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The founder of the shaolin temple and its philosophy is from South India, where the original martial arts 'Marma/Varma Kala' and 'Kalaripayattu' are still preserved by some families.
@J 1995 becoz Indians not keen of recording history...most of ancient Indian history is foreign travellers descriptions while they were in India...for ex.xuan zang ,other Greek at those time...most of India's history is mystery as they didn't record it
@sreeprabhu ms sorry dumbass..Buddha didn't mention he is Nepali or what but his life's work is in today's up,Bihar,mp...so shut up with your nonsense.
What people forget is siddhartha was a hindu prince who gave up everything after he saw suffering. He is not a God . He is a man who was enlightened. Also the story that all martial arts came from shaolin is completely nonsense. China had martial arts b4 shaolin and buddhism arrived in china from india.
@@MonkeyStealsPeach oh no there wasn't . I was just pointing out the normal misconception of shaolin. Its good for people to knoe the truth. Another good point is that kung fu and buddhism was non existent at shaolin until for some time in the 19 hundreds until its revival once china opened its doors and rebuilt shaolin and wudang as tourist spots that teach modern wushu. Same as the many schools around it.
@@immortalwarrior4722 its not so black and white. martial arts have been practiced within the temple since at least the Ming Dynasty. There is the story of the 13 monks helping the Tang Emperor, as talked about in the video, but it was never mentioned what they actually practiced. There are clear records of Shaolin martial arts since the Ming Dynasty, and they were probably the most widespread during the Qing. After the temple was burned down in the 20s, a small amount of monks did remain in the parts of the temple that survived, all the way up until the Cultural Revolution in the 60s. There are a couple of monks from this period still living, and I was lucky to meet one of them, was hoping to get an interview for the series but he's 91 and wasn't up for it. The traditional styles remained in Dengfeng and the surrounding villages during this entire period... those big schools like Tagou and Epo are not representative of the what you can find. You will see in the next few episodes of this series..... so stay tuned ;-)
@@MonkeyStealsPeach ok cool . I look forward to seeing some traditional shaolin as i bet are most kung fu fans are. Look forward to ur next uploads. In future if ur able to could you show us some more 7 star mantis schools and teachers from shangdond . I myself have trained in 7 star but more the hk line and Taiwan line and have found that alot of forms especially in hk line are from jing wu as mantis was taught there by my great grandmaster lo kwang yu. But unfortunately alot of the jing wu forms have been added into the 7 star system like eg. 1. Gung lik kune 2. Jeet kune 3. Kwan ying kwan 4.pakua dan dao Etc I would like to see masters of 7 star talking about wot are the traditional forms of this line. Cheers blud keep up the good work and ting.
Sure! I would like to do a series on all the major branches of Mantis. It's a bit more tricky with the politics though, being a Mantis practitioner myself. It's easier to approach teachers when you are from a totally different style, plus I'm trying to cover the major northern styles. If you wanna see trad 7 Star in Shandong, check out my buddies @Mantis Boxing Society or @Tanglangmen also search for Zhong Lian Bao.
Great channel and videos, saw a lot the last days. I'd like to know why Shaolin from master Hu Zhengsheng is different from master Wu Nanfang if both come from master Wu Gulun (ascendent of Wu Nanfang), but I think this question won't be answered. Someone says that 3rd generation of Wu family changed the Shaolin influenced by Chen Taiji, who knows! The lineage of master Hu come from 2nd generation of Wu family, Wu Gulun -> Wu Shanlin.
I think you answered the question already. Once it goes through different people its going to change somewhat. Its why they call that game “Chinese whispers” haha
Yeah monkey steals peach is correct in Chinese martial arts its not so standardized as say karate and taekwondo big schools . Unless u go to a big organization or morden wushu standard forms of training. Most sifu from the same line even same teacher has different interpretations also maybe studied at a different time in that teachers life. Also some masters bring in previous knowledge etc many different things that cause the change in style. Eg One of the styles i do me and 2 others joined at same time under this sifu . The sifu had about 30 students all up but me and my 2 mates were his closest. I went on to be his 1st diciple and finished the system and the other 2 dropped out at different stages. Both of them still claim to know the style but when they show it , it looks vastly different to my sifu or me.
But master Wu Nanfang says his Shaolin is traditional and come from Wu Gulun. Curiously, the Shaolin of Shi De Jian is the same than Wu Nanfang. They learnt from different masters but I know that both were brother monks in Shaolin Temple and learnt too from master Yang Guiwu, one of the main master of Hu Zhengsheng. If you add that all claim practice Xin Yi Ba but they move different even knowing that Xin Yi Ba is skill (not forms), it makes more confused.
@@hinditime8034 It's not like I'm totally new to this subject. But I've never come across a reliable source that would state any of these things in your sentence. So if you won't point me to one, I guess you don't have sources either.
@@Livingtree32 there is not just one source, there are many sources, that's why I told you have to look up for yourself, you can still learn kaliyari pattu if you go to south India...ask them if you want, they know everything, and there the source would be old people with passed down knowledge about him. Adios.
@@hinditime8034 These old people are all born in the 20th century, just like me. They have exactly the same amount of credibility as me, except for I have no agenda in the case, they have. Also Kalaripayattu is not as old as it is claimed to be. You're free to believe as much hearsay as you like of course!
We should start our own form of Shaolin in America and call it the Sher Lee Temple of Expediency. Instead of years of training, we should only strive to make it quick, because life is too dang short. We'll train using baseball bats, crowbars, and Glocks, tick tock .
35 years in Chinese Martial Arts and thats the first thing I tell anyone. The Chinese love Grand stories and word of mouth can’t be taken as history. Like Da Mo..
Bodhidharma was a south Indian(tamilian)...his name means One who teaches the good...He didn't practiced different form of Buddhism but Hinduism...since both are same religions with some variations.. Chinese must have confused about his religion since he was not a propogater of religion but knowledge Edit: some words theese monks using are from tamil..eg-sangam Respect to Chinese and Tamilians from Karnataka,India
Bodhi dharma a Pallava Prince was a buddhist monk , ie not saiva or vaishnava got it ; buddhism and hinduism is totally different , the former founded by Gautama Buddha , he rejected hindu beliefs whereas hinduism is founded on Vedas ! 😁😁😁 .👍
@@ponnarajashekhar760 no he not rejeted hinduism, he talked about arya people that living with arya is always right thing ( arya people also rejected caste system , worshiping every god ) arya is hindu but they are the path of right vedic culture what buddha teaches
J 1995 well, i have heard that damo was a prince in south india and he was master in kalari payattu(indian martail art) and he went to china and teached chineese people indian martial art. Thats why china keeps damo’s statue,the cave he used to meditate and his paintings as well as a manner of honour. Basically,kung-fu is said to be originated from kalari payattu.It is way older than kung-fu and is considered to be mother of many other martial arts i think.
@@ponnarajashekhar760 Lol , Buddhism was totally copied from Hinduism , if not then why Hindu Dharma was copied in Buddhism as Buddhist Dhamma ? There are many examples , There are mostly Buddhist philosophies which were totally copied from Hinduism and everyone knows that And most importantly Buddha never rejected Hindu Belives and also he never created Buddhism or any Religion , Buddha was born as Hindu and died as Hindu, after his death Buddhism was created by monks
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The founder of the shaolin temple and its philosophy is from South India, where the original martial arts 'Marma/Varma Kala' and 'Kalaripayattu' are still preserved by some families.
No el templo shaolin fue mandado a construir por un emperador chino y las artes chinas no tiene nada que ver con las indias
@9.40 sangha.. We still use the word sangam in Tamil (south India) which means community.
Really great perspective and history to prepare for the rest of your trip. Thanks for making this!
One of the most clearest and yet briefest summary of the heart of Buddhism
Very much enjoy your videos, Will. Thank you for taking those of us without the means to be there along with you. Looking forward to more episodes.
Glad you are along for the journey! It's you guys who are the motivation to do these videos!
buddhabadra or bodhidarma was a indian born in tamil nadu (india)
Bodhidharma is a tamilian , from india (southern) Chenni, Kancheevaram , Tamilnadu Dist ..
"Damo" in Chinese accent . Aka Bodhidharman .
@J 1995 becoz Indians not keen of recording history...most of ancient Indian history is foreign travellers descriptions while they were in India...for ex.xuan zang ,other Greek at those time...most of India's history is mystery as they didn't record it
@J 1995 shakya clan is Indian...
@sreeprabhu ms sorry dumbass..Buddha didn't mention he is Nepali or what but his life's work is in today's up,Bihar,mp...so shut up with your nonsense.
Bofhidharma developed kung fu from Kalarippayattu, the mother of all martial arts from Kerala. The final aim of martial arts is self realisation.
Great video, looking forward to the series. The damo cave footage was the best bit, of course.
Awesome video and insights to the temple and its history! I look forward to watching the rest of your episodes my friend
Bodhidharman or bodhidharma is the 3rd son of Tamil pallava king from kanchipuram Tamil Nadu (south indian state).He is tamilian
I am very curious what was going on at Shaolin Kung Fu during the Second Sino-Japanese War?
Shaolin originated in india because bodhidarma (tamo in chinese) was an indian and he is the founder of shaolin you can just seach about it...
That search can lead to false information.
@@giuseppienad3413 he said truth
@@Flyingkitty1234 It was Batuo not Damo
@@Flyingkitty1234 Shaolin has root in India? Yes. Damo? Nope. He brought Chan Buddhism
INDIA IS AWESOME .....IT GAVE US THESE MIND BLOWING THING.....
BODHIDHARMA A GREAT INDIAN KING.........HATS OFF..
LOVE FOR INDIA
Stfu
@@olafsantos8278 what henis telling truth
wonderful
Great video. I have a question, what´s the name of deity you talk about in 4:48?
Jinna Luo
Nice bro, I like it
🙏🙏🙏
What people forget is siddhartha was a hindu prince who gave up everything after he saw suffering.
He is not a God . He is a man who was enlightened.
Also the story that all martial arts came from shaolin is completely nonsense. China had martial arts b4 shaolin and buddhism arrived in china from india.
Was there any point in the video where we said Buddha was a god or that all kung fu comes from Shaolin or Buddhism comes from Shaolin?
@@MonkeyStealsPeach oh no there wasn't . I was just pointing out the normal misconception of shaolin.
Its good for people to knoe the truth.
Another good point is that kung fu and buddhism was non existent at shaolin until for some time in the 19 hundreds until its revival once china opened its doors and rebuilt shaolin and wudang as tourist spots that teach modern wushu. Same as the many schools around it.
@@immortalwarrior4722 its not so black and white. martial arts have been practiced within the temple since at least the Ming Dynasty. There is the story of the 13 monks helping the Tang Emperor, as talked about in the video, but it was never mentioned what they actually practiced. There are clear records of Shaolin martial arts since the Ming Dynasty, and they were probably the most widespread during the Qing. After the temple was burned down in the 20s, a small amount of monks did remain in the parts of the temple that survived, all the way up until the Cultural Revolution in the 60s. There are a couple of monks from this period still living, and I was lucky to meet one of them, was hoping to get an interview for the series but he's 91 and wasn't up for it. The traditional styles remained in Dengfeng and the surrounding villages during this entire period... those big schools like Tagou and Epo are not representative of the what you can find. You will see in the next few episodes of this series..... so stay tuned ;-)
@@MonkeyStealsPeach ok cool . I look forward to seeing some traditional shaolin as i bet are most kung fu fans are.
Look forward to ur next uploads.
In future if ur able to could you show us some more 7 star mantis schools and teachers from shangdond .
I myself have trained in 7 star but more the hk line and Taiwan line and have found that alot of forms especially in hk line are from jing wu as mantis was taught there by my great grandmaster lo kwang yu.
But unfortunately alot of the jing wu forms have been added into the 7 star system like eg.
1. Gung lik kune
2. Jeet kune
3. Kwan ying kwan
4.pakua dan dao
Etc
I would like to see masters of 7 star talking about wot are the traditional forms of this line.
Cheers blud keep up the good work and ting.
Sure! I would like to do a series on all the major branches of Mantis. It's a bit more tricky with the politics though, being a Mantis practitioner myself. It's easier to approach teachers when you are from a totally different style, plus I'm trying to cover the major northern styles.
If you wanna see trad 7 Star in Shandong, check out my buddies @Mantis Boxing Society or @Tanglangmen also search for Zhong Lian Bao.
Great channel and videos, saw a lot the last days. I'd like to know why Shaolin from master Hu Zhengsheng is different from master Wu Nanfang if both come from master Wu Gulun (ascendent of Wu Nanfang), but I think this question won't be answered. Someone says that 3rd generation of Wu family changed the Shaolin influenced by Chen Taiji, who knows! The lineage of master Hu come from 2nd generation of Wu family, Wu Gulun -> Wu Shanlin.
I think you answered the question already. Once it goes through different people its going to change somewhat. Its why they call that game “Chinese whispers” haha
Yeah monkey steals peach is correct in Chinese martial arts its not so standardized as say karate and taekwondo big schools . Unless u go to a big organization or morden wushu standard forms of training. Most sifu from the same line even same teacher has different interpretations also maybe studied at a different time in that teachers life. Also some masters bring in previous knowledge etc many different things that cause the change in style.
Eg
One of the styles i do me and 2 others joined at same time under this sifu . The sifu had about 30 students all up but me and my 2 mates were his closest. I went on to be his 1st diciple and finished the system and the other 2 dropped out at different stages. Both of them still claim to know the style but when they show it , it looks vastly different to my sifu or me.
But master Wu Nanfang says his Shaolin is traditional and come from Wu Gulun. Curiously, the Shaolin of Shi De Jian is the same than Wu Nanfang. They learnt from different masters but I know that both were brother monks in Shaolin Temple and learnt too from master Yang Guiwu, one of the main master of Hu Zhengsheng. If you add that all claim practice Xin Yi Ba but they move different even knowing that Xin Yi Ba is skill (not forms), it makes more confused.
@@Tricroman ok. Well i not sure then.
@@immortalwarrior4722 a
Excellent
Nice buddy
He was south Indian
bodhi dharma is from India Tamil Nadu
bodidharma was South Indian, and knew kaliyari pattu, which later transformed into Kung Fu
Sources?
@@Livingtree32 check yourself, no matter what I say you are not gonna believe me anyway so please search yourself.
@@hinditime8034 It's not like I'm totally new to this subject. But I've never come across a reliable source that would state any of these things in your sentence. So if you won't point me to one, I guess you don't have sources either.
@@Livingtree32 there is not just one source, there are many sources, that's why I told you have to look up for yourself, you can still learn kaliyari pattu if you go to south India...ask them if you want, they know everything, and there the source would be old people with passed down knowledge about him. Adios.
@@hinditime8034 These old people are all born in the 20th century, just like me. They have exactly the same amount of credibility as me, except for I have no agenda in the case, they have. Also Kalaripayattu is not as old as it is claimed to be.
You're free to believe as much hearsay as you like of course!
We should start our own form of Shaolin in America and call it the Sher Lee Temple of Expediency. Instead of years of training, we should only strive to make it quick, because life is too dang short. We'll train using baseball bats, crowbars, and Glocks, tick tock .
Malaysia la intha valipadu nangga seithirukkum ..idhil antha budthar padal enakku puriyum..intha valipathuku name ( Tau Valipadu)
Intha valipathuku naam saivamaga irukka vaendum..onion , garlic sapadil serkakudathu..
I hope it wont get flattened by ccp
Its probably frostbite was the reason he cut of his hand.
Dont believe all the bollocks its myths and legends only.
Kinda makes sense
35 years in Chinese Martial Arts and thats the first thing I tell anyone. The Chinese love Grand stories and word of mouth can’t be taken as history. Like Da Mo..
Bodhidharma was a south Indian(tamilian)...his name means One who teaches the good...He didn't practiced different form of Buddhism but Hinduism...since both are same religions with some variations.. Chinese must have confused about his religion since he was not a propogater of religion but knowledge
Edit: some words theese monks using are from tamil..eg-sangam
Respect to Chinese and Tamilians from Karnataka,India
Bodhi dharma a Pallava Prince was a buddhist monk , ie not saiva or vaishnava got it ; buddhism and hinduism is totally different , the former founded by Gautama Buddha , he rejected hindu beliefs whereas hinduism is founded on Vedas ! 😁😁😁 .👍
@@ponnarajashekhar760 no he not rejeted hinduism, he talked about arya people that living with arya is always right thing ( arya people also rejected caste system , worshiping every god ) arya is hindu but they are the path of right vedic culture what buddha teaches
J 1995 well, i have heard that damo was a prince in south india and he was master in kalari payattu(indian martail art) and he went to china and teached chineese people indian martial art. Thats why china keeps damo’s statue,the cave he used to meditate and his paintings as well as a manner of honour. Basically,kung-fu is said to be originated from kalari payattu.It is way older than kung-fu and is considered to be mother of many other martial arts i think.
@@ponnarajashekhar760 Lol , Buddhism was totally copied from Hinduism , if not then why Hindu Dharma was copied in Buddhism as Buddhist Dhamma ? There are many examples , There are mostly Buddhist philosophies which were totally copied from Hinduism and everyone knows that
And most importantly Buddha never rejected Hindu Belives and also he never created Buddhism or any Religion , Buddha was born as Hindu and died as Hindu, after his death Buddhism was created by monks
Kung fu is a small part of kalaripayattu this is indian martial art