My local station. Also when the gate opened it sounded awfully like the tea ping so I naturally looked for a flask xD
me from South Derbyshire living in London: omg Normanton and Sinfin and everywhere are horrible
also me: show me more of Derbyshire railway
That is Karen raising the bar! Tea and cakes!! Future ‘least used’ participants, take heed!!
I try to feed everybody and anybody, and get ribbed for it! 😉
I used to fly from the same airfield as some friends of mine and they always brought along tea and cake for post-flying. Now we're at different airfields, so I don't get to share that any more. Can you deliver? :-)
Karen has a surprisingly close resemblance to a friend of mine! Uncanny.
I think there is still a weekly aviation fuel train to Rolls Royce which uses the Sinfin branch.
The train I caught from Crewe - Derby on the way home from the Battle of Nantwich last January stopped at Peartree.
Those are some mighty big gaps between the feet!
Please do more videos about trains in derbyshire specifically in the high peak, I love your videos so much
You should do the least used station in East Yorkshire next :))
Why the EMR class 153 didn’t liverd into refurbish
Because the 153s are for the chop, not being PRM-compliant. Why spend money on something soon due for the scrapheap?
My step-grandfather joined the Sherwood Foresters in Normanton Barracks before WW1. (He had to travel from Great Yarmouth) His battalion left for Ireland from Peartree station. It was a busier place then. To learn more read his autobiography on joemasonspage.wordpress.com/2014/07/04/the-army/
Grim fact but the reason the entrances/exits are gated at Peartree is because it’s a fatality hotspot so they only open the gate after the trains are slowed on the approach to the station. I was a guard and didn’t know this until later and left people behind as the gate wasn’t unlocked u til I’d entered the station!
Love these least used station videos. South Yorkshire next please!
What is the locked gate supposed to be for? Seriously Karen wrote + ask them this as a local.
It very obviously does not help security. Once you are in, you have got a locked gate between you + escape from anyone bad (1) who you find in there, or (2) who the office allows in behind you !
Stunned to learn that such a system exists at any station.
Anti social behaviour, drug use etc....
As shown in the film, you can get out without phoning
@@norbitonflyer5625 If it works + has not been vandalised, + the process of getting out is slow.
I thought the carrot was because Karen was going to build a snowman. ⛄⛄⛄⛄⛄⛄⛄⛄⛄
Why didn't I think of that? 🤣
This station once heralded the name "Britain's Most Unwanted Railway Station"
Here's the station on Google maps:
www.google.com/maps/place/Peartree/@52.8947265,-1.4765059,234a,35y,37.59h,57.32t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xd542526cfe877f30!8m2!3d52.8975834!4d-1.4724461
Needs a bit of a re-build, but it should have plenty of potential. A footbridge over the eastern end of the platform with stairs and lifts. Exits under the roadway to the west so you don't even have to cross the street to access those areas. etc. Could turn into a very nice and useful Derby South station.