Watching this half awake on my first coffee of the day and it's flying past so quick. Thank you again for taking the time to work it all out. Frank would've loved it.
You're unbelievable !!! Bravissimo Tyler, even though I don't follow everything, I do get your phenomenal expertise. My coolest "Music Is The Best" salutations !
Wow. That was incredible! Montana is one of my favorite songs, not to mention *the* song that got me into Zappa. I loved this video. I only have one critique, and it's that sometimes your dialogue is a little awkward, but in my opinion it's completely overshadowed by the academic quality and production value! I can't imagine how long it took to put all of the sheet music and music bits together, what with you using your own sounds. The art was really entertaining and fun as well! Loved all the cowboy/dental floss/Zappa imagery lol. The information here was tremendous as well, yet still easy to understand (coming from someone with alright theory knowledge). It was really cool to see how a lot of Frank's music overlaps with lots of similar harmonies and melodic figures. I seriously learnt a lot from this, and I appreciate how straightforward it was. Thank you for the great video!
@@TylerBartram For real though it wouldn't kill you to pre-apply the edit that I used to listen to this video: reduced speed (thankfully RUclips now provides finer control over that than it used to).
Seeing the channel I watched for saints row shitposting as a young boy is praising the same Zappa analysis I am as a young man, oh how the world spins.
@@jjj8035 How lovely of you to let me know. I think Emma makes a very good job of Frank Zappa's voice which is not easy for a woman to do. And I'm glad it came alive in audio as the written version is not available until late April.
When you see this kind of analysis, it is no wonder his stature as a composer is still growing. Also interesting that this is an analysis which is much more appealing in a video format than in a written format (say, a musicology journal article).
@@paulinebutcherbird Well, maybe not in the places where you expect...there is a lot being published in musicology journals, and in certain sections of the (European) improvised music sphere his musical influence is acknowledged. Guys like Raoul Björkenheim and Lukas Ligeti, both on on the edge between jazz and composed music.
"Jumbo, go away" has what Frank Zappa considered one of the hardest middle sections for any of his musicians to play. You could do that. Also, curiously... Frank said that EVERY musician that ever tried to play the middle sax run in Peaches en Regalia... no matter what instrument... EVERYBODY had problems with that run. Every group. Frank Zappa was notorious for writing melodies that broke musicians hands... and brains. Nice job... it was a thrill to watch this.
@@horowizard yes.. but Frank specified that it DIDN'T MATTER what instrument....guitar... flute... sax... keyboard... they ALL had difficulty with that line.
Well said about the Peaches sax run - I thought I could handle it easily on guitar (the guitar part is straightforward), and quickly got an education! You can see from Tyler's face at the end there after he plays the lick - you just have to hold on and maybe you can nail it, but to master it is an undertaking.
This is by far one of the best videos about Frank i've ever seen in my whole life, big congratulations on you Tyler for making this absolute dream come true!
Fucking finally. Somebody makes a video (an amazing one about Montana). Great work. Second Zappa solo I learned (by ear) after Peaches. One of my all time favs. Couldn't have said it better -- it showcases EVERYTHING Zappa was great at, recorded by LEGENDS
This song completely changed my ears forever…… what an amazing homage to the Maestro Tyler…. Genius analysis of genius…. Fair play to you you’re doing something really special here
Thank you. Thank you. I listen to Montana almost once a week and have been for decades. I love it WITH the detailed thoughtful analysis (as yours) as much as I do without thinking. Frank's music is music for the head and the heart. Thank you.
Two things to add before I go. Firstly, I feel sad that someone as talented as you clearly are may have a harder time making the kind of living that Frank made, mainly because of streaming and illegal downloading of music. This, because you really deserve it. Second, I loved that Frank made such unique and fun music, because my friends who weren't interested in a musical education, were just as happy as I was to listen to Frank all the time while I was getting my musical education. I think Frank wanted to play with the idea of having fun, while thinking hard. Thank you so much for this extraordinary breakdown and good luck with music.
As a composer, I find the number of people willing to work for free and release their work on royalty-free sound sites to be far more destructive to the notion of being a composer for a living. Why would anyone want to hire a composer when there's all this free stuff out there, some of which is good (even if a lot of it isn't)? The people who _don't_ need to make a living from it are making it nearly impossible for anyone who wants to.
What is left out of FZ's success as a composer is that he was willing to go to extremes to get publicity. On his first trip to Europe, he put on a short dress that revealed his hairy legs, shoved in apples to suggest breasts and tied his hair in bunches on either side of his ears. This photo hit front pages of music papers and gave him a jump start. How many composers would be willing to degrade themselves in this way?
The question is, did Frank consciously know what he was doing harmonically when he wrote all these pieces? Or was he simply going with his gut instinct?
The guy listened to classical music, it was his brain that attracted me to his music,most of the musicians were classicaly trained including George Duke, Ruth Underwood
Learning so much from these, and the presentation is so well put together. I especially like how you're recreating the songs using a daw, because it really lets the listener hear clearly what it is you're drawing attention to in the music, and it also makes it easier to hear the harmonic and melodic underpinnings of Frank's music when you compare different tracks. Great channel, hope you keep it up!
I finally get to finish the whole video. Fantastic! How about a fast analysis of that little Rite of Spring quote on "Fountain of love"? Time keeps passing by and still cannot find it. All the best!
I have no idea what you are talking about. But this is all very interesting. Even though I don't understand stand music theory I know understand why I love Zappas music. This is all very inspiring. I'm going to look into some basic music theory lessons now. Thank you for this beautiful breakdown. I have to go floss my teeth now!!!
I believe the tape trick is used on st. Alfonso Pancake Breakfast too . 47 seconds in, the trumpet very much sounds like a pitched trombone articulationwise.
Yeah, great example. FZ really liked having Bruce Fowler do that and you can hear it on other tunes like “Echidna’s Arf”/“Don’t You Ever Wash That Thing?”, “Be-Bop Tango” and “Regyptian Strut”.
Outstanding job ! Your skillfull and patience to research all these sections is amazing. Your knowlogment also. Its should be a possible one breakdown of revised music for low budget orchestra ?
What a great series of videos. Thanks for doing this! Sinister Footwear II is my favorite piece of FZ's music. There's so much going on in the 3 major movements of that one. I find his re-use of the transition melody in Wild Love/Yo' Mama kind of interesting too.
you did it again, Tyler ! Awesome analysis, great audio & video. I love the examples of speeding up and slowing down vocals. I knew this fact, but I never pitched e.g. Greggary Peccary down to listen to FZ's real voice...maybe I will do that soon :D
Dang, this is swimming in the deep end. At the point where the bamboozlement of my level of theory begins to end. U can understand, but barely grasp. You have'm mighty good ears, for a cowboy. Keep up the good work Kemosabe, The people I hang with swim in the baby pool, and really don't swim, just stand and splash. Controlling the splash, the contour, the glisten in the sun lighty light - that's the quality cheese. Mortals cannot slow the splash down, like the gods
Woah, usually after dissecting something it should seem easier to understand. After seeing the results explained wonderfully, I’m still blown away at the complexity of FZ’s music and the explanation 😎👍🙏♥️ thanks
Tyler! So entertaining and educational! I love all the examples. Will you be doing any more soon? I am always amazed at the Montana bridge, and all the versions (and your ear and talent.) How about a pound for a brown, next time? Thanks, professor.
@@TylerBartram right. Another song played on most tours. (By the way, check out versions of Montana during the 1972 wazoo tours. They are rare, pre-overnight, with cool tempo changes.) Thanks again, professor. Keep up the good work.
Tyler, thank you for this. Excellent work, even if it's a bit too much to take in one sitting. I've transcribed so much Zappa music and sometimes get stuck on some little section - you know, the tricky nested tuplets... So thanks for finally clearing up some bits that eluded me!
Cool analysis and great visual design of the video. A few ideas for other songs you could discuss: - Sinister Footwear II - The "trilogy" of Pigmy Twilight/Echidna's Arf/Don't You Ever Wash That Thing - Guitar solo harmonic language & rhythms (either in general, or picking a few example solos) - Watermelon in Easter Hay/Black Napkins (not as 'complex' I suppose but still beautiful pieces of music, would be cool to see them broken down and analyzed)
@Tyler Bartram - ENDLICH - FINALLY - I waited for years for news about your fantestic world, Tyler! I really appreciate your work so much - all the best and a big hug from Austria high upon the alps
Whoa....I gotta watch this in sections. One question...do you, and your audience, think that Frank was aware of all this stuff as he composed? I'm not say he didn't have theory but did he have it in mind as he wrote?
Hard to say but I think I’d lean towards no. He did mention that he wouldn’t sit down to figure out his odd time patterns until he had to write it down. It seems like he would always follow his ear first and listening to rehearsal tapes you can hear how strongly that would lead him. For his classical writing I think you could make a much stronger case that he did have that stuff in mind, though.
@@TylerBartram I'd agree with that, you might say he wrote what he heard rather than heard what he wrote! Been listen to FZ since the mid 70s and saw him twice here in London at Hammersmith Odean. Always intrigued by the way he would compose stunning music and overlay it with throwaway lyrics!
If anyone's interested in Frank's explanation of the lyrics to Jazz Party Hats, then check out my interview with him on You Tube, Pauline Butcher interviews Frank Zappa. There are five short segments: politics, parenting, composing, evangelism and a question to me.
Subscribed. My "Eureka" moment with Frank years ago. I was always blown away that there's so much unison playing in the bridge -- side note: Ruth Underwood is from another planet. I had no idea all this other insanity was hiding here. This is a brilliant dive into one of rock's greatest lineups.
at 17:15 you mentionned 'maybe it's a guitar thing'. There's definitely some of that in his music. One example is the outro section of 'echidna's arf of you'. The first quintuplet motif moves up a tritone, then up a major third, then up another tritone, but this time, instead of doing '1-5-1-2-m3', it goes '1-b6-1-2-m3', because it is played with the G and B strings, which are, well, a major third apart, as opposed to a fourth apart compared to every other sets of two strings. So that difference only makes sense if you're a guitar player: it's clearly written as a guitar pattern that you repeat on each set of two strings. Anyways, back to watching the rest of the video! Fantastic stuff, much to digest and learn here, props for the editing as well!
Love it!
the dweeze!!!
So do I ...
Me too!
One of the best albums ever.
dweezil ❤️
This is a bit too in depth. And I want more.
ha ha ha... astonishing detail
I think we all do
Usually RUclips sucks. This is where RUclips shines! Just this Montana breakdown is worth more than decades of cable TV.
lol, yeah man
How am I only getting around to watching this? *Fantastic fantastic fantastic* work!
Watching this half awake on my first coffee of the day and it's flying past so quick. Thank you again for taking the time to work it all out. Frank would've loved it.
You're unbelievable !!! Bravissimo Tyler, even though I don't follow everything, I do get your phenomenal expertise. My coolest "Music Is The Best" salutations !
That was just plain amazing! Thanks! I've smashed all the smashers! Salutations from astonishingly grey, cold & locked down Ireland! ☘️☮️🤘🏽🤠👍🏽☮️☘️
Wow. That was incredible! Montana is one of my favorite songs, not to mention *the* song that got me into Zappa. I loved this video.
I only have one critique, and it's that sometimes your dialogue is a little awkward, but in my opinion it's completely overshadowed by the academic quality and production value! I can't imagine how long it took to put all of the sheet music and music bits together, what with you using your own sounds. The art was really entertaining and fun as well! Loved all the cowboy/dental floss/Zappa imagery lol.
The information here was tremendous as well, yet still easy to understand (coming from someone with alright theory knowledge). It was really cool to see how a lot of Frank's music overlaps with lots of similar harmonies and melodic figures.
I seriously learnt a lot from this, and I appreciate how straightforward it was. Thank you for the great video!
I’m an incredibly awkward person so I’m glad I stayed true to myself!
@@TylerBartram For real though it wouldn't kill you to pre-apply the edit that I used to listen to this video: reduced speed (thankfully RUclips now provides finer control over that than it used to).
Great video
This video is absolutely brilliant. Thank you so much for putting in the amazing work to pay respects to an amazing song.
Seeing the channel I watched for saints row shitposting as a young boy is praising the same Zappa analysis I am as a young man, oh how the world spins.
Brilliant. I lived and worked with Frank Zappa and saw him compose, but I've never heard any of his songs dissected in such a fascinating way.
I listened to your book as an audiobook. I had such a great time listening to all of it on my drives and absolutely loved it!
@@jjj8035 How lovely of you to let me know. I think Emma makes a very good job of Frank Zappa's voice which is not easy for a woman to do. And I'm glad it came alive in audio as the written version is not available until late April.
When you see this kind of analysis, it is no wonder his stature as a composer is still growing. Also interesting that this is an analysis which is much more appealing in a video format than in a written format (say, a musicology journal article).
@@theproblembelief7549 I agree with you about this analysis but, is it true that Zappa's stature as a composer is growing? I don't see it happening.
@@paulinebutcherbird Well, maybe not in the places where you expect...there is a lot being published in musicology journals, and in certain sections of the (European) improvised music sphere his musical influence is acknowledged. Guys like Raoul Björkenheim and Lukas Ligeti, both on on the edge between jazz and composed music.
Wow he paid them a fair wage for their work and basically gave a huge middle finger to Ike
your slide version at the end is absolutely beautiful by the way !!
Thanks! Here is the full version if you’d like to listen ruclips.net/video/my92pPSHHwI/видео.html
Why do I get the feeling that centuries of music theory were all leading up to this moment?
I didn't expect to watch the whole thing, now I'm late for work
"Jumbo, go away" has what Frank Zappa considered one of the hardest middle sections for any of his musicians to play. You could do that.
Also, curiously... Frank said that EVERY musician that ever tried to play the middle sax run in Peaches en Regalia... no matter what instrument... EVERYBODY had problems with that run. Every group.
Frank Zappa was notorious for writing melodies that broke musicians hands... and brains. Nice job... it was a thrill to watch this.
what about the crazy part in fembot
@@horowizard yes.. but Frank specified that it DIDN'T MATTER what instrument....guitar... flute... sax... keyboard... they ALL had difficulty with that line.
I think I have, werrrmmms!
Well said about the Peaches sax run - I thought I could handle it easily on guitar (the guitar part is straightforward), and quickly got an education! You can see from Tyler's face at the end there after he plays the lick - you just have to hold on and maybe you can nail it, but to master it is an undertaking.
Amazing video. Middle section of Jumbo Go Away gets my vote for a future analysis.
This analysis is INCREDIBLE. I knew that sus chords were prominent in Zappa's work, but had no idea just how INTEGRAL they were.
I’ve always heard and believed FZ was a musical genius. This really helps explain what that means.
This is by far one of the best videos about Frank i've ever seen in my whole life, big congratulations on you Tyler for making this absolute dream come true!
Of course yes we wanna see more breakdowns of FZ genius Music ! You're doing such an amazing job Tyler ! Thx soooo much !
What a superb presentation. The reading, audio, graphics, and theory were synchromeshed smooth as lube.
This deserves waaay more views.
There is so much good information and the production values are through the roof.
This explains a lot of why Zappa's tunes often twisted my mind. Now I understand.
Just like your video on Alien Orifice - this is Brilliant.
Thank you!
as if there were ever any doubt before, the floss is definitely with you sir - thanks & cheers from the Delta - yippeeyiyotiyaay
My friend, you have it. Thank you for unlocking a small window into his writing process - this a major work. F*ckin A'!
Fucking finally. Somebody makes a video (an amazing one about Montana). Great work. Second Zappa solo I learned (by ear) after Peaches. One of my all time favs. Couldn't have said it better -- it showcases EVERYTHING Zappa was great at, recorded by LEGENDS
This song completely changed my ears forever…… what an amazing homage to the Maestro Tyler…. Genius analysis of genius…. Fair play to you you’re doing something really special here
You deserve Dweezil Zappa as a subscriber. Brilliant job.
4:34 who noticed the completely fucking genius segue music here with the riffs from each song combined as one mega riff?
This was an amazingly well made video. Good work Tyler. I hope your channel gains traction and that you receive the recognition you deserve
The melody that got me hooked forever... This is awesome. Love the lap steel rendition!
Awesome video, not only a great analysis but also great visuals and editing. Subscribed!
Thank you. Thank you. I listen to Montana almost once a week and have been for decades. I love it WITH the detailed thoughtful analysis (as yours) as much as I do without thinking. Frank's music is music for the head and the heart. Thank you.
When you need a musical brain massage, accept no substitutes!
I did it. I turned the knob on the oscillator myself.
I don't know who you are or where you came from but this is incredible and I want more!!
Two things to add before I go. Firstly, I feel sad that someone as talented as you clearly are may have a harder time making the kind of living that Frank made, mainly because of streaming and illegal downloading of music. This, because you really deserve it. Second, I loved that Frank made such unique and fun music, because my friends who weren't interested in a musical education, were just as happy as I was to listen to Frank all the time while I was getting my musical education. I think Frank wanted to play with the idea of having fun, while thinking hard. Thank you so much for this extraordinary breakdown and good luck with music.
As a composer, I find the number of people willing to work for free and release their work on royalty-free sound sites to be far more destructive to the notion of being a composer for a living. Why would anyone want to hire a composer when there's all this free stuff out there, some of which is good (even if a lot of it isn't)? The people who _don't_ need to make a living from it are making it nearly impossible for anyone who wants to.
What is left out of FZ's success as a composer is that he was willing to go to extremes to get publicity. On his first trip to Europe, he put on a short dress that revealed his hairy legs, shoved in apples to suggest breasts and tied his hair in bunches on either side of his ears. This photo hit front pages of music papers and gave him a jump start. How many composers would be willing to degrade themselves in this way?
I've been obsessed with Zappa's muisc for 40 years, but Sign me up for your PhD level course on FZ composition and theory analysis.
I was raised n weaned on Zappa.
glad youre uploading again dude. hearing the slowed down original version of the ikettes singing on montana is a trip
The question is, did Frank consciously know what he was doing harmonically when he wrote all these pieces? Or was he simply going with his gut instinct?
I was waiting for this comment
I feel like Frank Zappa knew 100 percent harmonically what he was doing and only then did he go with his gut instinct. 🤔
@@moji4621 good answer.
Frank told me that sometimes he knew exactly what he'd written would sound like, but other times he had no idea until he heard it played.
The guy listened to classical music, it was his brain that attracted me to his music,most of the musicians were classicaly trained including George Duke, Ruth Underwood
One of the best explanations of Franks techniques that I've ever seen
You Sir, are a genius....thank you thank you thank you
This is going to be my daily study practice from now on
EXCELLENT!!!! Well done. Love your graphics too.
This is a dissertation Dr. Bartram. Congratulations.
This is top-notch content. It must have taken you ages to make. Thank you
I have been addicted to this interlude since I was a teenager. Ty
Learning so much from these, and the presentation is so well put together. I especially like how you're recreating the songs using a daw, because it really lets the listener hear clearly what it is you're drawing attention to in the music, and it also makes it easier to hear the harmonic and melodic underpinnings of Frank's music when you compare different tracks. Great channel, hope you keep it up!
Thank you so much! I have plans for many more.
@@TylerBartramYes!!!!!
I finally get to finish the whole video. Fantastic! How about a fast analysis of that little Rite of Spring quote on "Fountain of love"?
Time keeps passing by and still cannot find it.
All the best!
Great googly-moogly, fantastic upload, many thanks.
Some things just come naturally to some people. Like trying to break down the math in poetry. Nice video.
I like the part where he talks about notes.
man I love this song but I don't understand sh#t ur saying lol
That made me laugh.
I have no idea what you are talking about. But this is all very interesting. Even though I don't understand stand music theory I know understand why I love Zappas music. This is all very inspiring. I'm going to look into some basic music theory lessons now. Thank you for this beautiful breakdown. I have to go floss my teeth now!!!
I love comments like this. Have fun!
Awesome just another reason to hold frank in our hearts ❤️
Wow! Thank you very much for your analysis videos. Looking forward to more!
Man, I would love to see what Frank would think about this video. Gone way too early...
Amazing skillfully researched & produced video! You are the FZ of FZ breakdown videos!
I believe the tape trick is used on st. Alfonso Pancake Breakfast too . 47 seconds in, the trumpet very much sounds like a pitched trombone articulationwise.
Yeah, great example. FZ really liked having Bruce Fowler do that and you can hear it on other tunes like “Echidna’s Arf”/“Don’t You Ever Wash That Thing?”, “Be-Bop Tango” and “Regyptian Strut”.
Outstanding job ! Your skillfull and patience to research all these sections is amazing. Your knowlogment also. Its should be a possible one breakdown of revised music for low budget orchestra ?
Great suggestion and one of my favorites pieces!
@@TylerBartram yes ! One of the top ZAPPA pieces
One minute in and I'm totally hooked, subbed, doing background research... WOW.
What a brilliant examination. Bravo man! incredible
What a great series of videos. Thanks for doing this! Sinister Footwear II is my favorite piece of FZ's music. There's so much going on in the 3 major movements of that one. I find his re-use of the transition melody in Wild Love/Yo' Mama kind of interesting too.
The Sinister Footwear guitar solo and subsequent orchestral piece are cool too.
What a great analysis! Really well presented as well. Love that you throw in musical examples from his other tunes to make a point. Please keep it up!
you did it again, Tyler ! Awesome analysis, great audio & video. I love the examples of speeding up and slowing down vocals. I knew this fact, but I never pitched e.g. Greggary Peccary down to listen to FZ's real voice...maybe I will do that soon :D
Excellent Tyler - very well put together. Thanks!
you are what he is
Dang, this is swimming in the deep end. At the point where the bamboozlement of my level of theory begins to end. U can understand, but barely grasp. You have'm mighty good ears, for a cowboy. Keep up the good work Kemosabe, The people I hang with swim in the baby pool, and really don't swim, just stand and splash. Controlling the splash, the contour, the glisten in the sun lighty light - that's the quality cheese. Mortals cannot slow the splash down, like the gods
Woah, usually after dissecting something it should seem easier to understand. After seeing the results explained wonderfully, I’m still blown away at the complexity of FZ’s music and the explanation 😎👍🙏♥️ thanks
Tyler! So entertaining and educational! I love all the examples. Will you be doing any more soon? I am always amazed at the Montana bridge, and all the versions (and your ear and talent.) How about a pound for a brown, next time? Thanks, professor.
Great suggestion! Lots of 4ths there in the ostinato and melody. I love that weird harmony on the bridge that he added during the ‘77-‘79 period.
@@TylerBartram right. Another song played on most tours. (By the way, check out versions of Montana during the 1972 wazoo tours. They are rare, pre-overnight, with cool tempo changes.) Thanks again, professor. Keep up the good work.
Mr Tyler Bartram, you are a beast! Kudos and many thanks for the effort!
Tyler, thank you for this. Excellent work, even if it's a bit too much to take in one sitting. I've transcribed so much Zappa music and sometimes get stuck on some little section - you know, the tricky nested tuplets... So thanks for finally clearing up some bits that eluded me!
Cool analysis and great visual design of the video.
A few ideas for other songs you could discuss:
- Sinister Footwear II
- The "trilogy" of Pigmy Twilight/Echidna's Arf/Don't You Ever Wash That Thing
- Guitar solo harmonic language & rhythms (either in general, or picking a few example solos)
- Watermelon in Easter Hay/Black Napkins (not as 'complex' I suppose but still beautiful pieces of music, would be cool to see them broken down and analyzed)
MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G VIDEO thanks for existing !
Well fuckin done man
Thanks for this fantastic analisys, another dozen of views and I will understand some of it :).....no seriously thanks a lot!
This is awesome 👌 Thank you so much
This is simply an amazing analysis!! Well done!! Please more!
also $25 an hour to the Ikettes was very good wages back then - not bad now even
That's about 147 dollars an hour in today's USD yeah
Dude, thanks so much for doing this! Amazing… I wish this was a class when I I was in music school!
Ha, me too!
I hope you do more of these on Frank's music. I am impressed.
Need more of this
Thank you thank you thank you 🙏 Just brilliant ! SUBBED !
This is awesome! So much work put into the theory and the graphics!
Great analysis. Thanks for putting that together.
Superb job! Thank you Tyler. I will be pouring over this for many months to come.
@Tyler Bartram - ENDLICH - FINALLY - I waited for years for news about your fantestic world, Tyler! I really appreciate your work so much - all the best and a big hug from Austria high upon the alps
i´ve noticed your 2 other uploaded vids since 7 years yet. THANKS - pure JOY
Thank you Martin!
excellent
Brilliant analysis of a fearsome tune. Thank you for your hard work and insights. Bravo!
Absolutely incredible content. From the music to the presentation. Unreal. We're unworthy!
That's great !! Thanks !
Goodness, I listen, now, in a whole new way. Thank you for opening a new door and unlocking some other doors. A rung bell can't be unrung.
Whoa....I gotta watch this in sections. One question...do you, and your audience, think that Frank was aware of all this stuff as he composed? I'm not say he didn't have theory but did he have it in mind as he wrote?
Hard to say but I think I’d lean towards no. He did mention that he wouldn’t sit down to figure out his odd time patterns until he had to write it down. It seems like he would always follow his ear first and listening to rehearsal tapes you can hear how strongly that would lead him. For his classical writing I think you could make a much stronger case that he did have that stuff in mind, though.
@@TylerBartram I'd agree with that, you might say he wrote what he heard rather than heard what he wrote! Been listen to FZ since the mid 70s and saw him twice here in London at Hammersmith Odean. Always intrigued by the way he would compose stunning music and overlay it with throwaway lyrics!
This is outstanding! Subbed. Big FZ fan here. Watching / hearing your deconstructions is a glorious pleasure.
If anyone's interested in Frank's explanation of the lyrics to Jazz Party Hats, then check out my interview with him on You Tube, Pauline Butcher interviews Frank Zappa. There are five short segments: politics, parenting, composing, evangelism and a question to me.
this is wonderful...is the steel guitar version at the end available anyplace?
Not right now but I might put the full thing up soon.
@@TylerBartram cool...really appreciate the deep dives into the Zappa canon...working on those 7 note stack thanks to your work...all the best to you
@@DavidBagsby Here is the full version if you’d like to listen ruclips.net/video/my92pPSHHwI/видео.html
Subscribed. My "Eureka" moment with Frank years ago. I was always blown away that there's so much unison playing in the bridge -- side note: Ruth Underwood is from another planet. I had no idea all this other insanity was hiding here. This is a brilliant dive into one of rock's greatest lineups.
I respect the work you put into this. Thanks. Very inspiring
Very nicely done - I'd love to see/hear a similar analysis on Amnerika ...
Very insightful! -- FZ fan since late '60s
at 17:15 you mentionned 'maybe it's a guitar thing'. There's definitely some of that in his music. One example is the outro section of 'echidna's arf of you'. The first quintuplet motif moves up a tritone, then up a major third, then up another tritone, but this time, instead of doing '1-5-1-2-m3', it goes '1-b6-1-2-m3', because it is played with the G and B strings, which are, well, a major third apart, as opposed to a fourth apart compared to every other sets of two strings. So that difference only makes sense if you're a guitar player: it's clearly written as a guitar pattern that you repeat on each set of two strings. Anyways, back to watching the rest of the video! Fantastic stuff, much to digest and learn here, props for the editing as well!
I'm so glad I discovered your channel