Confusing BMW M8; Privatest of race tracks; Mustang vs Mustang; Q&A - TST Podcast
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- Matt is back from the Road and Track drive across New York, in which he got very confused by the BMW M8 Competition, and experienced the greatest back yard in the world. Zack went to Tennessee and learned what BMW 2002s share with the Ferrari F50. We discuss the social norms of public chargers and then answer Patreon questions about:
How to upgrade your 2013 Mustang Boss 302
When it's time to trade it in for a 2019 GT PP2
Cars with the biggest differences between trim levels
Bucket list watch conversations
Whether you should crossover or pickup truck
And more
Recorded October 24, 2023
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The story about the livery driver confirms that the people who drive 5 under the speed limit in the fast lane are indeed mouth breathers
0:00 Intro
2:30 Gifts from viewers
5:00 TST Pen collaboration
5:53 Correction about lane splitting
8:15 Adventures in Tennessee
14:12 HQ400 drive event in a BMW M8
28:25 The worst airport ride
38:52 Drama over fast charging to 100%
48:20 Matt’s Dad’s Cayenne Hybrid
50:07 Kyle Conner residential fast charger
51:53 Matt’s Lambo repair bill
1:08:12 Be The Match to win a watch
1:10:21 Patreon Q&A
1:10:44 Boss 302 mods vs selling it
1:13:13 Brands with improved reputation
1:14:00 Talking watches with anyone
1:16:32 Which $35k Mustang
1:17:50 Fun cheap cars that don’t depreciate
1:19:44 Small SUV coupes
1:20:42 Boxster/Cayman things to watch out for
1:22:26 Moving to LA vs NYC
1:25:45 Best and Worst License Plates
1:26:16 Fiesta ST things to look for
1:27:15 Small truck vs SUV
1:29:00 Biggest differences of opinion about cars
1:29:55 T-Pain and Hert video
1:32:24 Swapping a Porsche for Ferrari
1:33:00 How to survive a music festival
1:34:25 Ever met John Davis?
1:34:55 Matt’s family’s Lexus RX collection
1:36:34 997 LS swap
1:38:10 Cars sharing platforms but not interiors
1:41:39 Next show
5:53 Self-congratulation about being big enough to make correction about lane-splitting. Also, the correction.
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Zacks face when Matt says "It doesn't really say how much that costs" is so priceless lololololol
I’ve lived in northwest CT my entire life, everyone in this area of New England takes driving extremely personally. Any time you pass someone they look at you as if you are attacking their character, because the speed they are driving is the correct, and only, speed everyone should be driving. It’s awful
Litchfield hills let's go! Quiet corner driver here. CT's best spots are in the corners.
Can confirm, pass someone going 5 under? That hurt their feelings, now they're riding your ass at 10 over
The fragile ego is real in Connecticut huh 🥴
Donnie is hosing Matt hard on that restoration... Lamborghini doesnt make things like bolts or joints lol. Hope donny enjoyed his vacation
Zach is 100% correct that he should have gotten them at Fastenal. As long as they’re the correct size and grade there is no difference between them and the ones Lambo sells.
Donnie is going on some nice vacations for fixing the Countach
Yes blame the Italian who itemises the bill, so you need to fly over in person to check it because you are the honest person in this 😂 Yes there are some specific Lambo things, but they don't manufacture small parts and never did. These bushings and parts are all from supplier's who do other cars too. The rubber is all used in Alfas/Fiats/BMW/Porsche/Merc etc of the time. All the bolts are metric. The Caster shims, washers and the joints are all made to a standard spec. The pistons/rings and engine internals here in Europe we source from the States as you make the best as it's made to a spec by Mahle/Carrillo and better than they did in the 80s.
@@fraserwright9482yeah that whole discussion of “it needs to be lambo parts only as they are perfect” was ridiculous. They are paying the lambo tax on shit like bolts when much cheaper, and possibly higher grade options could be purchased anywhere else.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
OEM bolts are the sexiest bolts though, im sure donny gets a kick opening the bags.
Kind of runs counter to the whole Bozi F-250 pump same as an Aston pump story....
That cab ride story gave me so much anxiety 😂
All i took from that is buddy is scared to get in a car with someone without a mask lol
My numb thigh was my first symptom of MS. I also went to WWWY, heavy hydration and pumas with soft foam soles saved my life. Take breaks as often as possible. My wife and I both have autoimmune diseases that take the life out of us. With preparations and common sense we did just fine. Too many much younger and healthier people complaining that they can't hang anymore 😂.
So technically didn't need the retraction/correction, but it's sad when automotive journalists have the most journalistic integrity nowadays
The %slope basically means for every metre forward how many up have you gone, 45 degrees is 1 to 1 so 100%
12% slope means for every 100 feet traveled you decrease/increase in elevation 12 feet 🤷♂️
@@Grundle_ItcH085 thanks to converting that to American for me
@@mcspikesky "converted to American" they literally changed the word metres to feet 😂
@@ABoringToolby “American” he meant “Freedom Units”.
Pop-ups are Awesome! You can hide them away and make it look sleek and smooth and then when they pop up the car gets so much character and literally comes to life!
BOSS 302 guy -- Just throw shocks on it. NA? Tune, E85, LU47s, headers. 75hp, will absolutely rip. FI: 2.3L TVS blower (Roush or Edlebrock) is big fun with an aftermarket tune. A Vortech or Paxton on a Boss....fuel system away from 800rwhp
Agree that PHEV is an awesome option for most people, especially for a family cruiser. Wife has an XC90 hybrid and it's awesome. That being said, for performance, I find, full EV does better at overcoming the battery weight than PHEV. Ended up with a taycan over comparable hybrids
Kyle Conner had it installed at their facility at Colorado state I think. They were given the charger as a demo but were responsible for all of the cost to install.
The transparency of Countach ownership was really refreshing. Very interesting stuff, thanks for sharing and love the show!
Glad to see you guys promoting the Play Forever cars. I plan on getting a few for my mantle in my living room. Classy yet fun.
Never say you are never going to not sell something. In three or four years when Matt can get 7 figures, it's going up for sale.
9/10 times I come up behind people in the canyon in SoCal, they refuse to pull over, and me/ the group of people are stuck behind people going 25 uphill when the posted speed limit is 40, and the caution for turns is 30.
Or even worse, is people riding their brakes the whole way down the hill going 30.
I love the podcast guys but too often you’re incorrect about quickly googleable stuff. Today’s was a simple one, Kyle Connor DID NOT get a DC charger at his house. It’s being installed at his office which is at a school that already has the power it needs. Last one was teslas wraps being way too expensive, but you missed that they’re actually PPF also which makes it way more reasonably priced. I’m all for some Elon bashing but make it make sense
One of the best car/driving songs is Radar Love by Golden Earring.
There’s also the note for the Lamborghini, that it basically will have a completely new chassis as well as refreshed engine. And the value of documentation of the entire rebuild the whole way. It would probably bring 800-900k minimum on cars and bids when it’s done and only go up from there. Matt brought up a great point with a “Classics” center that would be able to deal with this. If you owned one you could probably get an equity loan on it if it was paid off and you didn’t have all the money.
Lol - last night I missed my connecting train home so instead of waiting an hour I race out to get the first taxi. Turns out that taxi was basically same 10% throttle guy, 5mph under the limit! Got home at 10pm just the same.
Fixxxer is the undisputed best song on Reload.
Re M8 Comp: Dudes in Miami who want the most powerful car BMW makes to drive on straight, 7 lane highways with well maintained roads. Many of them have and continue to hit top speed on late night rides, circling the city.
Yeah 100 percent a Miami / South Florida highway car
XM is the most powerful car BMW makes (unfortunately!)
@@monsieurdildo I refuse to acknowledge its existence, 🤣🤣🤣
Holy crap i dont watch the podcast enough and i may be way late but congrats on the nascar sponsorship. Y'all getting those FIA bucks now. Who's here for matt and zack doing color commentary at le mans
How much better does Zak feel about being an owner of an E46 M3 high mileage daily driver after sitting across the table from Matt and listening to Countach upkeep?
Cool to see Matt rocking the Tactile Turn pen.
Prompt arrival gang
dang straight
That parts bill sounds exactly like the one i write our customers to repair their jets... Qty 10/20 is always suspect, 99% sure he actually needs 6 or 7 and fills his stock on your bill
You don't have to install new infrastructure to get a DC fast charger. The EV charging market is the Wild West right now, with sooo many companies trying new things. There is a company that is taking recycled Nissan Leaf batteries, and putting them in a gas pump sized cabinet. They are using off peak hours to charge the battery pack, and then using the charged pack to DC fast charge. Lower installation and product costs, but obviously can only DC charge a handful of cars before a "recharge" of the pack is required. A good use case where installation costs are "sensitive" or where you may not expect to use the charger regularly
I was just up in the Catskills last weekend with my Blackwing. Drove some great roads near Woodstock incl Pepaction Reservoir. Do you have any road recommendations?
Matt why not taken the Aston on one of the east coast R @T drives I'm sure you want more seat time in it
Texas used to allow, or at least look the other way, in regards to lane splitting. However thanks to riders being A-Holes by splitting lanes at high speeds etc, motorists complained loudly enough that it is now officially illegal.
I have a fiesta st with about 98k. Nothing ever really breaks on this car. Only issue is the annoying fan motor noise and there's been an issue with it registering a door is closed
I love the Dutch way of lane splitting. If the traffic on the highway drives under 40km/h (24mph) a motorcycle can drive between the fast lane and the middle/slow lane. But only 10km/h(6mph) faster than the cars.
You should get all those parts and get them properly replicatet and make a "Matts Suspension Refresh kit"
Fast chargers could simply be set to 80% max, especially in high traffic areas with many stations on long distance routes.
For slow charging at 11 kW or 22 kW, just hop over to one of those. Hard idle charge if you're sitting at 80% or charging beyond it. On a road trip, you can usually leave at 60% and make the next charger driving high pace.
what do you think of the standard BMW 840i gran coupe for a daily?? I'm looking for a interesting (good) looking daily that will do the toddler run. Everyone in Orlando has bunch of M3's, TLX TypeS and Audi S5's.....
Jayz for sure needs to come on the show!
Thanks for sharing the interesting details and price of parts Matt. I feel for you man -- that car is a great investment.
I always charge to 100% We get charged idle time in our region, however, it has become a bit of problem for me because the chargers often finish earlier than predicted.
Hate an early finish this time of year
As another note; to be a fly in the window of the m8 for that drive would have been wonderful.
I love Pigeon Forge honestly in the States tn, ga, va, wv, and nc area is so perfect.
Yeah man I mean I get it because it's a classic Lamborghini but you're driving it it's not like it's a delivery miles Muira SV or something. I would say there's probably plenty of modern aftermarket shit that would make that Countach drive even better than originally. Which in some ways is a low bar lol. (Edit: Maybe im wrong, on miles etc, and the aftermarket stuff thats actual quality etc - i know it is a low production/small market car. But its suspension, not an original motor with some wacky ass piston design or something yeah? Maybe i just need to see a vid on Countach suspension lmao)
Matt find me that C6 ZR1 for $60-70k… most I see are 6 figures by now
% Grade is just the ratio of rise over run times 100% or in other words the tangent of the angle between the slope and horizontal times 100%. At 45 degrees the rise and run would be equal so the grade would be 100%.
How does lane splitting contribute to road accidents and injuries?
I’m building an Integra for track right now. $50K would complete every single part I need and more sheeesh 😂
I dropped to my knees and prayed to the baby Jesus that I could have the same problems as Matt has , getting parts for my half million dollar Lamborghini.
Funny, I thought the same thing about @speedycops Zip line. But it worked great! Have him show you the video!
Same platform - JLR. Jag XE saloon to F pace to Range Rover Velar. All same platform
What was the name of breakfast joint in Knoxville?
Yet here in Florida, those New York drivers don't want the same poor attitude towards them.
Holy moly. Are Italian classics really that worth it?
100% grade is only 45 degrees. % of slope is straight rise over run.
Oh man, when it comes to "automotive rap" 😂🤣 you have Sir mix a lot, Ludacris, UGK, Southern hip Hop in general. There’s more I can’t think of at the moment.. but you also have Gary Numans cars which mix a lot did a remix too.
53:34 😂❤🏁 You should have just sent it to Tavarish 😅
My worst Uber ride ever was the morning after a presidential election. The driver was clearly not happy with the outcome and wasn’t afraid to tell me all about it. My trip was consumed by crazy ranting and talk of doomsday all the while the driver was driving like he had never been in a vehicle before in his life (several near miss events, well under the speed limit, ran a red light, the list goes on). I legit considered just getting out and calling for a different ride within a couple of minutes of the drive. Guy should have just stayed home that day for everyone else’s safety.
If electrify America wants to charge for idle time, I think people should start charging electrify America for idle time whenever the charging experience is anything less than seamless.
If the parts are new old stock and they're bushings, isn't the rubber still going to be sorta suspect depending on how they were stored? I understand on a car this collectible you want all original stuff for value reasons, but is there a difference between "best" and "most correct"? Though with how you talk about it it seems there may be no other good alternative for these parts anyway.
Condition is dependent on age. He’s rolling the dice.
Yeah isn’t this the same as the dumb tyre decision between original and good rubber that won’t kill you? 😅
Cars and Hip-Hop: Getcha Roll On - T Pain, Motorsport - Migos, Waybach - Gucci Mane, Cars That Go Boom - L'Trimm, You're Gonna Get Yours (My 98 Oldsmobile) - Public Enemy
I'm getting furious listing to this airport driver story lol
5% means 5 feet drop per 100 feet. Degrees is just the straight angle measured
Definitely will buy the pen
I think all the people with "range anxiety" bought gas cars lol
And you could’ve paid for my car with a single unit of Lamborghini control arm😂
1:27:39 Every time I hear about HOAs they just sound like a nightmare. Why on earth wouldn't they want people to park inside a garage?
That’s not what he meant. He would have to park the trailer in the garage because the HOA doesn’t allow them to be parked outside. This the vehicle would be parked outside.
HOA’s are a nightmare. They’re made up of power hungry average people. Never buy a property if an HOA is part of it.
There is no law that says someone driving the speed limit has to pull over and let people behind them pass because they want to drive faster. I understand the frustration when people are driving below the speed limit. But if they’re at the speed limit suck it up. I have to deal w/ this all the time where I live.
California drivers are some of the worse in the country. So using them as an example is not smart. I travel for work and dread going anywhere in California. Especially LA and the Bay Area.
Re M8: German companies still putting weird setups on the exports going to the U.S.?
Who would have thought 😶?!
I don't think it's a setup for the US.
It's a BMW M car setup in general.
If you need fast and comfortable BMW you buy an Alpina.
M cars of today are just ugly, doesn't sound good, have stupid interior and have harsh suspension.
There is nothing special about an ac wall charger. Its no more than a basic communication protocol and a contactor (switch)
Are speed limits mislabeled, or being misinterpreted?
Tons of rap lyrics about cars including :
“Pull up in that poltergeist” (Rolls Royce Ghost)
“Know the coupe fast when it ends with an S” (Porsche and others)
“Your SL is missing an S” (Mercedes)
“In in the coupe fo sho, candy coat”
“You know the whip Italian, you know pirelli the tire”
Sir Mix A Lot made a reference to an NSX:
"So your girlfriend rolls a Honda Playin' workout tapes by Fonda But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda"
I'm here
Straight up 50k to keep a old poorly built Italian sport car together and running after 30+ years seems about right. I’m sorry but them bolts ain’t doin shit unless specifically made per application. I think anyone could’ve said that it was an incredibly expensive venture to take. I’m a Harley guy, I’ve seen dudes spend ludicrous money to keep things goin for no real reason other than it was cool. So if he can justify it then I say money well spent. If you can’t then you played yourself.
I love how people have issues with EVs, we had a perfect life with petrol cars, beautifull sounding N/A engines, super smooth manual trans, everything was beautifull. Till stupid people started believing car makers and politics that they need an expensive electric car to have a better life. And now they complain. I'keep buying used N/A manual cars for ever. I'll get classic cars homologations so corrupt politicians let me drive it.
Bad back? Stand like a butler holding one of your wrists behind your back. Tip head back to start only. You’ll feel your pecs open and your abs stretch if you’re doing it properly. And it’s free!
Not everyone has a bad back and some of us wants a soft suspension and last time I checked the m8 suspension was adjustable so all this complaining about bmw idk just don't speak about bmw leave them alone they are selling and ive been driving into Los Angeles and all I see is cheap camry's and prius I see more nicer new cars in nyc idk where all these super cars are seems like some people just talk nonsense I see way more bmw all over way more than Mercedes
Matt needs a lot of Lambo parts... problem is, there aren't many Lambo parts.
In my country, getting out of the way just isn't a thing unless there are two lanes. Makes no sense to us. Roads are for transportation. I can't see myself getting out of the way on a winding road if we had it. I'd be busy not getting ticketed on a known "speeding" road. And if you get needlessly close to my rear bumper...you're going to see brake light to remind you of road safety. I guess in California, roads are more a cultural expression of freedom. In my country, roads are all about commerce, a hard need to keep society going. We don't go for fun drives, because the scenery doesn't invite for it. I don't go for fun runs either. Perhaps New York State is a bit like that. Work to do, go to a theme park for your thrills, don't get them in the middle of traffic, endangering others just because speeding and dangerous tickets don't hit you as hard as it does others.
YUSSSSSSS
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You guys clearly have no idea how electricity/distribution works. It'd really pay you to invest some time in it as its so relevant for your job these days.
You'd be able to much better inform people on this stuff but hey, your demographic is Porsche buyers :D
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Isn't it funny, that the country with 1.7 Trillion a year being printed into existence to fund wars and illegal activity, is the one that made as much noise about Dieselgate as possible, made it hard as they could on "selected" car brands, but can't bring themselves to enable the virtue signaling of EV driving? They CAN give rich people who buy new cars a lot of free cash to incentivise them, but not build chargers to make it an acceptable experience 🤣
It’s not funny, it’s infuriating. The US government should not be pushing for the switch to EVs. Let the free market take its course. If people really want them they will buy them. It’s that simple.
@@Bob_Smith19 When did US government last succeed at something they officially deemed important? Wars seem to all been lost and make huge civilian casualties, far, far away. Young adults seem illiterate to a large degree. Happiness seems at all time low, PTSD all time high, debt all time high. Freedom all time low.
Q5's are pretty unreliable
BMW sucks don't know why anyone buys their crap anymore
Take on California drivers using turn outs is usually accurate for SoCal
NorCal drivers will trundle on with 10+ cars lined up behind
EV charging stations should have a “carpool”/Fastpass lane equivalent of a quick charge, 30m limit or something regardless %gained.
Or the stations should be aware of waiting cars, and provide an incentive to drivers to end their charge session sooner. End at 30m and get xWatts free/discounted like the gas stations that offer 5 cents off for entering a phone number
You're all about that Ebike, but you dont ride a Lectric. Typical.
Thats because Lectric's are dog poo.