Great review really like what you’re doing. I’m currently running a Kelty late start 2 right around 4 pounds and it’s under $200 worked Great last trip I had it on in September!
Thanks Dan and Tyler, going on elk hunt first time this September for my dad, before he gets up in age to far to go. These videos you guys do really help. I have learned a ton over the years of watching you. Love your stuff.
Those are defiantly viable options. I run a Marmot Lime light 3p double vestibule as I like the extra space for gear and cheaper than your choices but it is heavier. There is no free lunch when trying to save weight as the cost goes up. Your best bet is get yourself in Elk-Shape, then weight isn't as big of concern. My pack is usually right at 38 to 40lbs plus your bow or rifle.
I run a Nemo flyer and I like it for size price and comfort if i was getting another I'd probably get the nemo Longbow XL wide as I'm more Tyler's size.
Hey long time watcher here. I noticed you didn’t have one of the cheapest durable options on here wondering if you have tested one before. It’s the military therm a rest self inflating pad. I’ve found some listings online claim it has an r value in the 4s and I’ve seen them sell for $20-$30.
There are a lot of trekking pole tents out there. As this is made for the first time hunter trying to get into this for the first time I recommend that they start with a freestanding tent. Just my opinion.
Hey Guys. I'm with Dan on the sleeping pads. That's why I went with the Klymit V Luxe Extra Wide. The dimensions of it are 76"L x 30"W x 3" Thick. With an Insulation R value of 4.4. The only draw back is that it weighs right around 2 pounds. It's a bit heavier than some, but for the width and R value, I'll take it. I have 2 sleeping bags that I use. One is a down filled bag that I've had for 30+ years and it's still doing it's job. The other Bag is a Legend Sports Featherlite 0 degree synthetic filled bag. It only weighs about 1 1/2 pounds. I'm still searching for the tent that I eventually use on every trip.
@bjlutrus3354 Hello. Where can I find that info? I've never once had an issue using it. But, I'm not using it when temps are below freezing on a regular basis, either.
I am guessing that the rating of 1.9 is without a sleeping bag...there is no insulation in between the baffles. The idea is that all the insulation you would normally compress and will be no help will fill those voids and create the 4.4 r that Klymit refuses to. That is the idea behind some of the skeletonized pads you see.
@ELKSHAPEGEAR That makes sense. If you're getting a sleeping pad that has an insulation R-value, you're most likely using a sleeping bag of some kind to go with it. You would think they would have to state that in the description of the sleeping pad, though.
The problem with cheap pads like the Klymmit is the way they do their baffles. They’re just heat pressed together so those flat spots really don’t have any insulation
Budget is relative. If you’re going to try backcountry hunting or even just backpacking you’re going to need to spend the money. It sucks maybe but cheap gear is going to fail. Best case scenario it leaves you very uncomfortable and miserable, makes you want to give up.
@@drewolm if you’re looking for a true budget build for back country, military surplus from the last 10 years is your best friend. You can get a two sleeping bag and baby sleep system for around $120 that will keep you warm below zero… Speaking from experience.
@@drewolm haha sorry to bother you, that was meant as a reply to @walkerdogman85 But you’re spot on, I don’t run milsurp for hunting because of what you said…it’s HEAVY in comparison. But if you’re gonna be cheap you better be strong, best of luck this fall 💪🏻
I agree but some things you have to learn for yourself. I would totally recommend getting the best system you can afford. But I also know what its like to try and do thing on a budget. One cold night will make the price totally worth it...right?
no need sleeping pad .. guess you guys not been in the military before .. I can march .. sing .. high port my rifle .. and sleep at the same time .. I kid you not!
Great review really like what you’re doing. I’m currently running a Kelty late start 2 right around 4 pounds and it’s under $200 worked Great last trip I had it on in September!
There are a lot of similar tents that would work great...These are just the ones that we are testing this year😊👊
Thanks Dan and Tyler, going on elk hunt first time this September for my dad, before he gets up in age to far to go. These videos you guys do really help. I have learned a ton over the years of watching you. Love your stuff.
Thanks! I am so glad they are helpful!
I have used a klymit static for wildland season as well as hunting season. I love it! Great video you guys I’ll be checking out that big Agnes tent
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Check out nature hike star river same build as msr third of the price😊
will do!
I have the kings camo 2 person tent and it’s pretty nice. Affordable also.
Very nice!
Exactly the Review I need it. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks guys
Our pleasure!
one tent you guys might check out for budget is the river country tents
Thanks. I will have to check it out.
Those are defiantly viable options. I run a Marmot Lime light 3p double vestibule as I like the extra space for gear and cheaper than your choices but it is heavier. There is no free lunch when trying to save weight as the cost goes up. Your best bet is get yourself in Elk-Shape, then weight isn't as big of concern. My pack is usually right at 38 to 40lbs plus your bow or rifle.
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I run a Nemo flyer and I like it for size price and comfort if i was getting another I'd probably get the nemo Longbow XL wide as I'm more Tyler's size.
That is definitely an option.
Hey long time watcher here. I noticed you didn’t have one of the cheapest durable options on here wondering if you have tested one before. It’s the military therm a rest self inflating pad. I’ve found some listings online claim it has an r value in the 4s and I’ve seen them sell for $20-$30.
Those are durable and cheap. I have used similar pads in the past but they are heaver more bulky and not as comfortable as a lot of other pads IMO.
Forceatt is a great budget tent been in many storms in mine has 2 vestibule like the msr but.....mine was 70 bucks lol
I am sure there are cheeper tents out there. I feel like this is a great compromise between price weight and quality.
Six Moons Lunar Solo. $260 and 26oz trekking pole tent 🏕️
There are a lot of trekking pole tents out there. As this is made for the first time hunter trying to get into this for the first time I recommend that they start with a freestanding tent. Just my opinion.
Hey Guys. I'm with Dan on the sleeping pads. That's why I went with the Klymit V Luxe Extra Wide. The dimensions of it are 76"L x 30"W x 3" Thick. With an Insulation R value of 4.4. The only draw back is that it weighs right around 2 pounds. It's a bit heavier than some, but for the width and R value, I'll take it. I have 2 sleeping bags that I use. One is a down filled bag that I've had for 30+ years and it's still doing it's job. The other Bag is a Legend Sports Featherlite 0 degree synthetic filled bag. It only weighs about 1 1/2 pounds. I'm still searching for the tent that I eventually use on every trip.
Just so you know, that klymit pad has an ASTM tested r value of 1.9. The 4.4 was klymit’s “estimate”.
@bjlutrus3354 Hello. Where can I find that info? I've never once had an issue using it. But, I'm not using it when temps are below freezing on a regular basis, either.
I am guessing that the rating of 1.9 is without a sleeping bag...there is no insulation in between the baffles. The idea is that all the insulation you would normally compress and will be no help will fill those voids and create the 4.4 r that Klymit refuses to. That is the idea behind some of the skeletonized pads you see.
@ELKSHAPEGEAR That makes sense. If you're getting a sleeping pad that has an insulation R-value, you're most likely using a sleeping bag of some kind to go with it. You would think they would have to state that in the description of the sleeping pad, though.
The problem with cheap pads like the Klymmit is the way they do their baffles. They’re just heat pressed together so those flat spots really don’t have any insulation
Correct. However your sleeping bag will fill those voids and help with insulation.
@@ELKSHAPEGEAR that’s fair. It is better than no insulation and would be a good starter pad
😂😂 poor dude in the background rowing it out!
Just get the neoair xtherm 23 oz and will be comfortable
If you want to spend the extra money than it is probably worth it!
Haha a guys just in the background casually rowing 😂
Gotta get that WOD in!
$170...zenbivy ultralight pad with a 5.0 R-value
Thanks for the tip.
Some of this isn’t really budget friendly lol…
Budget is relative. If you’re going to try backcountry hunting or even just backpacking you’re going to need to spend the money. It sucks maybe but cheap gear is going to fail. Best case scenario it leaves you very uncomfortable and miserable, makes you want to give up.
Facebook marketplace or Craigslist then
@@drewolm if you’re looking for a true budget build for back country, military surplus from the last 10 years is your best friend. You can get a two sleeping bag and baby sleep system for around $120 that will keep you warm below zero… Speaking from experience.
@@joshuadouglasarchery
That’s good info. I’m not looking, I’ve got my set up. Military surplus might be more weight than people want to carry.
@@drewolm haha sorry to bother you, that was meant as a reply to @walkerdogman85
But you’re spot on, I don’t run milsurp for hunting because of what you said…it’s HEAVY in comparison. But if you’re gonna be cheap you better be strong, best of luck this fall 💪🏻
2 thing that should never be said together....
Budget
Sleep system
Ye Ole buy once...
Cry once for your sleep system!!!
I agree but some things you have to learn for yourself. I would totally recommend getting the best system you can afford. But I also know what its like to try and do thing on a budget. One cold night will make the price totally worth it...right?
no need sleeping pad .. guess you guys not been in the military before .. I can march .. sing .. high port my rifle .. and sleep at the same time .. I kid you not!
😂😂😂 just a bunch of old guys that are soft over here 👊🤣