@@SchmungussGrunguss its the one similar to the one we got on hardcore, you can notice it on the gamemodes we got on any map and on the events, if you play Badlands 2 or PW2 u can see the eco change.
They need to stop implementing the new eco system, was playing quad till wave 40 and STILL don't even have every single tower placed down AND maxxed due to horrible income, and dont forget the ridiculous enemies either (shotgunner at wave 15, minigunner at wave 30)
Fr, this literally makes the game so much less fun. What was the point in making this garbage eco in the first place.. there is literally nothing good about it. And the new pizza part just feels so tasteless and unfun. Its not as fun as before
@@abdulhadiazman3390 he did a roman salute (or did i give my heart to you (fits the context of the clip more)) and it looked like according to the news, a nazi salute
@@abdulhadiazman3390He did the german dictator salute. (I said it like that so my comment doesnt get potentially blocked.) Idk its kind of dumb tbh because i really doubt that the gesture was supposed to be interpreted that way.
making the executioner plushie have a shield health more than double its health is so evil, not only you need to deal 50% of its hp to start getting money, but also its harder to get the log book.
@thebaconlordking69 sometime gold soldiers work but not all time because those sock puppet have a whopping 6k hp and left and right hand stun make ut harder
that's firey hellish, not western. like the husk, cavalry, undead miners, gunslinger, all very different than those. badlands is gonna be something entirely different, not event enemies.
@@Robserobtortbh not really, most of the enemies were already changed during enemies beta and not a-lot of event enemies could resemble PW2. Though i think some enemies from the intermediate mode could work for PW2, but make sure they are buffed at least.
I actually like that this rework just takes enemies from lunar overtune! Because it fits it quite well, the devs don’t have to put in so much effort and can put time into other things. And now we get to see these enemies and collect their logbooks!
The gamemode feels challenging I love it but the mode needs a little nerf like all enemies are freeze immune that's kinda ridiculous and the economy system but If that's fixed the gamemode would be amazing
@@Earthenchant-u5tThe economy system is the main problem, and the weird balancing. Also, Shotgunner at wave 15 isn’t that bad, but maybe a different enemy would be a better replacement. (Like a summoner enemy with 3,000 health)
@Plague-h2t I mean shotgunner is better in my opinion but yeah the no stun no freeze is quite stupid they need to nerf the mode slightly but not make it easier then intermediate mode
@@Earthenchant-u5t It was meant to be harder than Fallen, but it feels kinda unbalanced. Maybe lower the health of all enemies, remove a lot of powerful modifiers on some (Like bloated, Nimble, Stun immunity and freeze Immunity) and make the enemies give cash equal to their health. (Cuz terrible new Eco system)
This has gotten so insane to the point where u need atleast all squad players to have engineers, or necromancer or any of the dps stuff towers, but hees the thing the tds economy is shit in this gamemode. So this might be one of the hardest mode right now
I’d have to say… the devs definitely went out of their way to make sure this is too hard. Before their respective reworks, wox the fox had 250,000 health, while the fallen king had 150,000 health. Wox had 1.66 times more health than the fallen king, so considering the current fallen king has 200,000 health, I thought 350,000 health was the max for new Wox. Instead, the devs did 450,000 health for wox. I also don’t get why they made literally everything resist stuns, added lead enemies, AND HAVE I HEARD OF THE SHARED CASH SYSTEM ECO SYSTEM BEING REPLACED WITH THE CURRENT ONE? Well, I don’t wanna play Pizza Party now. What about lost souls?
stuns don't even work properly iirc electroshocker and warden can still partially stall them (last I checked). Lead enemies were an AWESOME addition and you can't change my mind. Previously we only had them in hc now they're an actual problem if handled incorrectly. So far it's a balanced difficulty for what a special gamemode should be, what's your level? Also can you explain why the eco system sucks (i haven't gotten a concrete and realistic response just yet)?
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42fnew eco system suck cuz you force to early def while also heavily rely on farm as your main income and unlike fallen mode which has some free wave almost everywave is pretty stressful
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42fThe people complaining about Wox's health and comparing it to fallen king are completely forgetting fallen king has a lot of defense because of his passive abillity. He has almost 400k points of health taking into account that defense is pretty much more health with extra steps, and fallen king is around 30% faster than Wox according to the wiki.
@@annimemeiro pizza party is supposed to be harder then fallen. so does badlands and polluted. thats why they are getting rebalances to make them harder to scale up to the fallen rework
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42f What sucks about the new eco system is that it's a race, the new system gives more money to the player who does more damage instead of giving everyone the same amount as the old one, the old one gave money to all players for damage they inflicted. For example if a soldier that does 1 damage shoots an enemy with 6 hp, in the old system it would give 6 dollars to each player, while in the new system it would give 4-5 to the owner of the soldier and to the rest only 1 dollar.
I’m fine with them adding enemies from lunar overture because most of the enemies fit the theme of pizza party, all of them being stuffed pushes and stuff. The difficulty spike is crazy though holy
the reason people hate the new eco system, including me is that it makes money you would normally get out of killing enemies vanish if you are playing trio or quad with the new eco system it is literally way easier to beat this mode duo or solo
These new enemies feel so out of place lmao, what knights have to do with fnaf Also new eco system sucks, everyone knows that, yet devs keep on implementing it to the game, like why even
No the theme is no longer fnaf its a general halloween gamemode enemies are from past halloween events umbra, knight, and cobalt guard are from solar eclipse event sock puppet, executioner, voodoo dolls, ect from lunar overture
@@annimemeiro theyre completely different when it comes to the theme and they were designed to fit event based on history being showcased in theatre. Citizen plush, knights or cobalt guards just dont fit there, theyre not halloween or animatronic, mimic umbra despite being a plushie still fits to the Mode unlike enemies i Just mentioned. These enemies Just dont belong there and they make pizza party look like its a huge garbage can where youll find a mix of everything
The ghost is not the first hidden enemy (do not reply to this comment I just remembered the ghost was the first hidden enemy, I thought the first hidden was the hidden zoomer lol)
@@TheRizzler-f5o I'm replying anyway to tell you the Hidden, which appears in Easy, Casual, Intermediate, and Molten, has been in the game since release. It was the first hidden enemy.
ghosts, citizen plushs, and the puppet things (forgot what they are called) fit into pizza party but the knights? colbat guards??? and exe plush just.. why? they dont fit in at all
They definitely made it harder than the fallen rework this time, good choice since they're supposed to be special versions of the gamemode. I still don't like this new eco system.
At this point just make a Lunar themed map and call the event lunar awakening or something, I would appreciate it more than reworking Pizza party in lunar act 4 😭
guys new pizza party isnt THAT BAD yes new money system is not good and idk why people are saying getting farms is hard i use suple drops (that gives 1000 cash) guys you just need tower that stuns and good dps tower (and solo is hard maybe imposible idk) you just need to THINK or just watch tutorial
The most hated thing in TDS (New Economy system) got into new gamemode
R.I.P Pizza Party 2022-2025
pizza party was not out until halloween 2022
Me when I pull information out of my ass:
Fyi, pizza party was released on October 31, 2022
No need to be rude @@alex01ftw15 mistakes happens, we are humans lol
Wait what is the new economy system?
@@SchmungussGrunguss its the one similar to the one we got on hardcore, you can notice it on the gamemodes we got on any map and on the events, if you play Badlands 2 or PW2 u can see the eco change.
They need to stop implementing the new eco system, was playing quad till wave 40 and STILL don't even have every single tower placed down AND maxxed due to horrible income, and dont forget the ridiculous enemies either (shotgunner at wave 15, minigunner at wave 30)
This is a tiny piece of the hardcore rework, be scared, T.D.S. fans.
*Literally hardcore rework eco system is going to be bad*
(I guess we already knew about this.)
Fr, this literally makes the game so much less fun. What was the point in making this garbage eco in the first place.. there is literally nothing good about it. And the new pizza part just feels so tasteless and unfun. Its not as fun as before
And it’s kinda dumb how they don’t even give full cash, like why 35$ for 60-75 hp heavies with 25% defense instead of 60$ or 75$
the old eco system was simple and completely fine, im not sure why they had to change it
"Mini rework" my ass. This act 3 pt 2 hardcore boogaloo
Bars 🗣️🔥
bro i won on fisrt try
idk why people are saying its harder bc in my eyes it isnt
@@SWAGOMEN69420yea cause u beaten it ofc but it hard for others
@@SWAGOMEN69420 Same bruh, the Minigunner takes quick kills.
@@SWAGOMEN69420 you shouldn't say easy when you and your teammates used nukes and the molten beast
adding a cyber truck skin right after elon musk did something very questionable is crazy timing
Wait what did he do?
@@abdulhadiazman3390 he did a "nazi salute" (quotation marks because it was to the side, so it really wasn't a nazi salute)
@@abdulhadiazman3390 he did a roman salute (or did i give my heart to you (fits the context of the clip more)) and it looked like according to the news, a nazi salute
@@abdulhadiazman3390something very questionable
@@abdulhadiazman3390He did the german dictator salute. (I said it like that so my comment doesnt get potentially blocked.) Idk its kind of dumb tbh because i really doubt that the gesture was supposed to be interpreted that way.
This is the kind of gamemode that got playtested with admin towers
Tdx must be proud of this rework.
"Part 2 nightmare" ahh gamemode
Tdx expert mode rework better not have a bad eco or ima scream 💀🙏
@Dmanian456I bet this never gonna happen
well, its perpetually in lost souls mode now. so it cant be easy anymore
making the executioner plushie have a shield health more than double its health is so evil, not only you need to deal 50% of its hp to start getting money, but also its harder to get the log book.
Tdx multiplier 1 in wave 69 in endless be like:
@@joselino3625SO TRUE (those are meme enemy's tho lol)
gotta grind badlands for coins before that gets buffed too
Quickdraw Strats gonna skyrocket after Pizza Party rework 🤑
Lunar Overtune Act 3 be like
Act 4
@@FixPlay-kc3xjAct 5
Act 6
Act 32
Act 69
Those who remember the sock puppet
The god damn devil in solo act 3 L.O these mf enter the cube when you don't even notice
@ bro on god I was on wave 14 the last wave solo and out of no where I died to something
@thebaconlordking69 sometime gold soldiers work but not all time because those sock puppet have a whopping 6k hp and left and right hand stun make ut harder
Always losing to them at the boss 😔
@@SentinelTowers i used commander, dj, ace pilot, and SNIPER
They touched the chillest mode to grind and violated it with the new eco system
Imagine they add the narrator’s left hand and right hand boss in pizza party..
Its not mini ITS WOLE OVERHAUL
And badlands will add night 1 hexscape enemys im sure
It's called mini because they only changed the wave structure
yeah, I agree with you on the hexscape cuz they kinda look badlands related. I wonder if polluted will get anything new
@@Robserobtor act 1 enemys?
that's firey hellish, not western. like the husk, cavalry, undead miners, gunslinger, all very different than those. badlands is gonna be something entirely different, not event enemies.
@@Robserobtortbh not really, most of the enemies were already changed during enemies beta and not a-lot of event enemies could resemble PW2. Though i think some enemies from the intermediate mode could work for PW2, but make sure they are buffed at least.
I’m getting PTSD from the new enemies
The proper new enemies that we’ve never saw in the game is prob a continuation of Unfinished Act 3 from Lunar Overture!
Fr. This wouldn't have happened IF THE NARRATOR PAID HIS DAMN CAST.
" New ".
Ngl you sound like a bot@@iiXxCrispiepie_GamingiixX
@@everynameiwantistaken This shit wouldn't happen if the Narrator wasn't more greedy than the average farmer
I actually like that this rework just takes enemies from lunar overtune! Because it fits it quite well, the devs don’t have to put in so much effort and can put time into other things. And now we get to see these enemies and collect their logbooks!
The gamemode feels challenging I love it but the mode needs a little nerf like all enemies are freeze immune that's kinda ridiculous and the economy system but If that's fixed the gamemode would be amazing
@@Earthenchant-u5tThe economy system is the main problem, and the weird balancing.
Also, Shotgunner at wave 15 isn’t that bad, but maybe a different enemy would be a better replacement. (Like a summoner enemy with 3,000 health)
@Plague-h2t I mean shotgunner is better in my opinion but yeah the no stun no freeze is quite stupid they need to nerf the mode slightly but not make it easier then intermediate mode
@@Earthenchant-u5t It was meant to be harder than Fallen, but it feels kinda unbalanced. Maybe lower the health of all enemies, remove a lot of powerful modifiers on some (Like bloated, Nimble, Stun immunity and freeze Immunity) and make the enemies give cash equal to their health. (Cuz terrible new Eco system)
Bro are these alts😂
This has gotten so insane to the point where u need atleast all squad players to have engineers, or necromancer or any of the dps stuff towers, but hees the thing the tds economy is shit in this gamemode. So this might be one of the hardest mode right now
I’d have to say… the devs definitely went out of their way to make sure this is too hard.
Before their respective reworks, wox the fox had 250,000 health, while the fallen king had 150,000 health. Wox had 1.66 times more health than the fallen king, so considering the current fallen king has 200,000 health, I thought 350,000 health was the max for new Wox. Instead, the devs did 450,000 health for wox.
I also don’t get why they made literally everything resist stuns, added lead enemies, AND HAVE I HEARD OF THE SHARED CASH SYSTEM ECO SYSTEM BEING REPLACED WITH THE CURRENT ONE?
Well, I don’t wanna play Pizza Party now. What about lost souls?
stuns don't even work properly iirc electroshocker and warden can still partially stall them (last I checked).
Lead enemies were an AWESOME addition and you can't change my mind. Previously we only had them in hc now they're an actual problem if handled incorrectly.
So far it's a balanced difficulty for what a special gamemode should be, what's your level?
Also can you explain why the eco system sucks (i haven't gotten a concrete and realistic response just yet)?
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42fnew eco system suck cuz you force to early def while also heavily rely on farm as your main income and unlike fallen mode which has some free wave almost everywave is pretty stressful
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42fThe people complaining about Wox's health and comparing it to fallen king are completely forgetting fallen king has a lot of defense because of his passive abillity. He has almost 400k points of health taking into account that defense is pretty much more health with extra steps, and fallen king is around 30% faster than Wox according to the wiki.
@@annimemeiro pizza party is supposed to be harder then fallen. so does badlands and polluted. thats why they are getting rebalances to make them harder to scale up to the fallen rework
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42f What sucks about the new eco system is that it's a race, the new system gives more money to the player who does more damage instead of giving everyone the same amount as the old one, the old one gave money to all players for damage they inflicted. For example if a soldier that does 1 damage shoots an enemy with 6 hp, in the old system it would give 6 dollars to each player, while in the new system it would give 4-5 to the owner of the soldier and to the rest only 1 dollar.
I’m fine with them adding enemies from lunar overture because most of the enemies fit the theme of pizza party, all of them being stuffed pushes and stuff. The difficulty spike is crazy though holy
all this for a reward increase of 200 coins, are we fucking serious tds
Yes we are
literally everything “new” in this gamemode are just enemies from lunar overture event…
Guys chill. We love doing challenge don’t we? Even it’s a reusing overture it’s good tho. But they should buff eco system lol
ahh yes lunar overtune 2.0 💀
Tds now is just "no more money for yall support player and we capping dps player's money too"
Now we wait for them to add 1 dmg shield to wox
the reason people hate the new eco system, including me is that it makes money you would normally get out of killing enemies vanish if you are playing trio or quad
with the new eco system it is literally way easier to beat this mode duo or solo
this update is secretly act 4
Genuinely the thing I hate most is the new lighting. Pizza Party isn't the only map but it is SO dark to the point I can't see most enemies.
These new enemies feel so out of place lmao, what knights have to do with fnaf
Also new eco system sucks, everyone knows that, yet devs keep on implementing it to the game, like why even
how does it suck exactly?
They not actually, they are living haunted plushie or hack robot so it fit the entertainment restaurant theme
The knights are plushies, just like the mimic umbras that have been in pizza party since its release. How come does it not fit the mode?
No the theme is no longer fnaf
its a general halloween gamemode
enemies are from past halloween events
umbra, knight, and cobalt guard are from solar eclipse event
sock puppet, executioner, voodoo dolls, ect from lunar overture
@@annimemeiro theyre completely different when it comes to the theme and they were designed to fit event based on history being showcased in theatre. Citizen plush, knights or cobalt guards just dont fit there, theyre not halloween or animatronic, mimic umbra despite being a plushie still fits to the Mode unlike enemies i Just mentioned. These enemies Just dont belong there and they make pizza party look like its a huge garbage can where youll find a mix of everything
So this rework is like the Fallen Rework. If what i suspect is true; the other special modes will be similar to the Fallen Rework
3:49 Egg, you are not tripping. The clown is from 2019 Halloween event, as well as Ghost ( first hidden enemy)
The ghost is not the first hidden enemy (do not reply to this comment I just remembered the ghost was the first hidden enemy, I thought the first hidden was the hidden zoomer lol)
@@TheRizzler-f5o I'm replying anyway to tell you the Hidden, which appears in Easy, Casual, Intermediate, and Molten, has been in the game since release. It was the first hidden enemy.
@@crizblu6615 actually the ghost was the first hidden enemy
the two specifically are the variants from 2023 Halloween
By saying “first hidden enemy” I meant in a reworked pizza party gamemode
I would say this is way easier than hard-core but still neck and neck to polluted wasteland and that is only because you can use consumables
I like how it went from Having too much Moneys and nothing to spend it on the final waves to Not enough Money to max Everything in a quad Lol
Theres a difference between a fun good challenge and just stupid difficult.
I hated when quicks and speedies were changed to have more health than the normal and abnormals
Glad fire work tech exists without it I would not have won
first we got resurrected enemy from tb,and then more of them in tdx...NOW EVEN THIZ GOT IT TOO?????
When the lead modifier is finally being used
(other than hardcore)
the difficult increase is good! BUT WHY THE HELL WE GET SO TINY TIME PER WAVE TO BEAT EACH WAVE?
"Dont bother with no stun" dont use FREEZER, but ELECTROSHOKER might still be good" What did my brain just listen to
Lunar overture flash back 💀
THEY SHOULD BUFF THE REWARDS AND NERF WAVE 40 STRUCTURE ENEMIES (except my furry wox the fox)
Bro they simply re-used basically every enemy from the Lunar Overtune 💀
Just HP scaling jesters is a *MASSIVE BUFF*
These type of new enemies are the enemies from the acts
This mode being to hard after they added lunar overtune enemy’s rabies that Maby act 3 was too hard Maby not because of the map but because the enemy
weird how every enemy has no stun and the gamemode unlocks warden
Warden buff soon?
@@RISINGphoenix0982 Warden rework leak lol
Well the fact that they use lunar overture event enemies makes me quite disappointed but pizza party was added at Halloween so idk
did the developers playtest this at all???
why wouldn't they
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42f it just seems like they released this too quickly and didn't have enough time to balance it
It got playtested with the old eco system in mind. That’s why this seems as if they spammed mecha base and war machine for testing
no they didnt
yes, its easy. it's supposed to be harder than fallen.
0:15 agreed. Why even add that as a skin.
they were never advertised as new, just returning. Also why is cyber milibase embarassing?
Looks bad, and elon musk is controversial
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42f you're such a glazer replying to every single piece of criticism 😂😂
In defense of dstrawberry, I originally criticized the devs for adding back event enemies. I have since changed my opinion on that
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42f if you know about the current stuff regarding elon then its self-explanatory
I literally finished fallen warden quest yesterday. I am so lucky bro
the new eco system was just overkill man
Thew new eco is shit seriously its the only reason its hard
Same for me here
Just solo it.
Not gonna defend to get more money from enemies with this one🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️
If they needed more fnaf enemy ideas they could’ve just asked Markiplier.
Luckly i beat this as a level 28 guy 2 days ago :O
At this point why not change the soundtrack from welcome to the party to stardust?
I can sense hardcore rework difficulty from here
btw "ghost" is from the Halloween 2020 its not new its old
Imagine badlands and Pw2 after the rework 😭
I managed to do it trio first try. This isn't that bad. Use pursuit+electro/freezer to handle sock puppets
All they had to do was not add the shitty eco system and the reception for this would be 1000x better
The rework will be fine if they fix or remove the new Eco system
I first try it on trio, idk how i did it but the beginning felt easy, but the last 5 wave we were almost dead
ghosts, citizen plushs, and the puppet things (forgot what they are called) fit into pizza party but the knights? colbat guards??? and exe plush just.. why? they dont fit in at all
They used act 3 enemies and got act 3 results. Literally pre nerf act 3 with a normal path
They definitely made it harder than the fallen rework this time, good choice since they're supposed to be special versions of the gamemode. I still don't like this new eco system.
reaper is from hexscape event i think
nvm it appeared in act 2 lunar overture
why are people saying it's hard when i managed to win trio when one person was afk until the last two waves (no nukes either)
i think it does need some changes but i would say this rework is good
BUT PLEASE ADD DIALOG
better get quickdraw soon before it gets buffed
Dude I was using a double farm strat and still didn't make enough money to max my cowboys.
At least we get new log books
"WHAT IF THE NARRATOR CAME BACK" ahh rework
Why is the description "archer if it was good" ?
archer if it was good
im watching this video on full screen i cant see damn
We have fallen mode revamp!
Also fallen mode:
i think polluted wasteland 2 is not harder than hardcore its actually pizza party rework
They need to nerf Executioner Plush.
Maybe make it slower or less shield hp
Bro skipped the sock monster scary thing
ghost is a enemie from lunar overture act 1
Idea Enemy Pizza Party:
Reaper Plush:
Health:
30000(Solo)
37500(Duo And Trio)
40000(Quad)
CashGiven:💵27500 when death
Defense:🛡️25%
WalkSpeed:Slow
Attributes:
😵💫Stun Immune.
🔥Burn Immune.
🥶Freeze Immune.
Ability:
(1)
Plush Summon:4 Cobalt Guard and 5 Shotgunner.
(2)
Plush Reap:Slash stun tower.
Never cook again🗣🔥🔥🔥
Cook again 🔥🔥🔥🔥 this should replace the actual reaper fr, a plushie reaper would be sick for pzp
@ lol?
Better get quickdraw before badland got rework
At this point just make a Lunar themed map and call the event lunar awakening or something, I would appreciate it more than reworking Pizza party in lunar act 4 😭
bro they need to nerf the hp of pizza party bc its impossible to do lost souls
There 11 new enemy in pizza party
This shit would not be a hard if the eco system gets change
Wait wait wait. Next week is badlands 3 rework? Whats the week after that polluted wastestelands 3?
@@The_American_Gamer999 hardcore rework after polluted wasteland, they put player at dead bed with this lol
@TheLiems1 💀
tds needs to stop thinking remake/revamped= harder
guys new pizza party isnt THAT BAD yes new money system is not good and idk why people are saying getting farms is hard i use suple drops (that gives 1000 cash) guys you just need tower that stuns and good dps tower (and solo is hard maybe imposible idk) you just need to THINK or just watch tutorial
Alot of enemies are stun immune the executioner has so much shield
wox has 2 entries in the index now
*the shotgunner use to have 3.5k health I think and I think I might come earlier*
Thank god I beat it before this update.
Lost souls looking fine
microing purple drop the beat like youre microing tb dj
Its the HC rework because it use all traits but in one better way
What is necrosis new dps with buff?
Why is lost souls still showing as being active
They just slapped old enemies in bruh
Epic
epic
Pizza parry rework ❌
Nightmare mode ✅
wait how are people going to beat lost souls