Sonic X Shadow Generations References

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @BirdieSenpai
    @BirdieSenpai Месяц назад +482

    As an ancient Sonic fan, I grinned so hard at the Time Stones reference.

    • @RedPineap
      @RedPineap Месяц назад +41

      they should give the time stones an actual use, like a form or a way to time travel

    • @Elitze_Real
      @Elitze_Real Месяц назад +10

      same lol

    • @DirtyDeeDavid
      @DirtyDeeDavid Месяц назад +19

      Fr, hearing that gave me the biggest smile ever

    • @TTGLsecondchannel
      @TTGLsecondchannel Месяц назад +13

      I'm 14 and I know Sonic facts but I am dumb as hell in Math

    • @bluephoenix_z3364
      @bluephoenix_z3364 Месяц назад +3

      I hoping we'll see them again eventually. Imagine a Time Sonic form and after transforming back into base Sonic again he'll gain a new time related ability due to interacting with their energy.

  • @Sonic_memer10
    @Sonic_memer10 Месяц назад +202

    I must say that was an impressive speed run of the Sonic CD special stage

  • @classiff1ed
    @classiff1ed Месяц назад +167

    2:37. All I’m saying is a movie crowd would erupt if we get this shot in the third Sonic movie

    • @ccelite3782
      @ccelite3782 Месяц назад +10

      I legitimately would scream

    • @blue-flare7060
      @blue-flare7060 Месяц назад +2

      @@ccelite3782same

    • @NeoNovastar
      @NeoNovastar Месяц назад +2

      I DIDNT EVEN THINK OF THE POSSIBILITY BUT YOU'RE SO RIGHT

    • @VasishthaSookraj
      @VasishthaSookraj Месяц назад +3

      I legit thought the exact same thing. And they haven’t show that shot in any trailer yet either (at least as of me writing this comment). I can actually see people making noise when that happens. And just to be clear, there is absolutely no way they’re not doing that shot. If there’s any Sonic and Shadow pose they would do in a Sonic movie, it’s that one 100%.

    • @unnamed9482
      @unnamed9482 Месяц назад +2

      @@ccelite3782same but without the s

  • @gameomer1855
    @gameomer1855 Месяц назад +50

    1:03 The pose that Sonic makes is a reference to Sonic's continue animation from Sonic Mania
    • While Sonic and Shadow fight we can see those anti-gravity block platforms which can only be found in Crazy Gadget from Sonic Adventure 2
    • Fly in the Freedom plays after Sonic "defeats" Shadow and when Rouge finds him

  • @merimkastrat5846
    @merimkastrat5846 Месяц назад +107

    Shadow also does a back pose in the result screen, just like he did in Sonic 06.

  • @baconjester7077
    @baconjester7077 Месяц назад +71

    7:46 bro that line is legendary after so many years the time stones and thust little planet are finally mentioned in modern sonic

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon Месяц назад +7

      Metal Sonic was fought on Stardust Speedway Bad Future in Generations and if you take it further, Episode Metal of Sonic 4 features Metal's defeated body being fixed up by Eggman.

    • @baconjester7077
      @baconjester7077 Месяц назад +1

      @ I know, I know but still it’s not implied, like with stardust speedway and classic metal sonic, they straight up out and say the time stones, which no matter how many times we see Stardust speedway will never compare with the stones being actually mentioned for the first time sense sonic cd or origins if you really want to be technical

    • @MicklePickle
      @MicklePickle 4 дня назад

      bro sonic doesn’t travel with those stones the line feels unnatural and makes no sense because that’s not something that’d be on sonics mind cause he can time travel without them and generally alter time with stuff like chaos control

    • @baconjester7077
      @baconjester7077 3 дня назад

      @MicklePickle I wouldn’t say feels unnatural and the times stones do play a part in it sure the past and future post is how sonic time travel in the game but that is the time stones power

  • @Sholver
    @Sholver Месяц назад +23

    Same for Mephiles saying « you don’t remember Shadow? » because the flame was lit off

  • @pirajacinto4
    @pirajacinto4 Месяц назад +17

    I appreciate you mostly focused on the new stuff from Sonic X Generations, saving for the Genie and Park references being in the original game too. Though I also kind of wanted you to show the SA2 pose reference and set up also being a reference to Sonic Generations as well XD But the pull from Route 99 is AWESOME!

  • @bellarosa_
    @bellarosa_ Месяц назад +14

    Missed one from Shadow Generations: When Shadow talks to Black Doom for the first time (after defeating Biolizard), Shadow turns and walks away before Doom's Eye appears and makes him turn back around. The movements are the exact same as the Shadow 2005 CGI before entering Westopolis.

  • @joshuaehizokhale9622
    @joshuaehizokhale9622 Месяц назад +45

    7:45 bro went to revisit sonic CD special stages to complete the story of sonic generations☠️💀

  • @SmilingMountainLandscape-gh6oh
    @SmilingMountainLandscape-gh6oh Месяц назад +62

    Since in that game “he says the rules seem different this time around “ referencing secret rings

  • @noahlawlor808
    @noahlawlor808 Месяц назад +26

    0:26 those are exact same words he said when sonic and shadow first met in sonic adventure 2 from 2001

  • @RobertTheFoxxo
    @RobertTheFoxxo Месяц назад +5

    I never noticed the doom wing had that special jump animation, but the instant that squash and mostly stretch appeared here, I knew exactly where that came from. What a fun reference!

  • @Plurbi
    @Plurbi Месяц назад +62

    you forgot one. i’m pretty sure that character sonic is from the hit game sonic the hedgehog from 1991. fact check me if im wrong

  • @SkibidiSigmaONLYINOHIO12
    @SkibidiSigmaONLYINOHIO12 Месяц назад +18

    This is Fax! Bro! And I just got here on 44 minutes ago, dang bro, I'm so luckeh! 😎

  • @jaysykes2590
    @jaysykes2590 Месяц назад +3

    This reference is pretty subtle but when Amy reminded Shadow of Maria’s real final wish in SA2, a tear fell from Shadow’s left eye and now all these years later when he said goodbye to Maria and Gerald again, a tear fell from the same eye and falls on Rouge’s face.

  • @Shadowofzero
    @Shadowofzero 12 дней назад +1

    Man, Sonic used to be SO COOL. And effortlessly so. I’m glad they’re moving back in that direction

  • @tailsfrontiers1224
    @tailsfrontiers1224 Месяц назад +3

    5:00 the moment I seen this jump in the game I instantly got nostalgic and remembered where this jump came from lol that was a great callback imo

  • @doctorawesomeness6922
    @doctorawesomeness6922 Месяц назад +31

    0:27 You know Sonic's name, Shadow.

    • @TimurSokol
      @TimurSokol Месяц назад +7

      He probably made this joke because they travel trough past so it's ironic

    • @Supersonic-ll1ie
      @Supersonic-ll1ie Месяц назад +4

      Clearly he doesn’t understand sonic and shadow lol

    • @Sholver
      @Sholver Месяц назад +4

      That blue haired liberal… of all places

    • @noahlawlor808
      @noahlawlor808 Месяц назад

      @@doctorawesomeness6922 of course they met ever since sonic adventure 2 from 2001

  • @Sonic_Boom_Channle
    @Sonic_Boom_Channle Месяц назад +6

    Nice Video
    Thanks❤

  • @SmilingMountainLandscape-gh6oh
    @SmilingMountainLandscape-gh6oh Месяц назад +38

    That makes black knight canon

    • @Sonikkuben
      @Sonikkuben Месяц назад +19

      But Black Knight is canon, Sonic mentions the storybook series in original generations

    • @moonlightact1792
      @moonlightact1792 Месяц назад +8

      @@Sonikkuben there's also the argument he made all that up so he had an excuse to be late at amy's date

    • @Legendary_Fard1247
      @Legendary_Fard1247 Месяц назад +2

      ⁠@@moonlightact1792what date? Weren’t they at Sonic’s birthday? And plus, they were trapped in white space (yes that’s what I’m gonna call it) when he said that.

    • @reylimichel8023
      @reylimichel8023 Месяц назад +6

      @@Legendary_Fard1247in the final scene of black knight, Sonic is telling the game’s story and just wasted time to avoid a date with Amy

    • @Legendary_Fard1247
      @Legendary_Fard1247 Месяц назад +1

      @@reylimichel8023 Oooh, they meant in black knight, whoops I thought they meant generations lol

  • @VasishthaSookraj
    @VasishthaSookraj Месяц назад +1

    Awesome video bro! For as long as I played the game, I didn’t even pay attention to the jump animation with the Doom Wings, but the second you showed it off, I recognized the animation reference immediately and I was shocked. Sort of on the same topic, but it’s kinda interesting how they referenced Shadow the Hedgehog (The Game) so much in Gens but they never took a stage from there. Seeing the work they did on something like Kingdom Valley, I’d loved to have seen a Shadow the Hedgehog (The Game) stage given the same treatment. No clue what they would’ve replaced to get it in there. Maybe Chaos Island but what stage would work there? Or maybe they could’ve swapped out Radical Highway for Westopolis (they’re roughly the same vibes), but idk. 😅

  • @Zomboy4313
    @Zomboy4313 Месяц назад +2

    I like Sonic and Shadows poses in Shadow Generations since Sonic actually looks like he’s running instead of both of them putting their hands up like some sort of dog

  • @Sonic10Forces
    @Sonic10Forces Месяц назад +2

    Sega really like to keep on giving that SA2 shot of Sonic and Shadow. First SA2 battle, Sonic Generations, SXSG (Shadow Generations) and even the movie part in Sonic Central

  • @ParsaAbouata-gj3qx
    @ParsaAbouata-gj3qx Месяц назад +50

    Title:sonic x sonic generations😅😅

  • @lilsoonerfaninmo
    @lilsoonerfaninmo Месяц назад +5

    All this does is just make me ask 2 questions
    How does Sonic just not see what Shadows up to if its just a hop and a skip away between the two White Spaces?
    And what has Silver been doing, since this carries the implications that Rival Bosses aren't just sitting on their hands

  • @ssmarticlesx
    @ssmarticlesx Месяц назад +1

    i ran out of my bf’s room screaming in joy seeing the sonic adventure 2 pose, the child in me was alive again

  • @RobertTheFoxxo
    @RobertTheFoxxo Месяц назад

    That transition between the Generations cutscene and the special stage was extremely clever

  • @Abandoned2377
    @Abandoned2377 Месяц назад +7

    Ian flynn bless you and youre good writing

  • @vickybruh7412
    @vickybruh7412 Месяц назад +1

    Seeing the comparison with the animation. Its so hard to even think about people being ok with the poopy animation if the old games

  • @LorcanGallagher-q2v
    @LorcanGallagher-q2v Месяц назад +6

    6:34 so what ive noticed is that the mouth movements no longer match the dialogue so that confirms that they were lazy to change the animation

    • @AAlex-wg8ml
      @AAlex-wg8ml Месяц назад +5

      No, the cutscenes were pre rendered. Therefore, they couldn't change the animation without putting in lots of effort.
      Remember this game has around 2 years in development, so Id rather they put that effort into Shadow Generations

    • @LorcanGallagher-q2v
      @LorcanGallagher-q2v Месяц назад +2

      @@AAlex-wg8ml oh i didnt know that so thank you for telling me

    • @WindyREDPanda
      @WindyREDPanda Месяц назад +1

      Play the game in Japanese and its syncs better

    • @deadturret4049
      @deadturret4049 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@AAlex-wg8mlexcept for all the cutscenes they did change. Some of remake shots have totally new camera angles.

    • @AAlex-wg8ml
      @AAlex-wg8ml Месяц назад +1

      @@deadturret4049 I mean, you're not wrong
      But all they had to do was shift the camera. The animations, minus the mouth movements, are still the same
      It is still the same cutscenes, cut a different view

  • @jaydenwilliams7868
    @jaydenwilliams7868 Месяц назад +30

    Doom wings are is like a super form for shadow in a way

    • @Fantastical_Stop_Motions
      @Fantastical_Stop_Motions Месяц назад +6

      Shadow has a super form

    • @carhidu_8905
      @carhidu_8905 Месяц назад +7

      Yeah but how it works in the game, i would say doom wings are equally as powerful as Super Shadow or maybe it's less weaker to it super form

    • @GenerationZ313
      @GenerationZ313 Месяц назад +2

      It does suck we don't get to see Super Shadow since we haven't seen that form since 2005 but then again the Sonic Storybook games didn't have Super Sonic in favor of alternative forms so I guess it's not unprecedented.

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Месяц назад +1

      Super form without a Super form.

    • @Fantastical_Stop_Motions
      @Fantastical_Stop_Motions Месяц назад +2

      @@GenerationZ313 yeah

  • @BigDnotimpressed
    @BigDnotimpressed 21 день назад

    Also the cutscene with Black Doom after defeating Biolizard had borrowed animations from his first scene in Shadow the Hedgehog. Also some tracks were reused from that and it worked beautifully.

  • @johnvicaireiii5537
    @johnvicaireiii5537 Месяц назад +1

    I think it's weird that in the game the two sonics are interpteted as older and younger, yes there's a modern and classic, but in actuality, it's two difference sonics, and there supposed to be roughly the same age. Although you could say modern sonic has aged more as more games featuring the modern version came out. I like to think of them as alternate universes.

  • @susiehaltmann3342
    @susiehaltmann3342 Месяц назад +2

    6:09 So we just not gonna question why the actual Nintendo DS startup sound is randomly in this game? (This was in the original as well btw)

    • @Sholver
      @Sholver Месяц назад +1

      THANK YOU SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon Месяц назад +5

      It's not the DS startup sound. It may sound similar but that little beep is in all of the Classic games and is used to denote an extended period of time underwater.
      It's basically a gentle warning that you're running out of air.

    • @Naito9874
      @Naito9874 Месяц назад

      ​@@CrystalGreymon in a bunch of modern games too iirc

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon Месяц назад

      @@Naito9874 Yeah, Generations has it more prominently than the classics do for example.

  • @LucarioShirona
    @LucarioShirona Месяц назад

    I have notice people say about how the Fake Chaos Emerald is still around despite apparently to have exploded. I guess Ian Flynn applied the “Never found the body” to the fake emerald since we never actually see it blew up on screen in SA2.

  • @TheKingOfLoveOfficial
    @TheKingOfLoveOfficial Месяц назад +1

    In the generations remaster, they could have gave sonic a boost similar to his boost in the shadow generations part. And his most current model too

  • @Shiro-pm8uv
    @Shiro-pm8uv Месяц назад +8

    When they cross paths in the older game, for some reason, it just looks better, more expressive 💙🖤

  • @BiolizardthePrototype
    @BiolizardthePrototype Месяц назад +5

    I’m pretty sure the entire game is references

  • @SpecialFunWorld
    @SpecialFunWorld Месяц назад +3

    Awesome video! :D ✨

  • @DarkJstrike57
    @DarkJstrike57 Месяц назад

    I don't know if it's just me but I feel as if the music in the White Void Open hub world in Shadow's Campaign is a more slow, eerie and dark toned version of "All hail shadow" basically Shadow's Hero Theme from Shadow the Hedgehog and well a song from Shadow's Campaign as well

  • @damacattack8434
    @damacattack8434 Месяц назад

    Ian Flynn understood the assignment.

  • @TheShiningEnergy
    @TheShiningEnergy Месяц назад

    0:24 if only they got Ryan Drummond to voice that line. that would have been awesome. Alas, Sega had to do him dirty after Sonic Heroes

  • @liamphibia
    @liamphibia Месяц назад +2

    We love some sweet callbacks.

  • @fatimarizvi3564
    @fatimarizvi3564 Месяц назад

    what happened to the death egg robot music its from sonic 2 classic death egg zone

  • @willberto6969
    @willberto6969 Месяц назад +34

    I miss when references didn’t feel so forced

    • @WindyREDPanda
      @WindyREDPanda Месяц назад +11

      Not reference its History.

    • @Negawisp
      @Negawisp Месяц назад +4

      Indeed they are! Information from most of the refferences in redone sonic generations dialogues is absolutely irrelevant. And the pretence of some kind of continuety between games feels SO forced as well

    • @jaecasino7048
      @jaecasino7048 Месяц назад +15

      Ahhh yes. Hating references in the *looks at script" updates port of the 20th anniversary game whose plot is explicitly about revisiting the past of the franchisr

    • @Sholver
      @Sholver Месяц назад +12

      Tbh this game is fanservice so yea

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon Месяц назад +5

      Referencing literally of the pre-battle Dialogue between Sonic and Shadow in one cutscene almost entirely verbatim?
      Yeah, definitely forced.
      The Time Stones bit felt a little forced but most others are far better handled.

  • @matthewisguy7336
    @matthewisguy7336 Месяц назад

    8:38 Dang! The sonic origin blue sphere sprite?

  • @yamandoesstuff9755
    @yamandoesstuff9755 Месяц назад

    call ians writing trash all you want, i think the references here are sprinkled in nicely.

  • @vasyangamer2232
    @vasyangamer2232 Месяц назад

    Hidden chao was appeared in Sonic rivals series too

  • @protokiri9571
    @protokiri9571 23 дня назад

    6:40 THEY DID NOT JUST PUT AN OVA REFERENCE OUT OF NOWHERE WITH "South Island"

  • @Donatas-rp5yf
    @Donatas-rp5yf Месяц назад +1

    More sonic reference😊

  • @Sonicspeed4126
    @Sonicspeed4126 Месяц назад +3

    Wow😮😮😮

  • @Pau31076
    @Pau31076 Месяц назад +1

    Arent the lost chao a reference to those sa2 missions?

    • @MichaelSerrano-sk1vq
      @MichaelSerrano-sk1vq Месяц назад

      They're also a reference to that, but the multiple chao throughout the stage is a reference to a requirement to the true ending of Sonic advance 3 (Also known as the key to the special stage in that game)

  • @Kojin1104
    @Kojin1104 Месяц назад

    Unpopular opinion maybe but I like the darker shade of blue on Sonic.

  • @danielgamer4life
    @danielgamer4life Месяц назад +1

    you forgot to include "south island" from sonic OVA

    • @AquelePequenoNiVy
      @AquelePequenoNiVy Месяц назад

      Nah, south island is where Green Hill is, it's in every game that has Green Hill in It.

  • @Coolio_Ash
    @Coolio_Ash 25 дней назад

    I wish he said "i found you faker" and also "ill make you eat those words" but hey cant win em all

  • @JaxsonRives-g9j
    @JaxsonRives-g9j Месяц назад +4

    Same references

  • @notaadamritm
    @notaadamritm Месяц назад +1

    Times Stones geçişi biraz komikti

  • @highcaliburx3751
    @highcaliburx3751 Месяц назад

    I was honestly hoping for a boss fight with Sonic

  • @cool_guy_1.e4071
    @cool_guy_1.e4071 Месяц назад +1

    His quills was longer

  • @GenesisAdhyan671
    @GenesisAdhyan671 Месяц назад +1

    Cool

  • @XaraHollowKnight
    @XaraHollowKnight 14 дней назад

    1:19 No Tails, that's Shadow.

  • @crimsonhunterzero3174
    @crimsonhunterzero3174 Месяц назад

    6:39: Hearing Tails mention South Island both surprised and confused me for the simple fact that Tails never been to South Island, which is where the first Sonic Game takes place on. Having Tails say "Not to me" in the original script when Sonic asked him did the place look awfully familiar made more sense because as stated before, Tails has never gone to South Island let alone was involved in the events.

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon Месяц назад

      Okay, but the Classic characters are their younger selves and Mania happened to the Classic characters.

    • @bellarosa_
      @bellarosa_ Месяц назад +1

      Green Hill is on South Island, and Tails has been to Green Hill before.

    • @crimsonhunterzero3174
      @crimsonhunterzero3174 Месяц назад

      @@CrystalGreymon Generations came out before Mania not the other way around

    • @crimsonhunterzero3174
      @crimsonhunterzero3174 Месяц назад

      @@bellarosa_ if you're referring to Mania and Forces, Generations came out before those games did.

    • @bellarosa_
      @bellarosa_ Месяц назад

      ​@@crimsonhunterzero3174 Sonic Chaos is when Tails visited a roboticized version of Green Hill, Sonic Drift uses Green Hill as a racetrack, Tails visits Green Hill in Sonic Jam (although that's a compilation game so it could be considered non-canon), Green Hill is a stage in Sonic Battle (as a bonus for beating the game, potentially non-canon), and Classic Tails is literally there in the Generations plot to see Green Hill.
      So, Tails has been to Green Hill before.

  • @Jdh9938
    @Jdh9938 Месяц назад +1

    Sonic x sonic generations

  • @Xxblade17
    @Xxblade17 Месяц назад

    Yessir

  • @GamingKingdom91
    @GamingKingdom91 Месяц назад

    Terios..isnt a reference...hes shadows beta design..
    I gues..maybe..you could say hes a referance..but imho hes really not :T

  • @God-ob8pe
    @God-ob8pe Месяц назад

    Title: sonic x sonic generations💀

  • @audriella2408
    @audriella2408 Месяц назад

    SHE IS NO LONGER MOTHER

  • @GuilherminaDacosta-k4w
    @GuilherminaDacosta-k4w Месяц назад

    Musica legal

  • @CarlosBwalya-v3h
    @CarlosBwalya-v3h Месяц назад

    Sonic X sonic

  • @josuecolinanco1746
    @josuecolinanco1746 Месяц назад +3

    I found You FAKER 👹

    • @GamingKingdom91
      @GamingKingdom91 Месяц назад

      That blue hedgehog again,of all places...