Wow. Well done gentlemen. That was perhaps the most meta way to explain post-modernism ever. If you think the books discussed in the second half of the show are examplars of post modern thought, I would argue that they pale in comparison to the experience of having said books explained to you 1) having never read them and 2) only the faintest notion of what post-modernism is. A true master class.
I always listen to this on Spotify. But once I heard Fr Bonaventure mention puppets, I had to come on RUclips to see if he really had puppets! I am only disappointed that they are finger puppets and not full-hand puppets.
Fr. Bonaventure, Richard Nixon did not start US military involvement in Vietnam: material support to the French started under Eisenhower; military advisors and special forces teams were committed by Kennedy; and Johnson sent in large numbers of combat units in late 1964. Nixon was elected to a first term in 1968. Protests against the draft fueled by Marxists in the SDS, Weathermen, etc was the beginning of the end for higher education in the US and a true blossoming of post modernism going mainstream.
Yes, I would love to her about Wolfe as well. I heard about him through my R.A. Lafferty friends. I did try reading The Fifth Head Of Cerberus. I admit that I probably need to reread it. Sometimes I have to go through a book more than once.
@@solovief I've found a very good podcast episode about Wolfe and his works on the Catholic Culture channel. I'd recommend you to check that one out. It's called "77 Gene Wolfe, Catholic SciFi Legend - Sandra Miesel, Fr. Brendon Laroche | Catholic Culture Podcast".
I love your discussions on literature? Have any of you read R.A. Lafferty, John Kennedy Toole or Flann O'Brien? Just curious. I'm more a fan of Lafferty's short stories, but his novel Past Master has moments that remind me Flannery O'Connor's Wise Blood. Toole's A Confederacy Of Dunces still baffles me at times. I wonder if other Catholics have read it. And I struggle with At Swim Two Birds by O'Brien. Maybe I need to reread it. Sorry for so many questions. Would either of you point to any modern novelists who are writing from an orthodox Catholic perspective without being directly religious in their subject matter?
I am going back to the 19th century. How could Turgenev believe that nothing is the answer. Fathers And Sons l thought was tongue in cheek humor. This is dangerous we are responsible for searching for the truth.
Up to 17:38 = no! Where do this guy got that idea? If you read derrida's le voix et la phenomene, which was based on husserl's phenomenology, derrida argued that a word always represents either an expression or an indication. However both expression and indication are signs. Signs are always interpreted and there is no such thing as a universal object which is represented by a sign since everyone has their own experience how they learn that word. Maybe it doesnt matter so much for things like nose, or ear, but for abstract words like justice, love, truth, etc. Then the autoaffected "meaning" which pops up in someone's head when hearing those words are not always the same. Just see politics!
Comment on presentation from up 5:30 = that is a very uninformed and myth based idea about postmodernism which usually attributed to jordan peterson. The metanarative theory and discourse theory are just a few examples of approaches in postmodernism. Postmodernism is an approach in literary analysis which includes hostorical literature. It tries to read texts in contexts. There are literary, historical, theological, ideological, and of course others contexts. A text cannot have a universal context since it was written by somebode for someone else (it has a theme and purpose) but in its interpretation could be applied to any kind of purpose. The point of postmodernism is to reconstruct the best possible context to find the original meaning (purpose) of a text through critical meaning.
Conclusion: this is a very ignorant and uninformative conversations of people who were stuck in middle ages scholastic way of thinking trying to navigate in contemporary idea. The reason why thomas aquinas said that "its not that something is beautiful because we like it, and but we like it because it is beautiful" is because thomas aquinas never saw tic toc.
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Wow. Well done gentlemen. That was perhaps the most meta way to explain post-modernism ever. If you think the books discussed in the second half of the show are examplars of post modern thought, I would argue that they pale in comparison to the experience of having said books explained to you 1) having never read them and 2) only the faintest notion of what post-modernism is. A true master class.
Great episode, thanks fathers
Didn't really understand anything fr bonaventure was saying but was still cracking up along with fr gregory 🤓
Thank you for previous recommendation of Rumer Godden.
I always listen to this on Spotify. But once I heard Fr Bonaventure mention puppets, I had to come on RUclips to see if he really had puppets! I am only disappointed that they are finger puppets and not full-hand puppets.
Fr. Bonaventure, Richard Nixon did not start US military involvement in Vietnam: material support to the French started under Eisenhower; military advisors and special forces teams were committed by Kennedy; and Johnson sent in large numbers of combat units in late 1964. Nixon was elected to a first term in 1968. Protests against the draft fueled by Marxists in the SDS, Weathermen, etc was the beginning of the end for higher education in the US and a true blossoming of post modernism going mainstream.
This ☝️. Absolutely.
Have you read any of the works of Catholic author Gene Wolfe and if so, would you consider making him the topic of one of these episodes?
Yes, I would love to her about Wolfe as well. I heard about him through my R.A. Lafferty friends. I did try reading The Fifth Head Of Cerberus. I admit that I probably need to reread it. Sometimes I have to go through a book more than once.
@@solovief I've found a very good podcast episode about Wolfe and his works on the Catholic Culture channel. I'd recommend you to check that one out. It's called "77 Gene Wolfe, Catholic SciFi Legend - Sandra Miesel, Fr. Brendon Laroche | Catholic Culture Podcast".
@@kircheis186 Thank you so much.
I love your discussions on literature? Have any of you read R.A. Lafferty, John Kennedy Toole or Flann O'Brien? Just curious. I'm more a fan of Lafferty's short stories, but his novel Past Master has moments that remind me Flannery O'Connor's Wise Blood. Toole's A Confederacy Of Dunces still baffles me at times. I wonder if other Catholics have read it. And I struggle with At Swim Two Birds by O'Brien. Maybe I need to reread it. Sorry for so many questions. Would either of you point to any modern novelists who are writing from an orthodox Catholic perspective without being directly religious in their subject matter?
I want you guys to read Lincoln in the Bardo and make a video about it. I’ve read it and want so badly to get some Catholic commentary on it.
Schonberg not brun
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Did you say while tone with respect to atonal music? that might be a howler.
Vietnam was a JFK/LBJ war.
I am going back to the 19th century. How could Turgenev believe that nothing is the answer. Fathers And Sons l thought was tongue in cheek humor. This is dangerous we are responsible for searching for the truth.
Up to 17:38 = no! Where do this guy got that idea? If you read derrida's le voix et la phenomene, which was based on husserl's phenomenology, derrida argued that a word always represents either an expression or an indication. However both expression and indication are signs. Signs are always interpreted and there is no such thing as a universal object which is represented by a sign since everyone has their own experience how they learn that word. Maybe it doesnt matter so much for things like nose, or ear, but for abstract words like justice, love, truth, etc. Then the autoaffected "meaning" which pops up in someone's head when hearing those words are not always the same. Just see politics!
Comment on presentation from up 5:30 = that is a very uninformed and myth based idea about postmodernism which usually attributed to jordan peterson. The metanarative theory and discourse theory are just a few examples of approaches in postmodernism. Postmodernism is an approach in literary analysis which includes hostorical literature. It tries to read texts in contexts. There are literary, historical, theological, ideological, and of course others contexts. A text cannot have a universal context since it was written by somebode for someone else (it has a theme and purpose) but in its interpretation could be applied to any kind of purpose. The point of postmodernism is to reconstruct the best possible context to find the original meaning (purpose) of a text through critical meaning.
Conclusion: this is a very ignorant and uninformative conversations of people who were stuck in middle ages scholastic way of thinking trying to navigate in contemporary idea. The reason why thomas aquinas said that "its not that something is beautiful because we like it, and but we like it because it is beautiful" is because thomas aquinas never saw tic toc.
@ThatMuslimDude its only ugly to you. Essentialist claims of reality is what responsible for fanatism and discord in the world.