Fascinating. As someone who is obsessed with security I'm definitely going to play around with this. I find the best thing to do is to just create the wallet, put a little money in it and then delete and recover it many many times over and over until it is an ingrained habit. Being able to recover a wallet I find gives confidence and reduces fear.
@@jackw_ Just use a Passphrase. Less Complicated. Less to remember. This method adds more complication than necessary in my opinion. I prefer SIMPLE and when I finally understood how to use a Passphrase, I realized how complicated I was making it prior to not using one. Just my opinion.
Not only useful when fleeing a country. It can also be a viable solution for someone with a lifestyle that prevents them from having a perfectly secure place to store a seed phrase. Example, if you share an apartment or a room with "strangers", if you live in a car or a trailer, or in a hotel, etc... Once again thanks for the great content Ben!
Having the keys as words opens a whole world of creative ways to store them. I created a poem with my words and a pattern to recover them. No one having the poem alone could retrieve my seed
I am a major fan of Sparrow and use it, along with my node, as my main wallet. This, however, is the slickest thing I think I have ever seen. Kudos to Sparrow for bringing this to us.
This is amazing! Especially when governments try to seize your bitcoins and you need to flee without anything. We are living in crazy times and better be prepared for every situation!
Nice, but with both of those methods, the issue is with losing either PDF, or that faux seed phrase taken off you or lost. Lose THAT and you remembering a pattern and a word are useless to you.
Thanks so much, Ben, for all you do. I didn't understand how to do this until I saw your video. When at the border wallets website I was operating under the incorrect pretense I was supposed to plug my current seed phrase (my hhw one) and so nothing made sense. Then you made it clear we are creating a separate wallet. That was my 'duh' moment. Thanks again, Ben. You rock.
Dude, you are up there with the best with your understanding of Bitcoin and TA. As to what Bitcoin will be in the next 2 years, well who really knows! But I would guess that 100-150k dollars is possible. Keep up the good work. ✊🙏🏻
Is sparrow used this way considered a "cold wallet" since it doesn't (or at least isn't supposed to) store your private key? But your key IS reconstructed and loaded into memory at one point and therefor could possibly leak or not properly deleted or get copied by some sort of hack, couldn't it? it's not airgapped like it would be using the PSBT method. It does seem like your private key would be relatively safe this way, but I wonder where this falls on the security spectrum if someone was going to hold a significant amount of BTC and use this method as a substitute for a hardware wallet? Maybe it's on par with using a HW wallet in non-airgapped mode? I realize the intent is to use this method as a short term work around for a special circumstance but people may be tempted to use this as a substitute for an HW wallet....
What if u not able to get pdf, computer with u???? Would have been cool if there is one universal pdf in sparrow where I can download later on and just go thru my pattern. Right????
This is not meant for long term storage, just a paranoid way to cross a border. Once you recover you bitcoin when safe, you can put your bitcoin wherever you think is safest.
The second seed phrase selected with the pattern + 1 word is just a BIP39 compliant seed phrase. It just gives a method to remember the real seed phrase without remembering all the words. If you wanted to store the real seed phrase 12 words (11 words plus the 1 word), you could theoretically restore that to any wallet that supports the derivation path (which looks to be m/84'/0'/0) and Native Segwit (though you can change both those things to suit your needs). So, if you like the idea but are concerned, save the real seed phrase stamped in metal somewhere very, very safe just so you have it in case border wallets and sparrow shit the bed. I would also verify that I can restore the real seed to at least a handful of mainstream wallets before I would do this. That said, it's neat, but not for me. Not now anyways. Hope this helps.
so its basically to have a seed that generates in diferent order the BIP39 words instead of an alphanumerical order. after that, then remember paint your pattern. If you lose the pdf or the seed you are in trouble, so its not very "mental" since you need store something. Its fine, not bad anyway,
I think the main benefit is that you can store the seed anywhere digital, like Google Drive or Dropbox, without the danger of someone sweeping your funds. Ideally you want multiple copies of it. Only you will know what to do with it.
@@BTCSessions The option to store the seeds to create the grid is fine , but you should still need to store a copy of the grid because if for some reason you can not use Sparrow to generate the grid and you must use another wallet the only way to get your real wallet seeds back is with the grid + the pattern + the word number 12. I am right ? Thanks
I don't see the point. You still need to have either one of those files at hand. In the beginning I thought the additional word that you have to remember would somehow be the key to regenerate the grid. That would have been interesting. But I see that's not the case.
I see the main benefit being you can store the seed to generate your grid literally anywhere (including digital storage on a computer, phone or the cloud) and have no real risk of anyone stealing your funds if they find it
Hey Ben. BorderWallets are the way to go, but have you figured out how to set/get a BorderWallet onto a hardware wallet like ColdCard as the default wallet? The only way, that I have figured out, is to use a Sparrow hot wallet and then import that into a ColdCard.
The way to do this would be to follow Ben's tutorial to generate your Border Wallets Entropy Grid, then your 11-cell pattern, then calculate final word/checksum. Then write down the seed phrase and import it into Coldcard via that seed phrase. For recovery later if you then delete the file, you keep your Entropy Grid recovery mnemonic which regenerates the grid, memorise your 11-cell pattern (including cell selection order), and final word.
It is clear that there not exist a totally infallible method. If the bad guys catch you, they sit you in a chair without a seat and they start kicking you in the balls (like 007) finally you will say you pattern, even say your grandmother's name... Border Wallets seems to be a good option. Ben's videos are magnificent. Thanks Ben!
20:34 It might be useful to put a small amount of bitcoin onto that fake seed phrase so that anyone who found it would think they actually found something real. Meanwhile most of your bitcoin is sitting behind a different key. ....Oh wait. You mention this at 25:08
I got a question. Is there are way to generate the 12 words using an air gapped HW and still apply them to a grid without touching your device (potentially exposing them on the web)?
As much as I like the idea it seems to me it only works like you’re setting up a hot wallet. I would love to be wrong though and I’d appreciate the input.
The software will forever be available on the internet just like bitcoin is. Although it won't be updated, but the latest version will always be there for you to use
@BTCSessions - What version of Sparrow are you using? When I follow along with Sparrow 1.7.6 - the phrase generated from the pattern has words 6/9 and 7/8 inverted, making "harvest" an invalid 12th word. Is this a (serious) bug or did you change the selection pattern order in post production? 12:48 - your pattern selection; 13:42 - generated words after hitting OK
Well spotted. There was a bug in 1.7.5 which "read" the cells from left to right, instead of picking them out individually. This was detailed in the release notes for 1.7.6, which was released very shortly after 1.7.5 and included the patch.
The main purpose of this is for temporary use when escaping a dire situation in which physical confiscation is likely. In that window you're banking on your brain being more reliable than NOT getting searched. As soon as you reach safety, it's best to create a properly secured backup.
that's awesm! can it also work if I mark the "question mark or P" in reverse using ur "P" example? or do I have to do the same pattern from the top? in other words can I do the same exact "P" starting from anywhere ?
What's the point of carrying a paper decoy? Just a waste of money. Put the seed phrase on a cloud so you can access it anywhere in the world without anyone taking the paper away from you at a border.
What, memorizing P and harvest? It sounds like a breeze to me. I'd be over the border, download my 12 Border seed words from the internet and be in business in minutes.
@@jamesthompson3099 you need the grid, you also need some sort of familiarity as to what words belong in your pattern. To each its own but this is creating another layer of compication imo.
@@mchu7371 You only need the seed and your pattern plus word. Nothing more. The seed isn’t secret so you can carry it with you or put it on iCloud or Google. Very simple.
Thanks for the update. The market seems to be bouncing back but a lot of people lost huge sums already.. I will advise traders, especially newbies, to have an orientation of the market before getting involved. I must say trading offers more benefits than just holding and I have made over 19btc from day trading with Linda Wilburn insights and signals in less than 3 weeks, so glad I started her program.
Well explained. However, I honestly don't like this system, because you lose deniability. Any of those files is found in you, and it shows you obviously have a hidden bitcoin wallet there, the 5USD wrench attack could be used. You need to remember the whole procedure: the drawing, with the order in which you selected cells, plus the top-right corner, plus a last word, plus how to do everything with Sparrow Wallet. Also, you are tied to Sparrow now, the recovery must be done with that tool. I honestly think it is much easier, stealthy and universal to just generate a 12-word seedphrase, invent a story with them and memorize it.
You seem to have missed Ben explaining the part about retaining the grid's 12-word Recovery Phrase (which looks and works like a regular seed phrase). This allows you to retain deniability. You could also use different passphrases to get around a wrench attack. If you're more comfortable keeping your 12 words in plain text backup and memorising it, do that. But evidence suggests we are far better at memorising patterns than words over time.
@@MTCbtc Not sure about deniability: you have a regular Bitcoin seedphrase on you. With my approach, if anyone asks about bitcoin, you can say "'Bit-Corn'? And what the hell is That!?". If you only had to remember a pattern... but it is: a pattern, the order in which you drew it, and additional word, and the whole procedure.
@@zeycus You have a decoy wallet on you that maybe contains $100 dollars (like Ben said in his video) and your attacker - if your words are discovered in the first place - is gone. But remembering the procedure? That's a cinch and has good UX. But if you think you're the kind of person who'd struggle to replay the pretty simply procedure, though. don't use it. This is a tool designed for those who need it and will find a pattern and a word easier to remember over time than 12 non-contiguous words.
This is completely pointless. Why not just have a seed somewhere and memorize a passphrase? In both instances you aren't storing bitcoin in your head, you only have part of the info memorized to recover your BTC. Wow, I'm dumbfounded. This must be a paid shill to promote Sparrow's new dumb feature.
Passphrase is obviously another great option. That said, just because I make a video on an alternative way of doing things it must be a "paid shill"? Brutal. The main difference here would be if you store a seed somewhere, a non-complex passphrase can be brute forced. In this example, you can store a seed with no indication it's to a border wallet, and brute forcing it would be impossible even IF someone thought it might be a border wallet. They might generate the grid but would have no idea about your pattern or checksum. Tradeoffs and personal preference.
@@BTCSessions I don't agree with the paid shill part. I think you bring us a lot of good ideas that we otherwise would not know about. While I initially thought this was a great idea....after watching the whole video I realized that unless I was missing something, I really didn't see how this was any better than using a passphrase because I just don't see how anyone could brut force a good Passphrase. It would take a LONG LONG TIME unless it was a typical dictionary word and someone just happened to try it and "got lucky". Anyone who uses passphrases knows that IT MUST BE THE EXACT Word or phrase including any special characters, etc. That combination is INFINITE. And the person trying to BRUT FORCE it would have to go through the process of trying EVERY POSSIBILITY (which is IMPOSSIBLE) and each time they TRY.....they are in fact CREATING a new passphrase wallet which would be EMPTY. At some point, they would need to evaluate the RISK/REWARD and they would find they are completely WASTING THEIR TIME because........for all they know........there may not have ever been a Passphrase wallet created in the first place so they could be searching for something that doesn't even exist (until they actually create it.....with a ZERO Balance. I have created MANY MANY 24 Word Seeds over the past 6 years....NONE of which had a Passphrase wallet....until very recently. Even if someone were to see my 24 Seed Words....I don't see ANY POSSIBILITY of them EVER Guessing my Passphrase. Not in a million years....and it doesn't have to be a complicated Passphrase. Just complicated enough. Trying to prevent losing your crypto is complicated enough. I really think using a passphrase is the Best option unless someone can better explain why not. Either way.......keep bring us the ideas!!! It is still appreciated because you just never know which one will be a Home Run.
@@mmm1x Using a Passphrase is BY FAR easier and safer in my opinion....and Even if your seed words are out in the open for anyone to see.....please explain how anyone....including a super computer would EVER guess the INFINITE combinations of Letters, Numbers, Characters that can be used to create a Passphrase wallet and the length of the Passphrase can be Quite Long making it even more complicated. You can create an INFINITE number of Passphrase wallets for a Single 24 word seed which means it would be a complete waste of time trying to BRUT FORCE Attack a Seed Phrase because you wouldn't even know if an actual Passphrase Wallet even exists yet. There are likely millions of seed words that never had a Passphrase wallet generated.
Well if someone got your grid-seed and kept it away from you (confiscated it) they dont have your BTC... but now you dont have your grid, which means you lose your funds anyways...
You should be careful with how you store your grid or the grid recovery phrase, but given both can be stored digitally, making multiple copies is free and easy.
Fascinating. As someone who is obsessed with security I'm definitely going to play around with this. I find the best thing to do is to just create the wallet, put a little money in it and then delete and recover it many many times over and over until it is an ingrained habit. Being able to recover a wallet I find gives confidence and reduces fear.
This is such a good idea. This is an awesome piece of mind recovery tool.
@@jackw_ Just use a Passphrase. Less Complicated. Less to remember. This method adds more complication than necessary in my opinion. I prefer SIMPLE and when I finally understood how to use a Passphrase, I realized how complicated I was making it prior to not using one. Just my opinion.
@@CanesFan65 if someone steals your seed the pw u set is useless man
Just until you get Alzheimer..or get brain accident
Risk to your self, just safe the seed phrase, in some reason brain accident, you are in bug trouble.
Not only useful when fleeing a country. It can also be a viable solution for someone with a lifestyle that prevents them from having a perfectly secure place to store a seed phrase. Example, if you share an apartment or a room with "strangers", if you live in a car or a trailer, or in a hotel, etc... Once again thanks for the great content Ben!
Having the keys as words opens a whole world of creative ways to store them. I created a poem with my words and a pattern to recover them. No one having the poem alone could retrieve my seed
Great idea
Time Stamps:
0:00 - 3:57 - Intro/Sponsors
3:57 - 6:53 - Prerequisites
6:53 - 16:41 - Border Wallet Setup / Backup
16:41 - 20:07 - Broder Wallet Recovery: Method #1
20:07 - 24:00 - Border Wallet Recovery: Method #2
24:00 - 29:53 - Final Thoughts
29:53 - 32:00 - Outro
I am a major fan of Sparrow and use it, along with my node, as my main wallet. This, however, is the slickest thing I think I have ever seen. Kudos to Sparrow for bringing this to us.
Sparrow Wallet is the best
Interesting video.
Last word is always the checksum
This is amazing! Especially when governments try to seize your bitcoins and you need to flee without anything. We are living in crazy times and better be prepared for every situation!
You speak English, you're not fleeing anywhere, bitcoiners have lost their minds.
Nice, but with both of those methods, the issue is with losing either PDF, or that faux seed phrase taken off you or lost. Lose THAT and you remembering a pattern and a word are useless to you.
So grateful for your work! Thank you!!!
Ben, you have one of the best bitcoin education channels on RUclips. You deserve more subs!
So the a unique grid is generated each time? So if you lose the copy of the grid you're screwed - correct?
Thanks so much, Ben, for all you do. I didn't understand how to do this until I saw your video. When at the border wallets website I was operating under the incorrect pretense I was supposed to plug my current seed phrase (my hhw one) and so nothing made sense. Then you made it clear we are creating a separate wallet. That was my 'duh' moment. Thanks again, Ben. You rock.
what a cool idea.. fantastic
Dude, you are up there with the best with your understanding of Bitcoin and TA. As to what Bitcoin will be in the next 2 years, well who really knows! But I would guess that 100-150k dollars is possible. Keep up the good work. ✊🙏🏻
Is sparrow used this way considered a "cold wallet" since it doesn't (or at least isn't supposed to) store your private key? But your key IS reconstructed and loaded into memory at one point and therefor could possibly leak or not properly deleted or get copied by some sort of hack, couldn't it? it's not airgapped like it would be using the PSBT method. It does seem like your private key would be relatively safe this way, but I wonder where this falls on the security spectrum if someone was going to hold a significant amount of BTC and use this method as a substitute for a hardware wallet? Maybe it's on par with using a HW wallet in non-airgapped mode? I realize the intent is to use this method as a short term work around for a special circumstance but people may be tempted to use this as a substitute for an HW wallet....
Awesome work sir... Thanks again for another tutorial. I will definitely mess around with this.
Man, you and I think a lot alike. This is perfect info. Thank you!
This is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen
fantastic story beautifully explained
any method to regenerate the grid without sparrow?
Great information. Thanks a ton
This could be useful. Thanks for the tutorial!
Am I able to get the grid of words when there is no wallet that support border wallets?
awesome work, however, vulnerability is Sparrow failure or not having access to the code to decipher.
This is a brilliant idea.
This is so cool!
Wow, excellent content!
Very cool
Super interesting solution. Thanks for sharing this info!
What if u not able to get pdf, computer with u???? Would have been cool if there is one universal pdf in sparrow where I can download later on and just go thru my pattern. Right????
No. That would be insecure. You don’t have to take a computer with you. Just get one at your destination.
My concern would be - what if this Sparrow Wallet goes away (no acces)? Then what would we do? Am I missing something?
This is not meant for long term storage, just a paranoid way to cross a border. Once you recover you bitcoin when safe, you can put your bitcoin wherever you think is safest.
The second seed phrase selected with the pattern + 1 word is just a BIP39 compliant seed phrase. It just gives a method to remember the real seed phrase without remembering all the words.
If you wanted to store the real seed phrase 12 words (11 words plus the 1 word), you could theoretically restore that to any wallet that supports the derivation path (which looks to be m/84'/0'/0) and Native Segwit (though you can change both those things to suit your needs).
So, if you like the idea but are concerned, save the real seed phrase stamped in metal somewhere very, very safe just so you have it in case border wallets and sparrow shit the bed. I would also verify that I can restore the real seed to at least a handful of mainstream wallets before I would do this.
That said, it's neat, but not for me. Not now anyways. Hope this helps.
Sparrow and border wallets aren’t going anywhere.
This would be better if i could put an existing seed from another wallet in to create a borderles wallet.
A sophisticated thief would know to make a grid. But then they would have no idea of your pattern. Bravo.
so its basically to have a seed that generates in diferent order the BIP39 words instead of an alphanumerical order.
after that, then remember paint your pattern.
If you lose the pdf or the seed you are in trouble, so its not very "mental" since you need store something.
Its fine, not bad anyway,
I think the main benefit is that you can store the seed anywhere digital, like Google Drive or Dropbox, without the danger of someone sweeping your funds. Ideally you want multiple copies of it. Only you will know what to do with it.
@@BTCSessions The option to store the seeds to create the grid is fine , but you should still need to store a copy of the grid because if for some reason you can not use Sparrow to generate the grid and you must use another wallet the only way to get your real wallet seeds back is with the grid + the pattern + the word number 12.
I am right ?
Thanks
@@poli7850why wouldn’t you be able to generate the grid?
I don't see the point. You still need to have either one of those files at hand. In the beginning I thought the additional word that you have to remember would somehow be the key to regenerate the grid. That would have been interesting. But I see that's not the case.
I see the main benefit being you can store the seed to generate your grid literally anywhere (including digital storage on a computer, phone or the cloud) and have no real risk of anyone stealing your funds if they find it
Does this seed phrase work with other assets in addition to Btc like eth sol etc
Is there an actual recovery seed phrase if you wanted to use it.
Hey Ben. BorderWallets are the way to go, but have you figured out how to set/get a BorderWallet onto a hardware wallet like ColdCard as the default wallet? The only way, that I have figured out, is to use a Sparrow hot wallet and then import that into a ColdCard.
The way to do this would be to follow Ben's tutorial to generate your Border Wallets Entropy Grid, then your 11-cell pattern, then calculate final word/checksum. Then write down the seed phrase and import it into Coldcard via that seed phrase. For recovery later if you then delete the file, you keep your Entropy Grid recovery mnemonic which regenerates the grid, memorise your 11-cell pattern (including cell selection order), and final word.
It is clear that there not exist a totally infallible method. If the bad guys catch you, they sit you in a chair without a seat and they start kicking you in the balls (like 007) finally you will say you pattern, even say your grandmother's name...
Border Wallets seems to be a good option.
Ben's videos are magnificent.
Thanks Ben!
20:34 It might be useful to put a small amount of bitcoin onto that fake seed phrase so that anyone who found it would think they actually found something real. Meanwhile most of your bitcoin is sitting behind a different key.
....Oh wait. You mention this at 25:08
So you can use any computer in another country and you just have these words and pattern and you can get your money?
Yes
thanks a lot ， it helpful
I got a question. Is there are way to generate the 12 words using an air gapped HW and still apply them to a grid without touching your device (potentially exposing them on the web)?
As much as I like the idea it seems to me it only works like you’re setting up a hot wallet. I would love to be wrong though and I’d appreciate the input.
Why do you trust web wallets? What makes these wallets verifiable?
It's not a web wallet. Both Sparrow and Border Wallets are open source - you can inspect the code base for yourself.
Truly brilliant.
You set your bar pretty low.
@@brianshaw4867 Still too high for anything you could accomplish.
Amazing unless you hit your head and forget things.
I have a bad memory, give me a wallet with a retina scan 😎
If Sparrow is not available in the future, how would one regenerate their grid?
The software will forever be available on the internet just like bitcoin is. Although it won't be updated, but the latest version will always be there for you to use
@@mrbmro3991or passed to someone to update and carry the torch
@BTCSessions - What version of Sparrow are you using? When I follow along with Sparrow 1.7.6 - the phrase generated from the pattern has words 6/9 and 7/8 inverted, making "harvest" an invalid 12th word. Is this a (serious) bug or did you change the selection pattern order in post production? 12:48 - your pattern selection; 13:42 - generated words after hitting OK
I have 1.7.6 and it works fine so, yes, it is either something he posted or you mistyped. Either way it should be easy to sort out.
Well spotted. There was a bug in 1.7.5 which "read" the cells from left to right, instead of picking them out individually. This was detailed in the release notes for 1.7.6, which was released very shortly after 1.7.5 and included the patch.
Genious!
What happens if Sparrow goes under or no longer supports their software?
You manually enter the words from your grid
What if u incur a TMI (traumatic brain injury)
The main purpose of this is for temporary use when escaping a dire situation in which physical confiscation is likely. In that window you're banking on your brain being more reliable than NOT getting searched.
As soon as you reach safety, it's best to create a properly secured backup.
that's awesm! can it also work if I mark the "question mark or P" in reverse using ur "P" example? or do I have to do the same pattern from the top?
in other words can I do the same exact "P" starting from anywhere ?
This is cool. Do bitaxe next please
Someone should create this for a Bitcoin wallet file so it requires a grid pattern and a passphrase to open.
What if you lose the entropy grid😂
Can you recreat an existing seed as a border wallet?
What's the point of carrying a paper decoy? Just a waste of money. Put the seed phrase on a cloud so you can access it anywhere in the world without anyone taking the paper away from you at a border.
this is def harder than just memorizing the seedphrases imo
What, memorizing P and harvest? It sounds like a breeze to me. I'd be over the border, download my 12 Border seed words from the internet and be in business in minutes.
@@jamesthompson3099 you need the grid, you also need some sort of familiarity as to what words belong in your pattern. To each its own but this is creating another layer of compication imo.
@@mchu7371 You only need the seed and your pattern plus word. Nothing more. The seed isn’t secret so you can carry it with you or put it on iCloud or Google. Very simple.
@@jamesthompson3099 you need your entropy grid aka another method of storage to make your patterns work, how are you completely ignoring this?
you're protecting yet again a piece of data + making sure the data isn't corrupted + and then your patterns + word on top
Thanks for the update. The market seems to be bouncing back but a lot of people lost huge sums already.. I will advise traders, especially newbies, to have an orientation of the market before getting involved. I must say trading offers more benefits than just holding and I have made over 19btc from day trading with Linda Wilburn insights and signals in less than 3 weeks, so glad I started her program.
Well explained. However, I honestly don't like this system, because you lose deniability. Any of those files is found in you, and it shows you obviously have a hidden bitcoin wallet there, the 5USD wrench attack could be used. You need to remember the whole procedure: the drawing, with the order in which you selected cells, plus the top-right corner, plus a last word, plus how to do everything with Sparrow Wallet. Also, you are tied to Sparrow now, the recovery must be done with that tool. I honestly think it is much easier, stealthy and universal to just generate a 12-word seedphrase, invent a story with them and memorize it.
You seem to have missed Ben explaining the part about retaining the grid's 12-word Recovery Phrase (which looks and works like a regular seed phrase). This allows you to retain deniability. You could also use different passphrases to get around a wrench attack. If you're more comfortable keeping your 12 words in plain text backup and memorising it, do that. But evidence suggests we are far better at memorising patterns than words over time.
@@MTCbtc Not sure about deniability: you have a regular Bitcoin seedphrase on you. With my approach, if anyone asks about bitcoin, you can say "'Bit-Corn'? And what the hell is That!?". If you only had to remember a pattern... but it is: a pattern, the order in which you drew it, and additional word, and the whole procedure.
@@zeycus You have a decoy wallet on you that maybe contains $100 dollars (like Ben said in his video) and your attacker - if your words are discovered in the first place - is gone. But remembering the procedure? That's a cinch and has good UX. But if you think you're the kind of person who'd struggle to replay the pretty simply procedure, though. don't use it. This is a tool designed for those who need it and will find a pattern and a word easier to remember over time than 12 non-contiguous words.
This is completely pointless. Why not just have a seed somewhere and memorize a passphrase? In both instances you aren't storing bitcoin in your head, you only have part of the info memorized to recover your BTC. Wow, I'm dumbfounded. This must be a paid shill to promote Sparrow's new dumb feature.
Just saw your comment after I posted a LONG comment basically saying the same thing. Wondered If I was missing something here.
Passphrase is obviously another great option. That said, just because I make a video on an alternative way of doing things it must be a "paid shill"? Brutal.
The main difference here would be if you store a seed somewhere, a non-complex passphrase can be brute forced. In this example, you can store a seed with no indication it's to a border wallet, and brute forcing it would be impossible even IF someone thought it might be a border wallet. They might generate the grid but would have no idea about your pattern or checksum.
Tradeoffs and personal preference.
@@mmm1x 🤡
@@BTCSessions I don't agree with the paid shill part. I think you bring us a lot of good ideas that we otherwise would not know about. While I initially thought this was a great idea....after watching the whole video I realized that unless I was missing something, I really didn't see how this was any better than using a passphrase because I just don't see how anyone could brut force a good Passphrase. It would take a LONG LONG TIME unless it was a typical dictionary word and someone just happened to try it and "got lucky". Anyone who uses passphrases knows that IT MUST BE THE EXACT Word or phrase including any special characters, etc. That combination is INFINITE. And the person trying to BRUT FORCE it would have to go through the process of trying EVERY POSSIBILITY (which is IMPOSSIBLE) and each time they TRY.....they are in fact CREATING a new passphrase wallet which would be EMPTY. At some point, they would need to evaluate the RISK/REWARD and they would find they are completely WASTING THEIR TIME because........for all they know........there may not have ever been a Passphrase wallet created in the first place so they could be searching for something that doesn't even exist (until they actually create it.....with a ZERO Balance. I have created MANY MANY 24 Word Seeds over the past 6 years....NONE of which had a Passphrase wallet....until very recently. Even if someone were to see my 24 Seed Words....I don't see ANY POSSIBILITY of them EVER Guessing my Passphrase. Not in a million years....and it doesn't have to be a complicated Passphrase. Just complicated enough. Trying to prevent losing your crypto is complicated enough. I really think using a passphrase is the Best option unless someone can better explain why not. Either way.......keep bring us the ideas!!! It is still appreciated because you just never know which one will be a Home Run.
@@mmm1x Using a Passphrase is BY FAR easier and safer in my opinion....and Even if your seed words are out in the open for anyone to see.....please explain how anyone....including a super computer would EVER guess the INFINITE combinations of Letters, Numbers, Characters that can be used to create a Passphrase wallet and the length of the Passphrase can be Quite Long making it even more complicated. You can create an INFINITE number of Passphrase wallets for a Single 24 word seed which means it would be a complete waste of time trying to BRUT FORCE Attack a Seed Phrase because you wouldn't even know if an actual Passphrase Wallet even exists yet. There are likely millions of seed words that never had a Passphrase wallet generated.
Well if someone got your grid-seed and kept it away from you (confiscated it) they dont have your BTC... but now you dont have your grid, which means you lose your funds anyways...
Put it in an encrypted (or not) file on the web. Mail it to a friend at your destination. It isn't secret.
@@jamesthompson3099 hmm ok thats interesting.
You should be careful with how you store your grid or the grid recovery phrase, but given both can be stored digitally, making multiple copies is free and easy.
Better to store the recovery phrase digitally. It can a t as a decoy. The frid is a big giveaway