Reputable businesses aren't going to screw you over -- Trust takes years to establish, you can't even buy trust, it's got to be earned. Screwing around over percentages isn't worth one's reputation. You screw people over and you're google infamous.
@@sreetips hey sreetips! New in the business at 24 years old and looking to learn where to find scrap silver/copper and learn to have the eye for it. Any insights?
Yes - there’s no substitute for experience. Learn how to spot fake stuff, get up early, be first in line cause the metal goes quickly. Estate sales, yard sales, thrift stores, consignment shops. Hope this helps
@@OvechkinRbk9k yard sales are great place to start for picking up 925 stamped sterling silver I’m new to this (hobby may be a poor choice of word) but everything from computers to phones to random equipment have precious metals but you really need to be careful there are some stamps that look like initials next to the xxkt most of the time it’s actually talking about how and what it was processed and not good for scrap there is a book a lot of smelters/refiners say is the Bible for this I forget what it is hit there is a discord for all this if someone else’s sees this and can help out!
I always enjoy the videos you share! Especially this one! Thank you for the in-depth instructions and why you repeated the process several times! I appreciate all you do! 👍
every time I watch one of your videos, I learn something new. Even if I have already seen the process in a previous video. Thank you very much, I have learned a lot with you
I love your passion and energy for refining. You have definitely sparked an interest in me and I'm looking to invest in some equipment in the near future close to my retirement. Thank you for all you do, I really do appreciate it!
I have that same #3 graphite crucible 18:47 It can crack if heated to quickly, so incrementally add heat over 5-10 minutes. I dont want to see that happen when you melt your cemented silver in the future. I recommend buying a salamander crucible they dont need any pre heat
Fantastic wholistic video here, Sr. Chief! Thank you so much for sharing your personal refiner contact with us out here, I'll likely need it in a year or so. I've started hitting estate/yard sales for deals to collect metals and will eventually be setting up for refining in the future. Currently trying to find the best way to determine whether these unmarked knife handles are plated or not, but thinking I'll have to just take the samples I bought and hit them witn potassium dichromate after filing down or cutting into them, per the video you talk about testing for plating. Already checked for magnetism and they passed that. Those knife handles with stainless blades are a bit of a pain in the butt since they aren't marked sterling like forks and spoons. (Please let me know if you'd prefer I drop the rank in comments... I haven't served in the military, myself, but my father was a SSgt/E-5 when he got out of the USAF in the early 70's and came home from Saigon, so I use it with the utmost respect and want to be sure it's received as such.)
Sterling silver, karat gold, inquarted gold, and last but not least, pure gold. You always have the prettiest colors in your videos. lol Oh! I was forgetting my favorite orange, chloroauric acid! Thanks, Sr. 🙂🙋♂️
Thank you sir for the info on where to sell gold. Right now I'm gathering gold after that the chemicals and tools for refining . It's going to be fun and as always safety is first. Thanks again
What a great video! I love watching your instructional videos! I’ve been a nurse for 27 years and I am looking to be able to replicate your process, possibly supplement income and be able to come home some. I joined the gold refining forum and I am going through and watching all of your videos, and taking notes. I’m not only interested in the final product but I’m also interested in the science and complexity of the process (done safely and correctly). I just wanted to tell you thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. It is so much appreciated! -KStreeter
@@sreetipshello and greetings. I wanted to let you know that I watch this video the day you put it on RUclips. I have watched countless hours of your content in a effort to learn and study how to refine gold. I am pleased to inform you that because of your knowledge and your willingness to share it I am able refine gold and make decent money doing so. As well as now I can successfully operate my silver cell that's a really cuts down my cost and gold refining has been able to grow my own silver. I saved my tax return from 2021 and 2022 to purchase all the equipment, chemicals, tools to refine gold in the manner that you do. Because your expert knowledge I was able to successfully refine 567 grams of 14k gold into a very profitable 24k gold bar ( my first time refineing gold by the way!!) that was .999 fine that I sold to the refinery you use and suggested in this video. because of you and you're love and passion I was able to get myself out of debt and I am no longer poor. I make a very good living by refining gold that earns me about $12,000 a month.I thank you from the bottom my heart for helping me out of poverty.
8:33 I'm looking at the fill/rinse/wash cycle and wondering what kind of volume in a refining operation would be needed to justify the expense of having a process train in place? By process train I mean fill, drain and transfer lines into/out of a reaction vessel to reagent reservoirs, waste treatment and filtration stages. Just looking at the yield and admittedly not knowing the input, overhead and labor costs almost 8 oz. of Gold is a tidy sum.
Does the refinery give you more for the gold you process vs. the gold that's in carot gold? Is it worth the time and materials it takes to refine it yourself?
They have zero room to fudge on the payout. Plus I get to keep the silver and PGMs in the karat scrap by refining it myself. Other than that, the only reason I refine is because I love it. I can’t not do it.
I've got quite a good deal of rhodium and tantalum so I'm very grateful for your including their information in this video because now I know where/who I now can send that stuff over to !! Thanks bigtime streetips !!!
You're one of the few that add HNO3 a little at a time. I've been refining for years and have always done it this way. Why spend hours of needless "boildowns"? Recently I sold my Rh that I've saved through the years. A lot of jewelers used to plate Rh behind the stones to catch the light. Tho individually in very small amounts, through the years it built up. I even got it to melt using mapp gas fusion that took 3 hrs., 3 seperate melts. What fun. Goes to show ya anybody with a little common sense can do anything he sets his/her mind to do. My daughter follows in my footstep. Great Video. Look forward to catching more.
Richard, I know that I have rhodium in my wastes. I’m totally knowledge less about how to test, recover and refine rhodium. I’m running out of time. My daughter is into real estate and just bought some bitcoin. I tried to discourage her. But she’s just like me - stubborn streak a mile long. She won’t buy gold, listens to Dave Ramsey. But she’ll get the kind of expensive education that making unwise decisions brings. Congrats on your daughter following in your footsteps. I can’t complain, my daughter is doing better than I am and for that I’m grateful.
@@sreetips Most of my Rh was plated to the Au just under the diamonds,emeralds,rubies,etc. My refining method on scrap Au is a little but not much different than yours. I usually take the time to seperate the stone settings. Place these in Aqua-regia solution. As the Au dissolves the Rh will float around like your gold filled scrap floating on your HNO3. I retrieve them by filtering and place in a repository, where I'll try not to forget them for another 10 years. Yep, i had placed the marked container when i moved, in the garage. Oops! Any way we all make mistakes. Got 2 ozs. out of it. Something else you might consider is selling your brown powder Au to local jewelers. The ones i dealt with in the past would pay a premium on it. easy to weigh and mix for whatever their alloy. Easier to weigh powder than wire, plus they could make their own colorful alloys. They love it.
Rhodium has got ahold of me. Now I’m obsessed with recovering and refining some so I can make a video of it for my channel. Thanks for the info. I can tell when folks know what their talking about - and you’re one of them.
@@sreetips The best book i ever had for learning was the 1948 Chemistry and physics handbook. For some reason that book seems to be the hardest to find. Most of my experience came through the mining industry.Worked at Magma for a few years. Found Pd in Au alloy. People were selling there gold thinking it had Ag alloy. Proved with a paper trail how they were getting ripped-off. 1 ton of rock yeilded 7oz.Au 1oz Pd. Sold both as seperate elements. Most of the Rh i gathered thru the years was from behind the gemstones. It would float on the surface like your gold plate. By the way,a lot of older custume jewelry was plated with the same. Little known secret i just let out of the bag. Work with your refiner,some like it alloyed with Cu. It's rather unique because it depends on what it's alloyed with. Think of the tons of sludge those electrolitic cell produce a day at the big mining smelter operations. They all have the platinum group sister in them.
I've never refined or messed with gold at all... After watching a days worth of your videos, I literally feel like I could refine pure gold and even sell it!... The only thing I haven't seen is the calculations for how much initial nitric acid to use based on weight, or how much silver to add based on purity and weight.... Really educational.... After enough videos (a lot of fast forwarding) I can predict every move and I understand what I am seeing.
One thing that stands out is how beautiful the pure solutions look, and I'll bet that the camera doesn't do them justice. Anyway, $14k for the bar at the current spot price. Not bad for a day's work.
@Owen the same way you would any other time. If ur adding silver to ur gold to incourt it using a furnace to melt everything would just speed up the melting process. That way you don't have to melt the gold then melt/mix in the silver
Shouldent u filter the distillered water after putting in the sulfuric acid to get the percipetated lead out and only then continue with disolving the gold?❤❤
@@sreetips Maybe next video selling it you could add this variable... show people whether or not selling it through a large refiner is better than a local jeweler or taking it right to the bank and getting exactly what it is worth at that specific point in time.... I have quite a few pounds of pins, fingers & processors and will be refining them soon myself. Thanks for all the videos! I particularly like the idea I developed while watching, using precipitated gold as a form of storing it with my Gardening gear looking like a bit of dirt... 8D then smelt it when I am ready to offload it... likely as gold shot...
Is there any benefit of refining before selling to refinery? Becasue in my country gold price is the same no matter karat. So it is more profitable to just melt it and sell as is, than to waste time, chemicals, energy to refine it.
There’s no need to even melt it. The karat gold can be sent in just like it is. I refine it first because I love doing it. Plus, it lets the refiner know that I know what I’m doing. Gives less wiggle room when my pay out is determined. And even though it’s not much, I get to keep the silver and other precious metals in the karat gold. Big refiners normally only pay you for the gold. They keep the other metals for themselves. People forget about this or they don’t know about it. Karat scrap contains silver and platinum group metals. This is how they can afford to pay 98% of spot for your gold. And, every refiner will end up cheating the customer, eventually. That’s part of the reason I refuse to refine other peoples material.
Great video Kevin! The last part with the refiner call was very informative. Question: When are we going to see another waste bucket refining? Want to see more Palladium/Platinum extraction from that!
Hi sreetips. I was just checking into nitric acid substitute sodium nitric and as a beginner refiner to a intermediate beginner refiner I’d like to get your opinion on it. Is it something you have ever used and continue to use or do you just use nitric 70% and what is your preference to one another.
If I use Clean Copper instead of Sterling Silver do the calculations for the amounts remain the same? Thank you again for all the videos. They're very informative and fun to watch.
How often do you clean the silver jars that are used for the pour offs of the nitric with the Sterling inside? Is there much gold/mud in with them? Always wonder as there’ll be silver in that you don’t like going in your stock pot
I keep piece of undissolved silver and boil those silver jars to ensure that all the free nitric is gone. However, there is gold mud and gold foils that settle to the bottom. After a few months accumulation, I add nitric to completely dissolve all the silver in the silver jar - so that there is plenty of boiling nitric AND NO PIECES OF SILVER LEFT AT ALL. Then I filter all the gold mud and gold foils and capture them in a specially prepared filter. Once I have the solids in the filter I rinse with much hot distilled water to remove as much silver as possible. Then I add the filter to my filter storage and save it. Once I’ve accumulated enough filters, I burn them to a fine ash and then process them for the gold and other precious metals that they contain. The clear filtered solution will have excess free nitric. I add that back to the silver jar and put in more sterling silver to consume it all and keep the silver jar going.
Very informative, and thank you. The shipping is key because having one of these bars go missing would be very bad. I'm assuming one would want to insure the bars for full value if possible. My other concern is shipping internationally. I'm in Alberta, Canada (ie: Texas North, with similar freedom-centric leanings), so shipping to the US (and getting paid in US dollars rather than Canadian "pesos") is important. But that is a secondary concern compared to having either the bars seized by customs or the money frozen in Canadian banking institutions by our rogue government. They've already demonstrated this tendency when they froze the accounts of Canadians suspected of financially supporting the trucker convoys in early 2022. It might be better to open a US-based account to handle funds generated in this manner....
@@kueapel911 Justin is a coward, but neither guts nor intelligence are required to bark out orders when he firmly believes he's untouchable. All he needs to be a tyrant is the protection and guidance provided by the puppet-masters who control him - and to have just enough narcissism and idiocy to fall in love with his own voice.
Or should u after adding sulfuric acid add hydrochloric acid and then filter out the lead and only then continue with nitric acid to disolve the gold?❤
We buy scrap gold at local sales for very cheap because people don’t understand that gold is more valuable than paper dollars. The karat scrap is usually stamped but not alway. But you can’t always go by the marking.
@@sreetips True, true... I was wondering about that. Have you trained in chemistry? I'd like to see more theory although it might be a little "mathy" for some folks. Feel free to holler @ me if you have any chem questions. Maybe I can help.
Hey Sreetips. I love your videos. I’m curious, could you use some of your cement silver to enquart the gold instead of purchasing silverware to melt down?
Not recommended. Palladium follows silver because it’s soluble in nitric. The palladium tends to build up in the cement silver if used to inquart. High concentrations of palladium causes it (the palladium) to get into the silver cell electrolyte. High concentrations of palladium in the electrolyte could cause palladium to plate out with the silver and contaminate the pure silver crystal. But contaminated silver is not the concern. Palladium is almost 80 times more valuable than silver.
Could you take the powdered silver straight to the silver cell instead of melting it into larger granules? Is it too fine and might go through the filter cloth that you make the basket from? Love your videos. It is a fascinating process to watch.
@@sreetips I saw the video showing your vent hood with the metal light housing. You mentioned having to modify the light. I look forward to seeing the evolution of your setup. Thank you.
Excellent video; really interesting; thanks! I’d be interested to know if the the effort involved in refining your own carat scrap, with the time & cost of reagents, if there’s any advantage over just sending your scrap straight to the refiner? That’s what we tend to do in UK. Thanks for the fascinating video!
Refiner doesn’t usually give credit for silver or platinum. I get to keep those. Plus the refiner doesn’t have much wiggle room when I send in pure gold. But it’s probably not that much different.
@@sreetips I saw on another video you said you get 98% from the refiner. Have they ever tried to say that what you sent was as good a quality as you knew it to be?
They test with xrf to determine payout. Comes back three nines every time. They (the big refiner that I sell to) contacted me and wanted me to refine gold filled scrap for some of their clients. I respectfully declined because I only work on my own material.
My nitric bottle says 68% to 70% and I adjust the hotplate hi or lo based on the process I’m using. Each refining will different. There are simply too many variables to give a specific number.
Just curious, what’s your margin after paying for scrap and the needed chemicals? Not counting the 100s of hours of your time? I have only watched a few vids but have not seen a reference to costs and sale price…
TIP... either heat your dish from the bottom or heat the whole thing in a furnace so you don't reach excessively high temperatures during melting... excess heat will vaporise some of the gold ( gold will start to "evaporate" as little as 1500 deg C.. which is easily reached with propane/oxy mixed gas) ...in a furnace or heating from under the dish will keep your temp just above melting point so you lose nothing.
Woou! Sir I am very impresses with that wouenderful information. You are a Master never saw a perfect video like this I am glad saw it for the first time I am so much enjoyed and learn all the ditel. Thank you so much.
You wind up with excess nitric acid that has to be denoxed by boiling down the solution and adding Hydrochloric acid to reconstitute, adding Sulfamic acid, or Urea. Otherwise, when you drop the gold, the remaining nitric in the aqua regia will cause the gold to re dissolve as fast as it forms. Wasteful and frustrating.
Idk how I got here but RUclips blessed me. I wanted inform myself on precious metal's as I wanna expand my investing to not be 100% on stock's. This video and channel is awesome 👌
One question; if there are excess nitric acid when you pour it into the silver jar - why dont you just boil it for longer? Nitric Acid is expensive and difficult to procure ( at least where I live).
I add pieces of silver to consume all the excess nitric acid. A small amount of free nitric is required for the silver to react with the copper and cement out of the solution
I'd like to know the ingot's weigh when it is steadily suspended in water by a thinnest wire without touching the bottom. The dry weigh divided by the wet weigh is the density of the ingot. The closer to 19,3 g/cm3, the most pure is the gold.
Streetips I have a question to you,is it possible for the gold ore, the pyrites to become real gold, tell me how and on what process,and I am waiting for your responds sooner or later.
Silver is plated on brass or copper. The silver will cement right back out on the brass just as fast as it dissolves. This will go on and on until all the brass gets consumed.
Have you ever tried placing a one of the rinses on the ultrasonic cleaner? Not poured into but just put the beaker on top of it? It seems like it could get into the gold or silver powder better than just a swirl.
@@sreetips I'm not sure if it's available in the US but we use a universal neutraliser called 'diphoterine' in the labs in work, it is very effective for both acid and alkaline and has saved a couple of people's eyesight/skin since we introduced it.
I’ve watched hundred of videos by now and I have yet to think about you having a gold cell for crystalline gold just like the sliver cell… i know you had that gold cell to remove plated gold jewelry but a lot different then the AG cell…
@@sreetips thank you so much for the help. I really enjoy your videos and am planning to start refining myself sometime soon. Your videos have been a great inspiration.
@@sreetips one last question if you have the time, with your experience on buying gold is Goodwill a good source to find cheap karat gold for refining?
Where is the equal point between value of gold/silver vs cost of nitric used to inquart here? And why go this route instead of aqua regia? I’m asking as a serious learning point question because i haven’t a clue and am genuinely trying to learn, not critique or whatever. I love love love watching your videos. I learn something every single time, even if it’s a rewatch. I will pick up on something i missed earlier. Thank you so much for your channel and the sharing you do.
I don’t know equal point because I’ve not calculated it. Inquarting with silver or copper lowers the gold content. Then the nitric can get everything out before going to aqua regia. Trying to dissolve the karat gold without inquarting creates problems with a very dirty solution and passivation.
@@sreetips I just got to the point in the video where you explained that. My bad. Should’ve been patient and known you would explain the refining points. Thank you sir. Please keep up the good work! One day I’m going to be able to buy some of your eBay offers and that stamp of yours will be more valuable than the metal, to me anyway!
I have a pint container of liquid dalic plating solution. I know there is still gold in the solution. Is there a process for extracting the gold from the solution?
Why not use pure silver instead of sterling when inquarting? The only things I kow about refining is whatever I learned watching you but it seems like not having the copper ''contamination'' would make for easier refining of the silver afterwards?
WRT cement silver, you said, “then I rinse all the copper off it.” But subsequent steps in your silver refining process suggest that that doesn’t quite happen. After all the phrase you use for your shot is “impure silver shot” and your electrolytic chamber becomes blue as the Pacific with (copper nitrate?) You’re still rinsing rinsing rinsing this stuff off at the end of process from your pure silver crystal. I gotta say, and I say it with love because Mr Sreetips you are awesome, but this appears to be a major weakness in your workflow. Have you ever attempted to brainstorm a better way to rinse your cement silver?
Two points here: #1, as long as the copper concentration is kept below 60 grams per liter in the electrolyte, and voltage (current flow will vary) is kept at 3.5 volts, then the copper will not plate out in the cell with the pure silver crystal. #2, according to GoldSilverPro on the goldrefiningforum.com (one of the professional refiners that I learned from) a small amount of copper in the electrolyte, like what you get when traces of copper in the impure shot start to build up in the electrolyte as it dissolves, improves the crystal structure. It promotes fat crystal growth. I learned from the best. Their methods are tried and true.
I guess that when cementing silver with copper, tiny particles of metallic copper get separated from the bulk and are mixed with the cement silver. So rinsing won't help much, but electrolysis will. Sometimes Sreetips ran his pure silver crystal through the cell again, resulting no blue stain to the electrolyte. This proves that the single stage electrolysis properly takes care of the remaining copper.
One thing Streetips doesn't really explain is the "Patriot Act" laws. Most refiners don't deal with the general public. You need to prove that you have some connection to precious metals such as jewelers and jewelry repairmen (which I believe mr. streetips falls under), pawn brokers, antiques dealers, coin shops, etc. You also need to furnish info such as business or resale licence numbers, tax id, etc. It sounded like the gentleman that Streetips spoke to on the phone briefly touched on some of the requirements but again, there are requirements when dealing with refiners.
Hey friend! Idk if you could explain, or direct me to one of your videos. Was wondering how you know between gold filled, and plated. (plated I'd assume is easy as it shows easily on scratching, but filled appears THICK)
Try putting 14k test acid directly on the piece. The test acid will immediately penetrate the thin gold plating cause it to bubble, stink, and turn green. Gold filled, having a thick layer of karat gold over brass, will not react at all. I did this test in my latest gold filled video about a month ago: ruclips.net/video/IvTmptQhkIg/видео.html
Great stuff Kevin!! I'm very much interested in learning the safe way of processing my own gold, is there a site where i can get all the materials needed to conduct this at my house, i would need everything, filter system is that homemade or bought that way? Any info would be great!! Thanks again, i am absolutely intrigued by your videos!!
Chuck, I’ve not compared the two so I don’t know. But I did weight a flask of gold solution and then weighed it again with plain water and the difference was significant - see my electrolytic gold refining video (2 parts) for that video
I have a lot of gold in solution that I’ve been collecting for over a year now. Is there a place I could send a sample to be tested? I would need help precipitating my liquid. Is there a refinery that can perform that for me? How trustworthy would that process be?
If the gold is going to a big refiner, who will throw it in his bin to be re-refined again anyway, then stopping and melting after the nitric boils is completely ok. But I always go the extra steps to maintain proficiency and to let the big refiner know that I know what I’m doing. Gives them less incentive to fudge the numbers. No room to fudge when pure gold is sent in
Just a question, why don't you just cupel it to drive off the oxides and sell it to a refinery that pays you for the silver and gold content after it's been under the XRF "florescents test"
@@sreetips thanks mate what's it cost approximately for all the nitric & hydrochloric acid, gas and everything that you use And your time plus the clean up and is there any real benefit to stripping the silver out when you would be paid for it anyway. Also can you get the silver out and into bar form? sorry for all the questions new to refining I'm a prospector I find gold I don't refine it it's worth more as a natural nuggets most of the time.
Colin, gold refining is my hobby. For this bar I would estimate the cost of refining to be less than $100, all in, less my time and the cost of the scrap.
“Stripping” the silver out of the gold with boiling nitric also pulls all the other base metals from the gold. When complete, the resulting gold is very close to three nines without any further refining. I save all the silver solutions and get that silver. Then I run it through my silver cell. Once purified it can be sold as-is or melted and poured into bars.
I refine gold as a hobby. Placer nuggets are typically between 18k and 22k - the ones that I’ve worked with. I make videos of the refining. These videos continue to produce ad revenue long after the refined gold has been sold. The real value is in the video. And that’s why I refine the gold. Plus, holding high purity gold in the palm of your hand, there is nothing like it. Especially if you refined it yourself, at home.
This is just my opinion. Right now people are stuck on dollars that can be printed into existence out of thin air. Everything is priced in dollars because people have faith in these dollars. But this will change. Once people realize that all fiat, whether paper or digital, is worthless, then there will be a stampede into the metals. If you wait until then to “invest” in gold then it will be too late. I am slowly converting worthless paper, that is decreasing in value, into metals that are increasing in value. If I need paper to buy food or pay rent then I sell a little of my metal. Conclusions; when you “buy” metals think of it as converting the fake paper into real metal. And, don’t store your wealth in paper that’s decreasing in purchasing power. Store it in metals that will preserve your purchasing power.
What is the cost of the nitric acid ??? If you don't mind me asking , basically I would like to know if this is cost effective or mainly just a hobby to blow off some steam you know 🤔
Always interesting. I don't know if you read or reply to comments, but I am interested to know if you ever calculated the ROI? Not including the beakers and so forth, but the purchase of the gold, sterling and consumables like the acids. Thank you.
I’ve not done that. It’s my hobby and I don’t track expenses for each batch that I refine. I just buy the metals as cheap as I can. If I need paper to pay bills or to exchange for more metals, then I sell a little to raise cash.
I appreciate how precise the language you use is. It's a lost art, using the exact amount of words to describe a process without over explaining.
I don't care what anyone says... You are hands down, the best. Fantastic video!!!!
Id be nervous af sending gold in, id probably have to go take it in person and wont let go of the bar til they give me the money lol
Reputable businesses aren't going to screw you over -- Trust takes years to establish, you can't even buy trust, it's got to be earned. Screwing around over percentages isn't worth one's reputation. You screw people over and you're google infamous.
One of my mentors used to say, “sooner or later, the refiner will end up cheating the customer.”
@@sreetips hey sreetips! New in the business at 24 years old and looking to learn where to find scrap silver/copper and learn to have the eye for it.
Any insights?
Yes - there’s no substitute for experience. Learn how to spot fake stuff, get up early, be first in line cause the metal goes quickly. Estate sales, yard sales, thrift stores, consignment shops. Hope this helps
@@OvechkinRbk9k yard sales are great place to start for picking up 925 stamped sterling silver I’m new to this (hobby may be a poor choice of word) but everything from computers to phones to random equipment have precious metals but you really need to be careful there are some stamps that look like initials next to the xxkt most of the time it’s actually talking about how and what it was processed and not good for scrap there is a book a lot of smelters/refiners say is the Bible for this I forget what it is hit there is a discord for all this if someone else’s sees this and can help out!
Getting 99% of actual gold value + postage is far and away better than paying the eBay fees. Great content as usual!
I always enjoy the videos you share! Especially this one! Thank you for the in-depth instructions and why you repeated the process several times! I appreciate all you do! 👍
Watching that SMB cloud roll around at the bottom never gets old streettips
I love how the top looks when you keep the torch on the pour out
every time I watch one of your videos, I learn something new. Even if I have already seen the process in a previous video. Thank you very much, I have learned a lot with you
Yeah that's awesome how you recorded the call and asked questions for everyone viewing. Thanks man
@Sreetips what a wonderful service to demonstrate the process of dealing with the large refiners! Thank you 😊
I love your passion and energy for refining. You have definitely sparked an interest in me and I'm looking to invest in some equipment in the near future close to my retirement. Thank you for all you do, I really do appreciate it!
Really enjoy watching this channel. Makes me want to get into this as a hobby.
I have that same #3 graphite crucible 18:47
It can crack if heated to quickly, so incrementally add heat over 5-10 minutes. I dont want to see that happen when you melt your cemented silver in the future. I recommend buying a salamander crucible they dont need any pre heat
This channel is the best source of free entertainment during a pandemic....and it’s educational as well.
Thank you for these!
Here you are still watching it.
Sree has done it again. Excellent video.
Fantastic wholistic video here, Sr. Chief! Thank you so much for sharing your personal refiner contact with us out here, I'll likely need it in a year or so. I've started hitting estate/yard sales for deals to collect metals and will eventually be setting up for refining in the future.
Currently trying to find the best way to determine whether these unmarked knife handles are plated or not, but thinking I'll have to just take the samples I bought and hit them witn potassium dichromate after filing down or cutting into them, per the video you talk about testing for plating. Already checked for magnetism and they passed that. Those knife handles with stainless blades are a bit of a pain in the butt since they aren't marked sterling like forks and spoons.
(Please let me know if you'd prefer I drop the rank in comments... I haven't served in the military, myself, but my father was a SSgt/E-5 when he got out of the USAF in the early 70's and came home from Saigon, so I use it with the utmost respect and want to be sure it's received as such.)
SSgt= E6...
Sterling silver, karat gold, inquarted gold, and last but not least, pure gold. You always have the prettiest colors in your videos. lol
Oh! I was forgetting my favorite orange, chloroauric acid!
Thanks, Sr. 🙂🙋♂️
It never gets old watching gold drop out of solution
Precipitated gold is probably the sneakiest way to hide it in your gardening gear...
@@moviezaftermidnight6348 you know, I think just straight up putting this kind of gold in a flower pot might be a good move
Thank you sir for the info on where to sell gold. Right now I'm gathering gold after that the chemicals and tools for refining . It's going to be fun and as always safety is first. Thanks again
What a great video! I love watching your instructional videos! I’ve been a nurse for 27 years and I am looking to be able to replicate your process, possibly supplement income and be able to come home some. I joined the gold refining forum and I am going through and watching all of your videos, and taking notes. I’m not only interested in the final product but I’m also interested in the science and complexity of the process (done safely and correctly). I just wanted to tell you thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. It is so much appreciated! -KStreeter
Excellent, thank you for those kind words my friend
@@sreetipshello and greetings. I wanted to let you know that I watch this video the day you put it on RUclips. I have watched countless hours of your content in a effort to learn and study how to refine gold. I am pleased to inform you that because of your knowledge and your willingness to share it I am able refine gold and make decent money doing so. As well as now I can successfully operate my silver cell that's a really cuts down my cost and gold refining has been able to grow my own silver. I saved my tax return from 2021 and 2022 to purchase all the equipment, chemicals, tools to refine gold in the manner that you do. Because your expert knowledge I was able to successfully refine 567 grams of 14k gold into a very profitable 24k gold bar ( my first time refineing gold by the way!!) that was .999 fine that I sold to the refinery you use and suggested in this video. because of you and you're love and passion I was able to get myself out of debt and I am no longer poor. I make a very good living by refining gold that earns me about $12,000 a month.I thank you from the bottom my heart for helping me out of poverty.
8:33 I'm looking at the fill/rinse/wash cycle and wondering what kind of volume in a refining operation would be needed to justify the expense of having a process train in place? By process train I mean fill, drain and transfer lines into/out of a reaction vessel to reagent reservoirs, waste treatment and filtration stages.
Just looking at the yield and admittedly not knowing the input, overhead and labor costs almost 8 oz. of Gold is a tidy sum.
Does the refinery give you more for the gold you process vs. the gold that's in carot gold?
Is it worth the time and materials it takes to refine it yourself?
They have zero room to fudge on the payout. Plus I get to keep the silver and PGMs in the karat scrap by refining it myself. Other than that, the only reason I refine is because I love it. I can’t not do it.
I've got quite a good deal of rhodium and tantalum so I'm very grateful for your including their information in this video because now I know where/who I now can send that stuff over to !! Thanks bigtime streetips !!!
Like tantalum capacitors? Tantalum is worth a fortune
You're one of the few that add HNO3 a little at a time. I've been refining for years and have always done it this way. Why spend hours of needless "boildowns"? Recently I sold my Rh that I've saved through the years. A lot of jewelers used to plate Rh behind the stones to catch the light. Tho individually in very small amounts, through the years it built up. I even got it to melt using mapp gas fusion that took 3 hrs., 3 seperate melts. What fun. Goes to show ya anybody with a little common sense can do anything he sets his/her mind to do. My daughter follows in my footstep. Great Video. Look forward to catching more.
Richard, I know that I have rhodium in my wastes. I’m totally knowledge less about how to test, recover and refine rhodium. I’m running out of time. My daughter is into real estate and just bought some bitcoin. I tried to discourage her. But she’s just like me - stubborn streak a mile long. She won’t buy gold, listens to Dave Ramsey. But she’ll get the kind of expensive education that making unwise decisions brings. Congrats on your daughter following in your footsteps. I can’t complain, my daughter is doing better than I am and for that I’m grateful.
@@sreetips Most of my Rh was plated to the Au just under the diamonds,emeralds,rubies,etc. My refining method on scrap Au is a little but not much different than yours. I usually take the time to seperate the stone settings. Place these in Aqua-regia solution. As the Au dissolves the Rh will float around like your gold filled scrap floating on your HNO3. I retrieve them by filtering and place in a repository, where I'll try not to forget them for another 10 years. Yep, i had placed the marked container when i moved, in the garage. Oops! Any way we all make mistakes. Got 2 ozs. out of it. Something else you might consider is selling your brown powder Au to local jewelers. The ones i dealt with in the past would pay a premium on it. easy to weigh and mix for whatever their alloy. Easier to weigh powder than wire, plus they could make their own colorful alloys. They love it.
Rhodium has got ahold of me. Now I’m obsessed with recovering and refining some so I can make a video of it for my channel. Thanks for the info. I can tell when folks know what their talking about - and you’re one of them.
@@sreetips The best book i ever had for learning was the 1948 Chemistry and physics handbook. For some reason that book seems to be the hardest to find. Most of my experience came through the mining industry.Worked at Magma for a few years. Found Pd in Au alloy. People were selling there gold thinking it had Ag alloy. Proved with a paper trail how they were getting ripped-off. 1 ton of rock yeilded 7oz.Au 1oz Pd. Sold both as seperate elements. Most of the Rh i gathered thru the years was from behind the gemstones. It would float on the surface like your gold plate. By the way,a lot of older custume jewelry was plated with the same. Little known secret i just let out of the bag. Work with your refiner,some like it alloyed with Cu. It's rather unique because it depends on what it's alloyed with. Think of the tons of sludge those electrolitic cell produce a day at the big mining smelter operations. They all have the platinum group sister in them.
I've never refined or messed with gold at all... After watching a days worth of your videos, I literally feel like I could refine pure gold and even sell it!... The only thing I haven't seen is the calculations for how much initial nitric acid to use based on weight, or how much silver to add based on purity and weight.... Really educational.... After enough videos (a lot of fast forwarding) I can predict every move and I understand what I am seeing.
Calculating how much silver to add is just basic math. The hard part is acquiring the scrap gold for refining,
One thing that stands out is how beautiful the pure solutions look, and I'll bet that the camera doesn't do them justice. Anyway, $14k for the bar at the current spot price. Not bad for a day's work.
This video just made me lots of money. After my first sale with aragold, I will be looking to donate to your channel.
Y not use the furnace to melt everything at once
@@dominiccoletta1823 how do you seperate the metals with a batch melt?
@Owen the same way you would any other time. If ur adding silver to ur gold to incourt it using a furnace to melt everything would just speed up the melting process. That way you don't have to melt the gold then melt/mix in the silver
Excellent, thank you
Shouldent u filter the distillered water after putting in the sulfuric acid to get the percipetated lead out and only then continue with disolving the gold?❤❤
Sounds right
How much off was the quoted spot price in comparison to what the market price was at the time?
I don’t know. I don’t keep track of these things. This is my hobby. Most was bought by my wife for pennies.
@@sreetips Maybe next video selling it you could add this variable... show people whether or not selling it through a large refiner is better than a local jeweler or taking it right to the bank and getting exactly what it is worth at that specific point in time.... I have quite a few pounds of pins, fingers & processors and will be refining them soon myself. Thanks for all the videos!
I particularly like the idea I developed while watching, using precipitated gold as a form of storing it with my Gardening gear looking like a bit of dirt... 8D then smelt it when I am ready to offload it... likely as gold shot...
Is there any benefit of refining before selling to refinery? Becasue in my country gold price is the same no matter karat. So it is more profitable to just melt it and sell as is, than to waste time, chemicals, energy to refine it.
There’s no need to even melt it. The karat gold can be sent in just like it is. I refine it first because I love doing it. Plus, it lets the refiner know that I know what I’m doing. Gives less wiggle room when my pay out is determined. And even though it’s not much, I get to keep the silver and other precious metals in the karat gold. Big refiners normally only pay you for the gold. They keep the other metals for themselves. People forget about this or they don’t know about it. Karat scrap contains silver and platinum group metals. This is how they can afford to pay 98% of spot for your gold. And, every refiner will end up cheating the customer, eventually. That’s part of the reason I refuse to refine other peoples material.
Thank you for sharing your unselfish skills and knowledge and of course your buyers details. That is very kind of you. Much appreciated. Cheers.
So nice of you for publishing info about your buyer. Continue doing a great job 👍
Great video Kevin! The last part with the refiner call was very informative. Question: When are we going to see another waste bucket refining? Want to see more Palladium/Platinum extraction from that!
Coming soon!
Phenomenal job with this video. Highly professional as well as stayed interesting throughout. Keep up the great work!
Hi sreetips. I was just checking into nitric acid substitute sodium nitric and as a beginner refiner to a intermediate beginner refiner I’d like to get your opinion on it. Is it something you have ever used and continue to use or do you just use nitric 70% and what is your preference to one another.
I’ve never used it, no experience. I just buy the nitric already made
quick question sreetips,cab i use the inpure silver shot that i made from the cemented silver instead of sterling silver/clean copper
Yes but it’s not recommended.
If I use Clean Copper instead of Sterling Silver do the calculations for the amounts remain the same? Thank you again for all the videos. They're very informative and fun to watch.
Yes
How did you get started in refining precious metals? How could I get started?
I wanted to refine my own metal and I developed an intense desire to succeed.
How often do you clean the silver jars that are used for the pour offs of the nitric with the Sterling inside? Is there much gold/mud in with them? Always wonder as there’ll be silver in that you don’t like going in your stock pot
I keep piece of undissolved silver and boil those silver jars to ensure that all the free nitric is gone. However, there is gold mud and gold foils that settle to the bottom. After a few months accumulation, I add nitric to completely dissolve all the silver in the silver jar - so that there is plenty of boiling nitric AND NO PIECES OF SILVER LEFT AT ALL. Then I filter all the gold mud and gold foils and capture them in a specially prepared filter. Once I have the solids in the filter I rinse with much hot distilled water to remove as much silver as possible. Then I add the filter to my filter storage and save it. Once I’ve accumulated enough filters, I burn them to a fine ash and then process them for the gold and other precious metals that they contain. The clear filtered solution will have excess free nitric. I add that back to the silver jar and put in more sterling silver to consume it all and keep the silver jar going.
@@sreetips and so the cycle continues...Thanks for the reply
do you still need to incorporate silver if you're refining placer gold? And thanks!
No necessarily, but I would because it does such a good job at cleaning the gold.
Very informative, and thank you. The shipping is key because having one of these bars go missing would be very bad. I'm assuming one would want to insure the bars for full value if possible.
My other concern is shipping internationally. I'm in Alberta, Canada (ie: Texas North, with similar freedom-centric leanings), so shipping to the US (and getting paid in US dollars rather than Canadian "pesos") is important.
But that is a secondary concern compared to having either the bars seized by customs or the money frozen in Canadian banking institutions by our rogue government. They've already demonstrated this tendency when they froze the accounts of Canadians suspected of financially supporting the trucker convoys in early 2022. It might be better to open a US-based account to handle funds generated in this manner....
damn, didn't imagine that soy trudeau boy would really have the gut to do that kind of authoritarian bullcrap
@@kueapel911 Justin is a coward, but neither guts nor intelligence are required to bark out orders when he firmly believes he's untouchable. All he needs to be a tyrant is the protection and guidance provided by the puppet-masters who control him - and to have just enough narcissism and idiocy to fall in love with his own voice.
I’m from Alberta as well! CheeRs ♻️💪🏻
Do you process/ adjust Ag addition for white, yellow, rose, etc gold separately? thinking of the Pd/Ni in white vs Ag+Cu in yellow or just Cu in rose.
Or should u after adding sulfuric acid add hydrochloric acid and then filter out the lead and only then continue with nitric acid to disolve the gold?❤
I add sulfuric while dissolving the gold in AR
Loved the info at the end. It was great to see you call a place and get a feel for how to finalize the transactions if you have precious metal
I would like to hear where you are sourcing the jewelry/gold scraps from and how you know whether it is 10k,14k, 18k,24k...
We buy scrap gold at local sales for very cheap because people don’t understand that gold is more valuable than paper dollars. The karat scrap is usually stamped but not alway. But you can’t always go by the marking.
That is one huge beautiful solid bar of gold you produced Sreetips. Cool stuff bud.
So is that water solution of the gold is it heavier then a regular glass of water
Yes
I know sterling has some copper in it... do you think enquarting would be better with refined silver?
No, because it’s already been through the silver cell. And we’d lose the blue color indicator that’s so convenient.
@@sreetips True, true... I was wondering about that. Have you trained in chemistry? I'd like to see more theory although it might be a little "mathy" for some folks. Feel free to holler @ me if you have any chem questions. Maybe I can help.
Hey Sreetips. I love your videos. I’m curious, could you use some of your cement silver to enquart the gold instead of purchasing silverware to melt down?
Not recommended. Palladium follows silver because it’s soluble in nitric. The palladium tends to build up in the cement silver if used to inquart. High concentrations of palladium causes it (the palladium) to get into the silver cell electrolyte. High concentrations of palladium in the electrolyte could cause palladium to plate out with the silver and contaminate the pure silver crystal. But contaminated silver is not the concern. Palladium is almost 80 times more valuable than silver.
Could you take the powdered silver straight to the silver cell instead of melting it into larger granules? Is it too fine and might go through the filter cloth that you make the basket from? Love your videos. It is a fascinating process to watch.
Do you refine for individual people
How toxic is the nitric acid vapor?
Is the vent fan, gloves and filter mask enough protection?
It’s deadly, I work in a fume hood to draw the fumes away from my work area.
@@sreetips I saw the video showing your vent hood with the metal light housing. You mentioned having to modify the light. I look forward to seeing the evolution of your setup. Thank you.
Thank You Sir for the Refiner's Info...You just saved me who knows how many hours of time in trying to find a Fair-Priced Refiner! Your the Best!!!
Question haw about the gold that u can get out of the grand. Do u do the same thing with it?
Gold out of the ground is called placer. I’ll get some and do a refining to demonstrate
What is in the brown/mustard fumes coming off the silver and how toxic is it?
I'm pretty sure that is nitrogen dioxide, aka red death. Very poisonous if it is.
Nitrogen dioxide
Having a fume hood is an essential safety device for any precious metals refining. Most inhalation injuries are permanent.
Excellent video; really interesting; thanks! I’d be interested to know if the the effort involved in refining your own carat scrap, with the time & cost of reagents, if there’s any advantage over just sending your scrap straight to the refiner? That’s what we tend to do in UK. Thanks for the fascinating video!
Refiner doesn’t usually give credit for silver or platinum. I get to keep those. Plus the refiner doesn’t have much wiggle room when I send in pure gold. But it’s probably not that much different.
@@sreetips I saw on another video you said you get 98% from the refiner. Have they ever tried to say that what you sent was as good a quality as you knew it to be?
They test with xrf to determine payout. Comes back three nines every time. They (the big refiner that I sell to) contacted me and wanted me to refine gold filled scrap for some of their clients. I respectfully declined because I only work on my own material.
@@sreetips speaks well for your reputation. Love your videos. Wish I could go shopping with Mrs. S.
Does the nitric have to be a % above what a hardware sells? and what is the temp. of the hotplate?
My nitric bottle says 68% to 70% and I adjust the hotplate hi or lo based on the process I’m using. Each refining will different. There are simply too many variables to give a specific number.
what gas is emitted when you pour the used nitric acid onto the silver?
Nitrogen dioxide
Love your videos. Why sterling to enquart? Wouldn't silver plate scrap work? I've seen you use copper before.
I refine sterling.
Hey Sree, do you ever lose money through the refining process?
If I did I wouldn’t be able to do it for very long.
@@sreetips Haha good point
Just curious, what’s your margin after paying for scrap and the needed chemicals? Not counting the 100s of hours of your time? I have only watched a few vids but have not seen a reference to costs and sale price…
It’s my hobby. I don’t track expenses for each batch
TIP... either heat your dish from the bottom or heat the whole thing in a furnace so you don't reach excessively high temperatures during melting... excess heat will vaporise some of the gold ( gold will start to "evaporate" as little as 1500 deg C.. which is easily reached with propane/oxy mixed gas) ...in a furnace or heating from under the dish will keep your temp just above melting point so you lose nothing.
Excellent, thank you
I asked before an never got an answer but how do you get your bar(s) to that refiner? Super glad you answered that today!!!!
USPS Registered Priority Mail
Woou! Sir I am very impresses with that wouenderful information. You are a Master never saw a perfect video like this I am glad saw it for the first time I am so much enjoyed and learn all the ditel. Thank you so much.
@ Sreetips
Where do you purchase your reaction materials?
Mostly on eBay.
@@sreetips thank you!
I love those poor pour lines on your melts. Good info to know if needing to sell or exchange.
It's shrinkage, happens when it cools down.. tucks inside.
Thanks for the info, how much do you get for the bar versus that pile of scrap?
I’ve never taken the time to figure it
Yes
Sreetips, I am curious. Could you elaborate as to the specific issues premxing aqua regia causes?
You wind up with excess nitric acid that has to be denoxed by boiling down the solution and adding Hydrochloric acid to reconstitute, adding Sulfamic acid, or Urea. Otherwise, when you drop the gold, the remaining nitric in the aqua regia will cause the gold to re dissolve as fast as it forms. Wasteful and frustrating.
@@Halloween111 Thanks! Yes that would be frustrating.
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Do you take advantage of the extra 1% (98 vs 99%) when selling 20 grams or more or is that too much volume for you to sit on?
Idk how I got here but RUclips blessed me. I wanted inform myself on precious metal's as I wanna expand my investing to not be 100% on stock's. This video and channel is awesome 👌
One question; if there are excess nitric acid when you pour it into the silver jar - why dont you just boil it for longer? Nitric Acid is expensive and difficult to procure ( at least where I live).
I add pieces of silver to consume all the excess nitric acid. A small amount of free nitric is required for the silver to react with the copper and cement out of the solution
I'd like to know the ingot's weigh when it is steadily suspended in water by a thinnest wire without touching the bottom. The dry weigh divided by the wet weigh is the density of the ingot. The closer to 19,3 g/cm3, the most pure is the gold.
U must not be aware of Mr Sreetips pedigree....I will assure you that when he completes the process the ingots density will be 19,3g/ cm2
Streetips I have a question to you,is it possible for the gold ore, the pyrites to become real gold, tell me how and on what process,and I am waiting for your responds sooner or later.
I don’t have any experience with ore pyrites. All the gold I work with comes from scrap karat gold.
Could you use plated silver items to dissolve excess nitric?
Yes, but not a good idea.
@@sreetips why not, sorry I’m finding it hard to find sterling around NC estate sales
Silver is plated on brass or copper. The silver will cement right back out on the brass just as fast as it dissolves. This will go on and on until all the brass gets consumed.
Have you ever tried placing a one of the rinses on the ultrasonic cleaner? Not poured into but just put the beaker on top of it? It seems like it could get into the gold or silver powder better than just a swirl.
Would these acids burn you immediately if you get any on you? Do you keep emergency stuff around to neutralize yourself. Not sure if that's a thing.
Yes and yes
@@sreetips I'm not sure if it's available in the US but we use a universal neutraliser called 'diphoterine' in the labs in work, it is very effective for both acid and alkaline and has saved a couple of people's eyesight/skin since we introduced it.
I’ll check into that
I’ve watched hundred of videos by now and I have yet to think about you having a gold cell for crystalline gold just like the sliver cell… i know you had that gold cell to remove plated gold jewelry but a lot different then the AG cell…
I have a video on the Wohlwill electrolytic gold refining cell
@@sreetips awesome thanks!!! have a good day!
@sreetips would the gold to copper ratio be the same as the gold to silver ratio that you used in this video?
Yes
@@sreetips thank you so much for the help. I really enjoy your videos and am planning to start refining myself sometime soon. Your videos have been a great inspiration.
@@sreetips one last question if you have the time, with your experience on buying gold is Goodwill a good source to find cheap karat gold for refining?
I can not get tired of watching you are the best
Thank you
What do you do with the waste? And how much is a set up like this.
Waste treatment.
Do you use distilled water for you ice cubes? And thanks for the viedo.
Where is the equal point between value of gold/silver vs cost of nitric used to inquart here? And why go this route instead of aqua regia? I’m asking as a serious learning point question because i haven’t a clue and am genuinely trying to learn, not critique or whatever.
I love love love watching your videos. I learn something every single time, even if it’s a rewatch. I will pick up on something i missed earlier. Thank you so much for your channel and the sharing you do.
I don’t know equal point because I’ve not calculated it. Inquarting with silver or copper lowers the gold content. Then the nitric can get everything out before going to aqua regia. Trying to dissolve the karat gold without inquarting creates problems with a very dirty solution and passivation.
@@sreetips I just got to the point in the video where you explained that. My bad. Should’ve been patient and known you would explain the refining points. Thank you sir. Please keep up the good work! One day I’m going to be able to buy some of your eBay offers and that stamp of yours will be more valuable than the metal, to me anyway!
I have a pint container of liquid dalic plating solution. I know there is still gold in the solution. Is there a process for extracting the gold from the solution?
Bob I’ve never worked with plating solutions
Why not use pure silver instead of sterling when inquarting? The only things I kow about refining is whatever I learned watching you but it seems like not having the copper ''contamination'' would make for easier refining of the silver afterwards?
Using pure silver, that’s already been through the silver cell, would be taking a step in the wrong direction.
WRT cement silver, you said, “then I rinse all the copper off it.” But subsequent steps in your silver refining process suggest that that doesn’t quite happen. After all the phrase you use for your shot is “impure silver shot” and your electrolytic chamber becomes blue as the Pacific with (copper nitrate?) You’re still rinsing rinsing rinsing this stuff off at the end of process from your pure silver crystal. I gotta say, and I say it with love because Mr Sreetips you are awesome, but this appears to be a major weakness in your workflow. Have you ever attempted to brainstorm a better way to rinse your cement silver?
Two points here: #1, as long as the copper concentration is kept below 60 grams per liter in the electrolyte, and voltage (current flow will vary) is kept at 3.5 volts, then the copper will not plate out in the cell with the pure silver crystal. #2, according to GoldSilverPro on the goldrefiningforum.com (one of the professional refiners that I learned from) a small amount of copper in the electrolyte, like what you get when traces of copper in the impure shot start to build up in the electrolyte as it dissolves, improves the crystal structure. It promotes fat crystal growth. I learned from the best. Their methods are tried and true.
I guess that when cementing silver with copper, tiny particles of metallic copper get separated from the bulk and are mixed with the cement silver. So rinsing won't help much, but electrolysis will. Sometimes Sreetips ran his pure silver crystal through the cell again, resulting no blue stain to the electrolyte. This proves that the single stage electrolysis properly takes care of the remaining copper.
Thanks for the refiner/buyer's contact info.👍🇺🇸
One thing Streetips doesn't really explain is the "Patriot Act" laws. Most refiners don't deal with the general public. You need to prove that you have some connection to precious metals such as jewelers and jewelry repairmen (which I believe mr. streetips falls under), pawn brokers, antiques dealers, coin shops, etc. You also need to furnish info such as business or resale licence numbers, tax id, etc. It sounded like the gentleman that Streetips spoke to on the phone briefly touched on some of the requirements but again, there are requirements when dealing with refiners.
@@calogero_t also depends on the state you're in.
Hey friend! Idk if you could explain, or direct me to one of your videos. Was wondering how you know between gold filled, and plated.
(plated I'd assume is easy as it shows easily on scratching, but filled appears THICK)
Try putting 14k test acid directly on the piece. The test acid will immediately penetrate the thin gold plating cause it to bubble, stink, and turn green. Gold filled, having a thick layer of karat gold over brass, will not react at all. I did this test in my latest gold filled video about a month ago: ruclips.net/video/IvTmptQhkIg/видео.html
@@sreetips Niceee Thank you master. Lmao you are so incredibly helpful.
Great stuff Kevin!! I'm very much interested in learning the safe way of processing my own gold, is there a site where i can get all the materials needed to conduct this at my house, i would need everything, filter system is that homemade or bought that way? Any info would be great!! Thanks again, i am absolutely intrigued by your videos!!
Got to have a fume hood. No way to do reactions without one.
What is the weight difference from gold liquid to precipitated out gold?
Chuck, I’ve not compared the two so I don’t know. But I did weight a flask of gold solution and then weighed it again with plain water and the difference was significant - see my electrolytic gold refining video (2 parts) for that video
I have a lot of gold in solution that I’ve been collecting for over a year now. Is there a place I could send a sample to be tested? I would need help precipitating my liquid. Is there a refinery that can perform that for me? How trustworthy would that process be?
@@pacificsun9594 I don’t know of any that will take solutions.
@sreetips
Once you get the gold you wanted, how do you make the gold into your property?
I trade paper dollars, that are declining in value, for gold, that’s rising in value.
@sreetips But I seen you stamp the gold that you extracted in some videos Where or what do you get those kind of tools to make the gold bar into yours
I bought stamps on eBay.
Is adding silver or copper really nesecerey?
Absolutely, without the extra silver or copper the nitric couldn’t penetrate.
@@sreetips thank you.
Do you do the same for platinum or palladium
No, gold and silver are like a cake recipe compared to platinum and palladium
Ok I have 22 oz. Of palladium had it for a few years I'm retiring soon guess it's time to cash it in
5:20 is that an old corning ware bowl?
Probably
Also, what would the result be if you stopped after the nitric acid boils, instead of carrying on to the aquaregia phase?
If the gold is going to a big refiner, who will throw it in his bin to be re-refined again anyway, then stopping and melting after the nitric boils is completely ok. But I always go the extra steps to maintain proficiency and to let the big refiner know that I know what I’m doing. Gives them less incentive to fudge the numbers. No room to fudge when pure gold is sent in
@@sreetips about what Karat is the gold after the nitric boils?
most excellent video, Sr. Chief!
Just a question, why don't you just cupel it to drive off the oxides and sell it to a refinery that pays you for the silver and gold content after it's been under the XRF "florescents test"
None of the professional refiners that I learned from used cupel. Not one.
@@sreetips thanks mate what's it cost approximately for all the nitric & hydrochloric acid, gas and everything that you use And your time plus the clean up and is there any real benefit to stripping the silver out when you would be paid for it anyway. Also can you get the silver out and into bar form? sorry for all the questions new to refining I'm a prospector I find gold I don't refine it it's worth more as a natural nuggets most of the time.
Colin, gold refining is my hobby. For this bar I would estimate the cost of refining to be less than $100, all in, less my time and the cost of the scrap.
“Stripping” the silver out of the gold with boiling nitric also pulls all the other base metals from the gold. When complete, the resulting gold is very close to three nines without any further refining. I save all the silver solutions and get that silver. Then I run it through my silver cell. Once purified it can be sold as-is or melted and poured into bars.
I refine gold as a hobby. Placer nuggets are typically between 18k and 22k - the ones that I’ve worked with. I make videos of the refining. These videos continue to produce ad revenue long after the refined gold has been sold. The real value is in the video. And that’s why I refine the gold. Plus, holding high purity gold in the palm of your hand, there is nothing like it. Especially if you refined it yourself, at home.
Hey, is 15k a good money for investing in golf scrap? And how do you get the scrap gold?
My wife buys most of it for me. After years of experience, she can spot real gold just by looking at it. There’s no substitute for experience.
This is just my opinion. Right now people are stuck on dollars that can be printed into existence out of thin air. Everything is priced in dollars because people have faith in these dollars. But this will change. Once people realize that all fiat, whether paper or digital, is worthless, then there will be a stampede into the metals. If you wait until then to “invest” in gold then it will be too late. I am slowly converting worthless paper, that is decreasing in value, into metals that are increasing in value. If I need paper to buy food or pay rent then I sell a little of my metal. Conclusions; when you “buy” metals think of it as converting the fake paper into real metal. And, don’t store your wealth in paper that’s decreasing in purchasing power. Store it in metals that will preserve your purchasing power.
What is the cost of the nitric acid ??? If you don't mind me asking , basically I would like to know if this is cost effective or mainly just a hobby to blow off some steam you know 🤔
Six 2.5 liter bottles .$289 delivered - for my last order.
Always interesting. I don't know if you read or reply to comments, but I am interested to know if you ever calculated the ROI? Not including the beakers and so forth, but the purchase of the gold, sterling and consumables like the acids. Thank you.
I’ve not done that. It’s my hobby and I don’t track expenses for each batch that I refine. I just buy the metals as cheap as I can. If I need paper to pay bills or to exchange for more metals, then I sell a little to raise cash.
@@sreetips Thank you. The videos are very informative. I appreciate the reply AND your recommendation to the Plot11 videos last week.