"YOU ARE THE CHURCH!" | Orthodox Mother Ilaria speaks about life.
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Late Mother Ilaria, Orthodox Abbes (+2003) talks about monastic life, the sin in the world and about that we are the Church.
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Brothers and Sisters we are the Church! ☦︎
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Mother Ilaria used to live in monastery of Musotiste in Kosovo and Metohija, it was destroyed by Albanians. She always carried a rifle when doing work in the field to protect her sisters.
Carried a rifle?!?!? 😦😦😦
Did this women, then, live all of her religious life in what is now Kosovo and Metohija?
@@cjjrtoronto Yes. it is not "now" Kosovo and Metohija, it was always named that way, for at least 1000 years.
@@jaisonsimon yes, albanians destroyed serbian orthodox monasteries and churches, they had to protect themselves
@@jaisonsimon well, what would you do?
As a lifetime atheist who is starting to become a believer in the orthodox faith, and as a psychologist well versed into the mental health crisis in western countries thanks to the acceptance of debauchery as normal, I have to say that this is the most powerful video I have ever seen in my 24 years in this world.
May God bless you
An update: months after this comment, I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour and Im a catechumen in my local Orthodox Church. Dont stop doing what you're doing, these videos can help guide people to the right path. Bless you.
@@Castillo525 Wonderfull to hear! God bless you
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I’ve been uplifted by this Orthodox Nun.
I pray the Pope in Rome starts heeding these holy voices from the East, instead of the evil ones from the West.
Sorry, but could you please explain to me the evil voices of the west?
@@alanlienhard4276 the ones organizing the Synod on Synodality, the ones suppressing the Traditional Mass, the ones soft on abortion and gay marriage, etc.
Cardinal Cupich is a good example.
@@goodlyantics.5243 Thank you i didn't think about that in the moment. God bless you
@Wisdom of a Recluse East will prevail, Satan is holding West and Vatican beneath his feet, West is being destroyed by infinite freedoms :D
@Wisdom of a Recluse So you are not part of the holy church?
That was so interesting. The way she just keeps talking and talking without pause, staring at the ground as if she had it memorized. Wow
I am amazed by the same, but when I see her look I think to myself she speaks as if the holy spirit is talking through her.
@@MrDextrator she is so wise and probably attained a level of holiness through her lifestyle and dedication we can only dream of achieving.
Holy Spirit Speaks☦️
NEVER EVER GIVE UP ON OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST,………. WHY?,……. BECAUSE HE NEVER GAVE UP ON US,……. AMEN
What a lost world we're living in now,where sins is justified and glory. I pray to those who are lost,will find the way. Those who in dark,will found the light. Those who hasn't know Him and love Him,shall see and embrace His love.
Amen!
Nothing beautiful on this world like the orthodoxy church and it's holy fathers....
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Our sweetheart! They pray day and night to make up for our lack of prayers so that we too can be protected. What a beautiful enlightenment.
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Благодарим. 🍀💜💜
I would rather die than give up on Christ and live
As a Catholic I cannot do anything but admire the depth and wisdom of her words.
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watching this during hard times right now at 1 am, hits hard
Relatable brother, relatable.
beautiful...a life in fear of God has lead to much wisdom. May she receive an Incorruptible Crown ☦
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"I will speak about life" proceeds to explain meaning for the church, simply amazing !!! This is the sort of folks who aren't provided a space to practice their faith but actually creates that space for everyone to be welcomes into. A saint mother Ilaria is.
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God bless you, sister.
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This was beautifully said, God bless all of you watching!!!
Amen!! Glory glory glory to the Lord of Hosts!! Glory and dominion be yours forever and ever!! ☦️☦️☦️☦️☦️
This is beautiful... Great editing.
You have a gift from God to make these edits. Thank you and may Christ keep you
Gottes Segen an euch Liebe Geschwister in Jesus Christus und frohe Weihnachten und ein glückliches neues Jahr 2023
True
Glory to God !
Love is love had another meaning 😥
Wonderfull. Thank you, brother.
I greatly admire her wisdom and her dedication and devotion! Simply inspiring!
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After a long time
Missed your content
This woman speaks facts God bless her !
There is only one Problem in the whole World....Love is the most misunderstanding Thing . I am self a Catholic Christ but my dear orthodox Brothers and Sisters I want tell you Keep strong in your Faith !!!!!!!
We miss you 😢 post again please
Легче слушать, чем читать - до чего удивительное чувство единения
Yeah for those who u derstand the languaje
God bless you my Brother in Christ, may God's Grace and Mercy be upon you!!!☦︎
Mother pray for me that I will be like you all in Jesus Christ name
I’m gonna subscribe
Yesterday I met a women around 60 in the subway.
She wore a headscarf but not like islamic style. No front cover, only one layer. Looked quite friendly.
Probably Coptic Orthodox as she was speaking Arabic.
She was talking on the phone, and I reminded her when the train was at the final stop. She smiled at me.
@rightwingcondor - Bro I love your videos. Thanks so much for all your hard work. So appreciated!! Bringing strength through christ in hard times.
Wonderful
Yes...bishop Emmanuel...THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PROTECT U...U R absolutely right bishop no peace in Israel till they believe THE LORD JESUS CHRIST BEEN CRUCIFIED...
So beautiful ☦️❤️
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I noticed the scenes of the monk was praying, where he would fall to his knees and bow his head to the floor, then stand up and repeat the process. It kind of reminds me of the way Muslims pray. Also, the headscarves of the women in the wedding scenes is very similar to Islamic head coverings.
yes bcs islam took it from orthodox christianity.
Muslims just kneel thats all. Orthodox Christians just don’t bow and kneel they do it repeatedly not just to bow down to the Lord but to weaken the flesh. Kneeling won’t do it, its like sitting down with ur knees bent.
Look at serious Orthodox Churches. Nearly all the women cover their hair. It is from the old ways in the Abrahamic faiths.
ICXC NIKA
God, marriage is so hard!!! Just hit me like the ocean! God, won't you do it? I need a wave I can ride!!!
Некоторые слова понятны, 👍
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Whats the chant in the background and singer
I have a question is this chanal for oriental or eastern orthodox just to know or just all orthodoxs
Eastern Orthodox
Its for all orthodoxs
It‘s a Eastern Orthodox Channel with mainly Eastern Orthodox content. Check out the Channel description!
Here is something most dont know.
Clement of Alexandria in Stromata book 6:5= "Apostle Paul will show, saying: "Take also the Hellenic books, read the Sibyl (prophecy over 13,000 years ago), how it is shown that God is one (they believed in 1 God), and how the future is indicated (they prophesied 1st and others changed it). Or as other translate to sum it up as "you will find our Lord Jesus Christ written more clearly by the Greeks"
Historian Church father Bishop "Eusebius of Caesarea says that the first years after the passing of Jesus Christians were considered the Hellenized people who opposed circumcision and followed Greek customs."
& on omitted bible text which stopped short with continues "The hour is fulfilled that the Son of Man should be glorified. For Greece alone begets man, a heavenly plant, and a divine plant, a divine system, a science that is aptly understood."
And remember the Church includes all faithful Christian believers who worship the Holy Trinity, not just the Eastern Orthodox
I don't understand this monastic fear of the demons. If God is greater than the demons he will keep the faithful. If he loves his own flock he will protect them from the wolf.
God is greater but this world is a sinking ship manipulated by "prince of this world(Satan)", it's a cost of free will... Church is a saving boat.
Paul warned us about this anti-church.
1 Timothy 4:1-5 ESV -
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
1 Corinthians 7
7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
@@Draco_7 This is entirely voluntary just as every statement made by Paul about marriage.
@@Draco_7 Flee this anti-church.
@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodin1559 search where your History and where protentatism came from. May God show you Mercy and show you the true path.
@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodin1559 I answered you with a Bible verse but you choose to cherry pick what benefits your flesh not your soul. Choosing the easy way is laziness not being smart when it comes to faith. You can not outsmart your way to heaven. Forget this falacy that you are saved and Jesus paid for your future sins. Jesus paid for past sins and opened the gates to heaven so you can DO GOOD, FOLLOW HIS LAWS and have a chance to heaven. Be Well
An orthodox life does not give you eternal life, that comes through Jesus Christ and his works alone, not your works!
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Good works are an actual participation in gratis (grace), an actual experience (living out) of faith. They are a co-operation/co-energising with God’s works, but they do not earn us salvation, for we are doing something with God that we receive from Him.
So whilst salvation is not earned, works are still indeed salvific in a sense as the Holy scriptures say (2 Cor. 5:10). Here, it is said that we are judged according to deeds done in the body, and so, we all get Grace from God for good works (they perfect faith and open us to grace).
If we, however, have pride (by thinking that these good works of ours are earning our salvation), we then forfeit the Grace that those good works would give. Us working with God through good works, us freely loving back within our Union with Christ, is salvific.
Now, you can only come to know Christ (as He has always been professed) and develop a complete relationship with Him, in the Orthodox Church.
The Orthodox Church is the Ark of salvation that Christ has established. Don't be outside of it!
What is your authoritative basis for interpreting scriptures the way that you do? Why should the Orthodox, who have a lineage of Bishops that can trace their roots back to the infallible authority of Christ, listen to some RUclips guys cherry-picked scripture over the fullness of the scriptures in context of the church established by Christ? Read John 6 in its entirety, It's about the Eucharist and how only those who continue eating the body and drinking the blood of Christ will have everlasting life. That is true worship and how you are saved.
Yeah...removing 7 books from the New Testament and telling us about your ''sola scriptura'' 🙄. Begone, heretic 😌👉
Monophysites are not Orthodox nor are they in the Church. @UnitedOrthodoxy, non chalcedonianism does not save
Who claimed they are in communion with the Eastern Orthodox Church?
So many untruths in this short video. Ideas of Prayers being defiled by a single thought;
when infact scripture says the heart of man is CONTINUALLY evil from youth onward.
The Ignorance of even good people; will help Satan accomplish his goals. By orthodoxy and catholicism;
Faith was made to seem unattainable. Many are scared to go to church; thinking they must be perfect.
Jesus hated clergymen (pharisees: orthodox), rejected pious elitists (Sadducees: catholics); but he loved the
simpleminded sinful believer (laymen: Protestants).
You are so delusional it's sad.
We can either believe this Orthodox monk or the apostle Paul.
1 Timothy 4:1-5 ESV -
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
okay, heretic
And (remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden and unseen.
Never did I say to them aught except what You (Allah) did command me to say: 'Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.' And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a Witness to all things. (This is a great admonition and warning to the Christians of the whole world
Not a single early source backs this up
false.
Heretic
YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah started out as one of *many* patron deities before becoming "God of the universe" as monotheism started taking shape and was conflated with the Canaanite gods El and Baal.
According to critical scholarship YHWH *was* a son of El before inheriting the top spot in the pantheon and El's wife Athirat (Asherah).
The original god of the Israelite patriarchs was the Canaanite god El who the war/storm god YHWH from the southern Levant was later conflated with.
Basically, YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah is fictional just like the other hundreds of fictional gods from ancient Canaan that he shared the region with.
*Ugarit and the Bible*
Many people are familiar with the texts found at Qumran, commonly known as the Dead Sea Scrolls, in the 1940s. But fewer people have heard of the Ugarit findings, which began to be unearthed in the late 1920s. Both discoveries greatly increased our knowledge and understanding of Biblical texts and also of the history surrounding the evolution of Judaism and Christianity.
The Dead Sea Scrolls impacted both the Old and New Testament interpretations, while the findings at Ugarit impacted only the Old Testament. *These texts and architectural inscriptions predate the Hebrew settlement at Canaan, but interestingly, they mention some of the same gods that appear in the Hebrew religious writings, produced after the Hebrew contact with the Ugarit region. The most significant god mentioned is El.* In one temple inscription he is said to be the father of Ba’al. In other mentions, he is even the father of Yahweh.
In the Old Testament, Ba’al is associated with the Canaanites. And he is described as the focus of their religious worship in those stories-while El is described as being another name for Yahweh, the Hebrew patron god. *In reality, however, based on the discoveries at Ugarit (the land called Canaan in the Bible), El is clearly the father of the gods in much the same way that Zeus is the head of the gods on Olympus in Greek mythology. And Yahweh is not another name for El, but a separate deity.* Like Zeus, El headed a pantheon. He was not only the father of mankind, but the leader of the Ugarit gods. *His pantheon, in Ugarit, is called the* ***Elohim*** *(literally, the plural of El).*
Using the book of Genesis as an example, the best scholarly estimates date it back to somewhere between 950 and 500 BC. *It appears that the writings were composed in two styles, one style preferring to refer to god as El and the other using YHWH (or Yahweh).* Eventually these texts came together into the form we have today, sometime around 450 BC. *Just to give some perspective, the best documented time in the Ugarit history was between 1450 and 1200 BC.*
According to many modern apologists, El is simply another name for god, or even a generic word for “god” used by the Hebrews; and Elohim is simply another form of El. However, Bible translators do translate Elohim as plural in some instances and do translate El to be a proper noun in some instances. Some apologists defend a wholly singular usage of Elohim by pointing to the inconsistency with which Elohim is used with singular verb forms; however, this does not rule out the very real (and likely) potential that as monotheism evolved out of polytheism, the Hebrew texts were adjusted to correct for this problem (as we discussed the evolution of the book of Genesis in the above paragraph). ***However, it does seem oddly coincidental-and difficult to overlook-that the Hebrews had significant contact with Canaan and then, some years afterward, wrote out a Hebrew religious mythology using a name for god that parallels the Ugarit mythology’s chief deity.*** *It is also odd that Elohim appears in Ugarit texts as a clearly plural form of El, and then later in a sometimes confused singular/plural fashion in the Hebrew texts.*
*The important question becomes, then: Is there any reason beyond the contact with Canaan to view the Hebrew deity as being synonymous with the Canaanite god El? The answer is “yes.”* There are parallels between the two gods. For example, if we look at more of the attributes of El in the Ugarit texts, we find that El had a consort, Asherah *(who was also, occasionally, recorded as the consort to Yahweh).* This would appear to distance the Hebrew El from the Ugarit El then, if there is no mention of the Hebrews combining El with Asherah. *However, there is mention in the Hebrew texts that illustrates that Asherah was connected with El in the minds of the Hebrews as well as in their worship. Twice in Jeremiah (chapter 7 and chapter 44), she is referred to as the Queen of Heaven, and it is clearly indicated that the Hebrews were worshipping her in those instances.* Also, in 2 Kings 18, it is noted that her objects of worship (the Asherah poles) were removed from the “high places” of worship to El/Yahweh.
*There is no doubt that as the Hebrews moved from polytheism, into henotheism, and ultimately into monotheism, that they adjusted their religious practices accordingly.* It is not surprising that the worship of Asherah was ultimately condemned, discouraged, and forbidden. *But what can’t be ignored is the fact that the Hebrews did acknowledge Asherah. They did worship her.* And they did associate her with El by placing her symbols in the same temples of worship. ***If Hebrews did not adopt the older Ugarit El, with which they were surely familiar, then it is very odd that Asherah also appears in their religious texts and worship.***
I would never underestimate the apologist’s ability to find a perspective that can reinterpret this data to make it less problematic. ***However, the clear and simple explanation is this: The Hebrews interacted with Ugarit, adopted their pantheon, and their religion evolved, as all religions do through time, to become a uniquely Hebrew monotheism.***
Google *"The Atheist Experience™: Ugarit and the Bible"*
Watch Professor Christine Hayes who lectures on the Hebrew Bible at Yale University. Watch lecture 2 from 40:40 to 41:50 minutes, lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards, lecture 8 from 12:00 to 17:30 minutes and lecture 12 from 34:30 minutes onwards.
Watch *"Pagan Origins of Judaism"* by Sigalius Myricantur and read the description in the video to see the scholarship the video is based on.
Watch *"How Monotheism Evolved"* by Sigalius Myricantur and watch up to at least 21:40.
Watch *"Atheism - A History of God (The Polytheistic Origins of Christianity and Judaism)"*
(By a former theist)
Watch *"The Origins of Yahweh"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica.
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In addition, look up the below articles.
*"Jews and Arabs Descended from Canaanites - Biblical Archaeology Society."*
("The study in Cell not only establishes that the ancient Israelites were ***descended from the Canaanites,*** but also establishes that the Canaanite people across the separate city-states of the southern Levant, and over a period of 1,500 years, were a genetically cohesive people.")
*"The Canaanites weren't annihilated, they just 'moved' to Lebanon - The Times of Israel."*
*"Ancient Canaanite religion explained - **everything.explained.today**"*
*"Archeology of the Hebrew Bible - NOVA - PBS"*
("Many scholars now think that *most of the early Israelites were originally Canaanites, displaced Canaanites,* displaced from the lowlands, from the river valleys, displaced geographically and then displaced ideologically.")
*"Origins of Judaism explained - **everything.explained.today**"*
("According to the current academic historical view, the origins of Judaism lie in the Bronze Age amidst polytheistic ancient Semitic religions, ***specifically evolving out of Ancient Canaanite polytheism,*** then co-existing with Babylonian religion, and syncretizing elements of Babylonian belief into the worship of Yahweh as reflected in the early prophetic books of the Hebrew Bible. (The Torah)".
*Refer to the bibliography at the bottom of the page)*
*"Canaanite languages - Britannica"*
("Group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including ***Hebrew,*** Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic.")
*"The Gods and Goddesses of Canaan | Essay | The Metropolitan Museum of Art | Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History"*
*"El - New World Encyclopedia"*
(Refer to the section "El Outside the Bible" and the fact that *most of the early Israelites were originally indigenous or displaced Canaanites)*
*"El (deity) explained - **everything.explained.today**"*
(Refer to section "Ugarit and the Levant" and the fact that *most of the ancient Israelites were originally indigenous or displaced Canaanites* and see how YHWH later conflated with El (Yahweh-El(ohim)) is fictional)
*"God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible - Almost."*
(Pay attention to whose wife Asherah (Athirat) is in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts and how she became the wife of YHWH/Yahweh)
*"Yahweh's Divorce from the Goddess Asherah in the Garden of Eden - Mythology Matters."*
*"Married Deities: Asherah and Yahweh in Early Israelite Religion - Yahweh Elohim."*
*"Asherah, God's Wife in Ancient Israel. Part IV - theyellowdart"*
*"The Gates of Ishtar - Anath in the Elephantine Papyri"*
(It appears in addition to Asherah (Athirat) being the consort of Yahweh it also appears some Israelites also viewed the Canaanite goddess Anat(h) as Yahweh's consort)
*"Excerpt from “Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan” by John Day - Lehi's Library."*
*"The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins"* based on the *majority scholarly consensus.*
(Written by Thom Stark who is a Christian)
*"Michael Heiser: A Unique Species? - Religion at the Margins"*
(A second response to Michael Heiser)
*"The Syncretization of Yahweh and El : reddit/AcademicBiblical"*
(For a good summary of all of the above articles)
In the Old Testament there appears the concept of Yahweh’s having a heavenly court, the sons of God. They are referred to variously as the ‘sons of God’ (bene ha ‘elohim, Gen 6.2, 4; Job 1.6, 2.2; or bene ‘elohim, Job 38.7), the ‘sons of gods’ (bene ‘elim, Pss. 29.1, 89.7 [ET 6]) or the ‘sons of the Most High’ (bene ‘elyon, Ps. 82.6). *It is also generally agreed that we should read ‘sons of God’ (bene ‘elohim) for ‘sons of Israel’ in Deut. 32.8 (see below).*
There are further numerous places where the heavenly court is referred to without specific use of the expressions ‘sons of God(s)’ or ‘sons of the Most High’. Thus, the heavenly court is mentioned in connection with the first human(s) (Gen 1.26, 3.22; Job 15.7-8) or elsewhere in the primaeval history (Gen. 11.7; cf. Gen 6.2 above), and in the context of the divine call or commission to prophecy (1 Kgs 22.19-22; Isa 40.3,6; Jer. 23.18, 22; cf. Amos 3.7). We also find it referred to in connection with the guardian gods or angels of the nations (Isa.24.21; Ps. 82.1; Ecclus 17.17; Jub. 15.31-32; cf. Deut 32.8 and Ps. 82.6 above; implied in Dan 10.13, 20; 12.1). Apart from the isolated references to the divine assembly on the sacred mountain in Isa 14.13 and to personified Wisdom in the divine assembly in Ecclus 24.2, the other references to the heavenly court are more general (Zech. 1.10-11, 3.7, 14.5; Ps. 89.6-8 [ET 17], 7.10, 21, 25, 27, 8.10-13; cf. Job 1.6, 2.2, 38.7 and Pss. 29.1, 89.7 [ET 6] above). Just as an earthly king is supported by a body of courtiers, so Yahweh has a heavenly court. *Originally, these were gods, but as monotheism became absolute, so these were demoted to the status of angels.*
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*It is in connection with the Canaanite god El and his pantheon of gods, known as the ‘sons of El’, that a direct relationship with the Old Testament is to be found. That this is certain can be established from the fact that both were* ***seventy*** *in number.* At Ugarit we read in the Baal myth of ‘the ***seventy*** sons of Asherah (Athirat)’ (sb’m. bn. ‘atrt, KTU 1.4. VI.46). Since Asherah was El’s consort, this therefore implies that El’s sons were ***seventy*** in number. *Now Deut. 32.8, which is clearly dependent on this concept,* declares, ‘When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of men, he fixed the bounds of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God’. The reading ‘sons of God’ (bene ‘elohim) has the support of the Qumran fragment, 4QDeut, the LXX, Symmachus, Old Latin and the Syro-Hexaplaric manuscript, Camb. Or. 929. *This is clearly the original reading, to be preferred to the MT’s ‘sons of Israel’ (bene yisra’el), which must have arisen as a deliberate alteration on the part of a scribe who did not approve of the polytheistic overtones of the phrase ‘sons of God’.* Interestingly, it is known that the Jews believed there to be ***seventy*** nations on earth, so that the sons of God were accordingly also ***seventy*** in number. This emerges from the table of the nations in Genesis 10, where there are ***seventy*** nations, and from the later Jewish apocalyptic concept according to which there were ***seventy*** guardian angels of the nations (Targum Pseudo-Jonathon on Deut 32.8; 1 En. 89.59-77, 90.22-27). This view, which I have defended previously, seems eminently reasonable.
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*Finally, it is interesting to note that the Old Testament never refers to the heavenly court as ‘the sons of Yahweh’.* As we have seen above, apart from one instance of bene ‘elyon, we always find the ‘sons of God’, with words for God containing the letter s ‘l (bene ha ‘elohim, bene ‘elohim, bene ‘elim). *This finds a ready explanation in their origin in the sons of the Canaanite god El.*
Eventually, of course, the name El simply became a general word for ‘God’ in the Old Testament, and so it is found many times.
*"Excerpt from “Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan” by John Day | Lehi's Library"*
Nevertheless, the historical reconstruction that El was the chief god of the Israelites is not indebted only to the testimony of the (rather late) biblical witness of P. *Numerous biblical texts attest to the fact that the titles, functions, and the imagery associated with the Canaanite god El, as revealed by the Ugaritic texts and the Canaanite myth of Elkunirša, were assimilated into the profile of the deity YHWH.* According to the Ugaritic texts, El was known for his *wisdom* (e.g., KTU2 1.4.V.65[6]) and *great age* (’ab šnm, *“Father of Years,”* and drd, *“Ageless One,”* in KTU2 1.4.IV.24 and 1.10.III.6, respectively),[7] his *compassionate nature* (lţpn il dp’id, *“Kind El, the Compassionate One,”* e.g., KTU2 1.16.IV.9), his role as *father of the gods and humanity* (’ab ’adm, *“father of humanity,”* KTU2 1.14..III.47, and bny bnwt, *“creator of creatures,”* KTU2 1.17.I.24) and *creator of the cosmos.* [8] El was the *divine King* (e.g., KTU2 1.2.III.5-6) and the *head of the pantheon or divine council* (referred to variously as the dr ’il, *“circle of El/Family of El,”* KTU2 1.15.III.19; mpħrt bn ’il, *“the assembly of the sons of El,”* KTU2 1.65.3; bn ’il, *“the sons of El,”* KTU2 1.40.33, 41; pħr kbbm, *“assembly of the stars,”* KTU2 1.10.I.3-4; ‘dt ’ilm, *“assembly of the gods,”* KTU2 1.15.II.7; cf. KTU2 1.2.I; 1.3V; 1.4 IV-V) which met at the sacred mountain. *His consort was the goddess Athirat who bore him seventy sons* (šb‘m bn ’atrt, *“the seventy sons of Athirat,”* KTU2 1.4.VI.46). El was also known for his *divine patronage and blessing of progeny to humans* (as in the Epic of Kirta; see, for example, KTU2 1.14.III.46-51), for his *appearances to humans in dreams* (e.g., KTU2 1.14.I.35-37), as *being a healer* (KTU2 1.16.V-VI), and for his *dwelling at the sacred mountain* (e.g., KTU2 1.2.III.5-6) at the *sources of the mythical rivers* (KTU2 1.2.III.4; 1.3.V.6; 1.4.IV.20-22; 1.17.V.47-48) in a *tent* (KTU2 1.2.III.5; 1.3.V.8; 1.4.IV.24; 1.17.V.49; c.f. the Canaanite myth Elkunirša which *describes El’s abode as a tent[9]).[10]*
*To underscore the fact that terminology and imagery originally used for the god El was adopted by the Israelites in their descriptions of YHWH,* the following brief summary might be placed in comparison to the discussion of El above: YHWH is an *aged, patriarchal deity* (Ps. 102:28; Job 36:26; Is. 40:28; Dan. 7.9-14, 22), *a father* (Deut. 32:6; Is. 63:16; 64:7; Jer. 3:4, 19; 31:9, etc.), *merciful and gracious* (Ex. 34:6; Jon. 4:2; Joel 2:13; Ps. 8615; 103:8; 145:8, etc.), *a divine patron who bestows the blessing of progeny upon Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,* often manifesting himself in *dreams or visions, a healer* (Gen. 20:17; Num. 12:13; 2 Kgs. 20:5, 8; Ps. 107:20, etc.), who *dwells in a tent* (Ps. 15:1; 27:6; 91:10; 132:3) *amidst the heavenly waters* (Ps. 47:5; 87; Is. 33: 20-22; Ez. 47:1-12, etc.), the *creator of the cosmos,* who is enthroned as *heavenly King* in the *divine council* (1 Kgs. 22:19; Is. 6:1-8; cf. Ps. 29:1-2; 82; 89: 5-8, etc.) on the *sacred mount of assembly* (e.g., Is. 14:13). Additionally, in much Israelite religious practice throughout the monarchic period, *YHWH had a divine consort, the goddess Asherah, the Hebrew equivalent of Ugaritic Athirat.[11]* (Originally the wife of El)
Google *"When Jehovah Was Not the God of the Old Testament. Part II - theyellowdart"*
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In addition, look up the below articles.
*"Canaanite Phoenician Origin of the God of the Israelites."*
*"The Phoenician (Canaanite) God Resheph in the Bible - Is That in the Bible?"*
*"When the Jews believed in other gods - Archaeology - Haaretz"*
*"The Invention of God - Maclean's"*
*"The Boundaries of the Nations - Yahweh Elohim."*
*"How Did the Bible’s Editors Conceal Evidence of Israelite Polytheism - Evolution of God by Robert Wright."*
*"A Theologically Revised Text: Deuteronomy 32:8-9 - Ancient Hebrew Poetry."*
*"Biblical Contradiction #3: Which God is the Creator of the Heavens and Earth: Yahweh or El?"*
*"Biblical Contradiction #27. Are Yahweh and El the Same God or Not?"*
*"Biblical Contradiction **#294**, **#295**, **#296**. Which god liberated Israel from Egypt: Yahweh or El?"*
*"Mark Smith: "Yahweh as El’s Son & Yahweh's Ascendancy - Lehi's Library."*
*"Quartz Hill School of Theology - B425 Ugarit and the Bible."*
*"The Origins of Yahweh and the Revived Kenite Hypothesis - Is That in the Bible?"*
*"Yahweh, god of metallurgy - Fewer Lacunae."*
*"Polytheistic Roots of Israelite Religion - Fewer Lacunae."*
*"Biblical Polytheism - Bob Seidensticker."*
*"Combat Myth: The Curious Story of Yahweh and the Gods Who Preceded Him - Bob Seidensticker."*
*"Religious Studies: El, Yahweh and the Development of Monotheism in Ancient Israel."*
*"Decoupling YHWH and El - Daniel O. McClellan."*
*"Yhwh, God of Edom - Daniel O. McClellan."*
*"God, Gods, and Sons (and Daughters) of God in the Hebrew Bible. Part III - theyellowdart"*
*"God and the "Sons of God" - Yahweh Elohim"*
@@epicofgilgamesh9964 dude, i used to live in this kind of deception like you, and now the devil is telling you to enter this ortodox video and comments so maybe you will fool some weak mind and take him away from God.Review what you are doing and If you cant change, at least leave ortodox alone
TL;DR Agnostic DRIVEL!!!!!
@@epicofgilgamesh9964 No one cares.
*The Enuma Elish would later be the inspiration for the Hebrew scribes who created the text now known as the biblical Book of Genesis.* Prior to the 19th century CE, the Bible was considered the oldest book in the world and its narratives were thought to be completely original. In the mid-19th century CE, however, European museums, as well as academic and religious institutions, sponsored excavations in Mesopotamia to find physical evidence for historical corroboration of the stories in the Bible. ***These excavations found quite the opposite, however, in that, once cuneiform was translated, it was understood that a number of biblical narratives were Mesopotamian in origin.***
*Famous stories such as the Fall of Man and the Great Flood were originally conceived and written down in Sumer,* translated and modified later in Babylon, and reworked by the Assyrians ***before they were used by the Hebrew scribes for the versions which appear in the Bible.***
***In revising the Mesopotamian creation story for their own ends, the Hebrew scribes tightened the narrative and the focus but retained the concept of the all-powerful deity who brings order from chaos.*** Marduk, in the Enuma Elish, establishes the recognizable order of the world - *just as God does in the Genesis tale* - and human beings are expected to recognize this great gift and honor the deity through service.
Google *"Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text - World History Encyclopedia"*
Also discussed by Professor Christine Hayes at Yale University in her 1st lecture of the series on the Hebrew Bible from 8:50 to 14:30 minutes, lecture 3 from 28:30 to 41:35 minutes, lecture 4 from 0:00 up to 21:30 minutes and 24:00 up to 35:30 minutes and lecture 7 from 24:20 to 25:10 minutes.
From a Biblical scholar:
"Many stories in the ancient world have their origins in other stories and were borrowed and modified from other or earlier peoples. *For instance, many of the stories now preserved in the Bible are* ***modified*** *versions of stories that existed in the cultures and traditions of Israel’s* ***older*** *contemporaries.* Stories about the creation of the universe, a cataclysmic universal flood, digging wells as land markers, the naming of important cultic sites, gods giving laws to their people, and even stories about gods decreeing the possession of land to their people were all part of the cultural and literary matrix of the ancient Near East. *Biblical scribes freely* ***adopted and modified*** *these stories as a means to express their own identity, origins, and customs."*
*"Stories from the Bible"* by Dr Steven DiMattei, from his website *"Biblical Contradictions"*
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In addition, look up the below articles.
*"Debunking the Devil - Michael A. Sherlock (Author)"*
*"10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse"*
*"Top Ten Reasons Noah’s Flood is Mythology - The Sensuous Curmudgeon"*
*"The Adam and Eve myth - News24"*
*"Are The Ten Commandments Based On The Forty-Two Principles Of Maat That Appeared 2,000 Years Earlier? - Ancient Pages"*
*"Before Adam and Eve - Psychology Today"*
*"Gilgamesh vs. Noah - Wordpress"*
*"No, Humans Are Probably Not All Descended From A Single Couple Who Lived 200,000 Years Ago"*
*"Adam & Eve: Theologians Try to Reconcile Science and Fail - The New Republic"*
*"Adam and Eve: the ultimate standoff between science and faith (and a contest!) - Why Evolution Is True"*
*"Bogus accommodationism: The return of Adam and Eve as real people, as proposed by a wonky quasi-scientific theory - Why Evolution Is True"*
*"How many scientists question evolution? - **sciencemeetsreligion.org**"*
*"What is the evidence for evolution? - Common-questions - BioLogos"*
(A Christian organisation)
*"Why scientists dismiss 'intelligent design' - Science"*
*"Old Testament Tales Were Stolen From Other Cultures - Griffin"*
*"Parallelism between “The Hymn to Aten” and Psalm 104 - Project Augustine"*
*"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"*
*"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei"*
*Let's briefly run through the 'ten plagues':*
First the rivers are turned to blood, all the fish die and the waters stink. No one has any water to drink. This lasted for seven days and would have resulted in mass deaths due to dehydration. Amongst the first to die would have been the children. *The author doesn't think to explain how the Hebrews were saved from this. No record of it was made anywhere in any Egyptian records.* Exodus 7:17-25.
This is followed by a plague of frogs which had somehow survived the rivers of blood that had killed all the fish. A mere inconvenience, nothing more, and a big stink when they all died, *but no record anywhere.* Exodus 8:2-13.
Next we have the plague of lice about which very little is said *and of course no record was made.* To a people who would have been accustomed to lice this would probably have been nothing remarkable. Exodus 8:16-18.
Then the flies. Apart from the land being 'corrupted', whatever that means, there don't appear to have been any ill effects from this and they disappear as quickly as they came a few days later. *Nothing worth recording there, obviously.* Exodus 8:21-31.
Now the author seems to begin to lose the plot and describes a 'grievous murrain' *which kills all the Egyptians' cattle, horses, camels and sheep.* ***They all died - hold that thought.*** *No Egyptian historian or keeper of official records deems it worthy of mention.* Exodus 9:3-6.
Next come the boils which afflict everyone and everything, including all the livestock ***even though they had been killed by the 'grievous murrain' a few days earlier,*** *apparently, and yet no-one thought to write anything down anywhere.* Of course, anyone who understood anything about microorganisms and the aeteology of boils would have described this as an infestation with Staphylococcus - the signs of faecal contamination - but the author was obviously unaware of these. Maybe he was just in too much of a muddle by now to care. Exodus 9:8-11.
Now it's hailstones so bad that every plant, every tree, every servant (for servant read slave) ***and even the livestock (that our story-teller has forgotten already that he killed off in the fifth plague before given them boils in the sixth) were harmed.*** It looks like our story-teller has learned from his earlier silly mistake with killing all the livestock too soon then having to resurrect them later. He mentions that some plants survive. Do I smell stinking fish again? *The greatest hail storm in all Egyptian history, apparently, but not worthy of being recorded.* Exodus 9:18-25.
It's the turn of the locusts and it's suddenly obvious why some plants had to survive. *How could the locusts turn Egypt into a barren desert if the hail storm had done it earlier?* Good thinking there. Shame about the earlier boob! *Mysteriously, no Egyptian scribe appears to notice any of this or the inevitable famine and mass starvation which would have ensued.* Exodus 10:4-15.
And for the penultimate trick, it's going to be dark for three days. *No one makes a record of this, obviously.* Exodus 10:21-23.
The last 'plague' is not so much a plague as a ritual genocide. *Here our tale takes a nasty turn and the true character of the Hebrew god is revealed in all its glory - a petty, vindictive, homicidal psychopath who has not yet acquired the omniscience he will be granted later. He kills every firstborn Egyptian in a single night,* ***including the firstborn of all the cattle that died in the fifth plague.*** *For some reason he needs the Hebrews to leave a secret sign so he doesn't kill them too. Weirdly, he can't tell his own chosen people from ordinary Egyptians and doesn't even know where they live.* And he had been leading up to this, apparently, because after every plague he 'hardens the heart' of Pharaoh so that he wouldn't let the Hebrews go. He had actually been planning this genocide all along just to impress people with his powers. *And still no-one thought even this mass killing in a single night worth making a note of in any Egyptian records.* Exodus 12:1-30.
And then, of course, Pharaoh could muster up 600 horses to pull the chariots ***from amongst all the dead livestock from the 5th plague*** (Exodus 14:7).
Google *"Rosa Rubicondior: Origins Of The Exodus Myth"*
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In addition, look up the below articles.
*"Debunking Christianity: PATTERNS OF POOR RESEARCH- A Critique of Patterns of Evidence:Exodus"*
*"For you were (not) slaves in Egypt: The ancient memories behind the Exodus myth - Archaeology - **Haaretz.com**"*
*"Why the Exodus Story Has Value Despite Being Complete Myth - Psychology Today Australia"*
*"Is the Exodus a Myth? - Worlds Beyond"*
*"Historicity of Exodus and Moses - The Creatively Maladjusted"*
*"Biblical Contradiction #81. When did the Exodus allegedly happen: during the reign of Rameses II (1279-1213 BC) OR in 1447 BC?"*
*"Ten Reasons Why the Bible’s Story of the Exodus is Not True - by Tim Zeak - ExCommunications - Medium"*
*"Why Moses Did Not Write the Torah - Thomas Shoemaker"*
*"Sargon the Great and Moses - The Word of Me… Wordpress"*
*"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei"*
*"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"*
TL;DR Agnostic DRIVEL!!!!!
If you are interested to dive into this discussion in detail please check out the Lord of Spirits podcast! It goes into the nature of the relationship of these stories to the Scriptures and shows how the people surrounded by the stories of the Enuma Elish and other pagan narratives would have seen Genesis. Also worth noting that I don't know a single Orthodox Christian who would deny the relationship of the ancient narratives to the ones in Scripture. I actually think that relationship is what makes the Scriptures so amazing. You can see what a life-giving, and amazing difference their is between them only when you know about the pagan ones.
Yes, and that has to do with this video, what, exactly 🤔?
I’m orthodox but I’m directly related to adolf hitler no one will let me in their church ?
I dont see the problem
You go to the wrong Church then, any legit/holy church will welcome anyone, regardless of their past.
You are created by God, that the only thing that counts. The Orthdox Church welcome all people.
it's a BIG LIE,isn't it?
sure you are all of that 😌
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