yeah, everybody is aware that athletes take HGH, but judging by what I'm seeing on social media, people tend to believe it's not their favorite athlete.
If these lower level athletes can get this, imagine the major names in NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, All major league Football (Soccer) players, track athletes & others? That is why you see athletes going well beyond the prime of their predecessors of yesterday.
I really hope it not true I love Peyton Manning. However after the Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones and Alex Rodriguez it kind of hard to believes the athletes side anymore.
+SIKE ..... the insinuations and allegations are "outrageous and wrong." What the heck does this statement mean? Outrageous and wrong is not the same as "untrue."Also, please leave his wife out of this... poor baby, she's not even an athlete!
+SIKE don't worry.... it is not true... there is a big performance enhancing drug problem, and many are trying to gain economically from it by using well established names; unfortunately for him and the athletes, it was being taped..... he used the names, not just payton's, to gain leverage and it backfired...
+Edilberto Galvan why is his wife getting HGH shipped in her name to their place from an anti-aging clinic? peyton says it's between her anti-aging doctor and her, not a guy who had 4 neck surgies and had to get it done in Europe since they won't allow stem cell surgery in the USA
What I don't get is when Brady supposedly cheated no one believed him, but like when Peyton manning supposedly took peds no one believes that he actually did take peds, total bs
Manning using PEDs does NOT surprise me. The man had surgery and was thought to be finished playing all together. Then he comes back to have a superman-type season. That screams performance enhancement drug. Lance Armstrong also used the same excuse as Manning did in his response.
sephius1999 Virtually no athlete using something surprises me, least of all the NFL. It doesn't change how I view Manning in the least, but it's been the reality in sports for decades. QB is one of the few positions outside of kicker I could see a few traditional QBs clean, but recovery and aging are two primary reasons for using. People still think only in terms of bulking up with PEDs. I'd be shocked if Brett Favre didn't use some form of steroid/testosterone or HGH just like Manning.
+Marcos 989 well know, ive just done my research "Sly told ESPN Saturday night that he recanted his story to Al Jazeera when he realized that they had used information he had "made up" to Liam Collins, a British hurdler and the undercover reporter who he says was trying to get into the supplementation business." People want successful people to fail so bad they'll believe anything
+Aizen Sosuke It's obvious his recantation was scripted, but that doesn't mean he was paid to do it. It's possible it was done to avoid any lawsuits that could have been coming to him otherwise.
+U zaidan Right,.. they're only fibbing, Right? Their not stacking the deck to increase their wealth. In layman's terms, that sound a lot like the Banksters.
+U zaidan Ok tough guy, you get your kid on a doping program to do well enough to get into a D1 ball program. What dope are you going to start your kid on? Please tell us tough guy.
Peyton manning once delivered a papa johns pizza to my house, then when I didn't tip him he threw a signed standard issue NFL football threw my window, such a bro.
+Romie Hinz hey sorry for not getting back to you sooner just getting over the super bowl championship, but hey good luck with that backup for a few weeks hahaha
+JaCab24 It was more disappointing that they didn't produce one piece of corroborating evidence that a single one of the big names actually did anything wrong. Of course, I don't assume anyone did; and, in fact, given the money involved it's probably safe to assume that many are. However, you need to back up claims like that, yet all they did was contact the people and ask them if they would like to comment.
+James Davis While it could be true. I think that Sly was just joking while he made those claims. Personally, I've said things like that before completely seriously to my ffriendsas a joke, but I would immediately retract that statement if it was recorded. He ddidn'tkniw he was being recorded, said something he shouldn't have, then apologized for what he said, in a professional, serious manner. Maybe there are drugs and enhancements being used, but I have serious doubts Sly was a part of it.
+James Davis where is Jeter mentioned in the video? I did not watch every minute of this, but I did see the baseball part, and only Teagarden, Howard and Zimmerman are mentioned.
+Adam Simpson In other words, you haven't paid attention. They already have. But your childish bigotry tells you they haven't. You'll listen t that before you bother with reality, right little kiddie?
+William Bowman Plenty of lazy commenters may have. Those of us who pay attention watched AJ do an investigation of slavery and the WC a couple years ago. What's off limits is you bothering to find out whether your childish and hate-driven assumptions have any basis in reality. Even if they hadn't: you really are willing to ignore the world around you just because of that? If you have a problem with this program, why don't you offer an honest criticism, instead of changing the subject? You're merely presenting yourself as a proudly dishonest and ignorant douche.
There's nothing wrong with taking drugs. It's what you need to do be to successful. The idiots are the sports fans who admire their sports stars. For some reason they take pride in the achievements of others rather than focus on their own achievements or failures. Don't put these stars on a pedestal.
+MV By your logic, there is nothing wrong with recommending prostitution as a career to your child either. What dope are you going to start your kid on in order to do D1 broadcast sports like football or basketball? How much HGH? How much T? EPO? Please tell us tough guy. If you think the NCAA is finding 300lb. football players who got to that size/speed naturally, then I've got a great bridge for sale.
I work out every day and I take a ton of legal supplements and Im still in pain. Imagine I was getting hit like the NFL. How could they train, recover and improve weekly?
who cares what these guys use? especially growth which is for recovery and doesnt increase lean tissue mass. they also have cryo therapy and hyperbolic sleep chambers. the best nutritionists and body coaches and chefs all in lockstep. something 99% doesnt have access to. all this should be available to anyone that has the resources to make it happen
+reddawg77089 Actually, I live in the Middle East and follow the website in English and Arabic. They've been losing respect for years, and the pace has only picked up with their biased coverage of the Syrian Civil War. They'll report one thing in English and something entirely different in Arabic; almost always something sectarian that supports the Islamists. That's irritating; however, in this case the "upsetting" part is that they didn't produce one piece of corroborating evidence before dragging a bunch or people through the mud, both black and white. That would have been nice.
John Sabp Lmao You listening to "black radio" is valid than an actual black person? Trust me, I'm black and black people encounter middle eastern and Muslims more because international communities are close to black ones. We're honestly cool with them. Black people make jokes and talk about the fact that they own all the gas stations, but there's not a lot of malice with that. They cool. But I'm sure you'll feel the same way even on the outside looking in.
It's an even playing field. Sports are entertainment for 99% of people. It's a huge and cut throat business and the only way to stay in the business is by producing results. If you fail to do so there is a list of hundreds of others that can step into your spot. I don't understand why people just don't get over it and realize that World Records and incredible performances are demanded by the same people that hate doping in sports. In this day and age you can't have both.
a pietro yep. Everyone is on something. All the top athletes are taking a PED or two. It's how they can work so hard and recover fast, to work hard again. Most avoid getting caught because they simply know how to beat a drug test. They know how long a particular agent will be in their body and when they will usually be drug tested.
solid documentary, important to note that there is no denial to the present day from Manning that hgh was shipped to his wife. So unless his wife took it for one of the ailments discribed in the film, then it is a mystery why she received it. Also it is important to note the the in the context of doping when Lance Armstrong was outed as the doper those who outed him were first burned at the stake. Finally it would make zero sense for Sly not to recant, he makes his living off out these men taking his drugs that in many circumstances are banned by the respective leagues.
I like how people want to compare manning cheating to Brady cheating. Brady bended the rules of a sport to give him an advantage. Manning used drugs to recover from a broken neck. Completely different cases
+LILCHEESE99 Not different at all. What manning did was illegal in the NFL. HGH is not allowed for a reason. By taking HGH he gained an unfair advantage because it allowed him to recover faster so manning. Its not fair to other players who have to actually take the time to recover which takes longer without the use of HGH. Cant stand people who are justifying what manning did and saying its no big deal because it is. This is a bigger deal then 1 psi out of a football allegedly.
Doping in athletics is about the same as getting liposuction as a model or getting plastic surgery as a celebrity. There are always health risks and reputation consequences, and it will never be an even playing field. I just don't understand how so many people are genuinely surprised or alarmed by this. It's just another side effect of entertainment/fame.
"Sly told ESPN Saturday night that he recanted his story to Al Jazeera when he realized that they had used information he had "made up" to Liam Collins, a British hurdler and the undercover reporter who he says was trying to get into the supplementation business." This clown used athletes names as a test, dont believe bullshit Peyton still one of the best QBs of all time
"Sly told ESPN he was a student intern at The Guyer Institute in 2013 rather than 2011 as the Al Jazeera story alleges. "He told ESPN **he was "testing" Al Jazeera's undercover reporter by dropping "names like Peyton Manning, Derek Jeter, Ryan Howard and James Harrison." He said none were clients,** and while Manning, Howard and Harrison were all mentioned in Al Jazeera's HGH investigation, Jeter was not." "When I realized Al Jazeera was using a secret taping and Collins as a so-called investigative reporter, I was baffled," he said. "I cannot believe that can happen. That's why I recanted the story. It wasn't true and I was trying to pull one over on Collins to see if he had any idea of what he was talking about." "I was trying to determine whether this guy (Collins) was legitimate or just trying to steal some knowledge about the business," Sly said.
+Elijah Brown Seriously dude, how much they pay you? They have obviously done their homework to put this documentary out and it looks like it was revealed what we already knew...those nfl dudes are on steroids!
+Xander Baggins the nfl has to look into these allegations as I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of digging from a lot of different sources. I'd say the story Def got everyone the story in the light and social media do the rest
If I took this narrator's transcript and entered it into a text-to-speech program then there'd barely be a difference. It's like she trained her voice to be that bad at narration.
+RDAFITNESS yeah it is flimsy, show me the FACTS, PROOF, EVIDENCE that he used these. They even stated there's NO PROOF he used HGH. All implications about information they illegally attained. I'm guessing AlJazeera is losing money so they're trying to pull a fast one to gain publicity again.
Too many organizations would lose money, Nba nfl ufc etc etc. Dont want their best stars getting caught. Same with the likes of espn and fox etc etc. everyone would lose too much money
“Manning's lawyer says the Guyer Institute did make medical shipments to Ashley Manning, though what those shipments contained is unknown.” Gee, they refused to say what Manning’s wife got. I believe Al Jazeera.
These guys supplying the athletes are so stupid. Even if a guy is using gear from you, you don't talk about what others use. It's very unprofessional. I almost think this is fake.
Your Charlie Sly "source" says he worked at the Guyer Institute as an unpaid intern in 2013, NOT 2011 as you claim. So which is it, Al Jazeera? Sounds to me like you got a bad source.
+MercenaryEmpire You need a license to practice pharmacy... It doesn't mean he worked at the Guyer Institute in 2011, just that he could work as a pharmacist from 2010 to 2013.
look at the lengths these men are prepared to go to when there's millions of dollars on the line and some people think there's a difference when it comes to the superheroes of the MCU? Do people think those actors are just chomping broccoli and chicken breast?
I wanna believe Peyton Manning didn't do but I'm not sure if I can.To go from not being able to play football with a severe neck injury and severe neck pain to throwing 55 tds a NFL record in a season at age 37 or 38 doesn't add up.
This documentary is generally good. It shows how doping happens more than you think. But it has its problems, the documentary places to much emphasis on gossip and not evidence. The claims are also likely bogus (still might be true I have an open mind).
+Leo Kupperman To the degree that it implicates a huge number of major sport athletes (i.e. not Teagarden who clearly implicated himself) there is nothing but stories told by a guy that has incentives, given his group's blatant effort to get him to help them recruit British athletes, to lie. Absolutely zero corroborating evidence. Horrible journalism, unfortunately.
+bardo0007 I comment on him on other threads. And, no one is saying that these guys aren't helping athletes use PED's. No one. Because a baseball player that most people have never heard of is caught discussing his use doesn't implicate a single other person. All it does is prove that these guys want to look like they're really connected to big names. As I keep saying, if you pay attention to the video they have every incentive to exaggerate and/or embellish, at the least, if not out right making stuff up; just notice how they openly try to get Collins to get him to recruit European soccer players for their legit business venture. When we assume that their stories are legit we're assuming a lot at this point. Too much to run with a documentary, that's for sure.
It’s a trendy thing today to get IVs for C or B vitamins that are supposed to prevent illness and give extra pep and energy. It’s likely this Mannings were doing this and it’s legal w clinics popping up in places like Austin.
@@robertbailey3057 no. But it does make you forehead bigger and a thicker neck. Peyton had all that. Once the story dropped his stats dropped and he got benched.
Pud Galvin was the first MLB athlete to be widely known for using a performance enhancer... Thus, enhancing drugs have been taken by athletes since 776 BC!
+John Haythorn I did. And basically it's a guy telling a bunch of completely unsubstantiated stories; a guy who is a part of a group that explicitly tries to recruit a Brit to help them bring in British athletes to their new venture. So far, there's nothing to get excited about. Once some evidence that backs up any of the claims he made is unearthed then I'll actually be impressed. Until then, I'm very unimpressed. Well, with their integrity anyway; the film was professionally done (except for the narrators voice; by the end I had a slight headache).
Problem I have with this is that their star witness might just be BSing the British guy so he'd buy into his "treatment plan", and he would BS him by claiming to have worked with many high profile athletes such as Manning. However, with Taylor Teagarden being in contact with Charlie, it adds some credibility to his claims.
Carbon 60, mentioned at 13:50 is available as a supplement from our site. We agree it is powerful as a ROS and NOS scavenger. We have Ultra Running champs swearing by the supplement. But this video implies it is illegal in sports, it is not.
Performance enhancing drugs should be legal for *non-contact* sports. Most of the records have been already tainted, so there's no going back. If athletes choose to push limits of human strength and endurance at their own risk, I think it might be time to let them. Think of pro-wrestling. Those guys do it. They take risks to make money and many also genuinely want to give their fans a good show. They put *themselves* on the line. Many sustain injury and play it off in real time to keep the storyline going for the kids. Simply calling them "juicers" marginalizes their risks and sacrifices.
Hogwash and rubbish……What about the possible long-term health complications?!?! Y’all haven’t stopped for a sec,to give this most serious aspect some consideration?!??🙄🚶🏾♂️
+Randall Liu Watch the report, the claims are caught on a secret camera. He may be exaggerating in order to impress and recruit Liam but he does seem to have legitimate knowledge of and connections to professional athletes.
Just let every athlete in whatever sports discipline use whatever is available out there. Than everyone has the same advantage and no one will complain. Eventually talent will always outshine any enhancement, especially when the more talented one is enhancing his performance himself.
What ??? The 300lb super athlete that runs a 4.4 40 hits like a Mack truck plays 30 games back to back a year and is never on the injury list is on drugs? What's next Pinochio has wooden balls? Shocker
+Marcos 989 recently released less than 6 hours after this "Sly told ESPN he was a student intern at The Guyer Institute in 2013 rather than 2011 as the Al Jazeera story alleges. "He told ESPN **he was "testing" Al Jazeera's undercover reporter by dropping "names like Peyton Manning, Derek Jeter, Ryan Howard and James Harrison." He said none were clients,** and while Manning, Howard and Harrison were all mentioned in Al Jazeera's HGH investigation, Jeter was not." "When I realized Al Jazeera was using a secret taping and Collins as a so-called investigative reporter, I was baffled," he said. "I cannot believe that can happen. That's why I recanted the story. It wasn't true and I was trying to pull one over on Collins to see if he had any idea of what he was talking about." "I was trying to determine whether this guy (Collins) was legitimate or just trying to steal some knowledge about the business," Sly said.
+Elijah Brown Sit down, fanboy. "“The treatment he received at the Guyer Institute was provided on the advice of his physician and with the knowledge of team doctors and trainers.” Any medical treatment received by Ashley is a private matter of hers, her doctor, and her family,” the agent said. They just confirmed for us that Peyton and Ashley were treated at the shady clinic. Why would she accompany him there after a football practice? Why would she need HGH from an anti-aging facility when the country's leading endocronologist just told you there would only be 3 reasons to get prescribed HGH and none of them include obtaining it from an anti-aging strip mall-like business. Stop it.
+Elijah Brown So he was just testing him? Seriously? In order to do that he smears a dozen or so people (dozens, if you include "half" of the Green Bay Packers....essentially implicating the entire club)? That might be the stupidest way of "testing" someone, by dragging a ton of people through the mud in the process. It's far, far more believable that he was trying to impress him in his effort to sell him on their business idea. Notice, however, that he doesn't say this. I wonder why.
imagine how many views this would have if it were Tom Brady being accused. imagine how many articles and 24 hour coverage there would be. the double standard is disgusting. put an asterisk on peytons one-and-dones in the playoffs!
Funny how 1-2 psi out of a football and everyone wants bradys head on a spike. Manning used HGH to recover from spinal fusion surgery and no one bats an eye hahaha
Eh, we're supposed to take those guys at face value? They look like turds. I'm not believing many of their claims. I'd say I hooked Shaq up if I thought someone was stupid enough to believe it. "He's huge. That's because of me and what I what you to buy $1,000 worth of." You don't get someone excited by saying "Jimmy the trust fund kid down the street uses this."
I think i've figured it out. Peyton wasn't getting the HGH for himself, he was getting it for Eli How else can anyone explain Eli winning a second SB. Come on bitter Pat fans, why haven't any of you guys dreamt this up ?
He's talking to a "British athlete", and dropping names of American Football players who the "athlete" claims to have never heard of. I don't think he was lying
+geremy pruitt You aren't. Shotty is one word for it, since, as it concerns Manning and most of the others, all they provide is hidden camera testimony of a guy who is trying to convince a Brit to help them recruit British athletes for their proposed business venture; and in the process tells a bunch of interesting stories. It would have been nice if they had dug up at least some decent circumstantial evidence to support his claims.
+Xander Baggins Exactly! Give some evidence before publishing huge claims by a guy that has every incentive to lie. There's a reason unsubstantiated testimony by a snitch who is talking in order to receive a plea deal; there's no reason to believe that he's not lying. And the same goes for Sly. Everything points to him trying to convince Collins to help him and his partners bring in British athletes. When they provide at least a shred of corroborating evidence then this will be actual journalism. At this point it's 100% hearsay, and as babbatta just said, that's not what the guys you mentioned were brought down by. I could give you a much longer list of guys that have been the subject of rumours and haven't received an ounce of punishment, there was evidence. You see the difference, right?
When he said "The Golden Girls", I thought Bea Arthur, Rue McClanahan, and Betty White were on the juice.
HansDelbruck53 hahaha same
Lmao
yeah, everybody is aware that athletes take HGH, but judging by what I'm seeing on social media, people tend to believe it's not their favorite athlete.
This guy is just running off at the mouth, giving away all his clients lol
This goes on a lot more than people think.
If these lower level athletes can get this, imagine the major names in NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, All major league Football (Soccer) players, track athletes & others?
That is why you see athletes going well beyond the prime of their predecessors of yesterday.
I really hope it not true I love Peyton Manning. However after the Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones and Alex Rodriguez it kind of hard to believes the athletes side anymore.
+SIKE ..... the insinuations and allegations are "outrageous and wrong." What the heck does this statement mean? Outrageous and wrong is not the same as "untrue."Also, please leave his wife out of this... poor baby, she's not even an athlete!
+SIKE don't worry.... it is not true... there is a big performance enhancing drug problem, and many are trying to gain economically from it by using well established names; unfortunately for him and the athletes, it was being taped..... he used the names, not just payton's, to gain leverage and it backfired...
+nikshmenga "poor baby" hahahehehahehahahahehehe............
+Edilberto Galvan why is his wife getting HGH shipped in her name to their place from an anti-aging clinic? peyton says it's between her anti-aging doctor and her, not a guy who had 4 neck surgies and had to get it done in Europe since they won't allow stem cell surgery in the USA
What I don't get is when Brady supposedly cheated no one believed him, but like when Peyton manning supposedly took peds no one believes that he actually did take peds, total bs
Manning using PEDs does NOT surprise me. The man had surgery and was thought to be finished playing all together. Then he comes back to have a superman-type season.
That screams performance enhancement drug.
Lance Armstrong also used the same excuse as Manning did in his response.
sephius1999 Virtually no athlete using something surprises me, least of all the NFL. It doesn't change how I view Manning in the least, but it's been the reality in sports for decades. QB is one of the few positions outside of kicker I could see a few traditional QBs clean, but recovery and aging are two primary reasons for using. People still think only in terms of bulking up with PEDs. I'd be shocked if Brett Favre didn't use some form of steroid/testosterone or HGH just like Manning.
Yea right ,Peyton manning looks like he hasnt hit the gym...ever. No muscle tone whatsoever
@@jenmb2679 😅😅😅😅
@@jenmb2679horseshit, I saw him in the weight room he can bench over 300lbs for a QB that's pretty good.
Brings to light how truly great of athletes the clean players are. The ones big media doesn't shove in our faces constantly.
This guy is a liar its already been proven...he tried and failed hopefully he has money because he'll be sued
+Marcos 989 well know, ive just done my research
"Sly told ESPN Saturday night that he recanted his story to Al Jazeera when he realized that they had used information he had "made up" to Liam Collins, a British hurdler and the undercover reporter who he says was trying to get into the supplementation business."
People want successful people to fail so bad they'll believe anything
+Elijah Brown lol did u see the video?he was obviously paid to recant the situation. quit damage controlling
+Aizen Sosuke It's obvious his recantation was scripted, but that doesn't mean he was paid to do it. It's possible it was done to avoid any lawsuits that could have been coming to him otherwise.
@@templarknight7 : AJ have walked back this but not removed it. They are trash media.
Not sure if Peyton Manning's wife is training for the Olympics or superbowl herself but that's a lot of HGH prescribed for her.
+ttabah I think the drug was not meant for her but Peyton himself , he just used her name to ship the package. This is the truth .
+bardo0007 sarcasm my friend.sarcasm
+bardo0007 I seriously doubt that. Manning is totally credible
bardo0007 your dumb lol
@@rsmith155 LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
If you don't dope, you won't cope. It's that simple.
Indeed. I really don't really blame athletes for it. The pressure must be unprecedented.
+U zaidan
Right,.. they're only fibbing, Right? Their not stacking the deck to increase their wealth. In layman's terms, that sound a lot like the Banksters.
+U zaidan
Ok tough guy, you get your kid on a doping program to do well enough to get into a D1 ball program. What dope are you going to start your kid on? Please tell us tough guy.
+chicharones i gotta have a kid first ;)
+rollofnickles its all for the money. i would do the same.
"Eat clen, Tren hard Anavar give up"
-Manning 2015
Hhahahaha
Uv passed the test.
These guys talk waaaay too much to have gotten away with this for so long. Makes me wonder what is up with this.
could they not have found a better narrator?
She seems to be obsessed with the term "Dark Side." Where's the Sith swinging the light saber?
SnarfBeats her voice is very irritating
shake voice
It’s aljazeera what do you expect?
The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities. Some considered to be unnatural.
Let the hate flow through you.
and a pathway to.....illicit chemicals.
As Ricky Bobby's daddy once said: If you ain't first, you're last.
Al Jazeera is a very credible source of news... unbiased and unfiltered. Good video.
Watch it again. There is nothing in it that says anyone is using PED's. It's a sloppy bit of trash media. Usual trash from A.Jazeera.
Nice job, MLB. Thought they were supposed to be doing investigations like this.
Good job on the doc, Al Jazeera.
+John Sabp good to know that names, faces and dates (some already verified by ESPN as being true) is "name dropping"
+Tha214King verified by ESPN is hardly verified
they got an mlb player admitting on camera to steroid use. what more evidence do you need?
+U zaidan who
+U zaidan some no name who's had to cheat and still hasn't made it.
NFL needs to be fair and balanced, and investigate this matter thoroughly.
Superb documentary, thank you :)
This story changed my life. I used to love fish dinners but this really turned me around when I found out they lead to drugs.
Peyton manning once delivered a papa johns pizza to my house, then when I didn't tip him he threw a signed standard issue NFL football threw my window, such a bro.
Was it...deflated?
+Abi Abraham you almost had it. I think the qb your looking for is tom Brady in your joke
+Romie Hinz hey sorry for not getting back to you sooner just getting over the super bowl championship, but hey good luck with that backup for a few weeks hahaha
Good investigative documentary!
THEY ARE ALL ON THE HOT SAUCE LOL
It's a disappointment to hear several Packers linked to this documentary, especially Clay Matthews.
+JaCab24 It was more disappointing that they didn't produce one piece of corroborating evidence that a single one of the big names actually did anything wrong. Of course, I don't assume anyone did; and, in fact, given the money involved it's probably safe to assume that many are. However, you need to back up claims like that, yet all they did was contact the people and ask them if they would like to comment.
+James Davis While it could be true. I think that Sly was just joking while he made those claims. Personally, I've said things like that before completely seriously to my ffriendsas a joke, but I would immediately retract that statement if it was recorded. He ddidn'tkniw he was being recorded, said something he shouldn't have, then apologized for what he said, in a professional, serious manner. Maybe there are drugs and enhancements being used, but I have serious doubts Sly was a part of it.
+James Davis where is Jeter mentioned in the video? I did not watch every minute of this, but I did see the baseball part, and only Teagarden, Howard and Zimmerman are mentioned.
+James Davis I realize that; which is why you need to do this right and provide corroborating evidence to back up the claims being made. Period.
Ok guys an "anti aging clinic" is pretty much the doping equivalent to a medical marijuana dispensary
Great documentary it open the light to the truth of the dark side
Watch it again. There is nothing in it that says anyone is using PED's. It's a sloppy bit of trash media. Usual trash from A.Jazeera.
From Marion Jones to Ben Johnson to this.
Ny RUclips journey is complete.
I've got an idea: how about they do a real "Dark Side" investigation into Qatar's WC bid. Just a thought.
+Adam Simpson Off Limits! - But yeah, Im sure a lot of commenters here have had the same idea.
+Adam Simpson In other words, you haven't paid attention. They already have. But your childish bigotry tells you they haven't. You'll listen t that before you bother with reality, right little kiddie?
+William Bowman Plenty of lazy commenters may have. Those of us who pay attention watched AJ do an investigation of slavery and the WC a couple years ago. What's off limits is you bothering to find out whether your childish and hate-driven assumptions have any basis in reality. Even if they hadn't: you really are willing to ignore the world around you just because of that? If you have a problem with this program, why don't you offer an honest criticism, instead of changing the subject? You're merely presenting yourself as a proudly dishonest and ignorant douche.
+Adam Simpson whatever qatar did is irrelevant here tbh. But it seems they touched a nerve.
Yeah really they paid a lot to get it
There's nothing wrong with taking drugs. It's what you need to do be to successful. The idiots are the sports fans who admire their sports stars. For some reason they take pride in the achievements of others rather than focus on their own achievements or failures. Don't put these stars on a pedestal.
+MV
By your logic, there is nothing wrong with recommending prostitution as a career to your child either.
What dope are you going to start your kid
on in order to do D1 broadcast sports like football or basketball? How much HGH? How much T? EPO? Please tell us tough guy.
If you think the NCAA is finding 300lb. football players who got to that size/speed naturally, then I've got a great bridge for sale.
+MV , how do you feel about cops taking drugs that may, I don't know cause them to rage out and kill innocent citizens? Just wondering...
+Steve Pultz obviously you have never used these drugs before because you don't rage out and lose you mind, lol.
+MV Well using HGH off label is a crime. So there's that. The FBI is going to paying some calls.
+MV i agree with this. enough of the bullshit. have an honest and open conversation about what these athletes have to go through physically.
I work out every day and I take a ton of legal supplements and Im still in pain. Imagine I was getting hit like the NFL. How could they train, recover and improve weekly?
who cares what these guys use? especially growth which is for recovery and doesnt increase lean tissue mass. they also have cryo therapy and hyperbolic sleep chambers. the best nutritionists and body coaches and chefs all in lockstep. something 99% doesnt have access to. all this should be available to anyone that has the resources to make it happen
Oh my god. I saw this in the RUclips popular section and I thought it was about star wars I feel so awkward now.
When/If Peyton and Ashley divorce.. we'll find out the truth.
Amazing reporting!
That "Al Jazeera" part is gonna upset white America.
+reddawg77089 - Upset? UPSET?? - Annoy more like it. - & White people, not white America - & reddawg77089, not Al Jazeera
+reddawg77089 Actually, I live in the Middle East and follow the website in English and Arabic. They've been losing respect for years, and the pace has only picked up with their biased coverage of the Syrian Civil War. They'll report one thing in English and something entirely different in Arabic; almost always something sectarian that supports the Islamists. That's irritating; however, in this case the "upsetting" part is that they didn't produce one piece of corroborating evidence before dragging a bunch or people through the mud, both black and white. That would have been nice.
John Sabp gon cry in the car!
John Sabp
semen human vacuum cleaner
John Sabp Lmao You listening to "black radio" is valid than an actual black person? Trust me, I'm black and black people encounter middle eastern and Muslims more because international communities are close to black ones. We're honestly cool with them. Black people make jokes and talk about the fact that they own all the gas stations, but there's not a lot of malice with that. They cool. But I'm sure you'll feel the same way even on the outside looking in.
It's an even playing field. Sports are entertainment for 99% of people. It's a huge and cut throat business and the only way to stay in the business is by producing results. If you fail to do so there is a list of hundreds of others that can step into your spot. I don't understand why people just don't get over it and realize that World Records and incredible performances are demanded by the same people that hate doping in sports. In this day and age you can't have both.
Absolutely.
+nightowlhooting
it's all rigged
a pietro yep. Everyone is on something. All the top athletes are taking a PED or two. It's how they can work so hard and recover fast, to work hard again. Most avoid getting caught because they simply know how to beat a drug test. They know how long a particular agent will be in their body and when they will usually be drug tested.
That's why we should just allow doping, how much more fun would it be to see fully doped up monsters playing these sports
time to make it legal.
Dudes texting and driving at the 38 minute mark, not a legit source.
Wow! Well done ALJazeera
solid documentary, important to note that there is no denial to the present day from Manning that hgh was shipped to his wife. So unless his wife took it for one of the ailments discribed in the film, then it is a mystery why she received it. Also it is important to note the the in the context of doping when Lance Armstrong was outed as the doper those who outed him were first burned at the stake. Finally it would make zero sense for Sly not to recant, he makes his living off out these men taking his drugs that in many circumstances are banned by the respective leagues.
Pootin Manning is a total fraud.
Watch it again. There is nothing in it that says anyone is using PED's. It's a sloppy bit of trash media. Usual trash from A.Jazeera.
I like how people want to compare manning cheating to Brady cheating. Brady bended the rules of a sport to give him an advantage. Manning used drugs to recover from a broken neck. Completely different cases
+LILCHEESE99 Not different at all. What manning did was illegal in the NFL. HGH is not allowed for a reason. By taking HGH he gained an unfair advantage because it allowed him to recover faster so manning. Its not fair to other players who have to actually take the time to recover which takes longer without the use of HGH. Cant stand people who are justifying what manning did and saying its no big deal because it is. This is a bigger deal then 1 psi out of a football allegedly.
I bet other high school sports using drugs or something
When they say dark it sounds like Star Wars
Doping in athletics is about the same as getting liposuction as a model or getting plastic surgery as a celebrity. There are always health risks and reputation consequences, and it will never be an even playing field. I just don't understand how so many people are genuinely surprised or alarmed by this. It's just another side effect of entertainment/fame.
"Sly told ESPN Saturday night that he recanted his story to Al Jazeera when he realized that they had used information he had "made up" to Liam Collins, a British hurdler and the undercover reporter who he says was trying to get into the supplementation business."
This clown used athletes names as a test, dont believe bullshit
Peyton still one of the best QBs of all time
"Sly told ESPN he was a student intern at The Guyer Institute in 2013 rather than 2011 as the Al Jazeera story alleges.
"He told ESPN **he was "testing" Al Jazeera's undercover reporter by dropping "names like Peyton Manning, Derek Jeter, Ryan Howard and James Harrison." He said none were clients,** and while Manning, Howard and Harrison were all mentioned in Al Jazeera's HGH investigation, Jeter was not."
"When I realized Al Jazeera was using a secret taping and Collins as a so-called investigative reporter, I was baffled," he said. "I cannot believe that can happen. That's why I recanted the story. It wasn't true and I was trying to pull one over on Collins to see if he had any idea of what he was talking about."
"I was trying to determine whether this guy (Collins) was legitimate or just trying to steal some knowledge about the business," Sly said.
Read for yourself
espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14441114/documentary-links-peyton-manning-other-pro-athletes-use-peds
+Elijah Brown Seriously dude, how much they pay you? They have obviously done their homework to put this documentary out and it looks like it was revealed what we already knew...those nfl dudes are on steroids!
+The Executioner but they used manning to sell the story. who would have watched if his name wasn't on it???
Timothy Churchill
I would
And this narrator needs to be unemployed, terrible voice over on a flimsily based "investigation"
The investigation seems pretty damning to me. The guys that recanted their statements are saving their own faces at this point.
+Ben Clemens The people who made this are Pulitzer prize winning journalists. This is serious business.
+Xander Baggins the nfl has to look into these allegations as I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of digging from a lot of different sources. I'd say the story Def got everyone the story in the light and social media do the rest
If I took this narrator's transcript and entered it into a text-to-speech program then there'd barely be a difference. It's like she trained her voice to be that bad at narration.
+RDAFITNESS yeah it is flimsy, show me the FACTS, PROOF, EVIDENCE that he used these. They even stated there's NO PROOF he used HGH. All implications about information they illegally attained. I'm guessing AlJazeera is losing money so they're trying to pull a fast one to gain publicity again.
what this taught me was we can take things that make us perform better without consequences
A Deeper Look with training yes
Wonder why this hasn’t hit mainstream media!
Too many organizations would lose money, Nba nfl ufc etc etc. Dont want their best stars getting caught. Same with the likes of espn and fox etc etc. everyone would lose too much money
*Ahem LeBron James HGH use in year 20 & even years earlier in his career lol
“Manning's lawyer says the Guyer Institute did make medical shipments to Ashley Manning, though what those shipments contained is unknown.”
Gee, they refused to say what Manning’s wife got. I believe Al Jazeera.
I'll take Al Jazeera over Fox and CNN any day.
what percentage of college athletes are doping?
These guys supplying the athletes are so stupid. Even if a guy is using gear from you, you don't talk about what others use. It's very unprofessional. I almost think this is fake.
Anyone else hear Salad Fingers in that ladies voice? x3
I do
Ha!
xD
D: Great quip!
Seems pretty legit. Manning was doping
I didn’t know that such a pretty town like Vancouver had such a dark side
Your Charlie Sly "source" says he worked at the Guyer Institute as an unpaid intern in 2013, NOT 2011 as you claim. So which is it, Al Jazeera? Sounds to me like you got a bad source.
+Batbrony State licensing records said he was licensed from April 2010 to May 2013.
+MercenaryEmpire You need a license to practice pharmacy... It doesn't mean he worked at the Guyer Institute in 2011, just that he could work as a pharmacist from 2010 to 2013.
#Facepalm
templarknight7 why would he license as a pharmacy intern if he didnt want to be a pharmacy intern?
+MercenaryEmpire He can work elsewhere...?
The narrator sounds like she's 90yrs old.
"HGH you taste so good"
look at the lengths these men are prepared to go to when there's millions of dollars on the line and some people think there's a difference when it comes to the superheroes of the MCU? Do people think those actors are just chomping broccoli and chicken breast?
Tell me something I don't know. This would have been "groundbreaking" 10 or 15 years ago.
This stuff is allot better then what you get at your local gym. lol
I wanna believe Peyton Manning didn't do but I'm not sure if I can.To go from not being able to play football with a severe neck injury and severe neck pain to throwing 55 tds a NFL record in a season at age 37 or 38 doesn't add up.
+Joseph Sackz What makes you think Joe Montana was not doped ?
+Sarah Hellen manning still hasn't denied that his wife got sent hgh.Now that doesn't mean he was doing it for sure but it doesn't look good.
"I took human growth hormone" also just happens to match the requisite syllable count for those "Nationwide is on your side" commercials...........
This documentary is generally good. It shows how doping happens more than you think. But it has its problems, the documentary places to much emphasis on gossip and not evidence. The claims are also likely bogus (still might be true I have an open mind).
+Leo Kupperman To the degree that it implicates a huge number of major sport athletes (i.e. not Teagarden who clearly implicated himself) there is nothing but stories told by a guy that has incentives, given his group's blatant effort to get him to help them recruit British athletes, to lie. Absolutely zero corroborating evidence. Horrible journalism, unfortunately.
They asked the people named but they refused to comment for the documentary
+Adam Simpson What about Taylor Teagarden, is he a lier too ? He admitted the use on camera so obviosuly he can't deny it.
+bardo0007 I comment on him on other threads. And, no one is saying that these guys aren't helping athletes use PED's. No one. Because a baseball player that most people have never heard of is caught discussing his use doesn't implicate a single other person. All it does is prove that these guys want to look like they're really connected to big names. As I keep saying, if you pay attention to the video they have every incentive to exaggerate and/or embellish, at the least, if not out right making stuff up; just notice how they openly try to get Collins to get him to recruit European soccer players for their legit business venture. When we assume that their stories are legit we're assuming a lot at this point. Too much to run with a documentary, that's for sure.
+Adam Simpson then why over time has every accusation against name athletes turned out to be true!
It’s a trendy thing today to get IVs for C or B vitamins that are supposed to prevent illness and give extra pep and energy. It’s likely this Mannings were doing this and it’s legal w clinics popping up in places like Austin.
I finally understand where Peyton Mannings hair loss is coming from.
People sometimes lose their hair. If anything his hairloss is normal for a 30 something year old white guy
GH does not cause hair loss
@@robertbailey3057 no. But it does make you forehead bigger and a thicker neck. Peyton had all that. Once the story dropped his stats dropped and he got benched.
@@khalilac17 nah that's from steroids
@@pighater951 youre an idiot
Pud Galvin was the first MLB athlete to be widely known for using a performance enhancer...
Thus, enhancing drugs have been taken by athletes since 776 BC!
Al Jazeera, where failures of journalism retire.
+Emilio Reynoso way to attack the messenger
+Emilio Reynoso Have you watched the report?
+John Haythorn I did. And basically it's a guy telling a bunch of completely unsubstantiated stories; a guy who is a part of a group that explicitly tries to recruit a Brit to help them bring in British athletes to their new venture. So far, there's nothing to get excited about. Once some evidence that backs up any of the claims he made is unearthed then I'll actually be impressed. Until then, I'm very unimpressed. Well, with their integrity anyway; the film was professionally done (except for the narrators voice; by the end I had a slight headache).
Lol if tom Brady was named there would be a 5 million dollar investigation and a 2 year suspension
I'm happy that no NBA player is involved in this ! :D
+Gabriel Moors No Snitchin in the Association lol
they are all on peds as well
+Gabriel Moors they only drink marijuna and smoke alcohol
+John Sabp if you shipped steroids to them sure it's a story
+Gabriel Moors The NBA just started testing for HGH this season.....rofl. I'm sure they are.
Lesson learned... ALWAYS check someone’s backpack before you sell them drugs.
😂😂😂😂
Is it really that big of a deal? I wanna see athletes preform at 120%.
What's with the dislikes? Since when is exposing wrongdoing a bad thing?
Problem I have with this is that their star witness might just be BSing the British guy so he'd buy into his "treatment plan", and he would BS him by claiming to have worked with many high profile athletes such as Manning. However, with Taylor Teagarden being in contact with Charlie, it adds some credibility to his claims.
If this was out in the open and legal there will still be skill gaps
I liked it when MLB players were hitting 70 HRs. Thought those were some exciting summers.
Carbon 60, mentioned at 13:50 is available as a supplement from our site. We agree it is powerful as a ROS and NOS scavenger. We have Ultra Running champs swearing by the supplement. But this video implies it is illegal in sports, it is not.
Performance enhancing drugs should be legal for *non-contact* sports. Most of the records have been already tainted, so there's no going back. If athletes choose to push limits of human strength and endurance at their own risk, I think it might be time to let them. Think of pro-wrestling. Those guys do it. They take risks to make money and many also genuinely want to give their fans a good show. They put *themselves* on the line. Many sustain injury and play it off in real time to keep the storyline going for the kids. Simply calling them "juicers" marginalizes their risks and sacrifices.
I believe PED's should be legal in professional sports. It's time to change the way we look at some of our cultural narratives.
Hogwash and rubbish……What about the possible long-term health complications?!?! Y’all haven’t stopped for a sec,to give this most serious aspect some consideration?!??🙄🚶🏾♂️
Peyton Manning made 780 accounts just to dislike the video.
Damn. Is the narrator's voice awful, or what? Nails on a chalkboard.
edit: it's actually making me angry, I can't wait this.
ESPN and Peyton's best fiend Chris Mortenson can try to downplay this all they want but Al Jazeera is ESPN on steroids.
Oh Wow, very interesting! this was an eye opening for me. I'll never watch sports again!
once I heard the narrator's hurdle in the voice/ throat I could not unhear it anymore and it kind of ruined the documentary for me :) :(
The guy who accused Peyton Manning already took his claim back.
+Randall Liu Watch the report, the claims are caught on a secret camera. He may be exaggerating in order to impress and recruit Liam but he does seem to have legitimate knowledge of and connections to professional athletes.
John Haythorn That is true but that doesn't mean that he was telling the truth.
+Randall Liu And it would have been nice if they had dug up at least one piece of corroborating evidence. Just one.
Well he dosent want to get in trouble
MrZeedo8 Sorry, but I tend not to take people who can't spell "doesn't" correctly seriously.
Payton Manning singing in his insurance Commercial voice; "I might have done some HGH"
Just let every athlete in whatever sports discipline use whatever is available out there. Than everyone has the same advantage and no one will complain. Eventually talent will always outshine any enhancement, especially when the more talented one is enhancing his performance himself.
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What ??? The 300lb super athlete that runs a 4.4 40 hits like a Mack truck plays 30 games back to back a year and is never on the injury list is on drugs? What's next Pinochio has wooden balls? Shocker
Peyton Manning Cheater...
Already been proven false...he's should get sued and idiots should do more research
+Elijah Brown
How has it been proven false when the report just went out today moron...
+Marcos 989 recently released less than 6 hours after this
"Sly told ESPN he was a student intern at The Guyer Institute in 2013 rather than 2011 as the Al Jazeera story alleges.
"He told ESPN **he was "testing" Al Jazeera's undercover reporter by dropping "names like Peyton Manning, Derek Jeter, Ryan Howard and James Harrison." He said none were clients,** and while Manning, Howard and Harrison were all mentioned in Al Jazeera's HGH investigation, Jeter was not."
"When I realized Al Jazeera was using a secret taping and Collins as a so-called investigative reporter, I was baffled," he said. "I cannot believe that can happen. That's why I recanted the story. It wasn't true and I was trying to pull one over on Collins to see if he had any idea of what he was talking about."
"I was trying to determine whether this guy (Collins) was legitimate or just trying to steal some knowledge about the business," Sly said.
+Elijah Brown Sit down, fanboy. "“The treatment he received at the Guyer Institute was provided on the advice of his physician and with the knowledge of team doctors and trainers.” Any medical treatment received by Ashley is a private matter of hers, her doctor, and her family,” the agent said. They just confirmed for us that Peyton and Ashley were treated at the shady clinic. Why would she accompany him there after a football practice? Why would she need HGH from an anti-aging facility when the country's leading endocronologist just told you there would only be 3 reasons to get prescribed HGH and none of them include obtaining it from an anti-aging strip mall-like business. Stop it.
+Elijah Brown So he was just testing him? Seriously? In order to do that he smears a dozen or so people (dozens, if you include "half" of the Green Bay Packers....essentially implicating the entire club)? That might be the stupidest way of "testing" someone, by dragging a ton of people through the mud in the process. It's far, far more believable that he was trying to impress him in his effort to sell him on their business idea. Notice, however, that he doesn't say this. I wonder why.
He only worked at the Institute in 2013, not 2011 so that's a pretty blatant lie
+Rohan P. (ROHVIEW) not according to ESPN, citing state licensing records. he was licensed in 2010.
+MercenaryEmpire you can have it before working at a company
Lost so much respect for Al Jazeera after this "investigation".. Pathetic.
imagine how many views this would have if it were Tom Brady being accused. imagine how many articles and 24 hour coverage there would be. the double standard is disgusting. put an asterisk on peytons one-and-dones in the playoffs!
Our double standard as a nation is out of control. Being a jock here in the US can allow you to get away with drugs, rape and even murder.
Funny how 1-2 psi out of a football and everyone wants bradys head on a spike. Manning used HGH to recover from spinal fusion surgery and no one bats an eye hahaha
WOW absolutely incredible video!!!!!!
Eh, we're supposed to take those guys at face value? They look like turds. I'm not believing many of their claims.
I'd say I hooked Shaq up if I thought someone was stupid enough to believe it. "He's huge. That's because of me and what I what you to buy $1,000 worth of." You don't get someone excited by saying "Jimmy the trust fund kid down the street uses this."
God damnit.... I was looking for Star Wars science..
I think i've figured it out.
Peyton wasn't getting the HGH for himself, he was getting it for Eli
How else can anyone explain Eli winning a second SB.
Come on bitter Pat fans, why haven't any of you guys dreamt this up ?
He's talking to a "British athlete", and dropping names of American Football players who the "athlete" claims to have never heard of. I don't think he was lying
I don't like the snitching aspect of this video...
EXPLOSIVE DOCUMENTARY WHETHER TRUE OR FALSE.. VERY SNEAKY? Who's interests do these findings serve?
Busted
so nothing clay Matthews did is actually illegal
This thing is hilarious. I can't be the only one that thinks this was shotty in evidence, right?
+geremy pruitt You aren't. Shotty is one word for it, since, as it concerns Manning and most of the others, all they provide is hidden camera testimony of a guy who is trying to convince a Brit to help them recruit British athletes for their proposed business venture; and in the process tells a bunch of interesting stories. It would have been nice if they had dug up at least some decent circumstantial evidence to support his claims.
+Adam Simpson tell that to Rafael Palmiero, Barry Bonds, Jose Canseco, Lance Armstrong, Ryan Braun, ARod, Marion Jones, Andy Pettite, etc
Xander Baggins
and im telling you if this was a vegas bet, im all in on payton did it
Xander Baggins
he def. didnt take this year, he saw the rat hole coming
+Xander Baggins Exactly! Give some evidence before publishing huge claims by a guy that has every incentive to lie. There's a reason unsubstantiated testimony by a snitch who is talking in order to receive a plea deal; there's no reason to believe that he's not lying. And the same goes for Sly. Everything points to him trying to convince Collins to help him and his partners bring in British athletes. When they provide at least a shred of corroborating evidence then this will be actual journalism. At this point it's 100% hearsay, and as babbatta just said, that's not what the guys you mentioned were brought down by. I could give you a much longer list of guys that have been the subject of rumours and haven't received an ounce of punishment, there was evidence. You see the difference, right?