Donna can be a total dope lol but this is the best advise Hope could have gotten. Brooke always pushes her to run after Liam like he’s some kinda prize but Donna is telling her SHE is the one that’s the prize. Hope needs to worry about herself. Not worry about Liam and his divided feelings.
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498 something i have come to realize about the Bold fanbase (especially the ones online) is about 60 percent dont see things objectivity or right or wrong, they just see things through who they like and don't. They will rationalize any bad thing a favorite character does but vilify anything good a character they hate does. It used to drive me crazy till i realized this.
@@yao052 I can agree with that! I definitely can defend character bad things and not acknowledge what characters I dislike do good! So you’re definitely right about that!
Ms. Tanner yes thank you I really hope the writers put hope with Thomas so steffy can get a new man or make more Liam interesting an put him back with steffy lol 🤦🏾♀️
Ridiculous people on here lol. Liam and steffy are one of the worst n most toxic couples all time all soaps. They stink! Lope are the greatest couple on bnb. Lope are true love n soulmates and are sweet together for people who understand what true love is.
@@barihope Wow sure what are you crazy. Is that why Liam runs to Steffy when things get hard. Seems you didn't read what was said. Liam and Steffy actually have fun together unlike Hope and Liam who never have fun. Name 1 time they did fun things together. You cant.
Anyone who thinks liam n steffy are a match is wrong. They are the opposite of a match lol. They are all wrong for each other. They are toxic garbage .Liam n hope are a perfect match and are right for each other= fact.
Why is it such a big deal? Maybe she was a shock of what she saw since she an Logan! Stop trying to make you come off as creepy it’s just weird! The first thing you think form this episode!
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498 Of course Donna was in shock. You know what they say, if you go looking for something you'll find it. Also notice Donna was all happy when she thought it was Hope, Liam was making love to but her whole mood changed when she saw it was Steffy.
@@RealTalk1411 Well Donna is an Logan their all believe men belong to them! Every Logan women has been with man who was in relationship! Minus Beth who is a child and Brooke, Katie and Donna mom I believe!
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498 Exactly. They knew this would happen. Steffy told them that to their face. Steffy was hoping the marriage to Hope wouldn't last and Liam would come back to her.
They don't even have any memories together that let u no right their how boring they were they never wrote them in as being a couple or that best couple now they do and they r not bringing in anything to make this soap pop or look good no where. Look who they made the best Steffy best leading lady always and u no what Liam misses that.
I wish when Steffy was pregnant with Aspen the writers would have just let that be the end of the triangle when Liam and Steffy were married they could have paried Hopless with Thomas or Wyatt and start a new generation of Forresters and Spencers, something new and different instead of the same old merry go round of changing partners, oh well it is a soap opera. lol
From 17:50 you can see the lightning between Liam and Steffy. They have an incredible energy and chemistry together. No matter what others say, Liam loved Steffy. But in 2020 I'm happy that Steffy will now have another man at her side.
@@barihope This is your opinion, as it always was. Fortunately, this is not a fact. For my part, the love between Hope and Liam is terribly boring. There was always life between Steffy and Liam. But still I'm glad that she has Finn today, who is obviously a real man in contrast to Liam, who stands by what he says.
People on here r in lala land n dont understand what is fact n reality sorry. It is not my opinion it is fact based in reality. I get that this is a poorly written fake show but its suppose to make sense n be based in reality. In the real world liam n steffy are toxic lust story n not a love story n that is fact not opinion. Anyone can like whoever they want to though. Maybe most people on here just don't get what is n isnt real love. I do.
@@barihope It strikes me again and again that Hope fans and Steffy haters of all people always regard their own opinion as a fact. The fact is that nobody knows what the writers around Bell are up to. Plus, Liam and Steffy are far more than "lust stories" (that might apply to all of Brooke's relationships). Rather, it is life, laughter, and adventure. She always understood and supported him. It was about much more than physical love. Everyone also sees life and thus love differently. There are no "facts" in love. The only right thing to do is to tolerate and accept the way other people live. And that includes love.
Wrong as usual lol. There are set facts for what is n isnt real love. Some 1 who tricks/blackmails some1 into a marriage aka steffy to liam isnt real love. Some 1 who keeps a mom thinking their baby is dead aka thomas to hope isnt real love. It doesn't matter what the writers write or how they try to portray it it will never be real love=fact. Also some1 whose abusive to some1 isnt real love either. So while there are different types of love these general rules do apply in the real world for logical people who understand what is n isnt love.
@@songriver1232 I can see why people will want bill. He is powerful, assertive and manly. lots of women would like that actually. He can also stay calm (most of the time) in a heated situation.
The other was Stuffy ho who signed up to be the stand by girl easy chair recliner with lies and manipulation.. There is a difference.. Hope never sacrificed her integrity ...Steffy lack morals ..so needy and desperate... She was the one who insinuated herself between Hope and Liam before the dust settle.. Never going out to find a man or her own...she even tried with Oliver who wasn't as hard up...Steffy put Liam in the position of having his cake and icecream. What nan would turn down freebies while separated from his true love. He just blew with the wind behind the manipulation.. No backbone to fight for what he wanted until Wyatt came on the scene .
And then Hope's record is playing again: oh maybe I made a mistake after all. If I snap my finger, Liam will come back. But maybe I'll change my mind again.
Yes better leave Steffy and Liam alone, they deserve each other. It's disgusting to watch those two arrogant, insensitive and boring characters. Can they please save us from watching, let they be happy every after and then put them aside and let other people take the stage 🤮🙏
Sadly, after last year, i now know what I have always suspected. Bill was compensating his heart with Katie, then, Brooke, when the true love of his life, was there all along, his Steffy. That's the reason for his shenanigans, with his interference, with Liam & Hope. He was attempting to keep his promise to Steffy, to never abandon her, to always love her. His love for her, was the reason behind all of it. It does not excuse some of his actions, by any means, but, it's true. He tried so hard to let her go & lock away those feelings, but, in the end, he lost. And for that misery & character destruction, of my Bill, I will never forgive Bell for. Very sad indeed. & Now, hes going for a 3rd round with Katie & probably Brooke. Terrible idea, that ends in doom, for all the characters involved. 🤨🧐😢
I really like that they are filming on locations rather than sets. The locations look much better than the sets. I wonder why they took sooo many years to start doing this regularly on this show? Well, I guess no one wants all those cameras and crew around their home everyday.
I agree absolutely, and totally 100% percent that's exactly what hope needs to do first and foremost and what's more it's important to learn from ur past so it can be completely corrected in the future
She lost the man she loved so she has a right to be sad and cry and her brother and family members are lying to her would you say that that was Steffy Forrester😮
Never mind this is 2012! But still no, that couple would suck in 2012! Because it still makes no sense even 11 years! What did those two people have in common? Two completely different people with no chemistry at all in 2013 or 2023! Well at least not good chemistry!
Well Wyatt will come but I know what u guy's mean! Seems like that they haven't got enough money anymore?! Does anyone remember how it was earlier with Brooke? Guy after guy!
Without Eric, Ridge,Thorne she had Conner, James, the policeman, Clarke, Nick, Whip, Decon, the short time guy's like the attorney & more. Same with the women. Sheila, Lauren aso.
Even Katie finally admitted that Bill loved steffy all these years when he gave the foresters share Bill said it out loud that he loves steffy still Katie married him once or twice after
It's not the only thing Liam did with Steffy first. It would make me uncomfortable knowing how many occasions he shared something with Steffy and then Hope later on.
Hope was quite comfortable living in Liam's house and sleeping with him knowing that he slept with Steffy in the same bed. She found nothing wrong with that.
Felt bad for Hope but it is what it is. Liam fell in love with Steffy. And it wasnt a trick or manipulation..The heart wants what it wants. He genuinely fell in love with Steffy
Nope. Liam in love with hope. What's going on this year is a rewrite n I dont believe in rewrites. Liam hadn't been truly in love with steffy ever. Only loves her n has toxic lust for her. Thats it . Steams an unhealthy n bad relationship n nothing bell does will undo that truth .
@barihope You believe what you believe and I'll believe what I believe. Liam and Hope was always constant stress and heartache. If that's "True Love" then I don't want any part of that. I'll keep hoping for my ship. Steffy and Liam forever
Heather Tom is a great actress but she is stuck with an awful character. Katie Logan has no personality and no storylines past “I’m a constantly sick mother and Bill May or may not love me”.
Ikr?! Katies character hasn't evolved much over the years. Katie just doesn't fit with Bill anymore. Neither does Brooke, either. Sure wish they would send a new woman for Bill. No more Logan's, or Forresters. Someone completely new. I like Ashley, from Y&R. With her new ruthless side, she would be an interesting choice for Bill. Yrs ago, she had been on B&B, for a short time & was engaged to Ridge. However, I think it would prolly be a bit awkward, since the actress is one of Don Diamont a exgirlfriends! 🤔🧐
My favorite Katie was when she cussed Brooke out before she slept with Bill and when she fell in love with Ridge. Oh yeah, she was cussing Brooke out then too. There seems to be a theme 😂😂😂
She told him it was over. He begged her over and over and she told him no. What was he suppose to do? Sulk and Cry everyday at work or his house? No, life moves on. He asked her one last time to give him a chance and she said no so he let her go and gave himself to Steffy
i know that katie will be diagnosed later being depressed but you can see how its all building here... soap mums are all happy but katie here is stressing about everything but 'baby will be fine' but also not fighting like she normally would and just wants to rest 💔 i know this is soap but its frustrating that everyone close by isnt seeing that katie is starting to drown 😭💔
Katie keeps harping on what Bill did ... she's been on Bill's case for a few days about it. Sheesh, he gets it .. move on. If that's all she can think about, someone needs to get her a book, or a television with. HULU subscription
It is not only funny that Steffy got Liam to herself, but also the fact that they had sex in Brooke's state, in the cabin which years later Hope n Liam start their life there.
Sometimes it hurts to see how stupid Donna is. Did she think about using her mobile phone to check where Hope is, or consider that someone might be at work during the day??? No, instead she runs over the huge property in high heels screaming and searching for Hope...uhh yes, totally normal 🤦♀️
@@traciepfalz6820 I have told ppl so many times that all Donna has is looks. All Donna offers is sex and nothing else. Stephanie always told her that back in the day. You're all boobs and no brains.
After watching these episodes, who would even think that Hope and Liam had chemistry. Steffy and Liam are hot, hot, hot. Even now,there is still electricity between them.
Yes! What was that for anyway? To make an new love trangle that relaly show how manipulative Hope really is with Liam and Wyatt! Hope made two brothers hate each other that is horrible!
What's said about Hope her mother made her practice principles that was never hers. Hope was born with no manners or decorum the cheap values of Brooke and Deacon!
Brooke never made Hope practice these principles. Hope gave herself those so called "principles" cause she was embarrassed and ashamed of her mother's love life and how she was conceived. She was determined to become the exact opposite of her mother but in trying so hard to be different from her mother, she never became her own person and figured out who she really is. It's really sad
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi Hope doesn't get a pass! She's cheap like her mother, sister, and brother. Hope loves to take, take, take from Ridge and Taylor's children.
You know you can love Liam and Steffy and still feel bad for Hope! Well at least Kim’s Hope not Annika’s Hope! Who deserve nothing but pain and misery a song as I’m concerned!
Hope Logan is miserable right now and Donna could have ended all that so what if you saw them you should have burst in there and been more determined to get your niece back with the man she loves Steffy was so willing to open her legs she don't realize that she is just like Brooke Forrester
Steffy pursued Liam knowing how much he loved Hope. He was with Hope for a whole year before Steffy got in the picture. So Steffy knew how hard it would be to win Liam's heart but she was willing to do whatever it takes cause she fell in love with him. That's what driving all these characters to do the crazy things they do: Love
Is this cabin on brookes property? Im so confused as to the location. Of this place. If it is on brookes property, why wo ou ld they choose that place to get away from hope?
Yes STEAM'S CABIN is on the property that RIDGE gave to Brooken when he lost Taylor and he thought she was gonna be with Thorne and her new baby(Thomas). So instead of moving into an empty huge house ALL ALONE he gave it to Brook4n who was previously living in a condo and her sisters and her kids by Eric needed a larger space. But the property was FORRESTER's property just like the beach house that Wyatt is now living in. In fact the only house that didn't start out as a Forrester house is now STEFFY'S CLIFFHOUSE. LOL🤣🤣🤣🤣IRONIC RIGHT!
@@UrGworlCanCan wrong. Brooke has been in this home. For decades This is the home ridge bought when him and brooke got married the first time. Ridge has never been In that home without broooke. Through all the breakups. Brooke has lived in this home. With bridgette and Rick when they were kids to when they left the nest. The only time brooke did not live in the house is when she went to live with ridge and his kids. But I assume this place was always in her name Because when ridge married taylor at Stephanie's bed side. Brooke took rj and hope and moved back to this home And she told ridge she would never leave this home again. It was always bridge property Never exclusively forrester property
Parental alienation hey? Would you say the same if Taylor was married to Bill and had just had a baby? Or if Steffy was? Or would they be "selfish" and "doing the wrong thing"? Yeah....
Really! His mom died. He clearly has commitment issues. how do I understand that but you don’t? Liam is an man who has been through so much by Hope and Steffy it amazing the guy hasn’t dumped both of them and never came back!
This show is a mess. It doesn't make any sense. I can see why people want Steffy and Liam together because they're all about sex, with Hope we didn't get to see they're wedding night. They did it on purpose, because they want to show how different this relationship are, but for what purpose really? I profoundly dislike this couple, I really loathe both. Liam weakness and inconsistency and Steffy lack of decency or dignity and self respect. I hate they're messing with Hope over and over. She is flawed but man get a grip, how much someone can take? Liam is so not worth it and he lies there with Steffy telling her he's happy while 2 minutes before he declared his love and loyalty to another woman. It's unbearable who does that in real life? Steffy will suffer again and it's all on her. Whe should stop watching this silly crap.
Exactly. Watching this I can't understand why on earth Steffy wants a guy who is clearly still in love, and has always been, with Hope. She just wants him because he waffles and that's easy for her to manipulate. Yet, she seems to be okay being the rebound girl. At least Hope has standards and doesn't want to put up with his immature BS... too bad she hasn't stood more firmly in them.
They also allowed Hope to sleep with Liam whims he was still married multiple times!! It doesn’t matter if he filed for divorce! It was still adulterous so yes it does say a lot about precious Hope! She’s no better than Steffy!
Honestly, BOTH Steffy and Hope are downright GORGEOUS! They're successful and could have ANYONE. What is so special about Liam? He's trash! Treats them both horribly. Gaslights them both. Plays them against one another. All because he loves the adoration he gets. They should both move on.
This is a fake tv show. I don't write it so I don't expect everything to be perfect lol. Just because a writer ends a couple doesn't change my mind about a couple I really like. Luke n Laura daytime greatest couple ended. Does that mean we all have to stop liking them? I say no. I will stick by my couples regardless what writers do.
Liam and hope belong together as they are true love and soulmates. Steam never did or will belong together as they are toxic lust. Real facts are liam and hope belong together!
As a Steffy fan, you Lope fans are welcome to him. He's literally the worst and I think Hope deserves better as well. But if you insist you want him... 🤷♀️
They r the most boring two people I ever seen on this show. Wasting film time on these two for real. Were is the happiness the chemistry the laughter even the Love I don't see none of that like u Hopeless fans say they look more like brother and sister wasteful sorry but boring boring and boring. Turn the station when I see them u can tell Hopeless just want a man their that is it I don't see nothing else. The way him and Steffy chemistry is its like WOW!!! everyone knows that even the Hopeless fan seen it.
2022 and Hope and Liam still winning most boring couple on Daytime per Soap Opera Digest. Sad that Liam is now made into a lap dog for Hope. They ruined him by sticking him with Hope and ruining any good fun he had on the show.
@@kimberlygould8293 I don't care what the magazines or fans say lope is a great couple. And most boring couple is gh Michael n willow a total snoozefest n ynr billy n lily not far behind.
I don't agree liam said himself steffy is his best friend as they talk about everything. They have passion and true love. Don't you this your partner should be your best friend
@@merissathaver7436I agree with that! If I was to love an women I would first want to be her friend! Because if we can’t be friends what really chance do we have as an couple? That the big difference between Hope and Liam and Liam and Steffy! One is is a romance of stupidity at times! One is an love story, they took two years to come true!
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Hey Logans stop blaming Steffy and teach hopeless how to crawl like y'all 🤣🤣🤣
@Christina Bonvillian how so?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂give her a bib and a bottle too
Hope don't have good example how to make relationship work and when to walk away from toxic relationship or marriage
LOL😂😂😂😂
The fact that donna thought brooke would be upset if Hope violated her so called principles .... brooke encouraged Hope to sleep with a married man 😅
Donna can be a total dope lol but this is the best advise Hope could have gotten. Brooke always pushes her to run after Liam like he’s some kinda prize but Donna is telling her SHE is the one that’s the prize. Hope needs to worry about herself. Not worry about Liam and his divided feelings.
Really you honestly believe that? We are watching the same show right? Like, how do you process this?
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498 something i have come to realize about the Bold fanbase (especially the ones online) is about 60 percent dont see things objectivity or right or wrong, they just see things through who they like and don't. They will rationalize any bad thing a favorite character does but vilify anything good a character they hate does. It used to drive me crazy till i realized this.
@@yao052 I can agree with that! I definitely can defend character bad things and not acknowledge what characters I dislike do good! So you’re definitely right about that!
I normally think Donna is just ditsy. However the advise she gave to Hope was actually really good.
She should have told Hope what she saw.
Liam and Steffy Greatest couple, she brings out the best in him he's just boring with Hope point blank period!!
Ms. Tanner yes thank you I really hope the writers put hope with Thomas so steffy can get a new man or make more Liam interesting an put him back with steffy lol 🤦🏾♀️
I agree the r so sweet togther
I 100% agree with you. He has no personality when he is with Hope.
Ridiculous people on here lol. Liam and steffy are one of the worst n most toxic couples all time all soaps. They stink! Lope are the greatest couple on bnb. Lope are true love n soulmates and are sweet together for people who understand what true love is.
@@barihope Wow sure what are you crazy. Is that why Liam runs to Steffy when things get hard. Seems you didn't read what was said. Liam and Steffy actually have fun together unlike Hope and Liam who never have fun. Name 1 time they did fun things together. You cant.
steffy and liam are so good together they belong together even in 2019 Steam heated our screens again
Right. They are a perfect team. Liam is much funnier and livelier with Steffy. Hope is just drama.
I agree
Yes Yes Yes my fellow STEAM fans 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Anyone who thinks liam n steffy are a match is wrong. They are the opposite of a match lol. They are all wrong for each other. They are toxic garbage .Liam n hope are a perfect match and are right for each other= fact.
@@barihope Again notice you are the only one saying everyone is wrong.
It would been better if hope saw him and steffy getting it on
U guys nt foeget rick plz
@@nylapoonsingh453 Rick would've mad a sex tape and shown it to hope
Duran thanks
@@nylapoonsingh453 no problem I meantnto say sex tape instead of sexy
Lol
Donna's advice was on point to hope.she needed to hear that
If she would’ve told the truth, yes! But because she lied, she just keeps adding to the cycle of lies!
And Donna just stood there and watched 😃😵💫😵💫
Why is it such a big deal? Maybe she was a shock of what she saw since she an Logan! Stop trying to make you come off as creepy it’s just weird! The first thing you think form this episode!
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498 Of course Donna was in shock. You know what they say, if you go looking for something you'll find it. Also notice Donna was all happy when she thought it was Hope, Liam was making love to but her whole mood changed when she saw it was Steffy.
@@RealTalk1411 Well Donna is an Logan their all believe men belong to them! Every Logan women has been with man who was in relationship! Minus Beth who is a child and Brooke, Katie and Donna mom I believe!
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498 Exactly. They knew this would happen. Steffy told them that to their face. Steffy was hoping the marriage to Hope wouldn't last and Liam would come back to her.
At least he's not imagining or fantasizing about Hope here... it's about time!!
They don't even have any memories together that let u no right their how boring they were they never wrote them in as being a couple or that best couple now they do and they r not bringing in anything to make this soap pop or look good no where. Look who they made the best Steffy best leading lady always and u no what Liam misses that.
@@lisagrant5232I agree with that!
Steffy and Liam 😍😩
I really wish the writers had Hope at the window watching Steffy and Liam make love.
Me too. That would’ve sent the little girl into a spiral 😆
Yea it would also send to pop more pills and a shrink again 😂😂😂😂
She would have fainted lol
LMAO donna and her shocked look 🤣🤣🤣
I wish when Steffy was pregnant with Aspen the writers would have just let that be the end of the triangle when Liam and Steffy were married they could have paried Hopless with Thomas or Wyatt and start a new generation of Forresters and Spencers, something new and different
instead of the same old merry go round of changing partners, oh well it is a soap opera. lol
First Part Yes! Hope deserved to be alone and miserable!
From 17:50 you can see the lightning between Liam and Steffy. They have an incredible energy and chemistry together. No matter what others say, Liam loved Steffy. But in 2020 I'm happy that Steffy will now have another man at her side.
What liam n steffy have or had isnt real love. Toxic lust yes.
@@barihope This is your opinion, as it always was. Fortunately, this is not a fact. For my part, the love between Hope and Liam is terribly boring. There was always life between Steffy and Liam. But still I'm glad that she has Finn today, who is obviously a real man in contrast to Liam, who stands by what he says.
People on here r in lala land n dont understand what is fact n reality sorry. It is not my opinion it is fact based in reality. I get that this is a poorly written fake show but its suppose to make sense n be based in reality. In the real world liam n steffy are toxic lust story n not a love story n that is fact not opinion. Anyone can like whoever they want to though. Maybe most people on here just don't get what is n isnt real love. I do.
@@barihope It strikes me again and again that Hope fans and Steffy haters of all people always regard their own opinion as a fact. The fact is that nobody knows what the writers around Bell are up to. Plus, Liam and Steffy are far more than "lust stories" (that might apply to all of Brooke's relationships). Rather, it is life, laughter, and adventure. She always understood and supported him. It was about much more than physical love.
Everyone also sees life and thus love differently. There are no "facts" in love. The only right thing to do is to tolerate and accept the way other people live. And that includes love.
Wrong as usual lol. There are set facts for what is n isnt real love. Some 1 who tricks/blackmails some1 into a marriage aka steffy to liam isnt real love. Some 1 who keeps a mom thinking their baby is dead aka thomas to hope isnt real love. It doesn't matter what the writers write or how they try to portray it it will never be real love=fact. Also some1 whose abusive to some1 isnt real love either. So while there are different types of love these general rules do apply in the real world for logical people who understand what is n isnt love.
I wish Hope listened to Donna about Liam and put herself first
Why anyone woman would want Liam is beyond me. He always waffles keeping the other for backup.
Idk.
I dont get why anyone wants bill.
Liam is just a tamer version of Bill.
@Critic Watcher, boom.
Micdrop.
He is Trash.
And I won't lie, I used to be #teamsteam but now, I'm like "team Liam can fall off of a cliff".
@@songriver1232 I can see why people will want bill.
He is powerful, assertive and manly.
lots of women would like that actually.
He can also stay calm (most of the time) in a heated situation.
The other was Stuffy ho who signed up to be the stand by girl easy chair recliner with lies and manipulation.. There is a difference.. Hope never sacrificed her integrity ...Steffy lack morals ..so needy and desperate... She was the one who insinuated herself between Hope and Liam before the dust settle.. Never going out to find a man or her own...she even tried with Oliver who wasn't as hard up...Steffy put Liam in the position of having his cake and icecream. What nan would turn down freebies while separated from his true love. He just blew with the wind behind the manipulation.. No backbone to fight for what he wanted until Wyatt came on the scene .
And then Hope's record is playing again: oh maybe I made a mistake after all. If I snap my finger, Liam will come back. But maybe I'll change my mind again.
Drink Game : Mistake
Yes better leave Steffy and Liam alone, they deserve each other. It's disgusting to watch those two arrogant, insensitive and boring characters. Can they please save us from watching, let they be happy every after and then put them aside and let other people take the stage 🤮🙏
🤣🤣🤣 right
Hope should have listened to Donna. Cause nothing ever changed
I wish Hope listened to do Donna, Stephanie and Thomas instead of Brooke and Katie
in a Logans world only a logan deserves it all
Sadly, after last year, i now know what I have always suspected. Bill was compensating his heart with Katie, then, Brooke, when the true love of his life, was there all along, his Steffy. That's the reason for his shenanigans, with his interference, with Liam & Hope. He was attempting to keep his promise to Steffy, to never abandon her, to always love her. His love for her, was the reason behind all of it. It does not excuse some of his actions, by any means, but, it's true. He tried so hard to let her go & lock away those feelings, but, in the end, he lost. And for that misery & character destruction, of my Bill, I will never forgive Bell for. Very sad indeed. & Now, hes going for a 3rd round with Katie & probably Brooke. Terrible idea, that ends in doom, for all the characters involved. 🤨🧐😢
But Steffy Loves Liam and Liam Loves Steffy !!! Steffy Loves Bill no more !!!
This is a very good analysis
Bill loves katie. Katie taught him HOW to love. Steffy & katie are tough but katie taught him to be calm & rational.
I really like that they are filming on locations rather than sets.
The locations look much better than the sets.
I wonder why they took sooo many years to start doing this regularly on this show?
Well, I guess no one wants all those cameras and crew around their home everyday.
Steffy was not the issue from the beginning Hope... Maybe you need to learn your own past??
A fact. She is her mother's daughter after all. They always have been good at playing the victim.
I agree absolutely, and totally 100% percent that's exactly what hope needs to do first and foremost and what's more it's important to learn from ur past so it can be completely corrected in the future
donna tell Hope what you saw One minute he declares hes loves Hope then he is telling Steffy he loves her
Christina Bonvillian I agree
I am so sick of Hope crying
So do you not watch BNB since 2019 that’s all she does now? Cry!
She lost the man she loved so she has a right to be sad and cry and her brother and family members are lying to her would you say that that was Steffy Forrester😮
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498 always crying
@@victoriaford8449 She did it to herself! How can you be sad when you ended the relationship?
@@anitadawson7766 Yep! That all Hope dose is cry!
Doesn't these people have a jobs how is it that Donna is able to meddle in people's lives. 😒 but I do love the advice she gave to hope
Donna got 10million in her divorce from Eric and the sold Bill her 12.5% of Forrester. She "works" to feel needed.
Donna had it right from the start. She saw how loyal Thomas was to Hope and that's why she brought him up!
Never mind this is 2012! But still no, that couple would suck in 2012! Because it still makes no sense even 11 years! What did those two people have in common? Two completely different people with no chemistry at all in 2013 or 2023! Well at least not good chemistry!
Love these 2 as a couple
Donna was so right!!
Isn't it only Liam in la they don't have any other man than Liam😐
Well Wyatt will come but I know what u guy's mean! Seems like that they haven't got enough money anymore?! Does anyone remember how it was earlier with Brooke? Guy after guy!
Without Eric, Ridge,Thorne she had Conner, James, the policeman, Clarke, Nick, Whip, Decon, the short time guy's like the attorney & more. Same with the women. Sheila, Lauren aso.
the writer is boring this soap needs more amazing man not only the idiot liam and forrester man
Even Katie finally admitted that Bill loved steffy all these years when he gave the foresters share Bill said it out loud that he loves steffy still Katie married him once or twice after
@@mengistusophie But Steffy Love Bill No more to Bad , She Love only Liam with her full ♥️ !!!
I would be so uncomfortable living in that cabin with Liam knowing he slept with my stepsister in it
It's not the only thing Liam did with Steffy first. It would make me uncomfortable knowing how many occasions he shared something with Steffy and then Hope later on.
Right 😂😂😂
Hope was quite comfortable living in Liam's house and sleeping with him knowing that he slept with Steffy in the same bed. She found nothing wrong with that.
good advice from Donna
Felt bad for Hope but it is what it is. Liam fell in love with Steffy. And it wasnt a trick or manipulation..The heart wants what it wants. He genuinely fell in love with Steffy
Exactly! Hope only got him back in 2018 because Steffy slept with Bill!
Nope. Liam in love with hope. What's going on this year is a rewrite n I dont believe in rewrites. Liam hadn't been truly in love with steffy ever. Only loves her n has toxic lust for her. Thats it . Steams an unhealthy n bad relationship n nothing bell does will undo that truth .
@barihope You keep telling yourself that like you do on every single Steam vid. I'm sure someone will believe you
I dont care what anyone or others believe. I know the truth n I'm correct n that's all that matters. Imho.
@barihope You believe what you believe and I'll believe what I believe. Liam and Hope was always constant stress and heartache. If that's "True Love" then I don't want any part of that. I'll keep hoping for my ship. Steffy and Liam forever
Heather Tom is a great actress but she is stuck with an awful character. Katie Logan has no personality and no storylines past “I’m a constantly sick mother and Bill May or may not love me”.
Ikr?! Katies character hasn't evolved much over the years. Katie just doesn't fit with Bill anymore. Neither does Brooke, either. Sure wish they would send a new woman for Bill. No more Logan's, or Forresters. Someone completely new. I like Ashley, from Y&R. With her new ruthless side, she would be an interesting choice for Bill. Yrs ago, she had been on B&B, for a short time & was engaged to Ridge. However, I think it would prolly be a bit awkward, since the actress is one of Don Diamont a exgirlfriends! 🤔🧐
Btw, guys, were u aware that Heather Tom is also one of the directors of B&B?
Rachel Kristine Who cares about a love interest for Bill. Katie needs a new love interest.
My favorite Katie was when she cussed Brooke out before she slept with Bill and when she fell in love with Ridge. Oh yeah, she was cussing Brooke out then too. There seems to be a theme 😂😂😂
If only she invested this much time with her own marriage it might not have saved her so much grief
I can’t believe Donna watch Liam make a baby with Steffy.
Donna watched long enough. 😂😂
He always turn to Steffy when he doesn't get his Way
She told him it was over. He begged her over and over and she told him no. What was he suppose to do? Sulk and Cry everyday at work or his house? No, life moves on. He asked her one last time to give him a chance and she said no so he let her go and gave himself to Steffy
So Steffy is the cool rebound girl😆
The ending gets me everytime🥺
I know me too!!
They certainly know to pick the right songs to make you feel it
i know that katie will be diagnosed later being depressed but you can see how its all building here... soap mums are all happy but katie here is stressing about everything but 'baby will be fine' but also not fighting like she normally would and just wants to rest 💔 i know this is soap but its frustrating that everyone close by isnt seeing that katie is starting to drown 😭💔
Katie keeps harping on what Bill did ... she's been on Bill's case for a few days about it. Sheesh, he gets it .. move on. If that's all she can think about, someone needs to get her a book, or a television with. HULU subscription
And she make the same 2018 with Wyatt , Bill & Brooke !!!
Against the Pregnant Steffy !!!
The Second Time !!!
@Luisa Oelkers the Logan's have to gang up on Steffy. There's not a single one of them who can take Steffy on alone.
Is this when Liam was “trapped” by Steffy? Cause he damn sure look like a willing participant
If you’re Logan fan, yes! But everyone else no!
I'm glad stephy and Liam are back together for ever ha ha hope you lost
Steam when and got Donna all hot and bothered ♨️😂🥛
It is not only funny that Steffy got Liam to herself, but also the fact that they had sex in Brooke's state, in the cabin which years later Hope n Liam start their life there.
Sometimes it hurts to see how stupid Donna is. Did she think about using her mobile phone to check where Hope is, or consider that someone might be at work during the day??? No, instead she runs over the huge property in high heels screaming and searching for Hope...uhh yes, totally normal 🤦♀️
Ditzy Donna is a dope!!!
@@traciepfalz6820 I have told ppl so many times that all Donna has is looks. All Donna offers is sex and nothing else.
Stephanie always told her that back in the day. You're all boobs and no brains.
After watching these episodes, who would even think that Hope and Liam had chemistry. Steffy and Liam are hot, hot, hot. Even now,there is still electricity between them.
The real Hope and Liam had chemistry! Annika is just is bad as an actress she can’t have chemistry with anyone at all!
Donna is a peeping Tom 🤪🤪
She is you know,she was there for a long while too, she got a good look😂😂
Donna enjoying the show 🤣🤣
Liam was just all over hope begging and pleading to take him back and forgive him, she told him go be with steffy and he ran in bed with steffy🤣
Can't say he's not a good listener lol
go on Donna tell Hope you saw Liam with Steffy No they wont tell on their own
Yayy love it
Donna tell her Liam was making love to Steffy and if Donna had stayed around she would have them want each again
Too Bad Steffy End The Relationship Because Of Her Losing The Baby
Yes! What was that for anyway? To make an new love trangle that relaly show how manipulative Hope really is with Liam and Wyatt! Hope made two brothers hate each other that is horrible!
Who should we sacrifice to get steam back 🤔🙄
Hope is beter off whith Thomas .
That's nonsense n rubbish lol. Hopes better off with liam the love of her life her true love n soulmate n baby daddy.
Hope is better off without liam.
@@lisagraham2944 wrong. Hopes best off away from thomas the terrible!
No Hope destroyed men! She destroyed Liam, Wyatt and Thomas in different ways over the years! 2023 proved that beyond an shadow of a doubt!
@@barihope2023?
What's said about Hope her mother made her practice principles that was never hers. Hope was born with no manners or decorum the cheap values of Brooke and Deacon!
So Brooke made her what exactly?
Brooke never made Hope practice these principles. Hope gave herself those so called "principles" cause she was embarrassed and ashamed of her mother's love life and how she was conceived. She was determined to become the exact opposite of her mother but in trying so hard to be different from her mother, she never became her own person and figured out who she really is. It's really sad
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi Hope doesn't get a pass! She's cheap like her mother, sister, and brother. Hope loves to take, take, take from Ridge and Taylor's children.
Hopeless is a little dence for real.
You know you can love Liam and Steffy and still feel bad for Hope! Well at least Kim’s Hope not Annika’s Hope! Who deserve nothing but pain and misery a song as I’m concerned!
Katie is like a dog with a bone and Bill is getting fed up.
Trust me I fast forward all the scenes with them, BELL ruined them, shame.
She is
Liam is the definition of playa ..He doesnt get his way go to the other ..and these ladies are so weak to be in the corner waiting for their turn 🤔
3 round made love #Steam are the Powercouple !!!
I waited for this 4 sooo long...
Liam and steffy together as lovers and loving couple..
Steam lives on and on and on in b +b
Donna should have told hope the truth about seeing Liam and Steffy at the cabin making love
Hope Logan is miserable right now and Donna could have ended all that so what if you saw them you should have burst in there and been more determined to get your niece back with the man she loves Steffy was so willing to open her legs she don't realize that she is just like Brooke Forrester
Hope should have listened to auntie Donna put herself first
Donna, the peeping Donna
Stop Being Gross! It’s just creepy you and other people believe that! Also, what you said makes no sense as an sentence or an statement!
I love Donna and hope conversation.. aunty and niece # loganFamily
Donna the sage.
So he's only with Steffy because Hope dumped him. why does steffy always have to be second best!!
Steffy pursued Liam knowing how much he loved Hope. He was with Hope for a whole year before Steffy got in the picture. So Steffy knew how hard it would be to win Liam's heart but she was willing to do whatever it takes cause she fell in love with him. That's what driving all these characters to do the crazy things they do: Love
Why do they go to the cabin on Brooke's property?
The same Liam and same Steffy this whole time....
But Steffy deserve better!!!!!
Is this cabin on brookes property? Im so confused as to the location. Of this place. If it is on brookes property, why wo ou ld they choose that place to get away from hope?
@Christina Bonvillian wrong Brooke bought that house from Stephanie
Yes STEAM'S CABIN is on the property that RIDGE gave to Brooken when he lost Taylor and he thought she was gonna be with Thorne and her new baby(Thomas). So instead of moving into an empty huge house ALL ALONE he gave it to Brook4n who was previously living in a condo and her sisters and her kids by Eric needed a larger space. But the property was FORRESTER's property just like the beach house that Wyatt is now living in. In fact the only house that didn't start out as a Forrester house is now STEFFY'S CLIFFHOUSE. LOL🤣🤣🤣🤣IRONIC RIGHT!
@@neeshaanthony7346 wrong
Ridge bought that house for him and brooke.
@@UrGworlCanCan wrong.
Brooke has been in this home.
For decades
This is the home ridge bought when him and brooke got married the first time.
Ridge has never been In that home without broooke.
Through all the breakups. Brooke has lived in this home.
With bridgette and Rick when they were kids to when they left the nest.
The only time brooke did not live in the house is when she went to live with ridge and his kids.
But I assume this place was always in her name
Because when ridge married taylor at Stephanie's bed side.
Brooke took rj and hope and moved back to this home
And she told ridge she would never leave this home again.
It was always bridge property
Never exclusively forrester property
Steffy said she used to come to this cabin when she was living with Brooke. Its pretty creepy that she is still sneaking onto Brookes property.
I miss this hope she was so pretty 💖
Me too
HOPE belongs to Thomas
Nope! Hope belongs to liam.
See Hope is,right about Liam
Need fix close caption!
Liam doesn't know who he wants to be with hope and steffy
All i want is that hope will move on whith thout Liam just put Thomas and hope to gether pleas just do that
Please don't! No to toxic thope!
Lmfao go Steffy
Simple fix for Katie..she should have given Bill a date to tell Liam the truth or he couldn't see Will until he did.
Parental alienation hey?
Would you say the same if Taylor was married to Bill and had just had a baby? Or if Steffy was? Or would they be "selfish" and "doing the wrong thing"?
Yeah....
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SONG AT THE END?!??!?!?
I'm pretty sure this is Scott Clifton's song, the actor who plays Liam, this was the 1st song he wrote and sang for B&B
Donna should have told Hope the truth
Yes but she is an Logan! Honestly, it’s not really in their DNA!
Steffi did that on purpose cause when the truth comes out Steffi knew Liam was going back to Hope and she had to be fight not fair
I mean it work!
Idk rigde is hot
HECK NO
Liam is so fickle
Really! His mom died. He clearly has commitment issues. how do I understand that but you don’t? Liam is an man who has been through so much by Hope and Steffy it amazing the guy hasn’t dumped both of them and never came back!
Donna's wrong. Liam and Hope belong together!
This show is a mess. It doesn't make any sense. I can see why people want Steffy and Liam together because they're all about sex, with Hope we didn't get to see they're wedding night. They did it on purpose, because they want to show how different this relationship are, but for what purpose really? I profoundly dislike this couple, I really loathe both. Liam weakness and inconsistency and Steffy lack of decency or dignity and self respect. I hate they're messing with Hope over and over. She is flawed but man get a grip, how much someone can take? Liam is so not worth it and he lies there with Steffy telling her he's happy while 2 minutes before he declared his love and loyalty to another woman. It's unbearable who does that in real life? Steffy will suffer again and it's all on her. Whe should stop watching this silly crap.
i agreed with you liam is not a good man he is a waffle the woman blind
Exactly. Watching this I can't understand why on earth Steffy wants a guy who is clearly still in love, and has always been, with Hope. She just wants him because he waffles and that's easy for her to manipulate. Yet, she seems to be okay being the rebound girl. At least Hope has standards and doesn't want to put up with his immature BS... too bad she hasn't stood more firmly in them.
They also allowed Hope to sleep with Liam whims he was still married multiple times!! It doesn’t matter if he filed for divorce! It was still adulterous so yes it does say a lot about precious Hope! She’s no better than Steffy!
What he has with steffy is a very deep friendship and connection he can't let her go
Honestly, BOTH Steffy and Hope are downright GORGEOUS! They're successful and could have ANYONE.
What is so special about Liam? He's trash! Treats them both horribly. Gaslights them both. Plays them against one another. All because he loves the adoration he gets.
They should both move on.
Liam belongs with Hope! Steffy belongs wherever with whomever
U r correct.
@@barihope2023 still feel the same way?
@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498 yes and always for lope and sinn.
@@barihope Really? You still feel that way? After everything Hope did in 2023! How?
This is a fake tv show. I don't write it so I don't expect everything to be perfect lol. Just because a writer ends a couple doesn't change my mind about a couple I really like. Luke n Laura daytime greatest couple ended. Does that mean we all have to stop liking them? I say no. I will stick by my couples regardless what writers do.
Steffy and Liam had the nerve to have sex on Brooke property
And her father's.
@@kimberlygould8293 That is Brooke’s house
3 times lol
He father bought the house for his kids . Brooke lives there but it's a Forester property.
Liam and hope belong together as they are true love and soulmates. Steam never did or will belong together as they are toxic lust. Real facts are liam and hope belong together!
@Christina Bonvillian so true
As a Steffy fan, you Lope fans are welcome to him. He's literally the worst and I think Hope deserves better as well. But if you insist you want him... 🤷♀️
They r the most boring two people I ever seen on this show. Wasting film time on these two for real. Were is the happiness the chemistry the laughter even the Love I don't see none of that like u Hopeless fans say they look more like brother and sister wasteful sorry but boring boring and boring. Turn the station when I see them u can tell Hopeless just want a man their that is it I don't see nothing else. The way him and Steffy chemistry is its like WOW!!! everyone knows that even the Hopeless fan seen it.
2022 and Hope and Liam still winning most boring couple on Daytime per Soap Opera Digest. Sad that Liam is now made into a lap dog for Hope. They ruined him by sticking him with Hope and ruining any good fun he had on the show.
@@kimberlygould8293 I don't care what the magazines or fans say lope is a great couple. And most boring couple is gh Michael n willow a total snoozefest n ynr billy n lily not far behind.
Fun and sex. That s all, and only what Steam is about
I don't agree liam said himself steffy is his best friend as they talk about everything. They have passion and true love. Don't you this your partner should be your best friend
Occhi. I agree. They are toxic lust steam and have no real connection. Liam and hope are true love and soulmates.
@@merissathaver7436I agree with that! If I was to love an women I would first want to be her friend! Because if we can’t be friends what really chance do we have as an couple? That the big difference between Hope and Liam and Liam and Steffy! One is is a romance of stupidity at times! One is an love story, they took two years to come true!
@@barihope2023 you still feel the same way?