How to balance a zoom lens on a gimbal | 24-70 2.8 and the Weebill S

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  • @hoangpham
    @hoangpham  3 года назад +8

    Hope this guide helped you! I made an updated video going into more details on balancing this gimbal and answering some of the questions here. Check it out on my channel!

  • @Aubron
    @Aubron 2 года назад +1

    Thank you! This was exactly what I needed.

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      So glad it was helpful!

  • @RangerRickTV
    @RangerRickTV 3 года назад

    I like how this gimbal lets you access the battery compartment without taking off the camera.

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад +1

      It's funny because where mine is balanced I can open the battery compartment but there isn't enough clearance to take the battery fully out. You're lucky if you can do that!

  • @VinayakGuptaYT
    @VinayakGuptaYT 8 месяцев назад

    Can you make a video on how the balance the same setup in vertical mode

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  8 месяцев назад

      To do this with the Weebill S you would need an L bracket to put the camera vertically which I do not have currently. I'll see if I can make a guide on this though.

  • @Makhnovets
    @Makhnovets 3 года назад

    Your Intro is pretty cool! Really nice mix of music and close-up shots combined with slow-mo! Love It!

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      Thank you! Really appreciate it!

  • @TheUschimac
    @TheUschimac Год назад

    Thank you this helped so far! Is anyone out there who managed a balancing in vertical with enough space for full movement on all axes?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  Год назад

      Glad it was helpful! Hopefully you're able to figure out vertical!

  • @pragyanbezbo
    @pragyanbezbo 3 года назад +5

    Cam on man! That was really helpful for me. I have the a7iii and planning to buy the Sigma 24-70 Art. This was helpful. I was planning for the RSC looking at the payload but saw that the headroom is too bad there. With this one, that shouldnt be the issue.
    What would be your long term review with this one? How is the weebill doing now?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад +1

      Thanks you! I still use the weebill S currently and it is still holding up really well. I've used the sigma 24-70, tamron 28-75, and several prime lenses like the 35 and 55 and the weebill S holds them no problem!

    • @pragyanbezbo
      @pragyanbezbo 3 года назад

      @@hoangpham Perfect then..... that really helps me in choosing.. thanks a lot :)

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      @@pragyanbezbo no problem!

    • @bensonaw3251
      @bensonaw3251 2 года назад

      sorry to hijack the thread a little, we wouldnt need to remove the eyepiece thing while using the zoom lens ?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      you do not need to remove the eyepiece to use the zoom lens in most cases

  • @fredericsidler
    @fredericsidler 3 года назад +1

    Thanks so much. Very useful. I was wondering if this gimbal was able to control the zoom without touching the lense manually.

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      Yes you can zoom using the zoom wheel on the gimbal but you would have to attach a focus motor to the gimbal first which comes separately.

    • @fredericsidler
      @fredericsidler 3 года назад

      @@hoangpham why do you need to attach an external motor? There are lenses that are controllable via LANC remote control. They don’t need any external motor for that. Is there any gimbal that can manage that without external motor?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад +2

      @@fredericsidler That is more common with cinema lenses and cameras so if you have that setup maybe you can get that to work. For most DSLR/mirrorless configurations they will need a focus motor. I don't know enough about LANC remote controls with gimbals to be able to help you much there.

    • @fredericsidler
      @fredericsidler 3 года назад +1

      @@hoangpham many thanks. I will continue to search for a nice combination (camera, motorized lenses, gimbal).

    • @fredericsidler
      @fredericsidler 3 года назад

      @@hoangpham i found an example here. If this remote can control the zoom of this DSLR camera, a gimbal should be able to do it too ;-) ruclips.net/video/t-UUFYTbjcM/видео.html

  • @blanklife2025
    @blanklife2025 2 года назад +1

    Great video! But can it handle sony a7iv with the sigma 24-70 f2.8?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад +1

      Yes it can! I made a video recently about balancing the A7Siii with the Sigma 24-70 on the gimbal and it worked. The A7iv is similar in weight to the A7siii so it should work as well!

    • @blanklife2025
      @blanklife2025 2 года назад +1

      @@hoangpham thanks man that info will really help me out :)

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      @@blanklife2025 glad to be able to help!

  • @gusjaramill0
    @gusjaramill0 3 года назад +2

    Awesome video man. Very informative. I'm looking into this same camara and lense. I currently have the weebil S but with the m50 . One question..... is the sigma an FE mount or did you have and adapter ? Thanks in advance

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад +1

      Thanks man! The Sigma 24-70 is an E (FE) mount lens so no adapter needed with the a7iii

  • @androiad
    @androiad 4 года назад +1

    great video thnx for all the details !! i just bought it and i because i broke my last gimbals motors .. i have a question i have a tamron 28-75 lens and if i balance it on 50mm or 40 and then move the zoom ring it falls.. is this gonna be solved by the motors when the gimbal is swiched on ? (i dint try it cause i dont wanna end up again with a brand new broken gimbal :P)

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      Hello, yes the motors have to be on for it to work, it won't stay balanced without them on. You can adjust the motor strength as well to make sure they are balanced properly when at 75 or 28, though I've been using the gimbal's auto motor strength setting and that's worked fine for me.

  • @davidpham6967
    @davidpham6967 4 года назад +1

    Very informative! Thanks for the info :)

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  4 года назад

      Thanks glad you liked it!

  • @cofanco2912
    @cofanco2912 4 года назад

    Search for this particular video bcs i have the same set up, great video. But I see you have a different riser plate there. Can you tell me what if you’re using a different one and where did you get it?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      Hey, I am using the 3 Legged Thing arca swiss clamp and plate, got it from Amazon

  • @bodnerlaw
    @bodnerlaw 2 года назад +1

    Thanks!

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      Thank you! Glad it was helpful!

  • @05_nathanaeldavidhalasson82
    @05_nathanaeldavidhalasson82 Месяц назад

    what if i use Variable ND Filter, so what focal lenght that should i use for balancing for the gimbal

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  Месяц назад

      @05_nathanaeldavidhalasson82 the lens will be more front heavy with a filter on so you will probably balance at a wider focal length maybe 35-40mm depending on how heavy the filter is.

  • @kendidshoots
    @kendidshoots 4 года назад

    YAS. i have the same gimbal, and I am really considering hard getting the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 for a one-lens workflow.
    currently having the 35mm and 85mm primes and it's a pain to swap lenses and rebalance

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад +1

      Yeah rebalancing is a pain, I needed an all in one solution that I could pick up and go quick so this worked best for me.

    • @kendidshoots
      @kendidshoots 3 года назад

      @@hoangpham really hope to get this soon, maybe sell off the 35mm 🙏🏼thanks for your time

  • @mutlubirfilm310
    @mutlubirfilm310 2 года назад

    Is there a rumbling sound in autofocus on sigma? Did you have the opportunity to try it?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      I have not heard any sound and haven't had any issue with the sigma auto focus

  • @RangerRickTV
    @RangerRickTV 3 года назад

    Any reason why you are not using a lens hood?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      I don't generally use them because they add too much overhead to bringing them around for the things I do. Nothing wrong with them though!

  • @labrostraveller
    @labrostraveller 2 года назад

    Great video. Do you know if i could use it with sony a7 iii and sony 24-105mm?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      I haven't been able to test this myself but the 24-105mm f4 is a bit lighter than the sigma 24-70 f2.8 so I believe it should work.

  • @Harris-uu2fy
    @Harris-uu2fy 4 года назад

    Weebill S is solid, got it, loved it, never turned back

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  4 года назад

      Agreed! I'm super impressed with it.

  • @diegofilms360
    @diegofilms360 3 года назад

    can you set the camera sideways for portrait mode and still use the gimbal?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      That's a good question! I'm not sure. I don't have an L bracket mount to try this so yeah... but with a lighter prime lens I'm fairly sure you can. Not sure if a heavier setup would work as the weight might be elevated too high but I'm not sure.

  • @strawhatfilms4990
    @strawhatfilms4990 4 года назад +1

    Dude how?? I have a Sony a7iii and Sigma 24-70mm and having a tough time balancing with the Weebill S. It's front heavy.
    Even at 24mm, let alone 45-50mm. Any tips? Does that custom mounting plate your using make a difference?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      The custom plate shouldn't affect much if it is front heavy, did you put your camera as far back as possible?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      I made an updated video without the quick release plate to help out including the exact measurements I balanced it at, check it out if you would like!

  • @ricardourroz9322
    @ricardourroz9322 Год назад

    Hi. I have a question. Once you balance in 50mm for example if you change it to 24mm ot 70mm shouln´t you have to rebalance again?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  Год назад +1

      yes, the gimbal's motors will work a bit harder at 24mm and 70mm but it should be stable and you wont need to rebalance

    • @ricardourroz9322
      @ricardourroz9322 Год назад

      @@hoangpham Great! Thanks

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  Год назад

      no problem!

  • @Undefinedlyrics
    @Undefinedlyrics 3 года назад

    what is that orange piece called you have on your gimbal? is it neccessary to balance heavier lenses??

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      Its a quick release plate, not necessary to balance with it. I go over that plate and balancing it without that place in the part 2 video I have on my channel on balancing this gimbal if you want to check that out!

  • @Sponsorpt
    @Sponsorpt 4 года назад +1

    Hi, do you use another kind of quick release plate? I use the one which came with the standard package. However, sony with the sigma 24-70mm is still front heavy when the camera is totally slided bacck

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      Hey so I do use the 3 Legged Thing arca swiss plate. I've gotten a few comments about the lens being front heavy so let me look into it and try taking the plate off and I will update everyone with my findings.

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      I made an updated video without the quick release plate to help out including the exact measurements I balanced it at, check it out if you would like!

    • @bao6802
      @bao6802 3 года назад

      @@hoangpham link pls same problem

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      @@bao6802 I have an updated video that addresses this where I remove the quick release plate. Links to the quick release plate are in the description. ruclips.net/video/ScOSp2OSi-c/видео.html&ab_channel=HoangPham

  • @MacieCvk
    @MacieCvk 4 года назад +1

    I have a Mark 5D4 and a canon 24-70 mm 2.8 lens. I couldn’t balance it at all, no clearance. Is it because my camera is bigger than the one you are using? Also, my camera does not have the multi usb input that comes with the weebill S. Do I need an adapter?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      The 5DM4 is both heavier and larger than the sony A7iii that I used, so I think the size is the issue, like you said not having clearance. I am unsure of the multi port adapter as I don't normally use it though I know they did design it Sony compatible but not sure what is needed for Canon.

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      I made an updated video where I balanced the Nikon D750 on the Weebill S, maybe that might help out!

  • @Leo-rh5gb
    @Leo-rh5gb 4 года назад

    What kind of plate (orange one) are you using to mount the camera on the gimbal?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      Hey I am using the 3 Legged Thing arca swiss plate

  • @ricardourroz9322
    @ricardourroz9322 Год назад

    Hi. I hope you can help me. I have no idea what am I doing wrong. I am trying to balance a Sony A7r3 with the 24-70GM for example the tilt motror is perfectly level and horizontal, wont fall front or back and same thing with everything but when I point the lens somewhere it goes back to horizontal on everything :(. What should I do? Thanks a lot

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  Год назад

      What do you mean when you point the lens somewhere it goes back to horizontal on everything? Do you mean when the gimbal is off and you turn the gimbal?

  • @jeremyfoster8944
    @jeremyfoster8944 2 года назад

    when changing focal lengths on this lens, is this gimbal better than crane 2?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      The Crane 2 can hold a slightly heavier payload so I think overall it handles the change a bit better. The Weebill S still performs very well even when changing focal lengths and I haven't had any issues with it.

  • @giorgidudaevi6189
    @giorgidudaevi6189 2 года назад

    can camera hold a weight of sigma itself or does it need a lens holder for gimbal ?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      I dont use the lens holder and haven't had any issues

  • @gyatsingh4440
    @gyatsingh4440 3 года назад

    Heyy
    I'm planning to to buy this gimbal
    But I'm not really sure that it'll be able to balance my setup
    I've a sony A7Riii with 24-70 g master lens ?
    Can it take its pay load?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      So I use the a7iii with the sigma 24-70 and its a tad lighter than the a7riii with the gmaster 24-70 so I cant be certain but from my testing with my setup, I believe it should be able to balance it.

  • @martinnogrady
    @martinnogrady 2 года назад +1

    What is the middle between 28-75mm?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад +1

      You can balance it at around 50-55mm

    • @martinnogrady
      @martinnogrady 2 года назад +1

      @@hoangpham And will I be able to zoom?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      Yes! I use the tamron 28-75 with this gimbal all the time and have no issues zooming if balanced properly!

    • @martinnogrady
      @martinnogrady 2 года назад

      @@hoangpham I want to use dji rs3

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      The RS3 should have no issues either with the 28-75

  • @leimbacherdominik1924
    @leimbacherdominik1924 4 года назад

    What about 24-70 GM with a Polar Pro PM ND on it? This ND makes it even more fron haevy. I have this problem with my Ronin Sc.

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      I have used it with the polar pro PM ND before. I had to rebalance it when putting it on but it did balance for me.

  • @METAPRODUCTIONQT
    @METAPRODUCTIONQT 4 года назад

    Where did you buy the orange? (Quick release)

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      it's the 3 Legged Thing arca swiss plate, got it on amazon

  • @georgeavgoustiweddingfilms
    @georgeavgoustiweddingfilms 3 года назад

    do you have the gimbal on Low, Medium or High Setting when is on this setup?

  • @CHTFilms
    @CHTFilms 2 года назад

    Hey. I bought A7sIII + 24-70 Sigma 2.8 but when I balance it correctly I cannot go in underslung mode because my camera touches roll axis motor??

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      I haven't gotten to test that lens with the A7SIII yet. I know for some people they have taken the eyepiece off the camera to allow for underslung mode. Using riser plates may help some as well. If I get the change to test that setup out I'll let you know what I find!

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      I just released a video on balancing the A7sIII and the Sigma 24-70 if you want to check it out!

  • @weenbeanproductonswbp8401
    @weenbeanproductonswbp8401 4 года назад +1

    I can't balance my 24-70 tamron with my eos R. Hmm Seems like you have an aftermarket plate?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      Hm, that's surprising, any particular axis giving you trouble? That lens is a tad heavier than the sigma 24-70 I used but I can't imagine it would be enough to make it not balance. I am using the 3 Legged Thing arca swiss plate

    • @weenbeanproductonswbp8401
      @weenbeanproductonswbp8401 3 года назад

      @@hoangpham I can get it to partially balance but viewfinder hits back motor. I can only shoot in pov or go mode to avoid hitting motor

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      @@weenbeanproductonswbp8401 Check out my latest video, I balance the D750 on the Weebill S and am able to go into underslung mode without hitting the eyepiece

  • @michaelschnepf6561
    @michaelschnepf6561 3 года назад

    How are you able to adjust the zoom lens with one hand? If I try this, the gimbal will tilt, so i have to put the gimbal down, hold the camera with the one hand and adjust the zoom lens with the other hand. Is there any trick, or is it better to turn off the gimbal when i adjust the zoom lens?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад +1

      So I use my pinky and ring finger to hold the lens and camera in place while twisting the lens to zoom and for me this works with my setup. I do use a quick release plate to raise the camera above the default base plate so the lens doesn't have any added friction with the plate. In an updated gimbal balancing video I took the quick release plate off and noticed that it was hard to zoom with only one hand.

  • @leylourioste1242
    @leylourioste1242 2 года назад

    I have an a7c with the sigma art 24-70 and the load is heavy on front and doesn't balance

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      That's interesting. I haven't gotten to test it with the A7c, but my initial thought is that the A7c is lighter than the A73 and I'm wondering if because of it's lightness the center of gravity is too far forward and you can't move the camera back far enough. You could try balancing it at less than 50mm, maybe 35mm or less to see if that would work. Let me know if you are able to balance it at something less than 50.

  • @agri2986
    @agri2986 2 года назад

    did you use sigma 2470 ?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  2 года назад

      Yup it was with the Sigma 24-70

  • @geovannetumandao3588
    @geovannetumandao3588 3 года назад

    Can I change focal length without balancing?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      For this setup yes you can change the focal length without rebalancing

  • @ChrisFlores22
    @ChrisFlores22 3 года назад

    Dude could I leave my cage on the camera or should I take it off. Also when I do certain movements the gimbal begins to vibrate a lot. What is that orange thing under the camera v

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад +1

      You may be able to leave the cage on depending on how heavy it is and how it shifts the center of gravity of the setup but if you want to be safe then take it off. If the gimbal vibrates a lot then the center of gravity is too off balance for the motors to correct. You can fix that by either making the motor strength stronger or removing any extra weight to make the payload lighter. There may be some cases where the motors simply cannot handle the weight. The orange thing is a quick release plate listed in the description.

  • @daisynguyen307
    @daisynguyen307 3 года назад

    Thank you

  • @DannyboyHHNJ
    @DannyboyHHNJ 3 года назад

    I'm guessing the lens hood is a no go?

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад +1

      You probably could put a lens hood on, it might make it a bit more unstable at the widest or most zoomed settings but i think if you calibrate the motors and balance it right you might be able to pull it off. I've used fairly heavy ND filters while on the gimbal without issues. Just gotta make sure to rebalance it when putting it on.

  • @1992hb
    @1992hb Год назад

    Crazy question here but has anyone tried balancing a crop sensor camera with a tamron 70-180? 😬😬

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  Год назад

      I feel like because of the design of the tamron 70-180 and how it doesn't have a foot like the sony 70-200, combined with how light a crop sensor camera is, you won't be able to move the camera back far enough to get it balanced

  • @jordanbeckfilms
    @jordanbeckfilms 3 года назад

    My eyepiece does bump for my sigma 85mm how do I fix it???

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад +1

      Hard to say for sure, but the 85mm should work as it is lighter than the 24-70. Make sure it is fully balanced properly. Are you using the weebill S as opposed to the weebill lab?

    • @jordanbeckfilms
      @jordanbeckfilms 3 года назад

      @@hoangpham I am using the webill s 😬

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      @@jordanbeckfilms Do you have any other accessories on the camera/gimbal like a quick release plate? Is it possible to slide the camera forward?

    • @jordanbeckfilms
      @jordanbeckfilms 3 года назад

      @@hoangpham no unfortunately. If I slide it forward it’s not balanced.

    • @hoangpham
      @hoangpham  3 года назад

      @@jordanbeckfilms I just looked up and found a video of someone balancing the weebill s with the sigma 85mm 1.4 and they removed the rubber eyepiece on the camera. Not sure if that was out of necessity or not but that might be worth a try

  • @SnowHuang19933
    @SnowHuang19933 3 года назад

    請問你會說中文嗎