You’ve been deliberate with the uploads mate. Thank you for taking us along through your journey, growth, and experimentation. I’m trying to get better at knowing when to use what modifier given the constraints of the shoot I’m on ( time, space, subject(s), etc) I’ve got to the point where I’m defaulting to using lanterns boomed overhead on casters for quick, mobile illumination that can keep spill off any direction thanks to skirts. Then use softboxes like 150 size for single subject talking heads, and Godox 600bi for general fill of a room. Don’t build many book lights anymore, as you said, at that point might as well build 8x8 to shoot large sources through
@@JoATTech F600Bi Personally found the space light wasn't worth it if the build quality was lacking. But yes lanterns are your friend, I almost don't care I'm overusing them+skirts nowadays.
@@atriux7 I learned that space light is sh!t after buying it ... I mean the build quality, not sure about lighting specifics, cause haven't tried it yet :D. I have to check the 90cm lantern skirt, cause the smaller one is kinda pain in the ass if you want to dial it precisely ...
@@JoATTechspac light has a specific use unfortunately... You could try to use it in a one person interview as a fill, backlight or even key, it can have a smaller footprint, but you still have to mount it on a larger cob light and lose that advantage... It could work with the newer smaller lights like zhiyun or godox 100w or 200w units, but... try it as a backlight anyway, with the skirt to cut the spill from the background, could work....
Small lantern gives noticeably harder light. Light dome and big lantern looks the same to my eye, and already good enough, i think it makes sense, cause in this case area of glowing material in one plane roughly the same, and lantern just makes more spill. About booklights worthiness, i am not sure, but probably not worth it for medium closeup, and will worth it from cowboy shot to full. Honestly i think this choice of the background makes it harder to judge, maybe it would be easier if background were further away, or just darker. Thank you for tests!
I kinda regret that I haven't included second (wider) angle, but this space is a bit limiting with all the furniture around. And I feel the same, that for this scenario Light Dome III and smaller lantern both look a bit worse. Although there is a cosmetic difference in the catchlight. It has different shape with booklight (looks more like a window) and it's a tad bigger. Still not worth it in that scenario :D.
Great video. Thank you for sharing the tests. I don’t think book lights are worth it, I think soft boxes are good enough. I do a lot of stills photography work and I actually still prefer an umbrella light over a soft box for a lot of my work. The differences are very subtle between all these different diffusion methods. Obviously a soft box is able to control more of the light and contrast, especially using an egg crate. For beauty light I love an umbrella. If you look back at all the great photographers of the 60s and 70s like Richard Avedon, they used umbrellas. And the photos look fantastic. No need to reinvent the wheel. I always felt that book lights are an excuse for grips and gaffers to waste time so they could charge for more overtime. Ha ha.
I can see some subtle differences in favor of book light, but I agree they are not worth 20 minutes of setup, unless the client exclusively wants book light and is going to pay extra for it :D. And for these bright looks umbrellas are also fine (although I do not have a big one to compare to my other modifiers). And sometimes clients "know better" and they think if you have an umbrella you are not pro enough for them :D. The book light which is build on 1 stand with a wheels might be better than big softbox because it might be easier to move on set. If you have big set and few locations to shoot on that set, then it may be even faster, especially if you have to move through the 90cm doors (EU standard). Other than that is feels more like a thing to brag you got in the arsenal rather then something very useful. And I can agree that for 2-3 talents big book light might be better choice. But probably then it would be just big diffusion and lights shooting through it.
Those are different types of fixtures for different purposes/uses... With an umbrella you have little control of the spill for example, or with softbox you don't have the size anywhere near the booklight except if uou use very big sofboxes and that raises questions about the space... lanterns are great, but they have the maximum light in the center and it falls off to the edges, and they are made to be positioned overhead... There is the question of spill control also... So, what light modifier you will use depends on the type of the shoot and the circumstances...
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I think umbrellas are amazing personally!
For this application yes, although the spill is uncontrollable :D.
You’ve been deliberate with the uploads mate. Thank you for taking us along through your journey, growth, and experimentation.
I’m trying to get better at knowing when to use what modifier given the constraints of the shoot I’m on ( time, space, subject(s), etc)
I’ve got to the point where I’m defaulting to using lanterns boomed overhead on casters for quick, mobile illumination that can keep spill off any direction thanks to skirts. Then use softboxes like 150 size for single subject talking heads, and Godox 600bi for general fill of a room. Don’t build many book lights anymore, as you said, at that point might as well build 8x8 to shoot large sources through
Godox M600Bi or F600Bi?
I have to experiment more with bigger lantern, I just got it. And I forgot I have aputure space light to test :(.
@@JoATTech F600Bi
Personally found the space light wasn't worth it if the build quality was lacking. But yes lanterns are your friend, I almost don't care I'm overusing them+skirts nowadays.
@@atriux7 I learned that space light is sh!t after buying it ... I mean the build quality, not sure about lighting specifics, cause haven't tried it yet :D.
I have to check the 90cm lantern skirt, cause the smaller one is kinda pain in the ass if you want to dial it precisely ...
@@JoATTechspac light has a specific use unfortunately... You could try to use it in a one person interview as a fill, backlight or even key, it can have a smaller footprint, but you still have to mount it on a larger cob light and lose that advantage... It could work with the newer smaller lights like zhiyun or godox 100w or 200w units, but... try it as a backlight anyway, with the skirt to cut the spill from the background, could work....
Small lantern gives noticeably harder light. Light dome and big lantern looks the same to my eye, and already good enough, i think it makes sense, cause in this case area of glowing material in one plane roughly the same, and lantern just makes more spill. About booklights worthiness, i am not sure, but probably not worth it for medium closeup, and will worth it from cowboy shot to full. Honestly i think this choice of the background makes it harder to judge, maybe it would be easier if background were further away, or just darker. Thank you for tests!
I kinda regret that I haven't included second (wider) angle, but this space is a bit limiting with all the furniture around.
And I feel the same, that for this scenario Light Dome III and smaller lantern both look a bit worse.
Although there is a cosmetic difference in the catchlight. It has different shape with booklight (looks more like a window) and it's a tad bigger. Still not worth it in that scenario :D.
Great video. Thank you for sharing the tests. I don’t think book lights are worth it, I think soft boxes are good enough. I do a lot of stills photography work and I actually still prefer an umbrella light over a soft box for a lot of my work. The differences are very subtle between all these different diffusion methods. Obviously a soft box is able to control more of the light and contrast, especially using an egg crate. For beauty light I love an umbrella. If you look back at all the great photographers of the 60s and 70s like Richard Avedon, they used umbrellas. And the photos look fantastic. No need to reinvent the wheel. I always felt that book lights are an excuse for grips and gaffers to waste time so they could charge for more overtime. Ha ha.
I can see some subtle differences in favor of book light, but I agree they are not worth 20 minutes of setup, unless the client exclusively wants book light and is going to pay extra for it :D.
And for these bright looks umbrellas are also fine (although I do not have a big one to compare to my other modifiers). And sometimes clients "know better" and they think if you have an umbrella you are not pro enough for them :D.
The book light which is build on 1 stand with a wheels might be better than big softbox because it might be easier to move on set. If you have big set and few locations to shoot on that set, then it may be even faster, especially if you have to move through the 90cm doors (EU standard).
Other than that is feels more like a thing to brag you got in the arsenal rather then something very useful.
And I can agree that for 2-3 talents big book light might be better choice. But probably then it would be just big diffusion and lights shooting through it.
Those are different types of fixtures for different purposes/uses... With an umbrella you have little control of the spill for example, or with softbox you don't have the size anywhere near the booklight except if uou use very big sofboxes and that raises questions about the space... lanterns are great, but they have the maximum light in the center and it falls off to the edges, and they are made to be positioned overhead... There is the question of spill control also... So, what light modifier you will use depends on the type of the shoot and the circumstances...