Spammed this comp a ton last patch in mid-masters and learned it relatively thoroughly. It's just not viable anymore after the poppy nerf. Without the cc poppy doesn't live long enough for kayle to stack the rageblades. I'd also advise against afk since it pretty much locks you in to 1st or 8th. You lose out on really important rounds to establish direction towards a 1 cost reroll comp, and you end up bleeding a ton of hp and miss a ton of opportunities for early pairs of your units. Also, not going for double rageblade is playing for 3rd or 4th. You're not winning any rounds early on so slamming any non-tank item is never worth it, you're better off just forcing a 2nd rageblade after you get your first chain vest.
Gonna say it again: you should consider showing an updated cheat sheet from this set, instead of one from 2 sets ago. Looks more useful, making people more likely to see the potential benefit. Also works as a favor/gift, which makes people more likely to buy products (marketing psychology).
Yeah I agree, showing a cheat sheet from dragonlands is useless since the set is over so people won't know how good or bad the cheat sheet is. He should just make one for every current set.
Yes. It is garbage now. Guess Maskoff had this video prepared and needed to get it out... no matter if the comp is actually any good in the current meta.
I had a highroll game with Viego, Kayle, poppy, Galio and Maokai all three star at 3-3. Do you stack 4-star poppy or 3-star galio then? Should I still sell Galio 3 star for jarvan 1?? That seems bad. And why no viego 3-star???? Should I just sell him eventhough I got him 3-star?
One Day, I only hit Kayle and Galio 2 Stara because I got contested. How I managed to gain Bastion Emblem, I make 6 Bastion 3 Slayers Kayle lvl 9 to win this game. Very fun.
Somehow i havent been able to have any success with this comp, averaging in the 7s lol im bad. The full 3 star board just doesnt feel that stable on stage 4 and beyond to me. And hitting too late begind tempo in stage 3 will cause you to fall really low. Havent seen anyone play this around master recently
Yeah it’s a decent comp to be honest. It’s really weak early game and even mid game. U usually die bf lv9 bc how hard it is to play. It requires lucky in rolling, in items, in enemies. If they played slow then this comp would be great but if they try to push hard then u would usually 7-8th.
Have played almost all of my first ranked with this comp, and I gotta say its a B tier IMO. It works well on low elo but you really struggle in higher elo or you're being contested. You go 1st or you go 8th most of the time.
Really great comp imo. I do reccomend you know when to pivot with this comp because unlike other reroll comps if you don't hit Kayle 3* early you will go 7th or 8th, so knowing that is also a key thing about this comp. You have people going for Kayle or just adding her with Zed so you have ways to be contested on it.
This is not an easy comp to force, sometimes even play Kayle early because of Zed reroll which does use her early. If I see more than 2-3 people having Kayle I just go for a different comp, even if you do build rageblade you still have other units which can use it like Tristana, Akshan, Jhin, Aphelios etc. So losing out on it doesn't hurt that much.
You need to mention building edge of night as Kayle's third item. It almost completely counters Yasuo/Zed/Rogue carries which is one of the few counters to this board, which a lot of people lose to and then write off the comp as bad. I'm winning with this in Master, if you can't win with it you're not playing it correctly.
i loved this comb, but like all reroll combs, it must be nerfed to the ground, i wish ppl would learn to counter builds, instead of just crying to gms to nerf everything, same with viego, tristana, warwick, kassadin... so enjoy the samira while it last, she will get nerfed to the ground to
Spammed this comp a ton last patch in mid-masters and learned it relatively thoroughly. It's just not viable anymore after the poppy nerf. Without the cc poppy doesn't live long enough for kayle to stack the rageblades. I'd also advise against afk since it pretty much locks you in to 1st or 8th. You lose out on really important rounds to establish direction towards a 1 cost reroll comp, and you end up bleeding a ton of hp and miss a ton of opportunities for early pairs of your units.
Also, not going for double rageblade is playing for 3rd or 4th. You're not winning any rounds early on so slamming any non-tank item is never worth it, you're better off just forcing a 2nd rageblade after you get your first chain vest.
Gonna say it again: you should consider showing an updated cheat sheet from this set, instead of one from 2 sets ago.
Looks more useful, making people more likely to see the potential benefit. Also works as a favor/gift, which makes people more likely to buy products (marketing psychology).
Yeah I agree, showing a cheat sheet from dragonlands is useless since the set is over so people won't know how good or bad the cheat sheet is.
He should just make one for every current set.
Wasn't this comp heavily nerfed in this patch with the poppy change?
Yes. It is garbage now. Guess Maskoff had this video prepared and needed to get it out... no matter if the comp is actually any good in the current meta.
@@nApucco Unfortunately, this seems to be a trend. The videos seem to come out 1-2 days late.
@@nApucco It's a tier b
Can Kayle's spell apply sunder, for example if she has the item Last Whisper?
In the Soul Brawl mode I was able to do this exact comp right now and got 1st place! Thanks for the videos!
why lee sin? do all 3 of the 2-1 augments work or just the silver one?
I had a highroll game with Viego, Kayle, poppy, Galio and Maokai all three star at 3-3. Do you stack 4-star poppy or 3-star galio then? Should I still sell Galio 3 star for jarvan 1?? That seems bad. And why no viego 3-star???? Should I just sell him eventhough I got him 3-star?
One Day, I only hit Kayle and Galio 2 Stara because I got contested. How I managed to gain Bastion Emblem, I make 6 Bastion 3 Slayers Kayle lvl 9 to win this game. Very fun.
The reason I can't win with it is because I avoid it like the plague, it's fun like stepping on a Lego kek
It's a bad comp.
The Poppy nerf for her aoe stun from 1s to 0.25s was just too much for this comp. Trist reroll is just a better version of this comp atm.
Do you not want to run Senna over Zed once you hit 8/9?
when do we level to 7 and 8?
Thank you, great video and guide
Glad it was helpful!
I usually switch Teemo into Heimer and get the HP burn upgrade after level 9, isn't that better than 2 strategiest or am I stupid
It's better for sure
Somehow i havent been able to have any success with this comp, averaging in the 7s lol im bad. The full 3 star board just doesnt feel that stable on stage 4 and beyond to me. And hitting too late begind tempo in stage 3 will cause you to fall really low. Havent seen anyone play this around master recently
Yeah it’s a decent comp to be honest. It’s really weak early game and even mid game. U usually die bf lv9 bc how hard it is to play. It requires lucky in rolling, in items, in enemies. If they played slow then this comp would be great but if they try to push hard then u would usually 7-8th.
thank you for this guide, before that i was always doing 8th with kayle but now i really popped off! :D
4*Poppy's stun gets removed this patch and alternatively just focus on 3* Kayle and then push to lvl 9 with Gwen as a 2ndary carry
Have played almost all of my first ranked with this comp, and I gotta say its a B tier IMO. It works well on low elo but you really struggle in higher elo or you're being contested.
You go 1st or you go 8th most of the time.
Really great comp imo. I do reccomend you know when to pivot with this comp because unlike other reroll comps if you don't hit Kayle 3* early you will go 7th or 8th, so knowing that is also a key thing about this comp. You have people going for Kayle or just adding her with Zed so you have ways to be contested on it.
That's why it's a bad comp. You need it to be perfect to pull it off. Waiting until 4-1 like he said has you at 30 hp and on deaths door.
This video is so good and so helpful. It’s a pity in the 13.16 kayle will be nerfed.
I just watched this and tried for the first time
Two 1st places in a row
I can't win with kayle re roll since 4 people try to spam it every game in Plat LMAO
doesn’t change in diamond either lmao
Then don't force comps other people are playing.
@@trafalgarlaw8373 I never go the same comp as 2+ people.
This is not an easy comp to force, sometimes even play Kayle early because of Zed reroll which does use her early. If I see more than 2-3 people having Kayle I just go for a different comp, even if you do build rageblade you still have other units which can use it like Tristana, Akshan, Jhin, Aphelios etc. So losing out on it doesn't hurt that much.
You need to mention building edge of night as Kayle's third item. It almost completely counters Yasuo/Zed/Rogue carries which is one of the few counters to this board, which a lot of people lose to and then write off the comp as bad.
I'm winning with this in Master, if you can't win with it you're not playing it correctly.
So i had the best version i could make for this, and last fight my maokai decided to disappear and i just lost... if you made it here also I feel you
i loved this comb, but like all reroll combs, it must be nerfed to the ground, i wish ppl would learn to counter builds, instead of just crying to gms to nerf everything, same with viego, tristana, warwick, kassadin... so enjoy the samira while it last, she will get nerfed to the ground to
Do not play this comp this patch at all
Heimer has to be better than teemo even if you lose strategist
Forgot to mention that, 100%
Yeah Heimer provides a lot more utility with his cc and turret.
This comp is extremely weak this patch
bait comp tbh