Hey everyone. I decided not to make any more videos on the legion 9i. It's too late in the year for this to come out and at this price. In almost every scenario I would say go with the legion 7 instead unless you're an ultra competitive esports gamer and will benefit from the higher frames with the overclicked 6400 mhz ram at lower resolutions. If the screen is important to you, that might be a consideration. But it's not $1000+ better. And there's still some benefits to not going with a mini led screen for some people. Let me know your feedback in the comments.
@@consumertechwarehousehow did the 9i vs the duo 16 you used to have? I had the duo 16 and it looked great for 500 zones but it did have dsc. Too bad you did not do a full review on the 9i. It came out late in the year but there is lots of deals you can get on it. In Canada it’s much cheaper than the blade 16.
I'm actually thinking about deleting this post. Lol. It can be had for $3800 maxed out which is comparable to others. The screen is way better than the implementation on ROG mini led panels this year. They all use the same panel.
@@consumertechwarehouse I was able to get them down to 4500 Canadian, that works out to like 3300 usd. 4090 6400 ram and a single 2tb ssd. Would love to see more content on it if you still have it.
Love this machine. Am a Mac user and no fan of Windows but on occassion have owned Legions for the excellent keyboard layout and feel, resr ports and lovely industrial design. This i9 is even better, and that rgb lighting is awesome.
Yeah if you call them they can give you some sick deals, I just got a quote for i9 with Rtx4900 32gb ddr5 6400 2TB SSD For $3600 about to pull the trigger on that
Great video man, thanks for the first look. New mic sounds great, also! However, I'd recommend adding a compressor to the microphone in post, because you're getting some clipping every once in awhile.
Ok bro this is one of the best reviewers after Jarrod and Nuclear notebook! You earnt my sub. Most reviewers treat your early review as their full review and blabber about how good and top the specs are lmao In the timespy graph, u made a mistake. legion pro 7 has a 13900HX, not 13980HX
I would love to see a video on the gen 9 version. I know it's only a marginal upgrade to the gen 8 but still. Mine is otw and I got it to compare to my awesome OLED Blade 16. Which ever one I prefer more I will keep and sell the other one.
you become my favorite laptops reviewer on YT! keep up the great work 🙌 please compare it to Razer Blade 16 after the full review, the display, performance, size/weight, battery life, performance, thermal, etc 🙏
Whoa thanks man. There's some legends out there so I really appreciate that. I don't have the razer anymore. I'll try to get one back. But except for the small trackpad, and razer having a more premium build, I think the legion is better
@@consumertechwarehouse you have natural talent as a great reviewer, I can see it. give it a time, you'll become one of those legends. ah, that's too bad, hopefully you can get it back 🤞 nonetheless, keep doing what you're doing!
The Lenovo 7i and the Lenovo 9i both have 2 speakers. I will take the 9i any day over the 7i. In fact, Lenovo is eager to sell the 9i. While ordering I got several generous deductions from Capital One and MS, along with my nursing license. Lenovo reviewed my saved configuration and granted me additional credit towards the purchase price, so I paid less than 3200 for the fully loaded Legion 9i. I was looking at the MSI Titan 18 HX but considering use, portability, and the visual appeal the Legion won. Very happy with my purchase.
Yeah. When I made this video last year there were no discounts on the legion 9. Now there's tons. I managed to get one for a similar price too. Great value.
@@consumertechwarehouse sometimes best to wait until all the fanfare is done. Economy is not strong, companies are eager to sell and willing to bargain on price. I am grateful for such discounts 😀
@robertarmstrongjr6081 I agree. Economy definitely isn’t strong despite what the government and Wall Street is saying. People don’t have the purchasing power they used to. I’m noticing that on RUclips tech channels too. Views are overall down across all channels because most people don’t have the expendable income to treat themselves to tech. But congrats on your savings. Definitely a good choice
Best laptopo on the market for my $$$...Wait..I forgot a $. There. My $$$$. Pricy, but it's such a beast, and looks amazing as well. Love every Legion I've ever had.
The duo sounds really loud like a vacuum and it throttles. The blade can get loud in that max fan mode. This actually stays relatively quiet. Even next to the massive gt77.
It’s not perfect. But I’ve been using it as my only laptop since I got it, and it’s not so bad. The good thing is it’s fast and responsive. So I can do more with less movements. MSI and Lenovo always were good at that.
I may be wrong but it looks like your palms may reset on the edge when gaming due to how far down the keyboard is on this. The Ailenware m15 & x14 also had the keyboard in the same spot and it felt extremely uncomfortable after 15min. Could you comment your feelings on that in the full review?
So far it does, but the laptop is so thin, my palm sits closer to the desk. I'll need to spend more time to see if it bugs me though. But I definitely noticed my palms don't sit flush on the chasis.
oh so it comes with 2 chargers? it makes sense to have a 330 watt charger then, cuz 140 watts seemed way too low for those specs@@consumertechwarehouse
I was just about to pull the trigger on the. 9i 4090 the other day. Lenovo was sold out so I was going to build one with the fastest ram and a 2 tb single ssd. Price was 5475 CAD with taxes. Later that day I came across a new in box 7i 4090 on marketplace. Long story short I got the 7i for 3100 cad all in. It’s working perfectly and I registered it with Lenovo with 13 months of warranty remaining. I love the 7I but I still with it had a mini led. The 7i was just too good of a deal to pass up. Just wondering what you think of the 7i vs the 9i since u had both. Thanks!
I pinned a comment. There’s no way that the legion 9 is worth the price difference at $1k. Definitely not worth it at $5475 CAD vs. $3100. The screen is better but not there much better. For that price difference you can just buy a monitor or a 4k oled tv. lol. Also unless you get the faster ram and play at lower resolutions, the ram speed increase won’t matter. If the legion 9i came out at the beginning of the year I would say yeah! It’s a great laptop though but so is the legion 7
This is an interesting release from Lenovo. Sort of surprised really since it's getting sort of late in the release cycle. I really don't like the outer laptop shell at all too be honest. It looks too much like Uba Tuba Granite countertops Imo. You still need check out the AW X16!
Granite countertops!!! That's what this reminds me of. Man I couldn't put my finger on it. Spot on. But that's why I reserved my opinion for a later video. Not sure how I feel about the material. I will say it looks better in real life than video though
hahah yup. Just thought I was looking at my countertops when I first saw this laptop lol. Laptop appearance is super subjective though. Pretty impressive that this is the best laptop display you've used though. Anything that beats out the Razer Mini Led display has to be amazing. I have the PG27AWDM Asus monitor and still say the Razer Mini-LED is a better display.
@furnitureandbedding776 honestly. I may have to revisit the razer. I like this better because of the accuracy and the response time is better. But it's not by a wide margin. The razer screen is still just as amazing. I'd probably be splitting hairs if I were comparing them side by side.
@@consumertechwarehouse I don't really watch movies on my computer just gaming/office work, so I really appreciate the colorful and bright presentation of the razer and just in general prefer that style for gaming. I play a lot of RTS games, and the color pop is a lot of fun in. Just a shame I had a lot of other issues with that laptop. I'm on my 4th Mercury Blade. If this one has issues I'm throwing in the towel and will revisit next gen.
Hi, amazing review, thanks! Two questions, I am really interested in gaming while usb C connected.. Do you see battery charging and dischargin while gaming (it could hurt battery life so maybe they prevent it somehow) and is it the same as the legion 7i or for some reason they are different (performance wise)?
It sure the frequency. But the camera is able to pick it up easily. I have to change my shutter speed to not show the flickering compared to all other tech products I film.
Hi one of my very few viewers that watches my phone content. Lol. I ordered for me to use as my phone. Not necessarily to make a video. But since you asked, I'll do one.
You indeed are a wonderful reviewer. Have a 10th Gen legion 7i which I value and wish to upgrade to this. You did indeed enlightened me, very impressive so far, cannot wait to hear your final review of this laptop. How loud are the tripple fan setup by the way, esp in a thin chassis?
So super early I know, but I’ve been looking at either this with the 4090 and 64gb of ram, and the blade 16 with the 4090. I take my computer with me to work so that’s why I’m sticking with the more portable size, if these two, which do you think you would be leaning towards for gaming and every day computer use. I don’t do any time of editing or content creating. More looking to get the best I can that will take me as far into the future as possible. Thanks! And great reviews.
This is a tough one to answer. I've been getting a lot of questions on this too. I think I'll need to get in a blade 16 and do a comparison. Honestly you'll be happy with both. But as the days go by, the small trackpad is getting a bit annoying. The blade is better on many aspects. But the thermals are at the limit and the chasis gets way too hot to rest on your lap while doing anything intensive like gaming. But they'll both see e you well whichever you choose. I don't have a definitive answer yet though
Debating on this same exact question. Razer Blade 16 w/ 4090 or the Lenovo Legion 9i w/ the 4090 and the 6400mhz ram speed configuration. If you ever end up doing a comparison between both of them, I’d be forever in your debt, lol. I’ve been dying to make a decision but man is it a hard one. I also have had ptm-7950 ready to re paste the cpu and gpu on the razer AND upsiren u6 thermal putty to re do the vapor chamber if I end up pulling the trigger on the razer but the legion 9i seems like it could honestly be the better option in which case I wouldn’t even need all that. I also ordered a iets gt600 cooling pad. On what aspects do you think the blade is better though? Seems as though I can’t find a single one unless we’re talking about the aluminum chassis / overall build quality tbh.
How hard is it to adjust to the smaller and thinner touchpad with the keyboard moved so far forward? Apart from the speakers being not as good, it looks like an otherwise no compromise thinner gaming laptop that is comparable to the larger laptops.;
I wrote like 3 pages worth of stuff on Microsoft word last night and I didn’t even think about it. It’s more comfortable on a laptop with a regular keyboard placement but I was fine with it. I was using it on my lap too. It may bother some people though who maybe write for a living. But for the 2 hours I used it, it was fine to me
The OLED screen on that MSI is still special. But the legion is brighter, has richer colors and HDR looks amazing. But nothing can touch OLED for the contrast and buttery response time. I would be more than happy with either.
@@consumertechwarehouse The response time is nutty for sure. I'll have to try out this panel when I get the chance 😎. Not sure if you caught the second part, but are those Focal Elegia headphones?
Great channel and review. I am happy you took so much time with the display. Not even Lenovo at their website goes that deep and we need that facts. I bought an open box 7i pro and I love it but the screen for me is lacking. Perhaps if I learn out to tweak it. I am a video editor only. A color grader. Do you think this screen substantially better for video editing. I can return the open box. I got a great deal on it and love 7i but still. Can you advise me please. You seem to know you stuff. I'm going crazy trying to figure this stuff out. I'm spent weeks shopping and watching and struggling. I bought a dell percisson and it died in a day so I returned it. A nightmare.
If you grade sRGB footage you will be fine. But if you’re grading 10 bit 422 footage there’s going to be details missing from the legion 7 screen. The legion 9 would be a lot better. But if you’re noticing that the screen is lacking, you can’t tweak it. The only thing though, the legion 9 is so much more expensive that it’s hard to recommend unless you really want the better screen.
@@consumertechwarehouse I understand. Yes I'm 90 percent grading and working with 10 bit 411 Intra footage. I was watching some videos about Adobe an Davinchi and in the software itself there are color tweaks one can do contingent on the power of the computer. I paid 1850 tax and shipping free, for the open box 7i at BH photo. I'd be looking with tax at around 3400 for the 9i with the 480 gpu. WOW. 1500 plus for a better screen. I think I'll just get one of the pro art 16" touch screen portables. They are only 800 dollars. Do you have any experience with the PRO art 16 pro. that is a beauty but in only comes with either the 4070 or the 3000 ada and they are only 8 gigs. I'm afraid they won't be powerful enought. What do you think?
Nice video! And it looks like I am interested in pretty much same devices that you are reviewing (looking on switching from 14PM to Fold 5 now lol) I have a question, have you had the latest M16? I am thinking about getting M16 4090 or Legion 9i 4090, the first one is $500-600 cheaper tho 🤔
I did a review of last year’s m16 and it’s great. But if you can spend the extra, the legion 9 is better overall. Minus the small trackpad and possibly the build
I was very interested in the Acer. I might check that out in the future. But either laptop would be great as a desktop replacement. If you care less about size and mini led, the blade's screen size is more immersive. Speakers are way better too. Performance should be similar though. It just depends on what aspects of a laptop you value more.
I was very interested in the Acer. I might check that out in the future. But either laptop would be great as a desktop replacement. If you care less about size and mini led, the blade's screen size is more immersive. Speakers are way better too. Performance should be similar though. It just depends on what aspects of a laptop you value more.
How is the fan noise in medium tasks and high power tasks, do you think this design is any quieter than other gaming laptops or basically the same (or worse?), thanks!
GPU intensive games seem a bit quieter. But it's not doing anything new or magical. Well. What is amazing is that it's able to perform as well as some of the bigger guys but being so thin and light
@@consumertechwarehouse Good to know thanks! Do you know if it has room for double sided nvme drives or just single sided like many of their slim models?
Informative review . These look very cool. Ive had asus gaming laptops forever but bought a Legion 7i this week. Price was 3600 🇨🇦 with 34 ram , 2tb drives , 4080 card. Approx delivery 3.5 weeks from Lenovo. Seeing all the coil whine complaints plus not very happy with last asus so will try a new brand . Keep up the honest reviews
You provide some good content and insights for a going tech channel. However, your benchmark graphics are impossible to read and you need more infographics.
I haven't done a review yet. I filmed one but never uploaded it. I'm having issues like frame drops etc like you pointed out. and CPU throttling that tanks the performance and I just can't get used to the trackpad and uncomfortable layout. I'm going to work on the duo next then sell it. I don't like making negative reviews. I mean it's not going to be negative, but it won't be overwhelmingly positive like a lot of my other videos.
Yeah. I agree. I didn't want to give my opinions on the design yet. Want to give it some time. The speakers aren't bad though. But the legion 7 is really good
In ur opinion which laptop is the best pick for civil & structrual engineering I mean for 3d modeling and heavy analyses work Pls give me your advice and your at least 3 pick?!
This legion 9 should be great for it. I don't have experience with those programs, so I can't say for sure. But those are very GPU and CPU intensive. If it's anything like this, the legion series in general are amazing for it and so is the MSI gt77. The scar is as well! Those would be the first that comes to mind.
Hi ConTech, Please can you compare it with the Razer Blade16 4090 you reviewed sometime back. Would really appreciate that. I also look forward to the full review of this Lenovo. Really promising. Great work.
I ended getting one for about 3200 before tax after discounts and cash back bonuses(32gb 4090 version). I’m comfortable paying a premium with that price. Originally I had the 4080 7i pro with a massive discount from the labor day promotions but they changed my eta from 9/20 to 10/24 and I needed this for work. I was also having fomo about not coughing the extra for the 4090 and the screen being IPS when I’m currently using qdoled on my desktop. Hoping the water pump will also increase longevity for the unit. Unfortunate that it doesn’t kick in until after 84c but I can see the purpose to prevent premature failure. Assuming it would only get that hot as well once it gets dusty.
Im confused between Thinkbook 16P gen 4 and Legion 7 , same specs. i7+32gb ram+rtx4060 8gb I am not a gamer, but focus more on rendering softwares. Can u suggest which one to buy. Thanks.
Never used the 16p but looked it up and seems like it's more in competition with the legion slim 7. I would assume you'll get better performance out of the legion 7 due to the better thermals. But that's just in theory. Hopefully someone who sees this who has both can comment further to help you out.
Depends on the game. Most support it in some way. Either fully, or they stretch the top and bottom, or you get black bars. If you care about that stuff, stick with 16:9. I do. When possible I prefer to play the game as intended. Unfortunately most laptops are ditching 16:9
I bought a top specc’d 9i - sadly, total OBF. Won’t boot, no response, only RGB turns on. After waiting 6 weeks for the machine to arrive, I have to wait all over again for replacement unit 😔
@@consumertechwarehouse Bluetooth doesn't work. Overheating issues. 4090 is not working right. Ran it through 3d mark and got pretty low score compared to others. I fixed the FPS somewhat but still have studdering. Internet drops if I'm playing fortnite but don't have issues with ps5 or any of my other devices. Windows drivers weren't working right along with Nvidia drivers. There's been some recent updates that somewhat fixed the problem. Watching movies has delay issues and there's flickering on the screen. Customer service said computer is defective and to return so I'm going to get the 9.
@MiguelRodriguez-my3dg It was defective and over heating. I think the 9i is way better choice. The 7 was fine but didn't feel or work like a premium gaming laptop for the price.
Hey everyone. I decided not to make any more videos on the legion 9i. It's too late in the year for this to come out and at this price. In almost every scenario I would say go with the legion 7 instead unless you're an ultra competitive esports gamer and will benefit from the higher frames with the overclicked 6400 mhz ram at lower resolutions. If the screen is important to you, that might be a consideration. But it's not $1000+ better. And there's still some benefits to not going with a mini led screen for some people. Let me know your feedback in the comments.
The flickering, the blooming, dirty screen effect, and sometimes inaccurate colors. In my opinion the benefits outweigh though.
@@consumertechwarehousehow did the 9i vs the duo 16 you used to have? I had the duo 16 and it looked great for 500 zones but it did have dsc. Too bad you did not do a full review on the 9i. It came out late in the year but there is lots of deals you can get on it. In Canada it’s much cheaper than the blade 16.
I'm actually thinking about deleting this post. Lol. It can be had for $3800 maxed out which is comparable to others. The screen is way better than the implementation on ROG mini led panels this year. They all use the same panel.
@@consumertechwarehouse I was able to get them down to 4500 Canadian, that works out to like 3300 usd. 4090 6400 ram and a single 2tb ssd. Would love to see more content on it if you still have it.
how is the keyboard flex on this? is this laptop 100% metal besides the top lid?
Love this machine. Am a Mac user and no fan of Windows but on occassion have owned Legions for the excellent keyboard layout and feel, resr ports and lovely industrial design. This i9 is even better, and that rgb lighting is awesome.
Sick video I just got an insane deal from them.
Legion Pro 7i with RTX 4090
32 GB DDR5 and 2 tb of ssd
All for $2600 aftertax
Where did you get it from?
Yeah. There is no need to consider any other laptop this year. You're set!
I got a Pro Legion 7i too but no mini led has me having regrets
Yeah if you call them they can give you some sick deals, I just got a quote for i9 with
Rtx4900
32gb ddr5 6400
2TB SSD
For $3600
about to pull the trigger on that
Great video man, thanks for the first look.
New mic sounds great, also! However, I'd recommend adding a compressor to the microphone in post, because you're getting some clipping every once in awhile.
Yeah I almost recorded those parts but didn't want to delay the video anymore. Appreciate the feedback though. Happy people are noticing these details
you need a limiter not a compressor
AM ready for the full 30min Plus review covering how beneficial the water loop is.
Same
Come on bro it is another gimmick...like the AI CHIP 😂
Ok bro this is one of the best reviewers after Jarrod and Nuclear notebook! You earnt my sub.
Most reviewers treat your early review as their full review and blabber about how good and top the specs are lmao
In the timespy graph, u made a mistake. legion pro 7 has a 13900HX, not 13980HX
I would love to see a video on the gen 9 version. I know it's only a marginal upgrade to the gen 8 but still. Mine is otw and I got it to compare to my awesome OLED Blade 16. Which ever one I prefer more I will keep and sell the other one.
Which one you prefer?
you become my favorite laptops reviewer on YT! keep up the great work 🙌
please compare it to Razer Blade 16 after the full review, the display, performance, size/weight, battery life, performance, thermal, etc 🙏
Whoa thanks man. There's some legends out there so I really appreciate that. I don't have the razer anymore. I'll try to get one back. But except for the small trackpad, and razer having a more premium build, I think the legion is better
@@consumertechwarehouse you have natural talent as a great reviewer, I can see it. give it a time, you'll become one of those legends.
ah, that's too bad, hopefully you can get it back 🤞
nonetheless, keep doing what you're doing!
If the temperatures are still even close to the 80s and 90s the high cost is a complete waste outside of the display.
I need more time to really do testing. But the temps are amazing for something this thin if that matters to you
From what I've seen the temps stay in the mid to high 70s when playing CPU and GPU intensive games.
@@NGT4LIFE78 max
Stop crying..just enjoy..
Display is so expensive tho, kinda accepptable since Asus Vivobooks with 3.2k OLEDs costs like 2800$ because of the amazing screen.
The Lenovo 7i and the Lenovo 9i both have 2 speakers. I will take the 9i any day over the 7i. In fact, Lenovo is eager to sell the 9i. While ordering I got several generous deductions from Capital One and MS, along with my nursing license. Lenovo reviewed my saved configuration and granted me additional credit towards the purchase price, so I paid less than 3200 for the fully loaded Legion 9i. I was looking at the MSI Titan 18 HX but considering use, portability, and the visual appeal the Legion won. Very happy with my purchase.
Yeah. When I made this video last year there were no discounts on the legion 9. Now there's tons. I managed to get one for a similar price too. Great value.
@@consumertechwarehouse sometimes best to wait until all the fanfare is done. Economy is not strong, companies are eager to sell and willing to bargain on price. I am grateful for such discounts 😀
@robertarmstrongjr6081 I agree. Economy definitely isn’t strong despite what the government and Wall Street is saying. People don’t have the purchasing power they used to. I’m noticing that on RUclips tech channels too. Views are overall down across all channels because most people don’t have the expendable income to treat themselves to tech. But congrats on your savings. Definitely a good choice
Agree. Almost forgot, enjoyed your reviews, nice to hear someone speak like a close friend and not aggressively push their agenda. Take care!
I've had mine a couple of days now and I love it.
Loving mine too
10 months down the line, do you still love it?
Best laptopo on the market for my $$$...Wait..I forgot a $. There. My $$$$. Pricy, but it's such a beast, and looks amazing as well. Love every Legion I've ever had.
Are you still loving this laptop? I’m thinking of ordering one. Got it in the cart ready to go. How is the fan noise vs the blade 16 or duo 16?
The duo sounds really loud like a vacuum and it throttles. The blade can get loud in that max fan mode. This actually stays relatively quiet. Even next to the massive gt77.
Thank you very much for your review, hope to see a video about the performance and hardware soon.
the mic is great expect u need a filter for the P sounds. It hits like a smack
dunno it looks like with that narrow trackpad your wrists are going to be ramming into the edge of the device which sounds pretty uncomfortable TBH
It’s not perfect. But I’ve been using it as my only laptop since I got it, and it’s not so bad. The good thing is it’s fast and responsive. So I can do more with less movements. MSI and Lenovo always were good at that.
I may be wrong but it looks like your palms may reset on the edge when gaming due to how far down the keyboard is on this. The Ailenware m15 & x14 also had the keyboard in the same spot and it felt extremely uncomfortable after 15min. Could you comment your feelings on that in the full review?
So far it does, but the laptop is so thin, my palm sits closer to the desk. I'll need to spend more time to see if it bugs me though. But I definitely noticed my palms don't sit flush on the chasis.
good job! what a smooth video!
Thanks. Appreciate it
140 watts for a charger seems really low, does it have a problem with the charging? a battery drain issue?
No. It didn't. It just used less power overall than when using the 330 watt charger.
oh so it comes with 2 chargers? it makes sense to have a 330 watt charger then, cuz 140 watts seemed way too low for those specs@@consumertechwarehouse
I was just about to pull the trigger on the. 9i 4090 the other day. Lenovo was sold out so I was going to build one with the fastest ram and a 2 tb single ssd. Price was 5475 CAD with taxes. Later that day I came across a new in box 7i 4090 on marketplace. Long story short I got the 7i for 3100 cad all in. It’s working perfectly and I registered it with Lenovo with 13 months of warranty remaining. I love the 7I but I still with it had a mini led. The 7i was just too good of a deal to pass up. Just wondering what you think of the 7i vs the 9i since u had both. Thanks!
I pinned a comment. There’s no way that the legion 9 is worth the price difference at $1k. Definitely not worth it at $5475 CAD vs. $3100. The screen is better but not there much better. For that price difference you can just buy a monitor or a 4k oled tv. lol. Also unless you get the faster ram and play at lower resolutions, the ram speed increase won’t matter. If the legion 9i came out at the beginning of the year I would say yeah! It’s a great laptop though but so is the legion 7
This is an interesting release from Lenovo. Sort of surprised really since it's getting sort of late in the release cycle. I really don't like the outer laptop shell at all too be honest. It looks too much like Uba Tuba Granite countertops Imo. You still need check out the AW X16!
Granite countertops!!! That's what this reminds me of. Man I couldn't put my finger on it. Spot on. But that's why I reserved my opinion for a later video. Not sure how I feel about the material. I will say it looks better in real life than video though
hahah yup. Just thought I was looking at my countertops when I first saw this laptop lol.
Laptop appearance is super subjective though. Pretty impressive that this is the best laptop display you've used though. Anything that beats out the Razer Mini Led display has to be amazing. I have the PG27AWDM Asus monitor and still say the Razer Mini-LED is a better display.
@furnitureandbedding776 honestly. I may have to revisit the razer. I like this better because of the accuracy and the response time is better. But it's not by a wide margin. The razer screen is still just as amazing. I'd probably be splitting hairs if I were comparing them side by side.
@@consumertechwarehouse I don't really watch movies on my computer just gaming/office work, so I really appreciate the colorful and bright presentation of the razer and just in general prefer that style for gaming. I play a lot of RTS games, and the color pop is a lot of fun in. Just a shame I had a lot of other issues with that laptop. I'm on my 4th Mercury Blade. If this one has issues I'm throwing in the towel and will revisit next gen.
Hi, amazing review, thanks! Two questions, I am really interested in gaming while usb C connected.. Do you see battery charging and dischargin while gaming (it could hurt battery life so maybe they prevent it somehow) and is it the same as the legion 7i or for some reason they are different (performance wise)?
Not on the 330 watt brick. I'll have to do more testing at 140 watts and report back
How does the screen compare to the Asus Strix Scar 16 with the nebula mini LED display?
Great review as usual
Questions about the flickering - what freq do you suppose it is flickering at?
It sure the frequency. But the camera is able to pick it up easily. I have to change my shutter speed to not show the flickering compared to all other tech products I film.
Price went down and I can’t wait to get mine.
Yeah! It went down a lot. Easier to recommend now!
Did you pre-order iPhone 15 pro max natural titanium, waiting for the review 😊
Hi one of my very few viewers that watches my phone content. Lol. I ordered for me to use as my phone. Not necessarily to make a video. But since you asked, I'll do one.
Thanks for the quick review, can you also do a comparison compared to razer 16? Tia
best reviewer on yt
Man. Appreciate that. Still lots I want to get better at. But that means a lot!!
You indeed are a wonderful reviewer. Have a 10th Gen legion 7i which I value and wish to upgrade to this. You did indeed enlightened me, very impressive so far, cannot wait to hear your final review of this laptop. How loud are the tripple fan setup by the way, esp in a thin chassis?
Thanks. Thermals are in line with the other flagships but it's impressive because of how thin it is
Fans don't get too loud either. Well in line with gaming laptops that are thicker.
So super early I know, but I’ve been looking at either this with the 4090 and 64gb of ram, and the blade 16 with the 4090. I take my computer with me to work so that’s why I’m sticking with the more portable size, if these two, which do you think you would be leaning towards for gaming and every day computer use. I don’t do any time of editing or content creating. More looking to get the best I can that will take me as far into the future as possible. Thanks! And great reviews.
This is a tough one to answer. I've been getting a lot of questions on this too. I think I'll need to get in a blade 16 and do a comparison. Honestly you'll be happy with both. But as the days go by, the small trackpad is getting a bit annoying. The blade is better on many aspects. But the thermals are at the limit and the chasis gets way too hot to rest on your lap while doing anything intensive like gaming. But they'll both see e you well whichever you choose.
I don't have a definitive answer yet though
Debating on this same exact question. Razer Blade 16 w/ 4090 or the Lenovo Legion 9i w/ the 4090 and the 6400mhz ram speed configuration. If you ever end up doing a comparison between both of them, I’d be forever in your debt, lol. I’ve been dying to make a decision but man is it a hard one. I also have had ptm-7950 ready to re paste the cpu and gpu on the razer AND upsiren u6 thermal putty to re do the vapor chamber if I end up pulling the trigger on the razer but the legion 9i seems like it could honestly be the better option in which case I wouldn’t even need all that. I also ordered a iets gt600 cooling pad. On what aspects do you think the blade is better though? Seems as though I can’t find a single one unless we’re talking about the aluminum chassis / overall build quality tbh.
@@tomwebb7678did you take decision? I'm on the same question right now, but on the updated 2024y models
How did I know you would get this thing!!! Sweet!
Lol ordered it the moment I saw it was available
I wish they made this as 17" display size
How hard is it to adjust to the smaller and thinner touchpad with the keyboard moved so far forward?
Apart from the speakers being not as good, it looks like an otherwise no compromise thinner gaming laptop that is comparable to the larger laptops.;
I wrote like 3 pages worth of stuff on Microsoft word last night and I didn’t even think about it. It’s more comfortable on a laptop with a regular keyboard placement but I was fine with it. I was using it on my lap too. It may bother some people though who maybe write for a living. But for the 2 hours I used it, it was fine to me
Cancelled my order because i couldnt bring myself to spend that much. Excited to see you get your hands on this! Thanks for the review
I’ve managed to get £400 from talking to a levono rep… so £3,265 do you guys think its worth it or shall i wait to see if the price drops further? !
8:45 I'm surprised to hear you say this. Even compared with the GE67HX? Also, are those the Focal Elegia?
The OLED screen on that MSI is still special. But the legion is brighter, has richer colors and HDR looks amazing. But nothing can touch OLED for the contrast and buttery response time. I would be more than happy with either.
@@consumertechwarehouse The response time is nutty for sure. I'll have to try out this panel when I get the chance 😎. Not sure if you caught the second part, but are those Focal Elegia headphones?
Oh they are!
@@consumertechwarehouse Have you gone down the audiophile rabbit hole yet? lol
Is there so much difference in sharpness between this and the 4k miniled of the gt77?
Not really to my eyes. 3000x2000 vs 3840x2160 isn’t too noticeable to me. They’re both really sharp looking screens.
Great channel and review. I am happy you took so much time with the display. Not even Lenovo at their website goes that deep and we need that facts. I bought an open box 7i pro and I love it but the screen for me is lacking. Perhaps if I learn out to tweak it. I am a video editor only. A color grader. Do you think this screen substantially better for video editing. I can return the open box. I got a great deal on it and love 7i but still. Can you advise me please. You seem to know you stuff. I'm going crazy trying to figure this stuff out. I'm spent weeks shopping and watching and struggling. I bought a dell percisson and it died in a day so I returned it. A nightmare.
If you grade sRGB footage you will be fine. But if you’re grading 10 bit 422 footage there’s going to be details missing from the legion 7 screen. The legion 9 would be a lot better. But if you’re noticing that the screen is lacking, you can’t tweak it. The only thing though, the legion 9 is so much more expensive that it’s hard to recommend unless you really want the better screen.
@@consumertechwarehouse I understand. Yes I'm 90 percent grading and working with 10 bit 411 Intra footage. I was watching some videos about Adobe an Davinchi and in the software itself there are color tweaks one can do contingent on the power of the computer. I paid 1850 tax and shipping free, for the open box 7i at BH photo. I'd be looking with tax at around 3400 for the 9i with the 480 gpu. WOW. 1500 plus for a better screen. I think I'll just get one of the pro art 16" touch screen portables. They are only 800 dollars. Do you have any experience with the PRO art 16 pro. that is a beauty but in only comes with either the 4070 or the 3000 ada and they are only 8 gigs. I'm afraid they won't be powerful enought. What do you think?
You don't get such behemoths to play on battery 😅 with dlss
Battery I agree. But I use DLSS. You get way more frames and still looks sharp. I don’t think I like frame gen DLSS 3.0 though
Nice video! And it looks like I am interested in pretty much same devices that you are reviewing (looking on switching from 14PM to Fold 5 now lol)
I have a question, have you had the latest M16? I am thinking about getting M16 4090 or Legion 9i 4090, the first one is $500-600 cheaper tho 🤔
I did a review of last year’s m16 and it’s great. But if you can spend the extra, the legion 9 is better overall. Minus the small trackpad and possibly the build
Is the display better than the mac
For gamers yeah. 165hz fast screen. But overall, I'll need to compare them both. I plan on doing that soon
Maybe you cant answer yet but this or blade 18 for gaming dekstop replacement? And if possible try to get the acer predator trition 17x
I was very interested in the Acer. I might check that out in the future. But either laptop would be great as a desktop replacement. If you care less about size and mini led, the blade's screen size is more immersive. Speakers are way better too. Performance should be similar though. It just depends on what aspects of a laptop you value more.
I was very interested in the Acer. I might check that out in the future. But either laptop would be great as a desktop replacement. If you care less about size and mini led, the blade's screen size is more immersive. Speakers are way better too. Performance should be similar though. It just depends on what aspects of a laptop you value more.
How is the fan noise in medium tasks and high power tasks, do you think this design is any quieter than other gaming laptops or basically the same (or worse?), thanks!
GPU intensive games seem a bit quieter. But it's not doing anything new or magical. Well. What is amazing is that it's able to perform as well as some of the bigger guys but being so thin and light
@@consumertechwarehouse Good to know thanks! Do you know if it has room for double sided nvme drives or just single sided like many of their slim models?
Awesome. My current laptop is legion 7i
add a clitoral 🔴 rubber button by the ( v ) key?
Informative review . These look very cool. Ive had asus gaming laptops forever but bought a Legion 7i this week. Price was 3600 🇨🇦 with 34 ram , 2tb drives , 4080 card. Approx delivery 3.5 weeks from Lenovo.
Seeing all the coil whine complaints plus not very happy with last asus so will try a new brand .
Keep up the honest reviews
Coil whine went away on all my Asus laptops. Needed a break in period I guess. But I think you'll really love the legion
@@consumertechwarehouse Good to know about the whine. Scar 16 with mini led and the 7i were what i had narrowed down to.
Thx for the info
Now price is 2999 CA
On website Lenovo says 100% AdobeRGB...🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
This laptop is amazing and is incredibly powerful, it did take about 2 months for me to get it though. Since they sent me a bricked laptop.
You provide some good content and insights for a going tech channel. However, your benchmark graphics are impossible to read and you need more infographics.
i wait for times when playing on laptop doesnt look like hoovering the room
Did I miss the Zephyrus duo 16 review? Lawls I wanna see how you dealt with the weird ass frame drops
I haven't done a review yet. I filmed one but never uploaded it. I'm having issues like frame drops etc like you pointed out. and CPU throttling that tanks the performance and I just can't get used to the trackpad and uncomfortable layout. I'm going to work on the duo next then sell it. I don't like making negative reviews. I mean it's not going to be negative, but it won't be overwhelmingly positive like a lot of my other videos.
Can anyone advise or recommend case or laptop bag that can fit this stupidly big monster of a laptop?
When is the full review ?
How are the temperatures in gpu and cpu while gaming? Considering water cooling, does it surpass 80 Celsius?
Looks interesting but weird. 2022 Legion 7 Gen 7 design still looked better. Kind of disappointing to hear the speakers are worse too.
Yeah. I agree. I didn't want to give my opinions on the design yet. Want to give it some time. The speakers aren't bad though. But the legion 7 is really good
I have a question about the upgradability, do both ssd slots allow double sided ssds? If I get one I want to put two 4tb sticks in them
In ur opinion which laptop is the best pick for civil & structrual engineering
I mean for 3d modeling and heavy analyses work
Pls give me your advice and your at least 3 pick?!
This legion 9 should be great for it. I don't have experience with those programs, so I can't say for sure. But those are very GPU and CPU intensive. If it's anything like this, the legion series in general are amazing for it and so is the MSI gt77. The scar is as well! Those would be the first that comes to mind.
@@consumertechwarehouse tnx for ur advice❤🌹
Hi ConTech,
Please can you compare it with the Razer Blade16 4090 you reviewed sometime back.
Would really appreciate that. I also look forward to the full review of this Lenovo. Really promising.
Great work.
I'll try to get that back in.
For now is so expensive. Its track pad is so small !!!.Laptop screen has a one side hinge!!! There are just two usb A connectors!!!
I ended getting one for about 3200 before tax after discounts and cash back bonuses(32gb 4090 version). I’m comfortable paying a premium with that price.
Originally I had the 4080 7i pro with a massive discount from the labor day promotions but they changed my eta from 9/20 to 10/24 and I needed this for work. I was also having fomo about not coughing the extra for the 4090 and the screen being IPS when I’m currently using qdoled on my desktop.
Hoping the water pump will also increase longevity for the unit. Unfortunate that it doesn’t kick in until after 84c but I can see the purpose to prevent premature failure. Assuming it would only get that hot as well once it gets dusty.
Wow. That's a good deal..
please share the sauce. how can one buy it for 3200?
How are you liking it after a month?
Im confused between Thinkbook 16P gen 4 and Legion 7 , same specs. i7+32gb ram+rtx4060 8gb
I am not a gamer, but focus more on rendering softwares. Can u suggest which one to buy. Thanks.
Never used the 16p but looked it up and seems like it's more in competition with the legion slim 7. I would assume you'll get better performance out of the legion 7 due to the better thermals. But that's just in theory. Hopefully someone who sees this who has both can comment further to help you out.
16:10 is a problem wih gaming? are there black bars?
Depends on the game. Most support it in some way. Either fully, or they stretch the top and bottom, or you get black bars. If you care about that stuff, stick with 16:9. I do. When possible I prefer to play the game as intended. Unfortunately most laptops are ditching 16:9
Battery?
The frontal camera is made of plastic or glass?
It feels like metal.
Hey! Did you go for the 32GB 6400hz or the 64GB 5600hz?
64gb. If I wasn't making videos, I would have chose the faster 32gb in a heartbeat
@@consumertechwarehousewhy
I bought a top specc’d 9i - sadly, total OBF. Won’t boot, no response, only RGB turns on. After waiting 6 weeks for the machine to arrive, I have to wait all over again for replacement unit 😔
Pls tell if this display use pwm?
It does. I had a section where I talked about about the flickering
my dude you gotta work on the plosives during recording
Yeah! New mic and still learning how to talk into it properly. I think I’ll get another pop filter. Heard it’ll help this particular mic.
@consumertechwarehouse9381 right on. Holding it at a 45 degree angle from your mouth while you speak can help too
@lernwithreynald3859 ok. I heard about that somewhere too. I’ll try that next time.
Got the 7pro 4090. Maxed out everything. Absolute garbage. Can't wait to get this one!
What makes it garbage?
@@consumertechwarehouse Bluetooth doesn't work. Overheating issues. 4090 is not working right. Ran it through 3d mark and got pretty low score compared to others. I fixed the FPS somewhat but still have studdering. Internet drops if I'm playing fortnite but don't have issues with ps5 or any of my other devices. Windows drivers weren't working right along with Nvidia drivers. There's been some recent updates that somewhat fixed the problem. Watching movies has delay issues and there's flickering on the screen. Customer service said computer is defective and to return so I'm going to get the 9.
I almost got that one before ordering the 9i yesterday , what don’t you like about yours ?
@MiguelRodriguez-my3dg It was defective and over heating. I think the 9i is way better choice. The 7 was fine but didn't feel or work like a premium gaming laptop for the price.
@@MiguelRodriguez-my3dg It was sadly defective. I'm looking to actually get a PC and then a MacBook later on i think
can you give it away to me please
I think I'd have a brain embolism from a water cooled laptop lol. in a good way or whatever hahah
Wanna see camera 📸📸
Web cam is fine. Nothing special. I'll include a sample in the review.
didn't you also buy blade 16 lol, is your wallet doing ok.
macbook pro will easily win in speaker departement also. Probably not a big difference in prossesing power without powerbrick either.
But it cant game so who cares if u into gaming😂😂
@@OBX99 That's what playstation is for 👌
@@MrErico12345678 still cant carry it around
This laptop is nearly twice as powerful than a ps5 and in many regards more powerful than the m2 max
@@consumertechwarehouse true.
Legion slim 7i is better, only negative is 16 GB RAM soldered.
Looks corky!
good hardware at an absurd price, pointless 'water cooling' and inferior lid material