Good to see Norton back and much evolved without losing it's distinct style. as most bikes today look like pissed off insects, I really enjoyed my Norton 850 commando roadster 50 years ago. Though far out of my affordable means, The Ranger appeals to me now days, as i am in my 70's and find myself missing my 1967 Triumph 200 Mountain Cub,
Brings back great memories of my Commando Interstate and my Norton Dunstall 810. Few if any bikes had the handling of a Norton! It’s great to see the elements of the old Norton’s reborn! It’s a little late for me as I’m now 79 yo and I envy the youngsters who will have the thrill of the Norton heritage.
Had a '72 750cc Commando back in the day. Was a blast to ride. Crankcase blew a gasket on my parents drive day one day but slapped another one in and kept going. Put a two into one exhaust on it. Got rid of it when my brother gave me his 750cc Suzuki water buffalo. Sadly, let it go.
77hp seems a bit lacklustre for a modern near-1000cc motorcycle? My 1971 Commando Combat wasn’t far behind that with nominal 65hp for a 750, so they say. And you don’t even get a six-speed box? Guess it’s a step up from the old four-speed. I’ll admit the twins are nice looking machines, but if I was to part with that sort of cash I’d be looking to get one of the original Mk-3 Commando Roadsters instead, with most of the bugs ironed out.
Coming from the Norton Dominator 88-99 era as l do l believe it was the best bike they built. they had an enviable reputation for handling...Featherbed...it fact it was so good...for its time...we would swop out the Norton engine and stick a Triumph Bonnie engine in its place..
only riders that can feel the difference between concrete that is rebar reinforced, and non-rebar reinforced, are the people that can tell the difference between full soft and full hard settings in Ohlins suspensions
The ranger is a great new model and the fit, finish and QC at Norton is top notch and there are no shortcuts on the materials used or the craftsmanship. Better even than Triumph and their sppe triple 1200 is gorgeous and faster but even the great fit and finish on the triumph is tip top. The 765 street triple is the other one i like and the bonneville 1200 scrambler but the commando 961 TT edition is really gorgeous.
I do not like the fastback tail section. I trying to be really optimistic about Norton making a comeback. So far the V4 SV is probably my favorite offering. I seriously doubt I will ever even see a Norton here in the US. THEY BETTER BE BETTER THAN A LAND ROVER OR JAGUAR OR MINI. Come on UK get it together. Doing pretty good with Triumph.
@@hepcat-bob Yes Bob, they are very expensive, also it’s a niche market, the retro cafe racer has had its day in terms of fashion , Triumph have just stopped production of the 1200 Thruxton due to declining sales (glad about that as it makes mine more exclusive! 🙂), so you have an expensive retro bike with quite a few weaknesses compared to its competitors (low power, vibration, poor dealer network, high price), it’s doomed to failure I would say, the only thing that potentially will save it is TVS’s future plans for the brand as a whole, nobody knows what they are, 125cc Norton’s?, who knows!
India based TVS Motor Corporation bought all the shares in Norton Motorcycle Company and then enthusiastically proceeded to revive it. 5:20 - That's not 12cc that's 1200 cc 😂
A Georgian mansion in Surrey,England, sitting in 22 acres was only £22.000 in 1968,I just found an old magazine, so $250 was a lot of cash,if that house is worth a minimum of £22m today ?
Norton likes to think they are the Bugatti of motorcycles. Triumph is successful because they build good bikes with competitive pricing. A 961 Commando isn’t worth the cost of 3 Triumph Bonnevilles / Speed 900 bikes when they showed up in Canada. Royal Enfield is also doing well with their bikes and reasonable price tags.
Brembo brakes, Ohlins suspension, with a seriously underpowered engine. Personally, I would like to see Norton do well, but at these prices, I would buy an Italian masterpiece instead. I don't know what market they are aiming these bikes at.
Norton, Hand Crafted by a real human not some heartless machine, So why then, use some DOS 6.0 powered AI to really bugger up the english language and make a good experience awful?
Matchless and AJS were the first marque with swimgarm rear suspension. Full length oil damped rear shock absorbers, telegraphic front suspension and actually purchased Norton in 1954. When the Norton Commando went into production, the Norton factory was already closed and all assembly was done at Plumbstead. They were really a Matchless/AJS in disguise.
@@franhealey644 The 1911 Morgan Runabout was a three wheeled car, it was not a motorcycle. It had seats, door and a steering wheel. It was not even an outfit. You do know the difference between a car and a motorcycle do you?
All lovely bikes but such a pity they are so expensive so as to put them out of the reach of so many that would genuinely want to own and use one as a daily ride. Maybe onday they might put a road going version of the Manx together
@@TheBlibo I have a brace of both in my garage, as well as a lifetime of basket cases to restore. I started collecting 30 yrs ago and people thought I was a few cents short of the dollar with all my purchases. The reality is that I couldn't purchase what I have now, values have risen so much. In the end we are only custodians. Other people will have the joy of ownership when I pass on.
Basically the same two bikes they have been selling for a while now plus one fictitious one. The 650 is not in production and there is no published price.
are these engines made by Norton, they have a history of rebadging engines since the 1950s AJS/Matchless. the Commando is OK but the seat has to go, does anyone make another seat and rear end as the one it has now is awful, a nice big fat flat seat like the original Commandos had would be much better, this so-called review must have been paid for by Norton, not one single negative and showing bikes that will never go into production, the Atlas was scrapped before this video was posted,
Hey!, don't you be dissing My Grammy's silver ware!, she rubbed her fingers raw to make it shine!😮😊😅❤, bikes are beautiful, but out of my financial grasp😢, sorry 😔
As an old Norton rider these are underpowered for the price!
Yes it is
Good to see Norton back and much evolved without losing it's distinct style. as most bikes today look like pissed off insects, I really enjoyed my Norton 850 commando roadster 50 years ago. Though far out of my affordable means, The Ranger appeals to me now days, as i am in my 70's and find myself missing my 1967 Triumph 200 Mountain Cub,
Brings back great memories of my Commando Interstate and my Norton Dunstall 810. Few if any bikes had the handling of a Norton! It’s great to see the elements of the old Norton’s reborn! It’s a little late for me as I’m now 79 yo and I envy the youngsters who will have the thrill of the Norton heritage.
When it comes to motorcycles the Brits make really good beer.
hahah
Absolutely Spectacular bikes!, I love Norton!!!
Yeah. Norton does have quite a lot of potential.
The Commando sp all day long 👌💯👍
I wish Norton well - I once owned a Commando 750 - but this could have been written by the company's ad. agency.
It would great to have Norton in Canada.
Norton, BSA, as will as Triumph were the pride of UK...thier rivals were japanese innovation bikes...
Had a '72 750cc Commando back in the day. Was a blast to ride. Crankcase blew a gasket on my parents drive day one day but slapped another one in and kept going. Put a two into one exhaust on it. Got rid of it when my brother gave me his 750cc Suzuki water buffalo. Sadly, let it go.
12cc V4 engine...cant wait for that one.....makes Honda's 125cc 5 cylinder of the 60s, look huge.
Talk to Al Gorithm. Only he can explain why the absence of two zeros is meaningless.
Nice but far to expensive for my tastes.
They looks good, wow, I would I was 40 years younger....
77hp seems a bit lacklustre for a modern near-1000cc motorcycle? My 1971 Commando Combat wasn’t far behind that with nominal 65hp for a 750, so they say. And you don’t even get a six-speed box? Guess it’s a step up from the old four-speed. I’ll admit the twins are nice looking machines, but if I was to part with that sort of cash I’d be looking to get one of the original Mk-3 Commando Roadsters instead, with most of the bugs ironed out.
Coming from the Norton Dominator 88-99 era as l do l believe it was the best bike they built. they had an enviable reputation for handling...Featherbed...it fact it was so good...for its time...we would swop out the Norton engine and stick a Triumph Bonnie engine in its place..
only riders that can feel the difference between concrete that is rebar reinforced, and non-rebar reinforced, are the people that can tell the difference between full soft and full hard settings in Ohlins suspensions
No dealer network switches ownership every couple of years or so huge money ! Sorry a poor man like myself will have to stick with my Triumphs
Of course the benefit of sticking with Triumph is that you get to own a far better bike 👍
All look very sophisticated, but has any one actually seen one on the road...the ad talks a good fight!
“The 16 liter fuel tank for the long rides”
On a 185 hp V4?
Are they taking the piss on us? Where’s the Joker?
The ranger will sell well, its radically xiffefent and not over technical with too much electronics.
The ranger is a great new model and the fit, finish and QC at Norton is top notch and there are no shortcuts on the materials used or the craftsmanship. Better even than Triumph and their sppe triple 1200 is gorgeous and faster but even the great fit and finish on the triumph is tip top. The 765 street triple is the other one i like and the bonneville 1200 scrambler but the commando 961 TT edition is really gorgeous.
Good to see Norton making motorcycles by hand Hope they stick to air cooled motorcycle the best
Hope so!
I do not like the fastback tail section. I trying to be really optimistic about Norton making a comeback. So far the V4 SV is probably my favorite offering. I seriously doubt I will ever even see a Norton here in the US. THEY BETTER BE BETTER THAN A LAND ROVER OR JAGUAR OR MINI. Come on UK get it together. Doing pretty good with Triumph.
Agreed A LIMEY g
I believe the Norton V4 is an Aprillia motor.
Triumphs aren't made in England anymore.
Did not Norton scrap production plans for the Atlas at the beginning of this year?
sadly they did. I rode one in 2019 and it was fantastic
Oh dear, I just had a look how many 961’s were licensed in the UK in 2023, if I’m reading it right it’s around 150, doesn’t sound great does it 😕
The price is probably keeping that number low.
@@hepcat-bob Yes Bob, they are very expensive, also it’s a niche market, the retro cafe racer has had its day in terms of fashion , Triumph have just stopped production of the 1200 Thruxton due to declining sales (glad about that as it makes mine more exclusive! 🙂), so you have an expensive retro bike with quite a few weaknesses compared to its competitors (low power, vibration, poor dealer network, high price), it’s doomed to failure I would say, the only thing that potentially will save it is TVS’s future plans for the brand as a whole, nobody knows what they are, 125cc Norton’s?, who knows!
Greed!!!! At these prices...get ready for bankruptcy.....
Your not buying a cookie cutter crap Honda
@@donphillips599Hondas will be going long after Norton!
Yea. I think it will be number 11
They're literally hand built in England, that comes at a price.
India based TVS Motor Corporation bought all the shares in Norton Motorcycle Company and then enthusiastically proceeded to revive it.
5:20 - That's not 12cc that's 1200 cc 😂
No liquid cooling in these times of global warming 😮
Are they going to make more than 2 bikes in 2024?
961 is very likeable,the rest is unsound trash?I'm not confident about Norton's future!
Royal enfield is going to own the market. Look how far they have come. Time is up for these companies.
961 classic: tail shape concept directly from a space ship
My first street bike was a 750 Norton Atlas 1965 model. She only had 7,000 mi on her... $ 250. Dollars
A Georgian mansion in Surrey,England, sitting in 22 acres was only £22.000 in 1968,I just found an old magazine, so $250 was a lot of cash,if that house is worth a minimum of £22m today ?
And where can they be maintained?
Norton likes to think they are the Bugatti of motorcycles. Triumph is successful because they build good bikes with competitive pricing. A 961 Commando isn’t worth the cost of 3 Triumph Bonnevilles / Speed 900 bikes when they showed up in Canada. Royal Enfield is also doing well with their bikes and reasonable price tags.
Is there a difference between a 961 and a 9…61?🤔🤔🤔
Only your algorithm knows for sure.
Call me old fashioned but i think wrap around rear fenders are naff.
I’m a Commando 961 lad, but, unfortunately, this lovely machine is out of my reach nowadays😢ATB, mates🍀
Where is the green bike on the thumbnail?
Brembo brakes, Ohlins suspension, with a seriously underpowered engine.
Personally, I would like to see Norton do well, but at these prices, I would buy an Italian masterpiece instead.
I don't know what market they are aiming these bikes at.
The ranger was scrapped last year!
Best option is to wait for used ones to hit the market. Would never want to pay full price for any of these.
The world is mad ............too complex , too much to go wrong . Completely impractical on today’s roads ......DaveH
I want to be a TRUXTON 🏍️
I have a question ❓
timeless that bollocks its not all britsh its more EU
Anyone had a quote for insurance for these bikes!
Yes, bloody expensive.
Unless, of course, you park it in your living room.
Naked ones would look great but very much spoiled by blued discoloured downpipes which look absolutely terrible! All are too expensive!
Rich man's plaything.
“Its not pocket change but can you put a price on ____…” YES. Yes, you can and its not $10k more than the next bike.
I wanted see the green bike
961!!!
Blom masuk indonesia 7 jenis type motor norton keluaran terbaru
Gold forks looked in the year 2000.
Didn't Norton go bust a while ago?
Only available in the UK. Not in the US or Europe.
Norton, Hand Crafted by a real human not some heartless machine, So why then, use some DOS 6.0 powered AI to really bugger up the english language and make a good experience awful?
Matchless and AJS were the first marque with swimgarm rear suspension. Full length oil damped rear shock absorbers, telegraphic front suspension and actually purchased Norton in 1954. When the Norton Commando went into production, the Norton factory was already closed and all assembly was done at Plumbstead. They were really a Matchless/AJS in disguise.
NoMorgan in about 1911
@@franhealey644 The 1911 Morgan Runabout was a three wheeled car, it was not a motorcycle. It had seats, door and a steering wheel. It was not even an outfit. You do know the difference between a car and a motorcycle do you?
All lovely bikes but such a pity they are so expensive so as to put them out of the reach of so many that would genuinely want to own and use one as a daily ride.
Maybe onday they might put a road going version of the Manx together
@@TheBlibo I have a brace of both in my garage, as well as a lifetime of basket cases to restore. I started collecting 30 yrs ago and people thought I was a few cents short of the dollar with all my purchases. The reality is that I couldn't purchase what I have now, values have risen so much. In the end we are only custodians. Other people will have the joy of ownership when I pass on.
JAWA had swinging arm in 1953..
Basically the same two bikes they have been selling for a while now plus one fictitious one. The 650 is not in production and there is no published price.
12cc v-four…..c’mon!
Not exportable to countries that have airpollution regulations.
Over 20,000 dollar's with tax for commando ,if you could get one in usa.
Wow
🥱
norton made their last good bike before 1935
Would but commando can't have one in the usa .,,
are these engines made by Norton, they have a history of rebadging engines since the 1950s AJS/Matchless. the Commando is OK but the seat has to go, does anyone make another seat and rear end as the one it has now is awful, a nice big fat flat seat like the original Commandos had would be much better, this so-called review must have been paid for by Norton, not one single negative and showing bikes that will never go into production, the Atlas was scrapped before this video was posted,
Foreign engines in Nortons have a history dating back to the first Isle of Man Tourist Trophy win in 1904. Peugeot engined Norton.
To expensive for what you getting
Again!
Who owns Norton now?
Hey!, don't you be dissing My Grammy's silver ware!, she rubbed her fingers raw to make it shine!😮😊😅❤, bikes are beautiful, but out of my financial grasp😢, sorry 😔
Terrible machine narration for beautiful machines.
Really 15lt fuel tank for long ride don't think you know that much about bikes
16 grand for 70 hp no chance
Tosh
The commenter is dripping B.S.
They are hardly Bad Boys.
there not building the 650 sorry
British bike being reviewed by an American .....come on
Only for rich people so why bother to watch this crap as you get all the performance for quarter the price
They all look terrible
that atlas is horrid!!! looks like a group of 18 year old students designed that.....with lego......
It’s ugly