What Hamas REALLY Want - Sam Harris
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Just ask Tommy Robinson what he thinks......😊
It is very telling about a segment when literally EVERYONE in the comments section agrees with each other in a confirmation bias circle jerk.
I liked you guys before you turned into neo-con dixie-crats and actually had a diverse audience.
no need. i have watched the whole interview and Eric Weinstein is talking in length saying practically nothing.
Shalom from Israel
He is comparing the world military power (Israel) financed by the greatest world power (US) with the nation dispossessed and opressed by that same power! Very dishonest and arrogant view!
@@MeytalKleinman Stay safe.
Speaking of the Middle Eastern mindset: when a provincial Danish paper nobody heard of published a cartoon of Muhammad, the Middle East was rocked with violent demonstrations and riots. Dozens of people were killed. In related news: the number of demonstrations in the same region protesting against the monstrous atrocities of ISIS which lasted several years was exactly zero.
Nobody want's to say there is no God. Because then they would have to look at the world differently.
You can't take the silky blanket away from children or they get scared. And you can't take the only book the ignorant have ever read away either. And you can't tell you parents or grandparents they've been brainwashed and bamboozled for decades if not century's. Most of the modern intelligent world all ready knows there is no God. Only the monotheist countries have the issue, because thats how they control the masses.
There has been similar question presented recently: When there has been protest of pro Israel v. pro Palestine* which side has need protection from the other?
(*which itself naturally is contradictory model because Jews have been living in that area long before it was known as Palestine so Jews living in that area are also Palestinians, they do not just identify as such)
Middle Easterns are supposed to protest against ISIS attacks that are majority targeting these same middle easterns? Protest to the Danish Embassy for example to stop the advance of ISIS? What a retarded analysis
Oof, that illustrates that mindset perfectly, thanks for that!
Islam first, humanity second. That's jihad - defense of Islam. At any cost.
Sam says something I don't already agree with: "He's deranged, emotional, overreacting, narcissistic".
Sam says something I already agree with: "He's logical, on point, clear, rational, balanced".
Welcome to the human experience 👍
@@AeneasGemini Not the human experience, just the arrogant humans experience.
I find it amusing when in conversation someone says about someone else, "He is very intelligent.......... He thinks the same as I do."
Ahh, yes. That must be it.
It is of course strictly impossible for Sam to be logical and measured on one topic and emotional and overreacting over others.
No no no, never that. The problem is YOUR confirmation bias, obviously.
Yup as the guy or gal above me said ..welcome the human experience
I agree with you Sam. Not all the time. But in this time you are 100% correct..
For sure I disagree with him on most everything else but he is 100% correct here. The distortion of the reality of what is going on right now is bizarre.
There are few that can analyze and articulate the truth so incisively as Sam Harris, I have watched much of both sides of the argument but his single commentary in this segment defeats all. Deeply pensive and without anger he surgically exposes the truth of the matter. This is gonna hurt.
I agree with Sam on everything he has said here. Shame about his Trump derangement syndrome.
Are we still seriously asking what would Hamas do? They would do exactly what they did on October 7, 2023.
When I hear people say "They're freedom fighters..." the only thing I can think of is that they don't realize that Hamas wants to free their body from their head.
"Death Cult" -> Spot on!
middle eastern nazis
Before and after Oct 7th, Israel have killed thousands of innocent children. Gaza is a concentration camp. What's happening is genocide. Sam Harris is pathetic for this
Like Christian’s!
@@audreymaize Not even compareable in this day and age.
Yes at one point Christians were murderous and genocidal.
That was hundreds of years ago, Muslims have done it since day one and do it still to this day lol.
Don't get me wrong, evangelical Christians in America are still very evil, and as much as they criticize Muslims, they definitely would eventually vote the country to be the way Muslim countries are if they could, they just don't realize it lol.
But for now, they aren't any where near compareable.
I'm an Ex Muslim in Pakistan, and I've been shocked, bamboozled and annoyed by the liberals who actually think that this is purely a land issue, and it's pissing me off, I'm a liberal myself and I've never seen lgbtq people with so much hate for defending hamas knowing these people will literally be called under their rule, my heart goes out to innocent women and children and some men there whi still are okay with the tei state solution, the Muslim world and their real goal literally being told by people like Daniel haqiqatou as he defends child marriages has been ignored by the political left and labellers of Islamophobia
The only issue with your statement is that everyone does child marriage. Thats literally been around a forever and everywhere. Even in the US its an open secret that all the powerful and rich do these things. My middle class neighborhood has most of the college men dating children. The poor filled slums are full of pregnant children as well. (the fathers are always grown men)
Some states have child marriage recognized and some of those were recent changes in the law to legalize child marriage. Many communities of all different faiths and cultures practice these customs in the US. Local Gypsies where I grew up would even have big fancy child weddings. Men 30s-20s and Girls in their early teens ~13ish
Palestine is a territorial war, not a religious war. If you really believe it is a religious war then Judaism is the problem. The Israel Gaza war has revealed who the Alternative media zio shills are.
@@Nero-was-Right🧢
Daniel Haqiqatchou said in a debate that marrying a 3-year-old and having sex with her would be ok, if the girl hit precocious puberty.
He’s promoting pedophilia. He’s not even talking about teenagers. He’s talking about toddlers.
And Muhammad was 53 when she consummated his marriage to a 9-year-old girl who was still playing with dolls.
We’re talking about a religion founded on that man’s “prophethood” and “perfect example for mankind”.
Don't know where you got your 'facts' from, but it might have been the same person who authored '1001 Muslim inventions' meaning it was pure fiction. Ten states don't allow marriage before the age of 18. Most require parental or judicial consent prior to 18. If you're going to make assertions, try to get your facts straight.@@Nero-was-Right
As a Palestinian from Gaza, I'm so happy brave man like Sam & Mosab Hassan Youssef have courage to speak andshare truth.
The faster Israel IDF can remove the Hamas terror dictator the better for my people and for all u.
Please save us Israel and America
We can coexist like in history but the Hamas will not allow
Peace unto all who wish it
In relative harmony, Jews and Arabs have lived together in the Middle East and North Africa for centuries. There is absolutely no reason why the Palestinian people should not live in harmony with their Jewish neighbors. They could also flourish like the Israelis if they so chose. It is just a matter of change of attitude. Hatred kills those who bear it in their hearts.
The ancient community of Jews that used to live in Gaza perished in Islamist riots of 1929, concurrent with dozens of other communities, the massacre in Hebron was documented, you can see the photos of that ISIS style massacre in archives of the NYT. Photos like the gut churning photos of the massacre of Oct. 7 only in black and white.
*In 1929 the massacres were committed mostly by mobs.
In your opinion, how much of Gaza's population does not support Hamas? Also, it is evident that Hamas spends a lot of money for military infrastructure, tunnels, rockets, instead of improving civilian life. How do people feel about it?
The powerful in Israel *enjoy* Hamas as an excuse to take land. They dont simply want a piece of your land they want the entirety of it. This is the interface of two very deep death cults.
I live in the west bank where there is no hamas. no armed resistance. trust me things are not better here. sure better than gaza but trust me israel is not your saviors. The IDF killed 2 of my close cousins, and one of them is 2.5 year old. There is no justice for them, they just got killed. Another cousin of mine, lost his eye sight while detained with no charge at all because they refused to give him medical aid.
It is an apartheid state her in the west bank. The UN, amnesty international, B'Tselem, and human rights watch all say this. Trust me when I tell you, they are monsters.
"Intention is the best predictor of what someone will do." True That. When they tell you who they are, believe them.
Indeed, extrapolating from first principles will also show you not only intention but likely be predictive of corresponding actions: a 28 year old Netanyahu - ruclips.net/video/g1c-DSZ_l9Q/видео.html -
Host: "Do the Palestinians have a right to a separate state?"
Netanyahu: "... I don't think they do"
Netanyahu: "But the stumbling block to the road for peace is this demand for PLO [Palestinian] state which will mean more war, which will mean more violence in the Middle East, and I think, I sincerely believe if this demand is abandoned we can have real and genuine peace."
Unless they claim to be Elvis.
@@mattmyers2624 I am not aware of a two-state peace proposal by the Palestinians. Are you?
it really really is not. every man has the intention of marrying a hot lady.
I disagree with that premise fundamentally, when you intend when you can't do something and when you can is miles apart, just look at any politician ever. But I agree in the sense it isn't intention with these organizations, they don't intend on being abhorent they already are.
You can read "THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS" online written by the HAMAS themselves. They revised their charter in 2017 which used softer language in their goals, but their actions on the 7th October absolutely proves their commitment to their initial charter. They literally state what their goal is and what they'll do to achieve it.
Yeah the lukkud party manafesto is an interesting read .... especially the laying cliam to all of Judaea and Samaria/west bank....and the ludkud party is actually putting into practice what they peach
Precisely!
May you should read PLAN DALET 1948 even before Hamas existed
@17zubs there were plenty of Genocidal statements by Arab leaders in 1948 as well. Not to mention that Amin Al Husseini was an open Nazi collaborator.
@@stephenmcintyre8622True. The Likud party’s agenda is annexing Judea to the Jewish homeland, as Jews are from Judea….as long as the Arab living there will be granted full civil rights thats not a problem. And this may well become a reality in the distant furure
As an ex Muslim , Sam is 100% right.
I compliment you for leaving that faith. Be careful though. Doesn’t the Quran tell Muslims to kill a believer who leaves the faith? Be careful. May you live a long and happy life.
@@dejavu666wampas9Another example of peace from this "peaceful" religion.
Don't you see being an "ex-Muslim" proves him wrong.
@@h2oGrunt - Wait. Sam isn’t ex-Muslim, graviton is.
@@dejavu666wampas9 👏👏👏
"Death cult" is a good way to describe it. Great points 8:50.
I'm from iran and this man is 100% on point!
Nice to see Sam get back to his roots and talk about the downside of extremist religion.
Yes, that is Sam at his best. I tend to disagree with him about most things, but a sensible person (religious or not) has to agree with his points on extremism.
Except Sam adheres to an extremist religion himself. He’s a woke cultist through and through.
I think Sam is a fake Intellectual who reads the newspaper and pretends what he reads are his ideas. At least he's on the right side of this issue
Except he is blind to the religion he espouses- ie statism
Yeah, his last appearance on Triggernometry was, at best, forgettable, and more accurately, was incoherent.
They're extremely clear about what they want. Anyone "confused" about that is either lying about that confusion, or they're out of touch intellectuals overthinking it because they're so used to living in a cerebral place, where everything is hypothetical and theoretical and/or metaphoric.
"Oh, surely, they don't want to annihilate an entire group of people. I mean, that's just hyperbole to make a point..."
No. No it isn't. They're being literal. They're not writing poetry or doing performance art. They're an extremist 💀 cult.
Just like the nazi
Are you referring to the Israelis or the Palestinians?
They hate the Jews for their freedoms! 🤡
Lolzzz I have the same question. If you mean the Jews, I totally agree they are an extremist cult.
@@TimothyDeSomerville LOL funny
Bravo, Sam. The most frustrating part about this whole conflict is being repeatedly told by academics, misinformed/ignorant friends & media pundits, and public "intellectuals" to not believe our lying eyes and ears about these people and what their intentions truly are. The moral confusion in our civilization and inability to accept reality and call things by their rightful name is truly depressing.
And then they use the buzz words like "genocide" and "apartheid" because it makes people emotional, and when you point out how the terms are not accurate they act like it's a fact and you're crazy to even think it's not true.
I hope you are referring to the reality being that Israel is incontrovertibly the one at fault for this situation?
Sam Harris clearly hasn’t gone to the region, met Palestinians, or bothered to look into this subject at all. Unbelievably ignorant on this matter, and shamefully outspoken on a matter he has no familiarity with.
@johanbrudi6752 I'll breakdown a couple of facts that hopefully might help you understand the conflict better:
1. In numerous occasions Israel accepted the two state solution while the Palestinians rejected it. Those are easy to verify historical FACTS. Don't take my word for it, please read on it yourself. Read about the 1948 and 1967 peace treaties/two state solution, about the camp david accords, the Oslo accords and so on. You will see that Israel always voted for peace with Palestinians and the Palestinians continuously rejected it.
2. Regarding ethnical cleansing: Israel population is a little shy of 10 million. Out of that 10M, nearly 2 million are Arabs and their numbers increase year by year. That is the exact opposite of an ethnical cleansing by definition. Also, those Arabs have equals rights and members in the Kneset (the Israeli parliament). Do you know where ethnical cleansing indeed occurs? Literally everywhere in the middle east except Israel. Christians, jews and other groups numbers are almost none existent in all of them and have been steadily declining year by year, due to discrimination and persecution.
3. Regarding the "open air prison": Israel completely withdrew from Gaza in 2005. Shortly after, the Hamas was elected and ever since it's been a dictatorship and they had no elections ever since (18 years already). The reason why the living conditions over there are so bad is become Hamas takes all the financial aid they receive and use it to purchase weapons and build tunnels that run all beneath Gaza. We are talking about hundreds of billions of dollars! Those could have been used to build a power plant, water distillation facility, developing industries, etc. But no they used all that aid from the world for the sole purpose to destroy Israel. Again there hasn't been a single Israeli in Gaza since 2005! Ever since Israel left Gaza the situation there only deteriorated from year to year despite receiving hundreds of billions.
4. Regarding genocide: Hamas' goal is literally to commit a genocide as stated by their own charter! On the other hand, if Israel wanted to commit a genocide they could have always done so in an instant. Instead, Israel provided them with water and electricity. Now, people say Israel is committing genocide by bombing civilian spaces. The reason why Israel does it is becomes those places are where Hamas fights from. They fire their rockets from residential buildings, schools, from next to hospitals and so on. Of course Israel will attack the locations the Hamas fire rockets from, which is unfortunately civilian locations. Hamas is doing it on purpose because they want to be able to say 'hey look they kill or civilians' whenever Israel targets the Hamas. They have no regard for their own people whatsoever. Israel tells the civilian to evacuate not because they wanna push them out, but because they wanna fight Hamas without civilians in the way!
5. Double standards against Israel: I already mentioned the actual ethnical cleansing that are still talking place all over the middle east except for Israel. But did you know that for 20 years Gaza was under Egypt's occupation and the west bank was under Jordan's occupation? Of course you didn't know that, because no one ever talks about. Only when Israel does it people automatically rile up. People talk about about the israel-gaza border but no one talk about the egypt-gaza border at all. Total hypocrisy. What about "black september", the war between Palestinians and Jordan? What about the Syrian civil war which killed 500,000 people and completely ruined the country? What about the kurds-iraq war? What about the Azerbaijan ethenical cleaning against armenians that just killed thousands a couple of months ago and no one talked about it? What about the fighting between turkey and syria in their border? There are many many more conflicts in the middle east and no one talks about them because people only care when Israel is involved. People are obsessed with Israel, while turning a blind eye to the countless death cults and massacres in the region.
6. Concluding words: It's unbelievable that people side with a terrorist organization that purposely targets civilians and their charter calls for a genocide, while blaming the only democracy in the region. Not just the only democracy, but the only place where gays are welcomed, the only place in the region where women are truly equal, and as I stated before - the only place where an ethnical cleansing is not occurring in the region (despite what the ignorant biased western media are saying). I urge you to read on those topics yourself - not get all your information from media outlets, but read actually about the history, the region, the demography, the religions, etc.
They really do deserve eachother, these two tribes.
@@johanbrudi6752 The famous keyboard academic johanbrudi6752 mocking Sam's lack of knowledge on a subject he is obviously knowledgeable about.
The fact you are trying to look at it in a black and white perspective and say side X is to blame shows how blatantly ignorant you are.
Ultra Orthodox Jews? Would love to hear your analysis of their ideology for comparison.
The reality is most people think everyone thinks, believes and holds the same moral values as them. They can't comprehend any other mindset. That's what negates any possibility of humans living in harmony.
Exactly and i been saying this to everybody i found not knowledgeable on this topic , they don't have any grasp on the people who are hell bent on taking the whole to the 1400 barbaric era . So the most we can do is to provide them with facts and force them to think .
Its why theres not much push back on the protests going on in the west. These chants of "free Palestine" basically means to get rid of all jews, once you understand.
But people think they mean they just want their land back or whatever, peacefully.
Very very true and worse still people then try to enforce their moral values onto others. In reality humans can and do have varying moral values on everything.
there is so much money in the Arab world, they could make Gaza so nice if they wanted, they prefer it how it is
Israel controls everything in and out of gaza, and they wanted a ghetto.
They DO try to improve Gaza! But those in charge, Hamas, squander the obscene amount of money on terror infrastructure. Such a shame, considering what the money *could* go towards.
Plus they get billions of dollars in foreign aid.
Arab world the GDP per capita is quite low
The Arab nations want nothing to do with the Palestinians or Gaza, for several reasons including the 1970 assassination attempt on King Hussein, the Civil War in Lebanon, and the fact that they don't want Hamas or anyone attached to Hamas coming into their own countries.
Spot on assessment, and completely obvious to anyone who's been paying attention for the past several decades.
And to any alien species that's been observing earth for the past 1400 years!
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
😉
@@brother1ray Islam approves of deceit to accomplish Muhammad's goals.
@@chrisazure1624 Indeed, it even has a name: "Taqqiya", meaning 'lying for Islam' to the infidel, which is all of us non-believers in their death cult! 🤭
You know your view is very likely wrong when your comment is "this is obvious to anybody".
You seriously think people that don't agree with you don't know the issue as well as you?
"It's impossible to make a moral error as a Jihadist. If you die, it's good. If your family dies, it's good. If the infidel dies, it's good."
That makes a lot of sense. How can one claim to be a truthful religion, if there is no moral standard but destruction.
Islam gives rise to Jihad as HIV gives rise to AIDS.
The former creates the latter.
Yup, in their mind, they can't do no wrong. I recommend this video from a conservative athiest. Muslim came on the show, and he admitted that it was allah will for isreal to bomb gaza. The twisted mind of that jihad muslim.
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First, we should be clear that Jihadism reflects a specific religious interpretation, not a dominant one, but if we look at the specific religious interpretation that gets us to Jihadism, it actually layers in not only Islamic texts (Qur'an, Hadith, Sira, Tafseer, etc.) but revolution-oriented political texts from the West like the Communist Manifesto. The way this works is almost like taking the Communist Manifesto as an ad-lib and removing all references to Communism and replacing them with Islamic notions. See the phases of Communism simplified below and you will notice that Phase 1 requires total destruction in order to eventually create the utopia imagined in Phase 3. It just happens that the Jihadist utopia looks a lot more like Taliban Afghanistan than a class-less society.
COMMUNISM
Phase 1: A revolution must take place in order to overthrow the existing government. Marx emphasized the need for total destruction of the existing system in order to move on to Phase 2.
Phase 2: A dictator or elite leader (or leaders) must gain absolute control over the proletariat. During this phase, the new government exerts absolute control over the common citizen's personal choices - including his or her education, religion, employment and even marriage. Collectivization of property and wealth must also take place.
Phase 3: Achievement of utopia. This phase has never been attained because it requires that all noncommunists be destroyed in order for the Communist Party to achieve supreme equality. In a Marxist utopia, everyone would happily share property and wealth, free from the restrictions that class-based systems require. The government would control all means of production so that the one-class system would remain constant, with no possibility of any middle-class citizens rising back to the top.
JIHADISM
Phase 1: A revolution must take place in order to overthrow the existing secular and quasi-secular governments that are insufficiently religious. These systems must be totally destroyed in order to move on to Phase 2.
Phase 2: A dictator or elite leader (or leaders) must gain absolute control over the population. During this phase, the new government exerts absolute control over the common citizen's personal choices - including his or her education, religion, employment and even marriage. Shari'a becomes the exclusive form of law and creates "peace".
Phase 3: Achievement of utopia. This phase has never been attained because it requires that all non-Jihadists be destroyed in order for Shari'a to be implemented in all aspects of life without challenge. In a Jihadist utopia, everyone would happily submit to the classes and relationships that God has ordained through Islamic texts. The government would control all means of enforcement so that Shari'a system would remain constant, with no possibility of any moderate Muslims or Non-Muslims rising back to the top.
@@oremfrienThe difference though between communism and jihad is that communism still remains somewhat rational by not believing in sky fairies and an afterlife. Islam though has the zealotry of communism as well as beliefs in martyrdom and an afterlife. Life matters to communists; life doesn't matter to jihadists. In fact death matters more to the latter - and this makes it very difficult to deal with.
@@Fomites I would agree with you that Communism is much more materialist and this makes Communist states easier to deal with than Jihadist ones, especially on issues concerning war and nuclear weapons. The only point that I was making was that the destructive political beliefs of Jihadism are not mostly Islamic, but based on Western "revolutionism" -- the idea that society can be purified and directed to a utopia through revolution (most prominently seen in the West with Communism, but also existent in other political ideologies -- such as Jefferson's belief that the US would need a cleansing revolution every 20 years or Ataturk's belief in İnkılapçılık). Despite Jihadists' claim to be a traditional implementation of Islamic Law, regimes such as they would create are actually extremely rare in pre-20th Century Islamic history because of this revolutionism and the unification of religious theocracy and temporal authority in one person or one group of people as opposed to two competing branches of authority.
Thank you Sam for sharing facts. Appreciate it a lot from Israel 🇮🇱
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Wow! Explaining it the way it is.
The world is witnessing the inevitable consequences of a death cult and yet it refuses to acknowledge it.
Thank you Sam for telling it like it is.
And yet, Merica, My America, has killed far many more middle easterners than Hamas and Israel. Are we a death cult???
FAFO
Right because Sam hasn't proven himself to be in a death cult , and a pathological liar over the last 20 years.
You keep supporting the deep state war pigs and soon we'll all find out.
100%
Can you name any other religion that killed 50million people after WW2 than ''freedom & democracy''
Sam forgot to tell you about that part.
that one cup, not on the coaster, is the only thing my brain can see in this who video :p
he got your attention :)
you are talking about people who most of them celebrated the 9/11. so yeah.
right. They also celebrated while hamas was butchering kids. And also they warmly welcomed hamas boys who returned to gaza after killing kids in israel.
Sam has always had a logical stance on Islam.
If he could only apply this equally to Trump.
@@AlteraLin What has he said that's not logical about Trump?
@@Jakethesnake3636watch his first Triggernometery interview. He doesn’t use logic.
@@GarryAndrews_ Give me an example
@@Jakethesnake3636 I'm paraphrasing, but he compared Trump winning the election to a meteorite about to destroy the Earth, so anything that's done to avoid having him elected is fair game, including (his example, not mine) if Joe Biden had kids in his basement and was doing not so nice things to them, hiding it before the election would be good.
Just watch the interview, because couple lines can't make justice to his insanity.
Sam Harris is definitely the best source on Islamism and political Islam? Is this show a joke? He doesn't even speak Arabic. Bring on Mohammed Hijab...he would be able to break down and give you a proper response.
If you actually wanted to talk about Hamas or the Gaza Strip you might bring on Norman Finkelstein who is one of the few scholars who has written extensively on this subject.
I can't take you seriously.
sam harris lost all credibility within first 1 min of this video.. lol.. literally justifying genocide.. lol..
Not a big fan of Sam but I agree with this assessment 100%. The only problem is Ben Affleck is absolutely losing his sh@t somewhere right now.
Well done!
yeah man, hamas just wanna go to school and have a sandwich for lunch after all.
@@johnwatts8346
And chips
Who are you a big fan of?
@@alibabaschultz352
Coleman Hughes, Bill Burr, Walter Payton, Charlie Parker, Neil Armstrong
I don't always agree with Sam, but at least he does understand Islam from its sources.
I want to think so. But in the same breath he'll cite the old testament as what an evil, merciless being it is, and how Christians are brainwashed as a result of that.
Yeah I mean I used to respect him greatly, before Trump. Unfortunately Trump has exposed his weakness of character, perfectly. But he clearly grasps that islam is a religion of death, evil, and suffering. The embodiment of evil.
You think Sam Harris understand Islam? Dude, he doesn't even speak arabic.
@@mikearchibald-u6g You don't have to know arabic to read their trabslated sources and observe their behavior.
@@mikearchibald-u6g you don’t have to speak Arabic to understand Islam in its basic configuration. Just like you don’t have to speak Aramaic to understand what Jesus taught. The finer points have more nuance when you master the language, but English translations of the Qur’an and the Hadiths are sufficient to gain an understanding, otherwise there could be no Muslims in Indonesia.
"Death cult". Exactly.
So with 50million deaths after WW2 how would you call the religion & cult ''freedom & democracy''?
It's braindead to say "if Israel wanted to genocide Palestinians they could've done it by now" as if doing so wouldn't lead to their own downfall because they'd lose the support of the international community and specifically the US.
7:49 is utter nonsense. You haven't noticed the news reports for decades of Muslims wailing in the streets when loved ones die? Are you crazy? They don't have the casual attitude shown in this video of, oh well, they've gone to paradise now so that's ok. I live in NZ where an Australian guy massacred 51 Muslims while they were at their mosques and only one Muslim mentioned he thought his relative had gone to a better place, all the others were devastated.
I wanna see coked out Ben Affleck virtue signaling for Islam against Sam again
Me Too!
I like when snorted out that Harris was 'racist' as if muslims are all one colour.
Those were the days!
I'm a Christian who was born and raised in the Muslim Middle East. Even the seemingly peaceful Muslims can turn on you without warning. Especially during the holy month of Ramadan.
Especially during Ramadan because they are out of thier minds with hunger/low blood sugar.
Geez you guys really ought to take a moment and consider, that your theories or feelings about all Muslims might be shaded by current events. I used to enjoy the thoughtful and non-judgmental atmosphere of the people who listen to the wonderful modern fusion of comedians, pundits, and philosophers. Maybe I just disagree with the “Israel or bust” attitude that nearly all of my podcast favorites are promoting, but it feels so early 2000s to be seeing Muslims/Islam get vilified with broad brushes all over again. Still love you guys.
@@davidswanson5669
Wow, broad brush? How broad is this brush, from Morocco eastward in the US voting to install Iran as the Head of Human Rights in the UN?
I don't know if it can get any broader than this ...
ruclips.net/video/35eEljsSQfc/видео.html
@@davidswanson5669Well...maybe don't engage in terrorist sympathizing parades all over the Western world after a terror attack. That would be great. Have not seen one anti-Islamist parade from Muslims. None. Zero.
David, 60% of Muslims support Hamas. It is a death cult.
It’s worth YouTubing Bill Warner, who has a substantial knowledge and understanding of Islam, all derived from texts and historical facts and not shy in stating how much of a threat the ideology is and has been. He’s saying what Sam Harris is saying, only in far more detail
"Why We Are Afraid, a 1400 Year Secret" on RUclips
I had Hindu friends warning me decades ago about Muslims. They’ve been dealing with their craziness in India for centuries.
@@ClockworksOfGL ......during the peaceful islamic conquests of india only 200 million indians were murdered......yes i said 200 million.........in one day alone over 80k were beheaded and the skulls piled high like mountains.........this is how peaceful islam is..........thankfully they are peaceful otherwise it may have been 300 million.
It's not extreme. It's orthodoxy. That's the issue. There is no such thing as a moderate Islam. If you think you are. Read the book again.
Israel had enough!
It's good to see someone who gets the inner psyche of Islamism.
I’ll always respect Sam for being outspoken and correct on the issue of Islam, just wish we still had Hitchens around. But I wouldn’t wish that on Hitchens, the UK has become exactly what he said it would.
Sam displaying some clear logic here and can see no need for coasters at the same time!
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I noticed that too. For some reason It irked me. Normally I don't care about coasters, but everyone else was using them except him, just seemed wrong in this picture.
@@sdm6054 Dude giving zero Fs for another man’s fine furniture! Absolutely no respect! Says a lot about a man!
@@nordan00Maybe he was too immersed in the topic he didn’t even notice.
@@nordan00FF and KK will probably say something about it 😂 terrible manners. But it's Sam Harris... So.. You know.
As an Indian the only thing we can say, we told you so! So many times! We are going through hell and they are coming for you as welll!
I have been to India and I feel what you are saying. I have had encounters with many Muslim. They hated Hindus and even India, and at times praised Pakistani pm Imran khan.I was baffled as to why they prefer a backward country like Pakistan to India which is democracy. They have a habit to play victim when in minority but when in majority like Middle East then they have absolutely no tolerance or respect for other beliefs and religions. I used to be a Muslim myself but coming to India India doing my PhD there I had enough opportunity to do research and study about Islam and see the religion for the evil that it is and I left it three years ago.
This is how I try to explain the situation, and that jihadists don't think like that of a westerner. Sam is a bit more eloquent though, on this highly volatile subject. It's maddening to me that otherwise intelligent and balanced people just don't want to hear the truth of what's behind the endless conflicts. Thanks for the clarity and background. Regards from Hertfordshire.
Islam gives rise to Jihad as HIV gives rise to AIDS.
The former creates the latter.
Christopher Hitchens was writing and speaking on this topic many years ago. Lots of RUclips clips. Worth revisiting!
Right, so if any of these "educated" individuals knew something of the subject they are talking about here, why not focus on the actual perpetrator of violence.....Israel. The history and numbers are not hard to find people. So what paradigm are these goofs gonna use to explain the 20 to 1 ratio of Palestinian civilian deaths to Israeli deaths in the first intifada (overwhelmingly non-violent movement). What explains the 6,400 Palestinian civilian deaths since 2008 many of them children 160,000 injured (UN numbers). In the same time frame - 400 Israeli deaths with under 4,000 injured. Pretty stark difference. What explains Gaza being blockaded for 20 years with no one being able to enter or leave. But yes, let's discuss the violence of Islam.
Aaaah...another terrorist sympathizer. Where do you people pop out from? We saw what an Arab palestinian culture can produce on 7th of October. You believe numbers provided by terrorists. Good for you. You are a good little boy. Citing the UN on anything is ridiculous since they are known for actually financing terrorism themselves. You are comparing raw numbers as if it means anything when one group...the terrorists...are hiding behind civilians. Also, who says the dead are civilians anyway? The terrorists?
On 7th of October with thousands dancing in the street at the sight of a dead raped woman, you should have realized that there is a very thin line between what constitutes a civilian and a terrorist and that is the main reason Egypt or any other Islamic nation does not want refugees from Gaza.
"What explains Gaza being blockaded for 20 years with no one being able to enter or leave" - this one is easy. The fact that they elected a terrorist group to govern them. When they did that, it sealed their faith. Even Egypt closed the border so your indignation is lost on me. Israel has every right to its safety by any means necessary.
You don't seem to understand that it is in fact the violence of Islam that created the situation for the people of Gaza. You normalize it when you blame the Jews for defending themselves against this cancer.
Yu don't want to admit that the Arab Palestinian communities have a terrorist problem and that is the main reason that Israel has to keep them in check. The truth is that most Arab Palestinians should have been taken in by their Muslim brothers in other nations just like the Jews of North Africa and the Middle East were taken in by Israel.
You only hear talks about Palestinian refugees. All other refugees have been absorbed and have moved on.
The Islamic world used the Palestinians as a thorne against Israel. That is all.
You seem to think that the propensity of Palestinians to use their own as cannon fodder and shields is somehow Israel's problem.
This is one of the things that Harris is wrong on
Big respect for Sam coming back on this show despite the differences in opinion. 👏
Sam is ok with different opinions. It’s malicious willful ignorance where he picks his battles.
When his revenue stream is tied to his persona, it's in his best interest to keep showing up and selling.
@@adamhaney9447 I’m sure you do the same.
@@skonther0ckSam's opinion on Covid is if only it had been deadlier, then the screws really could have been put to the thumbs.
"If only more people had died," said Sam, "we would have all fallen in line and my position would have been the right one."
So he was in the right in his fantasy scenario. What a mega brain.
Sam has been warning about the dangers of radical Islam since the mid-2000s -- hopefully now people will actually listen
He was probably aiding in the WMD scare to convince the people of america that its a good idea we go into iraq
And Muslims had been warning about radical Islam for decades as well. US gov’t and their gulf allies have continued to fund Islamist groups in order to destabilize countries, and hurt moderate/secular groups in these countries. Ex: Syria, Afghanistan, etc.
@@harryhairo7272 Ya he didn't do that. He's merely pointed out that Islam is the Motherlode of all bad ideas. Correctly pointed out, I mean.
All those dead children in Hunter Biden's basement can't hear him...
The one good thing about this conflict is that it's given Sam a chance to pull his head out of his arse.
Why is he the only one saying the obvious? Why does everyone else ignore the elephant in the room?
Can't be assed to watch vid but how long is it before Sham Harris blames Trump for what's happened now?
lol bruh I used to enjoy listening to Sam but in recent years his obsession with trump has Hindered my ability to listen to his podcast..this dude talks about trump more than the trump lovers lol
Great points, Sam. Way to much noise and distortion in the media today, Israel has the moral high ground.
Nonsense. Israel was created as a Jewish state through ethnic cleansing of non-Jews. Israel has never compensated, apologized, or even admitted why they had so much space to create a Jewish super-majority, and therefore, Israel is still the responsible party for most of what is going on; responsible for deaths on both sides.
Mass formation psychosis didn't start with Covid; it has been with us all along, and the whitewashing of Israel by westerners is one big clear case of it. People are too far out on the limbs of their prejudice against Muslims and pro-Jews to accept the reality that a Jewish state can be a criminal state, and at blame for the situation.
So what's your logic? Beat someone, take their home, lock them in a cage, let them out, lock them up again, beat them, throttle their food supply, etc, and if they bite you, your were prescient when you did what you did, and are totally justified? If they get radicalized by religion in the process, it was the religion only that made them that way?
There is no business in this century for this to keep going on. The world has been held hostage long enough. These guys will literally never stop. Until we can be honest, we're fd.
You are so right. I truly cannot comprehend how Media and Leadership in the West is totally ok with murderous Theocracies. Dark days ahead....
As an ax muslim from Iran, I can tell you Sam is absolutely right in his analysis. The core ideology of Islam as a religion and that of extremists like Hamas are diametrically opposed to western values of democracy, secularism and human rights. Just take a look at the situation of women and non believers (as they call them infidels ) to see the true face of Islam. I left Islam because I came to see how intolerant and backward it is when it comes to the rights of women and the nonbelievers. I couldn't go on having faith in a religion that kills people for leaving Islam . people claiming Islam is the religion of peace are biggest liars and jokes of all time. peaceful Islam is an oxymoron. as an ex Muslim I leave in constant fear coz even if my community is informed that I am no longer a Muslim and I am an atheists, my life will be in danger, let alone the fucking government.
@@mysterymiss9793 Thank you for being brave enough to share. I keep wondering where are the palestinians who live the west who should be protesting Hamas but are not that I can tell. Are they just all afraid they will be targetted and killed or do they really believe Hamas is a good thing?
@mysterymiss9793 Be strong! You must have a great deal of courage and Intelligence to make rhe choices you did. You have my utmost respect.
@@mysterymiss9793 there are two sides to it. Now Israel is killing more than Islamist extremists did in the modern times, and Israel is doing it because of religion as well. Religion is the basis of the state of Israel, and their PM is publicly saying it is a war for religion.
I would love to see Sam present this argument to Norman Finklestein or Noam Chomsky.
He disrespects them both.
Sam is right on this but Chomsky is a rhetorical master (a peerless intellectual gaslighter) and will probably crush him.
@@Scarletpimpanel73 Chomsky deliberately ignores rhetorical flourishes. He's a very plain speaker.
@@corsairdipthong3874 Actually he does the opposite - he points out rhetorical flourishes in others but uses them himself. He frequently shifts the goal posts actually - but he is incredibly smart about it - the dude is one of the greatest linguests of our time academically. He knows how to use language to his advantage.
Obviously he always positions himself as the voice of objective reason and he's very careful to "not play the man" directly - he alludes to things and back tracks when people call it out.
Either way - us mere mortals can't win an argument against Chomsky - even when he is flagrantly wrong.
Me too!
Welcome back Sam❤ !
Trump 2024!
“Death cult” is the best and most accurate description I’ve heard
Christianity....Islam....the term originated explaining Christianity. But it fits all abrahamic religions....
Talking about Israeli forces too? 10,000 people and counting, just remember that. Sounds very much like a death cult to me (no I am not referring to your average Israeli/Jewish citizen).
I agree with you Sam, the root all of this atrocity is islam. You won't find other religions followers do what hamas has done on october 7, only islam followers do such a horrific things.
'What would Hamas do?' Now _there's_ a bumper sticker.
"Death Cult" Might be the cleanest description I have heard thus far
death for western civilization.
after this atrocity I am without thought on how Islam and the west can coexist.
Sam is 💯 spot on. He is clear, honest, and intelligent. Thank you Sam
We should just stop lying to ourselves and see the truth, it's not only liberating, but essential to our survival.
The "Professor of Logic" SH on point again. Thanks Sam . Unfortunately we need people like Sam to state the obvious as the media and most people are to too stupid to get it.
was that a norm refference? 😆
I don't think they're too stupid, but they're willfully blind to it. And I believe that is worse.
Or they choose not too...MSM are owned by leftist, so they will determine what will be on the "news".
Long has gone the days where people cared about logic. Today is about nothing else but sensational crap you find in your comfortable echo chamber.
I wouldn't say professor of logic he's far from it. His arrogance blinds his logic on ALOT of subjects but I do agree with what he's saying here.
Sam Harris is delusional
Am I agreeing with Sam Harris?!? Ok Sam, now discuss Trump with the same rationality.
I applaud you here, refreshing to see people agree with points not the just the people :) cheers 🏆
Excellent and timely podcast gents!
Monotheism (the doctrine or belief that there is only one God) is blamed as the instigator of ignorance, oppression, and violence. Monotheism has been a "totalizing discourse", often co-opting all aspects of a social belief system, resulting in the exclusion of "others". Monotheism is less pluralistic and thus less tolerant than polytheism, because monotheism stipulates that people pigeonhole their beliefs into one tenet. "Monotheism is irreconcilable with the existence in our nature of the instincts of benevolence" because it compels followers to devote themselves to a single Creator. The logic of monotheism ... yields little basis for tolerating other religions". Monotheism anesthetize the sense of wonder as if one were committed to a single line of thought by a cosmic legal contract".
Well being native american I have to say that even though my own tribal ancestors were polytheistic they were VERY intolerant of other tribes and belief systems quite similar to their own. So while I theoretically agree with you about monotheism, polytheism also can be just as intolerant culturally, religiously and racially. Just look at the Mayan, Incan and Aztec empires.
No one brings this up in the conversation, out of fear. Thank you.
Multi-Multi-Millionaires pontificating. Those are Frans Kline paintings behind them. Sells between $5m and $40m.
Sam Harris earned a few extra integrity points.
He is literally the most consistent public intellectual around.
Only if you have an intelectually dishonest, incosistent memory.@@alibabaschultz352
Tommy Robinson was utterly destroyed for saying exactly THIS.
Tommy just spoke up and said “I told you so”, no wonder.
The Zionist Jews were the ones behind importing vast amounts of Muslims to antagonize his community in the first place. Why stand up and defend the Jews against Islam when they import Islam into your country? The Jews are not your friends. They're worse than the Muslims when it comes to the threat they pose against the West with their cultural Marxist Progressivism.
As John Lithgow said in the movie 2010 about the crazy computer, HAL, gone wild and trying to kill the men on his space-station, "If it comes down to us or him, I vote us."
The problem is not with fundamentalists in Islam, the problem is with the fundamentals of Islam ~ Sam Harris
“Moderate Islam” “radical core” Wrong Sam, a dangerously so.
Islam is not just a religion. Islam is a theocratic based cultural, legal, and political system that by doctrine (Quran, Sira and Hadith) and the example of Mohammed binds ALL MUSLIMS to the lesser Jihad (struggle) - the maintenance of the Ummah “community of Muslims” in the Dār al-Islam (house of Islam: lands under Muslim rule) and to fight for the explanation of the Ummah in the Dār al-Ḥarb (house of war: lands not under Muslim rule) until the global Ummah is established the Dār al-Salam or (house of peace.) Lesser Jihad can be by the sword, or with writing, speech and with money - the tactic of using the cultural, political and legal system of the enemy to win connections to Islam until control is achieved. Hadith has about 1400 hadiths about Jihad. Only 2% of those 1400 are about jihad as a religious effort (greater Jihad) 98% of the Jihad hadiths are about Jihad as war.
The Jewish people gave the world morals through 10 commandments, Einstein (modern physics and nuclear energy), penicillin (antibiotics that saved millions of lives), mobile phone technology, internet protocol, desalination plants that will save billions of people from draught at the time we need it the most, drip irrigation so people can grow food in the desert and offered it free to Arab countries, medical advancements in transplant and other fields, and so many other things to mention. ASK YOURSELF WHAT ARE THE OTHER SIDE IS FAMOUS FOR……T-ROR
AND.....Einstein facilitated the world's introduction to The Beatles don't forget!!
We had a case in Israel some years ago where a young traditionally dressed Muslim woman approached a Military Checkpost on the Gaza Border.
Something seemed suspicious to the guards and she was instructed to stop immediately and at a safe distance.
After a shake down on the spot she was found to be concealing an explosive device which had malfunctioned.
A thorough background check revealed that some years ago she [accompanied by her Mother] had been allowed to enter Israel regularly to receive treatment for life threatening Cancer....paid for by Israeli Tax Payers.
Either she had been radicalized over the years or pressure had been put on her to commit suicide and thus blow up innocent Israeli citizens.......maybe some would be the ones who paid to save her life.
To boil this down... the land which was set up as Israel back in 1948 had both Jews and non Jews (bedouin, Arab Muslim, Palestinian Christian, ottoman Muslims and secular).
They ALL had a right to live in that country, but the British set up governance Western style with democracy and independent of _religion_ but as a principal homeland for Jews.
The next year, every single neighbour of Israel attacked (and lost). The non Jewish folk who lived peacefully in Israel were joined by Egyptian and Jordanian immigrants (ie settlers in a Jewish land).
When there was trouble (Yom Kippur war for example) the Israeli state had to protect itself from the barbaric neighbours with their antisemitic militant stance.
The two state solution was to provide land for "Palestinians" in Israel and thus two areas were cut from Israeli rule - purely for the sake of peace. The section called the Gaza Strip was vacated of Jews by 2007. Almost half the population of Gaza was born _since_ that time, entirely free of Israeli control, but subjugated by a fundamental Islamic terrorist organisation whose stated aim was akin to Hitler's mantra; annihilation of the Jewish people.
Israel is currently trying to free Gazans from this oppressive regime.
500,000 Gazans had jobs _in Israel_
And Hamas has 70-80% support from Palestinians according to recent polls.
There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.
I know many. Your statement is pure racism.
@Forthestate It's a religion dipshit. Not an ethnicity. Do better.
You racist fuck.
@@Forthestate no you don't. You know a bunch of heretics that would've gotten their heads personally lopped off with an Arabian scimitar by the prophet Muhammad himself had they lived a life under Islam with the creator of Islam.
Outstanding, Sam at his most logical and mellioflous best. Well edited lads, the whole interview was great but this snippet was the most cogent. I cant see Erics ribbon cutting and annexing solution being too popular with them Arabs, next time ther's a summit at camp David he should and run it past Mamood and hope he doesnt get fatwa'd
This is the Sam I remember
They shoulda got Ben Affleck there. Would have been hilarious. “It’s gross, it’s racist…”
I would love for you guys to interview Norm Fincklestein. Have you already done so? Unlike your guests on this particular episode, he has studied the subject matter at great length (for decades). It has been his main scholarly research since the early 1980's. His conclusions are are in stark contrast to the theme of this particular talk. If you have the courage, I would suggest that you have him on to see if it challenges your assumptions. I admire you folks very much and am completely aligned with much of what you say on many topics. I originally found you guys because of the famous Konstantin speech about "wokeness". I was hooked. I know you have a conservative bent; however on this topic ( this conflict ) it feels to me like you are adopting the predictable "talking points of the average conservative". I don't see analysis, I don't see actual facts. Norm will cite fact after fact after fact. And one more thing, I truly love listening to Sam Harris (being a hard core atheist) I like to listen to him and Chomsky in order to listen to their reasoning for whatever moral position I am thinking about. But like many pundits (on the talk circuit; like Jordan Peterson, like Eric Weinstein, like Bret Weinstein and on and on) ; pundits like these suffer from an inordinate amount of hubris. Basically; like the rest of us; they don't know shit and we should actually listen to people with expertise. I know this last sentence triggers people; but I will only ask a pilot how to fly a plane; not Sam. There is some decent logic there and its unrefutable. I understand that famous pundits creates hits for you and that is revenue; I hope this is not the only reason you have them on. I doubt it very much. Again; try having Fincklestein (he's busy these days) on so that you can at least see the other side of this topic. Keep up the great work!
Sam dropped the ball with trump but he is absolutely right here. It’s time to call a spade a spade.
How did he "drop the ball"?
I'd say he was spot-on about Trump. He's correct about the lunacy of the left, too........and the dangers of Islam
He has been equally clear on the dangers Trump present.
Except he’s not right. Just because Hamas is bad doesn’t make Israel the good guys.
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His opposition to Trump is basically, "He's abrasive".
You can't tell me that Trump was a worse President than Biden, Bush, or even Obama yet Sam is actually like he's Super Hitler.
I'm glad someone finally said what I've been screaming for years: "We're not fighting terrorism -- terrorism is a tactic. We're fighting jihad." Not much of a Sam Harris fan here, but well said by him, and thank you. Oh, and he is the only one not putting his drink on a coaster -- impressive in a way.
Sam finally making sense again.
Well, there is a lot of mischaracterization of him and if one acctually take the time to listen to him directly, I find it very unlikely to see him not making sense.
Have you considered maybe you lost your mind for a while?
@@alibabaschultz352
No, Sam can be a bit of a kook at times.
@@libertatemadvocatus1797 How so?
@@alibabaschultz352
His reaction to COVID. His comments on Trump. His constant Twitter temper tantrums.
No Israel coudln't have "Committed a genocide in Gaza" as the international community wouldn't allow it. Israel exists on the good will of European and American power and always has. America would ensure Israel didn't carry out a genocide. Warped sense of Israels power here.
Woaw, Sam is speaking sense. I need to applaud this 🎉
Well said Sam- as clear as it gets
Sean Penn and Ben Affleck are chartering a private jet to intervene with the IDF ground action and hand out miniature Oscars.
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Sam is wrong here - equating what Israel 'wants' to do with what it could practically do without recourse. Also - hamas is not all Palestinians. Israel is the nation using religious justification for genocide. How can Isr expect for their hostage camps to breed diplomats? So much ignoring of the western manifest destiny ideology that says exactly what Sam is crying about.
Garbage comments from him taken from the Israeli speaking points handbook
Well said Sam. I completely agree with your sentiments.
two wrongs don't make a right. don't protect the protected class with a victim complex.
I can't remember the last time I found myself in agreement with Sam Harris, but Maimonides said one ought to acccept the truth from whoever says it
I’ll tell you what Hamas doesn’t want:
For you to have a very Merry Christmas this year!!!🎄 🎅🏻 🦌 🎁
That is a very weak argument Sam. I think the Palestinians are too nice. If a foreigner Knocked on your door at your home that your family has had for generations and said, "This house is now mine. However, I don't want you to be angry, so I will let you stay in the room in the back of the house. You can also use the bathroom and kitchen, but you must ask permission when doing so." If this were to happen to me, it would be a brutal scene. It wouldn't take 70 years to react, it would take about 10 seconds. The Zionist location chosen was a bad idea from the start. Hell, in America, the citizenry went nuts just having to wear a mask. How do you think they would respond to this scenario.
So cool to see Ben Stiller, Bill Gates, Jim Parsons and John Goodman sitting down to talk politics
He's a bit out of his depth here. He is justifying the cynical US position without context, avoiding the fact of a right wing extremist Israeli state facing off right wing extremist Arabs, avoiding the uncomfortable history of Israel in Palestine. This is the American "party line" and the purpose regurgitating it is to make one feel morally superior whilst witnessing the carnage. The point here is that none of the participants here, including the US expect the conflict to end and are actively taking steps to prolong things.
IS THIS VIDEO 50 YEARS OLD? ....... We've HAD this talk, every year, for 50 years..... Nothing will change.
It's from the other day. I watched live.
I'd like to watch the full interview. I will say I agree with Sam in that by comparing the actions and intentions of Israel to Hamas he's being fair and honest. Hamas has no justification or moral superiority when they slaughter people as they have done. But I don't hear much from Sam on the very valid and justified criticisms of Israel's policies against the Palestinians. I'm sure there's a lot of lazy and reactionary analysis coming from the left on all of this. But from what I can tell, Israel has helped create Hamas, both directly and indirectly through their continued subjugation of the Palestinians in that area. I know Hamas and other groups like them are grotesque, and shouldn't exist. Despite the difference in military tactics and conduct between Israel and groups like Hamas, Israel doesn't shower itself in glory for their own treatment of Palestinians, and their contempt for international law.