THE ULTIMATE NEUMANN MICROPHONE SHOOTOUT (Vintage U87, U87ai, TLM-103, TLM-102)
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Simply put, these are among the most notable Neumann microphones in the music production industry.
**Note! Unless specifically stated otherwise, the TLM-102 is used to record the audio track for this video.**
This video is one in a series of 'Vocal Sound Tests' for various microphones: Electro-Voice RE-20, Neumann U87ai, Vintage U87, TLM 102 & 103 , AKG C214 / C414 XLS / XLII, Rode NTG3 / VideoMicro / VideoMic Pro / NT5, Shure 55S / SM57 / SM58 / KSM32 / KSM 44a / KSM 141 / SM7B / Beta 57A / Beta 58 / 5575LE / SM81, Sennheiser e835 S / e845s, ES e845 S, Aston Spirit, Audio-Technica AT2020 / AT2035, Zoom H6 with XYH-6 Mic Capsule, iPhone 14 Pro (internal microphone), SONY UTX-B03 / URX-P03
Note! ** All Microphone Vocal Sound Tests in this series are carried out via the same Audio Chain: Microphone + XLR Cable (3.5 mm Stereo Jack to XLR Cable for RODE Video Micro & ZOOM H6 with XYH-6 Mic Capsule) + Universal Audio 'Apollo Twin' + Macbook Air / Recorded to Logic Pro; Only Raw Audio Files (Without Sound Effects or Software-Induced Audio Coloration). **
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U87 vintage for the win!
The 102 at the very end sounded a little warmer than the 103. Great analysis!
Thank you for the feedback.
Good comparison thanks. I own a U87ai and run it through a Chandler Redd47 tube pre. All recordings sound like a record and minimal post processing is required. I think it’s a great pairing, and I also think the presence boost can be tamed easily especially with the amazing UAD plugins in console so the difference with the vintage one is negligible.
True!
Agree, the ai Version needs a preamp with transformers to tame it's slight harshness. My pick is usually A-Designs Pacifica paired with the U87ai.
very good, thank you
Thank you for the comment.
I could hug you man... nice video
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I used to love U87 vintage. But today I really wonder how fuller and natural it sounds. With U87 you can not only hear sound waves but you can also watch them. Thanks for cool comparison of these cms. .
It's my pleasure.
The Vintage U87 definitely takes the cake over the uU7ai.
@@ZPJ_Studiomine too.
@@ZPJ_Studio No doubt it is still a standard for professional studios. I don't know why did naumann discontinued it. They should reproduce the U87 vintage again.
Singing raw with no processing the order would be.... Vintage 87, TLM -103, 87ai, TLM - 102...In a mix with light compression and proper reverb I am sure it would be this order....Vintage 87, U87ai, TLM-102, TLM - 103. My buddy who is a tenor has a TLM -102 and he sounds amazing all day long on it and he sounds unnatural with the TLM -103. I am a baritone and for spoken word I use my TLM -103 all day long. The high end evens out my voice across the whole mic. I can't describe it. it sounds amazing. For Pop, crooner and soft vocals I use the TLM -103. For Rock or loud vocals like Pearl Jam, Creed or Godsmack (to name a few) I use my AKG C414 XLII because with the 40hz cut my voice is spot on. I hope this can help out a fellow high range Baritone. I watched your separate videos on the TLM-102 , 103...TLM 102 needs a room that is sound treated and the 103 seemed mostly fine out of the box. Of course treated rooms are optimal for any serious studio. The Vintage mic you have is absolutely amazing. The U87ai sounds very "BOXY" to me. I am almost scared to pull the trigger on a 3700 dollar U87ai and might opt to go with a Soyuz FET17 instead at 2/3rds the price. But who am I kidding I love Nuemanns so I am sure I would end up with the U87ai...but like you have commented elsewhere the 3700 dollars is better used elsewhere in a better Compressor, Preamp, audio interface chain.
Thank you for the well detailed comment. It is very much appreciated. 🎛️🎚️🎙️+❤️=📀
Thanks I have the tlm103 and I’m saving for the u87
Why is naumann not reproducing U87.
Depending on the microphone preamp, the U87ai is not necessarily better. The main difference between the two mics, besides the double vs single mic capsule, is the transformer in the U87ai. The TLM-103 in transformerless but if you have transformers in the mic preamp you are using than the difference in sound is negligible. You may want to invest in a better preamp first before moving up to a U87ai. Even a Soyuz Launcher inline preamp, which has a transformer, will make a considerable improvement in sound for a much lower price point.
I am gonna buy 102 or 103 and i will use it directly to audio interface’s preamp. Should i buy extra mic preamp?
@@serdar.saglam I recommend the Soyuz Launcher (with an SSL VHD if you happen to have one), used will do, instead of going straight into the interface. Of course, if you have extra money to spare, a Neve 1073 pre is an excellent choice.
Thanks 🙏
Hi, good presentation 💪, i use 103 and u87ai... preparing to buy u87 Vintage... (i need next 100 mixes to get it :P) gr.from Poland. Artur
Glad to have helped.
What will you use the vintage U87 for? Vocals or instruments? Or perhaps both?
The U87 vintage is great of course, but the TLM 49 is smoother with a mid-forward boost to it. Would be interesting to see you review that one and compare it with these mics.
It's on my list of mics to get.
Tlm2 winer
For the price, it’s a really good microphone.
What is your suggesion betwin tlm 103 and u87 ai
I loved the sound of all them 😂😂 i think TLM 102 lacking in the low end
Yes. So true!
I always wonder how much of the difference between the Vintage and the new U87Ai's is because of all the smokers that used to be in the room when the Vintage ones were being used back in the day haha Maybe they all just have a bit more residue on them
Well, I guess we will never know now with all the non-smoking rooms and all. Haha