I always enjoy the videos you share! Especially this one! Thank you for the in-depth instructions and why you repeated the process several times! I appreciate all you do! 👍
Reputable businesses aren't going to screw you over -- Trust takes years to establish, you can't even buy trust, it's got to be earned. Screwing around over percentages isn't worth one's reputation. You screw people over and you're google infamous.
@@sreetips hey sreetips! New in the business at 24 years old and looking to learn where to find scrap silver/copper and learn to have the eye for it. Any insights?
Yes - there’s no substitute for experience. Learn how to spot fake stuff, get up early, be first in line cause the metal goes quickly. Estate sales, yard sales, thrift stores, consignment shops. Hope this helps
@@OvechkinRbk9k yard sales are great place to start for picking up 925 stamped sterling silver I’m new to this (hobby may be a poor choice of word) but everything from computers to phones to random equipment have precious metals but you really need to be careful there are some stamps that look like initials next to the xxkt most of the time it’s actually talking about how and what it was processed and not good for scrap there is a book a lot of smelters/refiners say is the Bible for this I forget what it is hit there is a discord for all this if someone else’s sees this and can help out!
I love your passion and energy for refining. You have definitely sparked an interest in me and I'm looking to invest in some equipment in the near future close to my retirement. Thank you for all you do, I really do appreciate it!
every time I watch one of your videos, I learn something new. Even if I have already seen the process in a previous video. Thank you very much, I have learned a lot with you
What a great video! I love watching your instructional videos! I’ve been a nurse for 27 years and I am looking to be able to replicate your process, possibly supplement income and be able to come home some. I joined the gold refining forum and I am going through and watching all of your videos, and taking notes. I’m not only interested in the final product but I’m also interested in the science and complexity of the process (done safely and correctly). I just wanted to tell you thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. It is so much appreciated! -KStreeter
@@sreetipshello and greetings. I wanted to let you know that I watch this video the day you put it on RUclips. I have watched countless hours of your content in a effort to learn and study how to refine gold. I am pleased to inform you that because of your knowledge and your willingness to share it I am able refine gold and make decent money doing so. As well as now I can successfully operate my silver cell that's a really cuts down my cost and gold refining has been able to grow my own silver. I saved my tax return from 2021 and 2022 to purchase all the equipment, chemicals, tools to refine gold in the manner that you do. Because your expert knowledge I was able to successfully refine 567 grams of 14k gold into a very profitable 24k gold bar ( my first time refineing gold by the way!!) that was .999 fine that I sold to the refinery you use and suggested in this video. because of you and you're love and passion I was able to get myself out of debt and I am no longer poor. I make a very good living by refining gold that earns me about $12,000 a month.I thank you from the bottom my heart for helping me out of poverty.
Fantastic wholistic video here, Sr. Chief! Thank you so much for sharing your personal refiner contact with us out here, I'll likely need it in a year or so. I've started hitting estate/yard sales for deals to collect metals and will eventually be setting up for refining in the future. Currently trying to find the best way to determine whether these unmarked knife handles are plated or not, but thinking I'll have to just take the samples I bought and hit them witn potassium dichromate after filing down or cutting into them, per the video you talk about testing for plating. Already checked for magnetism and they passed that. Those knife handles with stainless blades are a bit of a pain in the butt since they aren't marked sterling like forks and spoons. (Please let me know if you'd prefer I drop the rank in comments... I haven't served in the military, myself, but my father was a SSgt/E-5 when he got out of the USAF in the early 70's and came home from Saigon, so I use it with the utmost respect and want to be sure it's received as such.)
Great video Kevin! The last part with the refiner call was very informative. Question: When are we going to see another waste bucket refining? Want to see more Palladium/Platinum extraction from that!
I have that same #3 graphite crucible 18:47 It can crack if heated to quickly, so incrementally add heat over 5-10 minutes. I dont want to see that happen when you melt your cemented silver in the future. I recommend buying a salamander crucible they dont need any pre heat
One thing that stands out is how beautiful the pure solutions look, and I'll bet that the camera doesn't do them justice. Anyway, $14k for the bar at the current spot price. Not bad for a day's work.
You're one of the few that add HNO3 a little at a time. I've been refining for years and have always done it this way. Why spend hours of needless "boildowns"? Recently I sold my Rh that I've saved through the years. A lot of jewelers used to plate Rh behind the stones to catch the light. Tho individually in very small amounts, through the years it built up. I even got it to melt using mapp gas fusion that took 3 hrs., 3 seperate melts. What fun. Goes to show ya anybody with a little common sense can do anything he sets his/her mind to do. My daughter follows in my footstep. Great Video. Look forward to catching more.
Richard, I know that I have rhodium in my wastes. I’m totally knowledge less about how to test, recover and refine rhodium. I’m running out of time. My daughter is into real estate and just bought some bitcoin. I tried to discourage her. But she’s just like me - stubborn streak a mile long. She won’t buy gold, listens to Dave Ramsey. But she’ll get the kind of expensive education that making unwise decisions brings. Congrats on your daughter following in your footsteps. I can’t complain, my daughter is doing better than I am and for that I’m grateful.
@@sreetips Most of my Rh was plated to the Au just under the diamonds,emeralds,rubies,etc. My refining method on scrap Au is a little but not much different than yours. I usually take the time to seperate the stone settings. Place these in Aqua-regia solution. As the Au dissolves the Rh will float around like your gold filled scrap floating on your HNO3. I retrieve them by filtering and place in a repository, where I'll try not to forget them for another 10 years. Yep, i had placed the marked container when i moved, in the garage. Oops! Any way we all make mistakes. Got 2 ozs. out of it. Something else you might consider is selling your brown powder Au to local jewelers. The ones i dealt with in the past would pay a premium on it. easy to weigh and mix for whatever their alloy. Easier to weigh powder than wire, plus they could make their own colorful alloys. They love it.
Rhodium has got ahold of me. Now I’m obsessed with recovering and refining some so I can make a video of it for my channel. Thanks for the info. I can tell when folks know what their talking about - and you’re one of them.
@@sreetips The best book i ever had for learning was the 1948 Chemistry and physics handbook. For some reason that book seems to be the hardest to find. Most of my experience came through the mining industry.Worked at Magma for a few years. Found Pd in Au alloy. People were selling there gold thinking it had Ag alloy. Proved with a paper trail how they were getting ripped-off. 1 ton of rock yeilded 7oz.Au 1oz Pd. Sold both as seperate elements. Most of the Rh i gathered thru the years was from behind the gemstones. It would float on the surface like your gold plate. By the way,a lot of older custume jewelry was plated with the same. Little known secret i just let out of the bag. Work with your refiner,some like it alloyed with Cu. It's rather unique because it depends on what it's alloyed with. Think of the tons of sludge those electrolitic cell produce a day at the big mining smelter operations. They all have the platinum group sister in them.
I've got quite a good deal of rhodium and tantalum so I'm very grateful for your including their information in this video because now I know where/who I now can send that stuff over to !! Thanks bigtime streetips !!!
TIP... either heat your dish from the bottom or heat the whole thing in a furnace so you don't reach excessively high temperatures during melting... excess heat will vaporise some of the gold ( gold will start to "evaporate" as little as 1500 deg C.. which is easily reached with propane/oxy mixed gas) ...in a furnace or heating from under the dish will keep your temp just above melting point so you lose nothing.
Very informative, and thank you. The shipping is key because having one of these bars go missing would be very bad. I'm assuming one would want to insure the bars for full value if possible. My other concern is shipping internationally. I'm in Alberta, Canada (ie: Texas North, with similar freedom-centric leanings), so shipping to the US (and getting paid in US dollars rather than Canadian "pesos") is important. But that is a secondary concern compared to having either the bars seized by customs or the money frozen in Canadian banking institutions by our rogue government. They've already demonstrated this tendency when they froze the accounts of Canadians suspected of financially supporting the trucker convoys in early 2022. It might be better to open a US-based account to handle funds generated in this manner....
@@kueapel911 Justin is a coward, but neither guts nor intelligence are required to bark out orders when he firmly believes he's untouchable. All he needs to be a tyrant is the protection and guidance provided by the puppet-masters who control him - and to have just enough narcissism and idiocy to fall in love with his own voice.
One thing Streetips doesn't really explain is the "Patriot Act" laws. Most refiners don't deal with the general public. You need to prove that you have some connection to precious metals such as jewelers and jewelry repairmen (which I believe mr. streetips falls under), pawn brokers, antiques dealers, coin shops, etc. You also need to furnish info such as business or resale licence numbers, tax id, etc. It sounded like the gentleman that Streetips spoke to on the phone briefly touched on some of the requirements but again, there are requirements when dealing with refiners.
Sterling silver, karat gold, inquarted gold, and last but not least, pure gold. You always have the prettiest colors in your videos. lol Oh! I was forgetting my favorite orange, chloroauric acid! Thanks, Sr. 🙂🙋♂️
Hey, have to say wouw, love the way you monetize the acid for the next process, thinking ahead is always a good idea, and the thoroughness of procedures are awesome, outstanding effort, nice one Streetips, excellent job.
Hey Sreetips. I love your videos. I’m curious, could you use some of your cement silver to enquart the gold instead of purchasing silverware to melt down?
Not recommended. Palladium follows silver because it’s soluble in nitric. The palladium tends to build up in the cement silver if used to inquart. High concentrations of palladium causes it (the palladium) to get into the silver cell electrolyte. High concentrations of palladium in the electrolyte could cause palladium to plate out with the silver and contaminate the pure silver crystal. But contaminated silver is not the concern. Palladium is almost 80 times more valuable than silver.
Thank you sir for the info on where to sell gold. Right now I'm gathering gold after that the chemicals and tools for refining . It's going to be fun and as always safety is first. Thanks again
I've never refined or messed with gold at all... After watching a days worth of your videos, I literally feel like I could refine pure gold and even sell it!... The only thing I haven't seen is the calculations for how much initial nitric acid to use based on weight, or how much silver to add based on purity and weight.... Really educational.... After enough videos (a lot of fast forwarding) I can predict every move and I understand what I am seeing.
Could you take the powdered silver straight to the silver cell instead of melting it into larger granules? Is it too fine and might go through the filter cloth that you make the basket from? Love your videos. It is a fascinating process to watch.
Great stuff Kevin!! I'm very much interested in learning the safe way of processing my own gold, is there a site where i can get all the materials needed to conduct this at my house, i would need everything, filter system is that homemade or bought that way? Any info would be great!! Thanks again, i am absolutely intrigued by your videos!!
Excellent video; really interesting; thanks! I’d be interested to know if the the effort involved in refining your own carat scrap, with the time & cost of reagents, if there’s any advantage over just sending your scrap straight to the refiner? That’s what we tend to do in UK. Thanks for the fascinating video!
Refiner doesn’t usually give credit for silver or platinum. I get to keep those. Plus the refiner doesn’t have much wiggle room when I send in pure gold. But it’s probably not that much different.
@@sreetips I saw on another video you said you get 98% from the refiner. Have they ever tried to say that what you sent was as good a quality as you knew it to be?
They test with xrf to determine payout. Comes back three nines every time. They (the big refiner that I sell to) contacted me and wanted me to refine gold filled scrap for some of their clients. I respectfully declined because I only work on my own material.
If I use Clean Copper instead of Sterling Silver do the calculations for the amounts remain the same? Thank you again for all the videos. They're very informative and fun to watch.
I worked in biotechnology and would boil down 1500 grams of cow bone with 12 liters of 6M acid down to 3 liters. I was purifying a bone maker from the cow bone. My point is I thought I was dealing with some nasty stuff but some of those acids you use during that process is scary.
Hey Sreetips! Big fan of your work - I think it's really encouraging to see people carve their own path business-wise in our day. I'm not sure if you'll see this, but if you do, I'd love to know your thoughts on shipping insurance when selling to a place such as ARA. Namely, do you think it's worth it? For example, a carrier like USPS only insures up to $5000 for a priority shipment. If someone were shipping GF scrap with a yield estimate of ~2.5 ozT to a company like ARA, their cost would be ~$700 ($200 for shipping and insurance, and ~$500 for ARA's cut), or just under 15% of the value of their gold. Do you reckon that's worth it so long as they bought all of their GF scrap at at least a 15% profit?
When I used with ARA I shipped via usps registered mail insured. It’s their most secure method. It stays locked up the entire shipment. But it can take up to ten days to arrive. Today I use elemetal direct $14 shipping. They provide the containers and insurance. I’ve never sent in GF material. I’ve only sent in three nines pure gold ingots. Gives them no room to wiggle on the pay out.
Idk how I got here but RUclips blessed me. I wanted inform myself on precious metal's as I wanna expand my investing to not be 100% on stock's. This video and channel is awesome 👌
Does the refinery give you more for the gold you process vs. the gold that's in carot gold? Is it worth the time and materials it takes to refine it yourself?
They have zero room to fudge on the payout. Plus I get to keep the silver and PGMs in the karat scrap by refining it myself. Other than that, the only reason I refine is because I love it. I can’t not do it.
What an awesome video, I have a lot of computer CPU’s and memory cards and old nasa electrical terminal’sI need to get refined, who do you recommend? I’d love to see you do it and watch the video, that would be cool. Thanks.
@@sreetips , that’s cool, I also metal detect 3 times a week, I’ve accumulated a lot of silver and gold rings over the last year, looks identical to what you worked with. Any way, you’re video was the most informative process I’ve seen on refining gold and silver ever. Thanks for sharing and responding.
WRT cement silver, you said, “then I rinse all the copper off it.” But subsequent steps in your silver refining process suggest that that doesn’t quite happen. After all the phrase you use for your shot is “impure silver shot” and your electrolytic chamber becomes blue as the Pacific with (copper nitrate?) You’re still rinsing rinsing rinsing this stuff off at the end of process from your pure silver crystal. I gotta say, and I say it with love because Mr Sreetips you are awesome, but this appears to be a major weakness in your workflow. Have you ever attempted to brainstorm a better way to rinse your cement silver?
Two points here: #1, as long as the copper concentration is kept below 60 grams per liter in the electrolyte, and voltage (current flow will vary) is kept at 3.5 volts, then the copper will not plate out in the cell with the pure silver crystal. #2, according to GoldSilverPro on the goldrefiningforum.com (one of the professional refiners that I learned from) a small amount of copper in the electrolyte, like what you get when traces of copper in the impure shot start to build up in the electrolyte as it dissolves, improves the crystal structure. It promotes fat crystal growth. I learned from the best. Their methods are tried and true.
I guess that when cementing silver with copper, tiny particles of metallic copper get separated from the bulk and are mixed with the cement silver. So rinsing won't help much, but electrolysis will. Sometimes Sreetips ran his pure silver crystal through the cell again, resulting no blue stain to the electrolyte. This proves that the single stage electrolysis properly takes care of the remaining copper.
Woou! Sir I am very impresses with that wouenderful information. You are a Master never saw a perfect video like this I am glad saw it for the first time I am so much enjoyed and learn all the ditel. Thank you so much.
@Owen the same way you would any other time. If ur adding silver to ur gold to incourt it using a furnace to melt everything would just speed up the melting process. That way you don't have to melt the gold then melt/mix in the silver
Have you ever tried placing a one of the rinses on the ultrasonic cleaner? Not poured into but just put the beaker on top of it? It seems like it could get into the gold or silver powder better than just a swirl.
Great one thank you. I am buying a Water tote to make a fume hood with. 275-gallon acid resistant, it has a built-in drain system to a threaded pipe. It will catch all boilovers to a drainpipe into a waste bucket? Semi tailor for a lab. The walls are that government green.
We buy scrap gold at local sales for very cheap because people don’t understand that gold is more valuable than paper dollars. The karat scrap is usually stamped but not alway. But you can’t always go by the marking.
Always interesting. I don't know if you read or reply to comments, but I am interested to know if you ever calculated the ROI? Not including the beakers and so forth, but the purchase of the gold, sterling and consumables like the acids. Thank you.
I’ve not done that. It’s my hobby and I don’t track expenses for each batch that I refine. I just buy the metals as cheap as I can. If I need paper to pay bills or to exchange for more metals, then I sell a little to raise cash.
I really enjoy your videos. They are very educational as well as entertaining. My hobby is metal detecting and I am an over the road truck driver. Your videos prevent me from going to sleep when I really should be sleeping. LOL. Keep up the great videos.
Where is the equal point between value of gold/silver vs cost of nitric used to inquart here? And why go this route instead of aqua regia? I’m asking as a serious learning point question because i haven’t a clue and am genuinely trying to learn, not critique or whatever. I love love love watching your videos. I learn something every single time, even if it’s a rewatch. I will pick up on something i missed earlier. Thank you so much for your channel and the sharing you do.
I don’t know equal point because I’ve not calculated it. Inquarting with silver or copper lowers the gold content. Then the nitric can get everything out before going to aqua regia. Trying to dissolve the karat gold without inquarting creates problems with a very dirty solution and passivation.
@@sreetips I just got to the point in the video where you explained that. My bad. Should’ve been patient and known you would explain the refining points. Thank you sir. Please keep up the good work! One day I’m going to be able to buy some of your eBay offers and that stamp of yours will be more valuable than the metal, to me anyway!
Thank you for your recommendation of ARA Gold. I got a quote from my local coin Co on some scrape gold I had and they offered my $820 - ARA paid me $1,052 and gold spot price had gone down a bit. Great suggestion!
@@WilXliFY I have an S-Corp and provided that information. Otherwise they will pay you but at a slightly reduced rate. ARA paid 98% of spot with my S-Corp.
If you just slightly crumble the gold with glass stick after every nitric acid bath .then it will be easier for nitric acid to penetrate the gold quickly and you will need only 3 nitric acid baths to purify gold to 23.99 karat.
We don’t want to crush the gold because it will form nano particles that don’t settle well. Or worse, colloidal gold. Then separation of the liquid from the silver becomes a nightmare.
Hi sreetips. I was just checking into nitric acid substitute sodium nitric and as a beginner refiner to a intermediate beginner refiner I’d like to get your opinion on it. Is it something you have ever used and continue to use or do you just use nitric 70% and what is your preference to one another.
mooo ;) Is there a time when your acid gets 'worn out' so to speak, and you reconstitute it? Was wondering how the acid+base=salt+water thing would work with multiple acids. Multiple mixed salts would be my bet, but I was onto other things after the 200 level.
Question. Do you need to be a business to send in to this company or need a tax EIN #? I been collecting urban gold for two years now and other than watching vids on how to extract and refine it all, I simply do not know what to do with it. As you said this process is 50 percent mental. Knowledge = confidence = competence. Your vids give the most knowledge and i appreciate that. I still lack the confidence as I believe I understand 10 percent of what i need to. This leads me to believe I need to send it in as is.
I'd like to know the ingot's weigh when it is steadily suspended in water by a thinnest wire without touching the bottom. The dry weigh divided by the wet weigh is the density of the ingot. The closer to 19,3 g/cm3, the most pure is the gold.
Every week sreetips gets close to catching up and then Mrs. Sreetips comes in with a bag of mixed gold and silver from the antique shops and sreetips just starts to tear up. Just a little.
Imagine sreetips dies in an accident and his heirs come and see the big bucket with the grey powder and the beakers with the colored liquids: Whats that crap, throw it in the bin, but keep the bucket and sell the beakers, that might give us a bit of money.
@@adamabele785 sreetips recently went to the doctor for a wellness check. Everything was fine but he had a copay. The receptionist asked how he'd be paying and he gave her a vial of silver crystals because the damn stuff was just piling up at home. :D
@@sreetips you’d be surprised by how many people I’ve ran into that won’t accept gold or silver and rather have fiat currency. It pains my soul. There is actually videos on RUclips where some guy try’s to give away gold and people won’t take it. Probably some of them think there is some sort of catch but most of them just don’t want it. It’s utterly amazing, and I myself have seen it first hand.
Is there any benefit of refining before selling to refinery? Becasue in my country gold price is the same no matter karat. So it is more profitable to just melt it and sell as is, than to waste time, chemicals, energy to refine it.
There’s no need to even melt it. The karat gold can be sent in just like it is. I refine it first because I love doing it. Plus, it lets the refiner know that I know what I’m doing. Gives less wiggle room when my pay out is determined. And even though it’s not much, I get to keep the silver and other precious metals in the karat gold. Big refiners normally only pay you for the gold. They keep the other metals for themselves. People forget about this or they don’t know about it. Karat scrap contains silver and platinum group metals. This is how they can afford to pay 98% of spot for your gold. And, every refiner will end up cheating the customer, eventually. That’s part of the reason I refuse to refine other peoples material.
Why not use pure silver instead of sterling when inquarting? The only things I kow about refining is whatever I learned watching you but it seems like not having the copper ''contamination'' would make for easier refining of the silver afterwards?
Just curious, what’s your margin after paying for scrap and the needed chemicals? Not counting the 100s of hours of your time? I have only watched a few vids but have not seen a reference to costs and sale price…
At todays price in the UK that lump you've made is worth just over 12k GBP. How much have you spent on scrap gold/silver and chemicals to produce that? And what is the process for refining the silver... And what is the rough outlay and return for doing that? Thank you sir 👍
Not sure, this is my hobby so I don’t track expenses for each batch. But we did manage to pay off a quarter million $ in debt over two years - with GOLD.
Hey @sreetips. Love your videos. I reckon that shirt of yours needs to be incinerated and the remnants processed for precious metals. Maybe a 150k subscriber special ? 😂😂
I like how you don’t waste the silver. As someone like myself that has no idea what this is about. It’s interesting that you have to add silver to get it where you need it, but then the silver is disposed of...but not wasted as you apparently cement it out (as you say)
How often do you clean the silver jars that are used for the pour offs of the nitric with the Sterling inside? Is there much gold/mud in with them? Always wonder as there’ll be silver in that you don’t like going in your stock pot
I keep piece of undissolved silver and boil those silver jars to ensure that all the free nitric is gone. However, there is gold mud and gold foils that settle to the bottom. After a few months accumulation, I add nitric to completely dissolve all the silver in the silver jar - so that there is plenty of boiling nitric AND NO PIECES OF SILVER LEFT AT ALL. Then I filter all the gold mud and gold foils and capture them in a specially prepared filter. Once I have the solids in the filter I rinse with much hot distilled water to remove as much silver as possible. Then I add the filter to my filter storage and save it. Once I’ve accumulated enough filters, I burn them to a fine ash and then process them for the gold and other precious metals that they contain. The clear filtered solution will have excess free nitric. I add that back to the silver jar and put in more sterling silver to consume it all and keep the silver jar going.
Shouldent u filter the distillered water after putting in the sulfuric acid to get the percipetated lead out and only then continue with disolving the gold?❤❤
Streetips I have a question to you,is it possible for the gold ore, the pyrites to become real gold, tell me how and on what process,and I am waiting for your responds sooner or later.
Do you do this for fun or are you able to source scrap cheaply and make a profit off refining? I just imagine all that nitric acid and materials getting really expensive.
Hey friend! Idk if you could explain, or direct me to one of your videos. Was wondering how you know between gold filled, and plated. (plated I'd assume is easy as it shows easily on scratching, but filled appears THICK)
Try putting 14k test acid directly on the piece. The test acid will immediately penetrate the thin gold plating cause it to bubble, stink, and turn green. Gold filled, having a thick layer of karat gold over brass, will not react at all. I did this test in my latest gold filled video about a month ago: ruclips.net/video/IvTmptQhkIg/видео.html
The first part is all really great but are there better ways to do this with less HNO3 waste? Such as boiling the inquartated metal in a flask and condensing all the vapours into more aqua fortis rather than let go up in smoke? A two neck flask might be employed so that the liquids could be siphoned out and replaced easily. Or doing smaller batches, where there is enough water, acid, metal for all Ag to go into solution in one or two passes? Seven or eight looks labour intensive. I thought about how the old school chemists had tops for their alembics where the vapours condensed and were collected. Something like that which could fit onto a beaker, or a modified beaker so all of the red smoke could be collected and reused. But could also be quickly and easily removed and replaced. A modern version of that might be a reaction flask that has a circular clip that holds the lid down. Its basically a round bottom beaker. It has a ground glass joint to add whatever condenser you like to it. If it were a reflux setup, all the red fume would condense and drip back in to help with the reaction. Zero waste. Or putting the inquartated metal with dry nitre crystals and heating them in a reaction flask or large crucible with lid, dry. Then washing the silver nitrate out once cooled. Is that done? KNO3 melts at 320°C so I'd imagine it wouldn't need to be much hotter.
One question; if there are excess nitric acid when you pour it into the silver jar - why dont you just boil it for longer? Nitric Acid is expensive and difficult to procure ( at least where I live).
I add pieces of silver to consume all the excess nitric acid. A small amount of free nitric is required for the silver to react with the copper and cement out of the solution
Use hot water and put it in freezer as hot then the ice cubes will be also pure if your ice cube is cloudy it means it contains impurities ice will be clear if you freeze hot water
What is the cost of the nitric acid ??? If you don't mind me asking , basically I would like to know if this is cost effective or mainly just a hobby to blow off some steam you know 🤔
I’ve watched hundred of videos by now and I have yet to think about you having a gold cell for crystalline gold just like the sliver cell… i know you had that gold cell to remove plated gold jewelry but a lot different then the AG cell…
I always enjoy the videos you share! Especially this one! Thank you for the in-depth instructions and why you repeated the process several times! I appreciate all you do! 👍
I appreciate how precise the language you use is. It's a lost art, using the exact amount of words to describe a process without over explaining.
Id be nervous af sending gold in, id probably have to go take it in person and wont let go of the bar til they give me the money lol
Reputable businesses aren't going to screw you over -- Trust takes years to establish, you can't even buy trust, it's got to be earned. Screwing around over percentages isn't worth one's reputation. You screw people over and you're google infamous.
One of my mentors used to say, “sooner or later, the refiner will end up cheating the customer.”
@@sreetips hey sreetips! New in the business at 24 years old and looking to learn where to find scrap silver/copper and learn to have the eye for it.
Any insights?
Yes - there’s no substitute for experience. Learn how to spot fake stuff, get up early, be first in line cause the metal goes quickly. Estate sales, yard sales, thrift stores, consignment shops. Hope this helps
@@OvechkinRbk9k yard sales are great place to start for picking up 925 stamped sterling silver I’m new to this (hobby may be a poor choice of word) but everything from computers to phones to random equipment have precious metals but you really need to be careful there are some stamps that look like initials next to the xxkt most of the time it’s actually talking about how and what it was processed and not good for scrap there is a book a lot of smelters/refiners say is the Bible for this I forget what it is hit there is a discord for all this if someone else’s sees this and can help out!
@Sreetips what a wonderful service to demonstrate the process of dealing with the large refiners! Thank you 😊
I love your passion and energy for refining. You have definitely sparked an interest in me and I'm looking to invest in some equipment in the near future close to my retirement. Thank you for all you do, I really do appreciate it!
Really enjoy watching this channel. Makes me want to get into this as a hobby.
every time I watch one of your videos, I learn something new. Even if I have already seen the process in a previous video. Thank you very much, I have learned a lot with you
This channel is the best source of free entertainment during a pandemic....and it’s educational as well.
Thank you for these!
Here you are still watching it.
What a great video! I love watching your instructional videos! I’ve been a nurse for 27 years and I am looking to be able to replicate your process, possibly supplement income and be able to come home some. I joined the gold refining forum and I am going through and watching all of your videos, and taking notes. I’m not only interested in the final product but I’m also interested in the science and complexity of the process (done safely and correctly). I just wanted to tell you thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. It is so much appreciated! -KStreeter
Excellent, thank you for those kind words my friend
@@sreetipshello and greetings. I wanted to let you know that I watch this video the day you put it on RUclips. I have watched countless hours of your content in a effort to learn and study how to refine gold. I am pleased to inform you that because of your knowledge and your willingness to share it I am able refine gold and make decent money doing so. As well as now I can successfully operate my silver cell that's a really cuts down my cost and gold refining has been able to grow my own silver. I saved my tax return from 2021 and 2022 to purchase all the equipment, chemicals, tools to refine gold in the manner that you do. Because your expert knowledge I was able to successfully refine 567 grams of 14k gold into a very profitable 24k gold bar ( my first time refineing gold by the way!!) that was .999 fine that I sold to the refinery you use and suggested in this video. because of you and you're love and passion I was able to get myself out of debt and I am no longer poor. I make a very good living by refining gold that earns me about $12,000 a month.I thank you from the bottom my heart for helping me out of poverty.
Fantastic wholistic video here, Sr. Chief! Thank you so much for sharing your personal refiner contact with us out here, I'll likely need it in a year or so. I've started hitting estate/yard sales for deals to collect metals and will eventually be setting up for refining in the future.
Currently trying to find the best way to determine whether these unmarked knife handles are plated or not, but thinking I'll have to just take the samples I bought and hit them witn potassium dichromate after filing down or cutting into them, per the video you talk about testing for plating. Already checked for magnetism and they passed that. Those knife handles with stainless blades are a bit of a pain in the butt since they aren't marked sterling like forks and spoons.
(Please let me know if you'd prefer I drop the rank in comments... I haven't served in the military, myself, but my father was a SSgt/E-5 when he got out of the USAF in the early 70's and came home from Saigon, so I use it with the utmost respect and want to be sure it's received as such.)
SSgt= E6...
That is one huge beautiful solid bar of gold you produced Sreetips. Cool stuff bud.
Great video Kevin! The last part with the refiner call was very informative. Question: When are we going to see another waste bucket refining? Want to see more Palladium/Platinum extraction from that!
Coming soon!
I don't care what anyone says... You are hands down, the best. Fantastic video!!!!
Phenomenal job with this video. Highly professional as well as stayed interesting throughout. Keep up the great work!
Yeah that's awesome how you recorded the call and asked questions for everyone viewing. Thanks man
I have that same #3 graphite crucible 18:47
It can crack if heated to quickly, so incrementally add heat over 5-10 minutes. I dont want to see that happen when you melt your cemented silver in the future. I recommend buying a salamander crucible they dont need any pre heat
I love how the top looks when you keep the torch on the pour out
Watching that SMB cloud roll around at the bottom never gets old streettips
One thing that stands out is how beautiful the pure solutions look, and I'll bet that the camera doesn't do them justice. Anyway, $14k for the bar at the current spot price. Not bad for a day's work.
It never gets old watching gold drop out of solution
Precipitated gold is probably the sneakiest way to hide it in your gardening gear...
@@moviezaftermidnight6348 you know, I think just straight up putting this kind of gold in a flower pot might be a good move
You're one of the few that add HNO3 a little at a time. I've been refining for years and have always done it this way. Why spend hours of needless "boildowns"? Recently I sold my Rh that I've saved through the years. A lot of jewelers used to plate Rh behind the stones to catch the light. Tho individually in very small amounts, through the years it built up. I even got it to melt using mapp gas fusion that took 3 hrs., 3 seperate melts. What fun. Goes to show ya anybody with a little common sense can do anything he sets his/her mind to do. My daughter follows in my footstep. Great Video. Look forward to catching more.
Richard, I know that I have rhodium in my wastes. I’m totally knowledge less about how to test, recover and refine rhodium. I’m running out of time. My daughter is into real estate and just bought some bitcoin. I tried to discourage her. But she’s just like me - stubborn streak a mile long. She won’t buy gold, listens to Dave Ramsey. But she’ll get the kind of expensive education that making unwise decisions brings. Congrats on your daughter following in your footsteps. I can’t complain, my daughter is doing better than I am and for that I’m grateful.
@@sreetips Most of my Rh was plated to the Au just under the diamonds,emeralds,rubies,etc. My refining method on scrap Au is a little but not much different than yours. I usually take the time to seperate the stone settings. Place these in Aqua-regia solution. As the Au dissolves the Rh will float around like your gold filled scrap floating on your HNO3. I retrieve them by filtering and place in a repository, where I'll try not to forget them for another 10 years. Yep, i had placed the marked container when i moved, in the garage. Oops! Any way we all make mistakes. Got 2 ozs. out of it. Something else you might consider is selling your brown powder Au to local jewelers. The ones i dealt with in the past would pay a premium on it. easy to weigh and mix for whatever their alloy. Easier to weigh powder than wire, plus they could make their own colorful alloys. They love it.
Rhodium has got ahold of me. Now I’m obsessed with recovering and refining some so I can make a video of it for my channel. Thanks for the info. I can tell when folks know what their talking about - and you’re one of them.
@@sreetips The best book i ever had for learning was the 1948 Chemistry and physics handbook. For some reason that book seems to be the hardest to find. Most of my experience came through the mining industry.Worked at Magma for a few years. Found Pd in Au alloy. People were selling there gold thinking it had Ag alloy. Proved with a paper trail how they were getting ripped-off. 1 ton of rock yeilded 7oz.Au 1oz Pd. Sold both as seperate elements. Most of the Rh i gathered thru the years was from behind the gemstones. It would float on the surface like your gold plate. By the way,a lot of older custume jewelry was plated with the same. Little known secret i just let out of the bag. Work with your refiner,some like it alloyed with Cu. It's rather unique because it depends on what it's alloyed with. Think of the tons of sludge those electrolitic cell produce a day at the big mining smelter operations. They all have the platinum group sister in them.
So nice of you for publishing info about your buyer. Continue doing a great job 👍
I've got quite a good deal of rhodium and tantalum so I'm very grateful for your including their information in this video because now I know where/who I now can send that stuff over to !! Thanks bigtime streetips !!!
Like tantalum capacitors? Tantalum is worth a fortune
I love those poor pour lines on your melts. Good info to know if needing to sell or exchange.
It's shrinkage, happens when it cools down.. tucks inside.
That was awesome, very informative. I really appreciate your time, you answered many of the questions I was wondering about. Keep up the great work!
TIP... either heat your dish from the bottom or heat the whole thing in a furnace so you don't reach excessively high temperatures during melting... excess heat will vaporise some of the gold ( gold will start to "evaporate" as little as 1500 deg C.. which is easily reached with propane/oxy mixed gas) ...in a furnace or heating from under the dish will keep your temp just above melting point so you lose nothing.
Excellent, thank you
Loved the info at the end. It was great to see you call a place and get a feel for how to finalize the transactions if you have precious metal
Very informative, and thank you. The shipping is key because having one of these bars go missing would be very bad. I'm assuming one would want to insure the bars for full value if possible.
My other concern is shipping internationally. I'm in Alberta, Canada (ie: Texas North, with similar freedom-centric leanings), so shipping to the US (and getting paid in US dollars rather than Canadian "pesos") is important.
But that is a secondary concern compared to having either the bars seized by customs or the money frozen in Canadian banking institutions by our rogue government. They've already demonstrated this tendency when they froze the accounts of Canadians suspected of financially supporting the trucker convoys in early 2022. It might be better to open a US-based account to handle funds generated in this manner....
damn, didn't imagine that soy trudeau boy would really have the gut to do that kind of authoritarian bullcrap
@@kueapel911 Justin is a coward, but neither guts nor intelligence are required to bark out orders when he firmly believes he's untouchable. All he needs to be a tyrant is the protection and guidance provided by the puppet-masters who control him - and to have just enough narcissism and idiocy to fall in love with his own voice.
I’m from Alberta as well! CheeRs ♻️💪🏻
Thank you for sharing your unselfish skills and knowledge and of course your buyers details. That is very kind of you. Much appreciated. Cheers.
Love your videos. Why sterling to enquart? Wouldn't silver plate scrap work? I've seen you use copper before.
I refine sterling.
Thanks for the refiner/buyer's contact info.👍🇺🇸
One thing Streetips doesn't really explain is the "Patriot Act" laws. Most refiners don't deal with the general public. You need to prove that you have some connection to precious metals such as jewelers and jewelry repairmen (which I believe mr. streetips falls under), pawn brokers, antiques dealers, coin shops, etc. You also need to furnish info such as business or resale licence numbers, tax id, etc. It sounded like the gentleman that Streetips spoke to on the phone briefly touched on some of the requirements but again, there are requirements when dealing with refiners.
@@calogero_t also depends on the state you're in.
Sree has done it again. Excellent video.
Sterling silver, karat gold, inquarted gold, and last but not least, pure gold. You always have the prettiest colors in your videos. lol
Oh! I was forgetting my favorite orange, chloroauric acid!
Thanks, Sr. 🙂🙋♂️
Hey, have to say wouw, love the way you monetize the acid for the next process, thinking ahead is always a good idea, and the thoroughness of procedures are awesome, outstanding effort, nice one Streetips, excellent job.
Hey Sreetips. I love your videos. I’m curious, could you use some of your cement silver to enquart the gold instead of purchasing silverware to melt down?
Not recommended. Palladium follows silver because it’s soluble in nitric. The palladium tends to build up in the cement silver if used to inquart. High concentrations of palladium causes it (the palladium) to get into the silver cell electrolyte. High concentrations of palladium in the electrolyte could cause palladium to plate out with the silver and contaminate the pure silver crystal. But contaminated silver is not the concern. Palladium is almost 80 times more valuable than silver.
Thank you sir for the info on where to sell gold. Right now I'm gathering gold after that the chemicals and tools for refining . It's going to be fun and as always safety is first. Thanks again
I've never refined or messed with gold at all... After watching a days worth of your videos, I literally feel like I could refine pure gold and even sell it!... The only thing I haven't seen is the calculations for how much initial nitric acid to use based on weight, or how much silver to add based on purity and weight.... Really educational.... After enough videos (a lot of fast forwarding) I can predict every move and I understand what I am seeing.
Calculating how much silver to add is just basic math. The hard part is acquiring the scrap gold for refining,
Could you take the powdered silver straight to the silver cell instead of melting it into larger granules? Is it too fine and might go through the filter cloth that you make the basket from? Love your videos. It is a fascinating process to watch.
Great stuff Kevin!! I'm very much interested in learning the safe way of processing my own gold, is there a site where i can get all the materials needed to conduct this at my house, i would need everything, filter system is that homemade or bought that way? Any info would be great!! Thanks again, i am absolutely intrigued by your videos!!
Got to have a fume hood. No way to do reactions without one.
Excellent video; really interesting; thanks! I’d be interested to know if the the effort involved in refining your own carat scrap, with the time & cost of reagents, if there’s any advantage over just sending your scrap straight to the refiner? That’s what we tend to do in UK. Thanks for the fascinating video!
Refiner doesn’t usually give credit for silver or platinum. I get to keep those. Plus the refiner doesn’t have much wiggle room when I send in pure gold. But it’s probably not that much different.
@@sreetips I saw on another video you said you get 98% from the refiner. Have they ever tried to say that what you sent was as good a quality as you knew it to be?
They test with xrf to determine payout. Comes back three nines every time. They (the big refiner that I sell to) contacted me and wanted me to refine gold filled scrap for some of their clients. I respectfully declined because I only work on my own material.
@@sreetips speaks well for your reputation. Love your videos. Wish I could go shopping with Mrs. S.
I’ve watched several of your videos and they are very educational and interesting
If I use Clean Copper instead of Sterling Silver do the calculations for the amounts remain the same? Thank you again for all the videos. They're very informative and fun to watch.
Yes
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I worked in biotechnology and would boil down 1500 grams of cow bone with 12 liters of 6M acid down to 3 liters. I was purifying a bone maker from the cow bone. My point is I thought I was dealing with some nasty stuff but some of those acids you use during that process is scary.
I really liked the unintentional tree ring pattern on the Gold seen in the Video's thumbnail. 👍🏻🙏🏴
Do you use distilled water for you ice cubes? And thanks for the viedo.
Hey Sreetips! Big fan of your work - I think it's really encouraging to see people carve their own path business-wise in our day. I'm not sure if you'll see this, but if you do, I'd love to know your thoughts on shipping insurance when selling to a place such as ARA. Namely, do you think it's worth it? For example, a carrier like USPS only insures up to $5000 for a priority shipment. If someone were shipping GF scrap with a yield estimate of ~2.5 ozT to a company like ARA, their cost would be ~$700 ($200 for shipping and insurance, and ~$500 for ARA's cut), or just under 15% of the value of their gold. Do you reckon that's worth it so long as they bought all of their GF scrap at at least a 15% profit?
When I used with ARA I shipped via usps registered mail insured. It’s their most secure method. It stays locked up the entire shipment. But it can take up to ten days to arrive. Today I use elemetal direct $14 shipping. They provide the containers and insurance. I’ve never sent in GF material. I’ve only sent in three nines pure gold ingots. Gives them no room to wiggle on the pay out.
@35:32 wait for it! Give it 10 seconds. "what a sight to behold!" Amazing bar!
Idk how I got here but RUclips blessed me. I wanted inform myself on precious metal's as I wanna expand my investing to not be 100% on stock's. This video and channel is awesome 👌
Does the refinery give you more for the gold you process vs. the gold that's in carot gold?
Is it worth the time and materials it takes to refine it yourself?
They have zero room to fudge on the payout. Plus I get to keep the silver and PGMs in the karat scrap by refining it myself. Other than that, the only reason I refine is because I love it. I can’t not do it.
What an awesome video, I have a lot of computer CPU’s and memory cards and old nasa electrical terminal’sI need to get refined, who do you recommend? I’d love to see you do it and watch the video, that would be cool. Thanks.
Mike, unfortunately I only work on my own material because it’s my hobby. And I don’t refine much electronic scrap because the yields are too low.
@@sreetips , that’s cool, I also metal detect 3 times a week, I’ve accumulated a lot of silver and gold rings over the last year, looks identical to what you worked with. Any way, you’re video was the most informative process I’ve seen on refining gold and silver ever. Thanks for sharing and responding.
WRT cement silver, you said, “then I rinse all the copper off it.” But subsequent steps in your silver refining process suggest that that doesn’t quite happen. After all the phrase you use for your shot is “impure silver shot” and your electrolytic chamber becomes blue as the Pacific with (copper nitrate?) You’re still rinsing rinsing rinsing this stuff off at the end of process from your pure silver crystal. I gotta say, and I say it with love because Mr Sreetips you are awesome, but this appears to be a major weakness in your workflow. Have you ever attempted to brainstorm a better way to rinse your cement silver?
Two points here: #1, as long as the copper concentration is kept below 60 grams per liter in the electrolyte, and voltage (current flow will vary) is kept at 3.5 volts, then the copper will not plate out in the cell with the pure silver crystal. #2, according to GoldSilverPro on the goldrefiningforum.com (one of the professional refiners that I learned from) a small amount of copper in the electrolyte, like what you get when traces of copper in the impure shot start to build up in the electrolyte as it dissolves, improves the crystal structure. It promotes fat crystal growth. I learned from the best. Their methods are tried and true.
I guess that when cementing silver with copper, tiny particles of metallic copper get separated from the bulk and are mixed with the cement silver. So rinsing won't help much, but electrolysis will. Sometimes Sreetips ran his pure silver crystal through the cell again, resulting no blue stain to the electrolyte. This proves that the single stage electrolysis properly takes care of the remaining copper.
Woou! Sir I am very impresses with that wouenderful information. You are a Master never saw a perfect video like this I am glad saw it for the first time I am so much enjoyed and learn all the ditel. Thank you so much.
This video just made me lots of money. After my first sale with aragold, I will be looking to donate to your channel.
Y not use the furnace to melt everything at once
@@dominiccoletta1823 how do you seperate the metals with a batch melt?
@Owen the same way you would any other time. If ur adding silver to ur gold to incourt it using a furnace to melt everything would just speed up the melting process. That way you don't have to melt the gold then melt/mix in the silver
Excellent, thank you
Have you ever tried placing a one of the rinses on the ultrasonic cleaner? Not poured into but just put the beaker on top of it? It seems like it could get into the gold or silver powder better than just a swirl.
Do you take advantage of the extra 1% (98 vs 99%) when selling 20 grams or more or is that too much volume for you to sit on?
Great one thank you. I am buying a Water tote to make a fume hood with. 275-gallon acid resistant, it has a built-in drain system to a threaded pipe. It will catch all boilovers to a drainpipe into a waste bucket? Semi tailor for a lab. The walls are that government green.
Do you process/ adjust Ag addition for white, yellow, rose, etc gold separately? thinking of the Pd/Ni in white vs Ag+Cu in yellow or just Cu in rose.
I asked before an never got an answer but how do you get your bar(s) to that refiner? Super glad you answered that today!!!!
USPS Registered Priority Mail
I would like to hear where you are sourcing the jewelry/gold scraps from and how you know whether it is 10k,14k, 18k,24k...
We buy scrap gold at local sales for very cheap because people don’t understand that gold is more valuable than paper dollars. The karat scrap is usually stamped but not alway. But you can’t always go by the marking.
Always interesting. I don't know if you read or reply to comments, but I am interested to know if you ever calculated the ROI? Not including the beakers and so forth, but the purchase of the gold, sterling and consumables like the acids. Thank you.
I’ve not done that. It’s my hobby and I don’t track expenses for each batch that I refine. I just buy the metals as cheap as I can. If I need paper to pay bills or to exchange for more metals, then I sell a little to raise cash.
@@sreetips Thank you. The videos are very informative. I appreciate the reply AND your recommendation to the Plot11 videos last week.
I really enjoy your videos. They are very educational as well as entertaining. My hobby is metal detecting and I am an over the road truck driver. Your videos prevent me from going to sleep when I really should be sleeping. LOL. Keep up the great videos.
Keep your eye on the road man. Truckers are the life’s blood of this nation. I salute you!
Where is the equal point between value of gold/silver vs cost of nitric used to inquart here? And why go this route instead of aqua regia? I’m asking as a serious learning point question because i haven’t a clue and am genuinely trying to learn, not critique or whatever.
I love love love watching your videos. I learn something every single time, even if it’s a rewatch. I will pick up on something i missed earlier. Thank you so much for your channel and the sharing you do.
I don’t know equal point because I’ve not calculated it. Inquarting with silver or copper lowers the gold content. Then the nitric can get everything out before going to aqua regia. Trying to dissolve the karat gold without inquarting creates problems with a very dirty solution and passivation.
@@sreetips I just got to the point in the video where you explained that. My bad. Should’ve been patient and known you would explain the refining points. Thank you sir. Please keep up the good work! One day I’m going to be able to buy some of your eBay offers and that stamp of yours will be more valuable than the metal, to me anyway!
Thank You Sir for the Refiner's Info...You just saved me who knows how many hours of time in trying to find a Fair-Priced Refiner! Your the Best!!!
Thank you for your recommendation of ARA Gold. I got a quote from my local coin Co on some scrape gold I had and they offered my $820 - ARA paid me $1,052 and gold spot price had gone down a bit. Great suggestion!
Did you provide them an LLC or business account?
@@WilXliFY I have an S-Corp and provided that information. Otherwise they will pay you but at a slightly reduced rate. ARA paid 98% of spot with my S-Corp.
If you just slightly crumble the gold with glass stick after every nitric acid bath .then it will be easier for nitric acid to penetrate the gold quickly and you will need only 3 nitric acid baths to purify gold to 23.99 karat.
We don’t want to crush the gold because it will form nano particles that don’t settle well. Or worse, colloidal gold. Then separation of the liquid from the silver becomes a nightmare.
Hi sreetips. I was just checking into nitric acid substitute sodium nitric and as a beginner refiner to a intermediate beginner refiner I’d like to get your opinion on it. Is it something you have ever used and continue to use or do you just use nitric 70% and what is your preference to one another.
I’ve never used it, no experience. I just buy the nitric already made
mooo ;)
Is there a time when your acid gets 'worn out' so to speak, and you reconstitute it? Was wondering how the acid+base=salt+water thing would work with multiple acids. Multiple mixed salts would be my bet, but I was onto other things after the 200 level.
The acids react with the metals and form different compounds.
Wow, incredibly informative. Well done and beautiful results.
most excellent video, Sr. Chief!
I had dealings with ARA way back.. years ago.. they were 100% above board.
Question. Do you need to be a business to send in to this company or need a tax EIN #?
I been collecting urban gold for two years now and other than watching vids on how to extract and refine it all, I simply do not know what to do with it. As you said this process is 50 percent mental. Knowledge = confidence = competence. Your vids give the most knowledge and i appreciate that. I still lack the confidence as I believe I understand 10 percent of what i need to. This leads me to believe I need to send it in as is.
Wise decision. The big refiners will only deal with a business.
I'd like to know the ingot's weigh when it is steadily suspended in water by a thinnest wire without touching the bottom. The dry weigh divided by the wet weigh is the density of the ingot. The closer to 19,3 g/cm3, the most pure is the gold.
U must not be aware of Mr Sreetips pedigree....I will assure you that when he completes the process the ingots density will be 19,3g/ cm2
At 29:17 now that’s a nice glass of tea 🔥👍🏽
I've done the same thing with other companies. The process is as smooth as sreetips showed. I shipped scrap jewelry from California to New York.
Every week sreetips gets close to catching up and then Mrs. Sreetips comes in with a bag of mixed gold and silver from the antique shops and sreetips just starts to tear up. Just a little.
Imagine sreetips dies in an accident and his heirs come and see the big bucket with the grey powder and the beakers with the colored liquids: Whats that crap, throw it in the bin, but keep the bucket and sell the beakers, that might give us a bit of money.
@@adamabele785 sreetips recently went to the doctor for a wellness check. Everything was fine but he had a copay. The receptionist asked how he'd be paying and he gave her a vial of silver crystals because the damn stuff was just piling up at home. :D
Oh no, they know what it is, believe me.
No way, people are clueless about the value of real money; gold and silver
@@sreetips you’d be surprised by how many people I’ve ran into that won’t accept gold or silver and rather have fiat currency. It pains my soul. There is actually videos on RUclips where some guy try’s to give away gold and people won’t take it. Probably some of them think there is some sort of catch but most of them just don’t want it. It’s utterly amazing, and I myself have seen it first hand.
Is there any benefit of refining before selling to refinery? Becasue in my country gold price is the same no matter karat. So it is more profitable to just melt it and sell as is, than to waste time, chemicals, energy to refine it.
There’s no need to even melt it. The karat gold can be sent in just like it is. I refine it first because I love doing it. Plus, it lets the refiner know that I know what I’m doing. Gives less wiggle room when my pay out is determined. And even though it’s not much, I get to keep the silver and other precious metals in the karat gold. Big refiners normally only pay you for the gold. They keep the other metals for themselves. People forget about this or they don’t know about it. Karat scrap contains silver and platinum group metals. This is how they can afford to pay 98% of spot for your gold. And, every refiner will end up cheating the customer, eventually. That’s part of the reason I refuse to refine other peoples material.
Why not use pure silver instead of sterling when inquarting? The only things I kow about refining is whatever I learned watching you but it seems like not having the copper ''contamination'' would make for easier refining of the silver afterwards?
Using pure silver, that’s already been through the silver cell, would be taking a step in the wrong direction.
Just curious, what’s your margin after paying for scrap and the needed chemicals? Not counting the 100s of hours of your time? I have only watched a few vids but have not seen a reference to costs and sale price…
It’s my hobby. I don’t track expenses for each batch
Great video, especially love your gold refining vids thanks
At todays price in the UK that lump you've made is worth just over 12k GBP. How much have you spent on scrap gold/silver and chemicals to produce that?
And what is the process for refining the silver... And what is the rough outlay and return for doing that?
Thank you sir 👍
Not sure, this is my hobby so I don’t track expenses for each batch. But we did manage to pay off a quarter million $ in debt over two years - with GOLD.
Thanks for the great videos! Now Subscribed!
Excellent, thank you
How did you get started in refining precious metals? How could I get started?
I wanted to refine my own metal and I developed an intense desire to succeed.
Always enjoy your videos! Thank you!
Hey @sreetips. Love your videos. I reckon that shirt of yours needs to be incinerated and the remnants processed for precious metals. Maybe a 150k subscriber special ? 😂😂
I like how you don’t waste the silver. As someone like myself that has no idea what this is about. It’s interesting that you have to add silver to get it where you need it, but then the silver is disposed of...but not wasted as you apparently cement it out (as you say)
Correct, then I melt into shot and run it through my silver cell.
That lost gold was the stuff from the beaker you said you would get later.
How often do you clean the silver jars that are used for the pour offs of the nitric with the Sterling inside? Is there much gold/mud in with them? Always wonder as there’ll be silver in that you don’t like going in your stock pot
I keep piece of undissolved silver and boil those silver jars to ensure that all the free nitric is gone. However, there is gold mud and gold foils that settle to the bottom. After a few months accumulation, I add nitric to completely dissolve all the silver in the silver jar - so that there is plenty of boiling nitric AND NO PIECES OF SILVER LEFT AT ALL. Then I filter all the gold mud and gold foils and capture them in a specially prepared filter. Once I have the solids in the filter I rinse with much hot distilled water to remove as much silver as possible. Then I add the filter to my filter storage and save it. Once I’ve accumulated enough filters, I burn them to a fine ash and then process them for the gold and other precious metals that they contain. The clear filtered solution will have excess free nitric. I add that back to the silver jar and put in more sterling silver to consume it all and keep the silver jar going.
@@sreetips and so the cycle continues...Thanks for the reply
Shouldent u filter the distillered water after putting in the sulfuric acid to get the percipetated lead out and only then continue with disolving the gold?❤❤
Sounds right
Streetips I have a question to you,is it possible for the gold ore, the pyrites to become real gold, tell me how and on what process,and I am waiting for your responds sooner or later.
I don’t have any experience with ore pyrites. All the gold I work with comes from scrap karat gold.
I re coated my wedding ring with gold thanks to you!
Do you do this for fun or are you able to source scrap cheaply and make a profit off refining? I just imagine all that nitric acid and materials getting really expensive.
It’s my hobby - I don’t refine other people’s material
Hey friend! Idk if you could explain, or direct me to one of your videos. Was wondering how you know between gold filled, and plated.
(plated I'd assume is easy as it shows easily on scratching, but filled appears THICK)
Try putting 14k test acid directly on the piece. The test acid will immediately penetrate the thin gold plating cause it to bubble, stink, and turn green. Gold filled, having a thick layer of karat gold over brass, will not react at all. I did this test in my latest gold filled video about a month ago: ruclips.net/video/IvTmptQhkIg/видео.html
@@sreetips Niceee Thank you master. Lmao you are so incredibly helpful.
The first part is all really great but are there better ways to do this with less HNO3 waste? Such as boiling the inquartated metal in a flask and condensing all the vapours into more aqua fortis rather than let go up in smoke? A two neck flask might be employed so that the liquids could be siphoned out and replaced easily. Or doing smaller batches, where there is enough water, acid, metal for all Ag to go into solution in one or two passes? Seven or eight looks labour intensive.
I thought about how the old school chemists had tops for their alembics where the vapours condensed and were collected. Something like that which could fit onto a beaker, or a modified beaker so all of the red smoke could be collected and reused. But could also be quickly and easily removed and replaced. A modern version of that might be a reaction flask that has a circular clip that holds the lid down. Its basically a round bottom beaker. It has a ground glass joint to add whatever condenser you like to it. If it were a reflux setup, all the red fume would condense and drip back in to help with the reaction. Zero waste.
Or putting the inquartated metal with dry nitre crystals and heating them in a reaction flask or large crucible with lid, dry. Then washing the silver nitrate out once cooled. Is that done? KNO3 melts at 320°C so I'd imagine it wouldn't need to be much hotter.
Wow, I’d like to see a video of that. Thank you
One question; if there are excess nitric acid when you pour it into the silver jar - why dont you just boil it for longer? Nitric Acid is expensive and difficult to procure ( at least where I live).
I add pieces of silver to consume all the excess nitric acid. A small amount of free nitric is required for the silver to react with the copper and cement out of the solution
Ya taught me something Chief, ENC 17yrs, CWO 6yrs. Now how do I get Silver Plate off the base metal?
Thank you for your service. I have a ton of silver plate but I have not tried getting the silver off yet.
Absolutely love love love this stuff, Thanks man!!
Use hot water and put it in freezer as hot then the ice cubes will be also pure if your ice cube is cloudy it means it contains impurities ice will be clear if you freeze hot water
What is the cost of the nitric acid ??? If you don't mind me asking , basically I would like to know if this is cost effective or mainly just a hobby to blow off some steam you know 🤔
Six 2.5 liter bottles .$289 delivered - for my last order.
I’ve watched hundred of videos by now and I have yet to think about you having a gold cell for crystalline gold just like the sliver cell… i know you had that gold cell to remove plated gold jewelry but a lot different then the AG cell…
I have a video on the Wohlwill electrolytic gold refining cell
@@sreetips awesome thanks!!! have a good day!