I love how you point out that in gameplay we won’t be able to telll the difference but fan noise and temps and power consumption so matter and they are the decision makers / deal breakers.
I love the channel for the fan noise tests. 98% of the other channels make shit 50mins benchmark videos without the most important point the fan noise and temps
Exactly. The only two things that really matter is noise and temps. I have heard that for every 10 degrees hotter a chip runs, it reduces the life by half. Thus, the memory chips in an Aero will be about 6-8x longer than the memory chips in the Asus Dual fan model. If you change boards every year to the latest and greatest, that doesn't matter, but if you normally run the same video card for 5+ years (or if you buy used cards), it may be of greater significance.
@@ThunderingRoar That rule is based on applying the Arrhenius equation, but that only applies to certain types of degradation. In many cases the equation has provided accurate predictions, but there is some debate how broadly it applies. For my purposes, it is close enough. I have no doubt that a CPU or GPU will last a lot longer at 70 degrees than at 100 degrees. Whether it is a difference of 8x or not, I can't say, but I do try to keep my chips at lower temperatures.
I bought myself white 4070s Asus Dual at an affordable price and do not regret at all. Under the undevolting, the Temp around 60-63 degrees, the memory temperature fluctuates around 72-74 degrees. And all this is 2775MHz clean. The card is quiet and compact. I perfectly approached my white compact building.
@@Henrique-wv9xq yeah seriously and part of that is Nvidias problem locking features behind their pay walls. If AMD could figure out a form of frame generation I'm sure Nvidia could have figured something out for 30 series cards pretty easily. But nope lol.
today's mid range can do 100+ fps 1440p ultra gaming, even path tracing with dlss quality/balanced and frame gen at over 80 fps, so it's really good, don't be stuck at that "mid" or "high" end terms
I appreciate those kind of reviews because most reviews only focus on the different GPU tiers but not the different models of one GPU because most of the time they are kinda unexciting.
I love how people label these cards "mid range". They have never been mid range and never will be. The fact that we now have more variety of top-end GPU's is great but the 4070 is by no means midrange since they run everything at 1440p 120+ fps smoothly.
@@ChloeTaylor-dp5oh But they didn't, in all actuality the GPU performance has increased drastically over what we actually need for 60 fps gaming at 1080p and 1440p. 4K is still just a dream unless you are willing to spend 4-5k on your PC, but other than that - you don't need anything more than a 4070. The jump from 1440p to 4k is too big however.
@@ChristianRusso-l3x Huh? So EVERYONE's standards still stuck in 1080p 30fps? I ask if standards increased, meaning people want higher performance and better visual quality because the bar has been raised year over year. Who are you to say what SOMEONE ELSE does and doesn't need lol. It varies user to user. Some people want high refresh rate because they don't want to play a choppy input laggy mess. Some actually care about RT and Visuals. Some don't. Such a dumb blanket statement to say "you don't need anything more than a 4070". Have you literally played any game after 2020? Are you one of these people that cant feel a difference between 100 and 200 fps, let alone 60 to 120fps? 1080/1440p monitors have 165hz-240hz models everywhere. Just keep that 1080 a little longer bro, jesus LOL. I swear ever since the 30 series you weirdos are everywhere and only exist in reddit threads and youtube comments. Can't wait to shit on people who care about getting the most fps at a reasonable visual quality in 2024.
Truth what you said about coil whine. It is not a characteristic of a card, but more the combinationation of power supply and card. Some Outubers say it is more likely to occur with highly efficient power supplies and single cables leading to gpu. In other words, choose adequate psu.
Yeah I’ve owned top tier MSI gpus like Suprim and Gaming X paired with Corsair and now my 4080 SuprimX is paired with Super Flower leadex vii and have zero coil whine. I tried Asus instant coil whine. On my 2nd build I’ve used Thermaltake, Corsair and Seasonic PSUs paired with FE, MSI, Gigabyte, no coil whine. Paired with Asus, coil whine. Tldr definitely depends on the pairing!!
I bought the FE. I always wanted a FE and the all black is super nice and premium. It's really quiet, no coil whine and playing HFW temps stay nice and cool, under 65degs. I always had coil whine with Asus cards.
i also wanted to buy this, planned for a month and almost on my final decision day, final hour, i switched to gigabyte model, just because i was not satisfied with the thermal performance and heat dissipation of this card. yes, the card looks absolutely sleek and gorgeous, and the design is also best suited for cooling... but i belong to hot climate, and in summers the highest temps might go to 85+. comparing with others, triple fans would make sense to me. Also, 1 year warranty extension got my attention (although i didnt get it, so its a waste of money).
I want to enjoy it too, but giving the fact that I've payed 250 euros in 2019 for a Asus 1660 Super, this new generation pricing is giving me headaches
I got a Zotac Twin Edge 4070 Super for £50 off it's normal price of £589 in the UK in a flash sale, so cheaper than the non-Super MSRP! It's more compact than any of these other cards, good for a SFF mini-ITX build, but I really don't like Zotac's current designs - I much prefer Nvidia's FE aesthetic and all-metal build. Still, it runs quiet and fairly cool for its size. The best thing is you get 5 years of warranty - 3 years as standard with 2 extra years if you register within 28 days of purchase.
Just bought the same few days ago for 500 £ on flash sale. Coming off the 2070 super and the fans were going crazy with the latest AAA tiles. Now, I'm finally in silence again. Can't wait to try the new COD
Got the 4070 super asus white OC none evo edition. Don't get the evo guys! It has worse fans and fins. Performance on none evo is just better. The cooling on my card is so so good and performance is insane overall. was surprised the white one feels all metal besides the little front piece. Like the one in the video only half of the space is covered by a heating and fins. Mine covers the entire open and gap. Better cooling all the way. Hers is an evo. It doesn't cost 10 to 20 dollars more then the evo but it's so worth it and getting a white one gauruntees you to a none evo version. Asus doing there sneaky stuff trying to get rid of leftover 3000 seriees components. Also the fans on the evo is 90mm while the ones on the none evo are 100mm.
I have the Asus Dual, and my core temps sit around 73c with fans spinning 47-50%. We are currently in midst of summer where I live (Zambia) with average temps of 34c. Perhaps that explains my high temps.
Hey, those temps are actually nice, all things considered. That being said, I feel you, bro. Shout out from Brazil. We also get some rough temperatures over here in the summer and even in the spring 🥵
For anyone looking for the ArtPro. I got the 4070s OC ArtPro, temp around 66-68 on GPU 100% (Alan Wake 2) and deadly silent (case on the floor). I couldn't fit the TUF in my case and I'm now glad I couldn't as the ArtPro is as good as.
Hello. Great channel that already helped me to get the 990 Evo ssd as os drive and now I am here for the GPU. I could get my hands on both the founders edition and the windforce for 590€ both. The comparisons says that the windforce is louder but cooler than the fe. What's about coil whine? And which of these would you pick considering the price point? Thanks and keep going.
That exact comparison of gaming power is amazing and exactly what I needed. Thank you so much for the non-bias and for the straight-to-the-point examination! Brilliant!
Thanks for all the info! I especially appreciate the thorough inspection about noise and thermals! Seriously, it's so difficult to find a good review even for a specific model, and you did great with a ton of them! Any chance we can get an MSI 4070 Super Gaming X Slim review? I've been thinking on pulling the trigger for that one but haven't found a good enough review
Thank you for giving me more insight on the 4070 Super GPUs! Currently I'm slowly building my first desktop PC in this horrible economy and have been torn between which card I should purchase. I'll be looking to purchase the 4070 Super Aero from Gigabyte! Dual BIOS, very low temps, quietness, etc. Thanks again for your expertise!
Great video as usual! surprising variations on temps, for me that is a decision maker metric, but I am not sure 100 bucks more worth that difference in temps.
Dual in 2 tone gray/white looks beautiful for my build. At half the size of 3080 aorus Xtreme and performs lot better for far less power per watt is amazing. Truely 1440p card
Atleast you guys include hotspot temps (would be nice with mem too) unlike most other major reviewers on youtube and even the web. Think only Techpowerup offers hotspots aswell. The rest are hugging the companies real hard making sure not to step on their toes with their 90c+ hotspots instead just showing their cute 60c core temps.
I bought a PNY dual fan. The reason is that it was by far the cheapest. PNY's graphics card is small and thin with two fans, so I knew it would get very hot. Even if I limit the power to 70% using GE, it still exceeds 70 degrees Celsius. However, since the warranty period is three years, I can use it without fear of failure.
@@ceaseyourheresy88 It is currently set to 0.975V. That would get it to 72 degrees, but I'm generally happy with the way it is now. At first I was annoyed with PNY for making the cheap 4070S, but now I've accepted it all and feel that it was a good experience. Unlike Radeon, Geforce is considered to be of high quality even in its reference models, so I would like them to improve the overall cooling performance to the point where FE becomes the lowest quality. 4070 SUPER varies too much.
@@銀河光芒 I have a Zotac Rtx 4070 Twin Edge Super. I recently made 0.935 mV at a frequency of 2640 MHz. I played Cyberpunk 2077 for a bit at maximum settings (without Path Tracing) in 3k (DLDSR (I have a Full HD monitor)) with DLSS on quality. There was no departure, it usually flew out immediately when the voltage was too low. Without undervolt, the frequency is 2745 MHz. I think it's very good to lower the frequency by 100 at 0.935 mV. I also increased the memory clock by 400 (probably more can be done, we need to test). The temperature without undervolt was 69 degrees at a fan speed of 65%. After the undervolt, the temperature did not rise above 61 degrees. Probably, I will make the voltage at 0.900-0.915 mV, I want to reduce the temperature so that I can reduce the fan speed. It's too noisy. And so, this is also an experience for me. A cheap graphics card is hot and noisy.
I always went with ASUS for GPUs, gigabyte having more years of warranty doesn't offset their much lower quality use of components. My ASUS Phoenix 1060 has been running since 2016, baked in dust, never cleaned, never re-paste, everything still working perfectly today, fans are good, temps are good.
Fantastic video, would love to see more, maybe even for rtx 4060? Anyway, keep up the good work and thank you for valuable lessons and making gpu choices easier.
I just ordered the asus dual 4070 super and now after watching the video im kinda concerned about the memory temperatures is there any downside of it running at 80+°? Because imo it was the best lookin
@@TechTesters wow thanks for the quick and nice answer!! I was just a bit concerned because if was the hottest but after some research i also read that everything under 90 is fine👍🏻
@@miguelcaserojorge8265 its good, but i would not go for a asus product again just because of the software which contains alot of bloatware. But gaming and temp wise i cant complain
I like the new 12VHPWR connection on some ( this one included ) PSU's- I bought the Thermaltake 750 watt tough power true 300 12VHPWR last August ( there wasn't a lot of options then for this connection then ) to power my 4070 Ti Seasonic is a very good brand
I built a Ryzen 7800 x3d rig last night with an Asus tuf x670 WiFi board and Corsair vengeance 6000 ram, but I'm waiting for black Friday to buy a new gpu. I was leaning towards the Asus tuf card, but after watching this and a few other guides my mind is definitely made up now. Great video thanks for posting👌
I have a Sapphire 6800 16 gig it is outdated now but i am quite happy with it. Nice review. I leave a comment for RUclips search. I wonder if you remember? We had a discussion about 6700 vs 6800 you said for the price difference you would go for the 6800 so i did. Best decision ever. Your pal Coco
There is little reason most of these should be fatter than dual slot save to plump up AIB partner profits and stroke buyers' egos. We're being conditioned to see bigger as better; however, Ada cards from this level downward just don't really justify being matched with big heatsinks. First, the review notes "none of them are super loud", and indeed some of the quietest are the smallest in volume. There also isn't any massive separation in performance between anything in this roundup; Nvidia demands tight controls on what AIB partners can bring to market (except size, where apparently 80-class coolers can be reused for even 60-class models now). And Ada efficiencies over Ampere also allow us to look for cooler designs on a diet. There is some width and length to play with to offer in lieu of the now almost-default triple-or-quad-slot heatsink design, too. What do we get back -- besides the insanity? Well, hopefully some sticker price. But for sure we get at least one PCIe slot back with most motherboards (interestingly, only Gigabyte ATX boards have layouts that make room for triple-slot GPUs without blockages on dual x16 secondaries). And to be clear, I haven't said to spike all the big boy coolers. They just need to be reduced in number.
Would it be possible to include what MSI Afterburner can raise power levels to? I.E. on my 3070 I can extend power to 109%. I’m not asking what performance result happens, but I am curious what OC is possible between the cards and helps with decision making for me and I’m sure others as well. Great work and thank you!
Great video :) thank you for the comparison .. but you are missing gaming x slim from MSI :( .. I am deciding between the aero and gaming x slim .. which one would you get ? I wonder which one would be quieter and cooler.
msi > gigabyte for GPUs imo. msi uses double ball bearings in all of their models and gigabyte uses sleeve-bearing for anything other than auros in this price range. no excuse to put cheap fans on a $650 card is how i see it.
I have a gigabyte z370 MB since 2018. I currently have a Zotac 1070 Ti. Can I install a 4070 on my board? and you think it will work in 2024? I will be updating for an all new computer set up soon. Big thanks mate.
No one ever talks in dept about how toasty the memory junction gets on any of this cards on any channel. I can assure you that on all these cards in high stress scenarios like GPU rendering and even in some games(Rust for example) will easily exceed 90degrees.
Inno3D white edition of this GPU looks really professional. I'm glad at least someone is making decent looking GPU. Aero is definitely better but yeah that "aero" extra tax is just bad.
Thanks for the review, no other channel makes vids comparing same GPU of the different brands, while I wanted to check the comparison because, I'm going to be buying the Founder's Edition
@@AyanUtech It’s been months bro. I loved her content. She abruptly stopped. Hopefully she is good and just gave it up. I don’t see that ladder true though.
@@Xilent1 And just watching a video on her channel for the first time was a really good experience for me, I feel you bro, I hope she's fine and creates another video soon, maybe she's out of content and looking for more and will flood her channel with new vid uploads daily, don't worry, hope for the bst and stay positive
Are the 30 series end of life now? in my region (Oceania), I can't get 3070 and above without paying $1100-2000. Meanwhile, a Gigabyte Windforce 4070 super is $900. What's the go with that?
Recently got myself 4070 super Gigabyte Gaming OC and I must say that it's very silent while also very cool. In full load doesn't go above 60C and idle stays at 32C
i have a 4070 ti gigabyte aero oc, the problem with this card is that it has a hardcoded fan speed...i cant manually set the fan speed lower that 60% in msi afterburner (if i set it to 59% or lower it beeps non stop and trying to start like the fans start spinning for half a second but doesnt actually start), or any other software do you have the same problem?
@thedawn-rt9rx That is very weird and I don't know if that's only something the ti GPUs have. For my GPU I set the fans to stop when it's below 34C and it works
@@dragos5640 yeah the problem isnt that i cant stop them, they only start spinning at 60 celcius (stock) and below that they turn off...the problem is i cant lower the fan speed from 60% when they start
Yo idk why half of the comments are trash talking the card, man I just wanna get something that can render and simulate faster than my 2011 Toshiba Satellite
the prices are mad, I have to stick with my 3070 for now and then pull the trigger on the 5070 right away. already on my list for aaa games to play when I get the new card: Avatar, Horizon Zero Down 2, Alan Wake 2,what else?
Please add zotac's and msi's 4070 super in this comparison video or in future video cause those are also available in my area and I would like to know about those as well. Appreciate your videos.
Thanks! Usually I have more MSI cards but supply has been poor with this chip. No Zotac plans unfortunately. They’re harder to get here and Zotac hasn’t been interested in sending out any for comparisons.
ill be waiting for msi cards thank you for the info. Honestly there are only a few tech channels that are as to the point as yours, when it comes to hardware. Keep up the good work. @@TechTesters
Great! I, just bought the same GPU 2 days ago. Was it the OC version or the non OC version? This video is one of the very few really good reviews of it. But it's still working fine right? I haven't picked up the package yet, I saw today that the windforce model are on sale now for the same price so I've been wondering if I should replace it with the Gigabyte model. Is it possible to undervolt the card aswell or does it have a lock?
Because i believe you can alter your fans individually in a different program without bios, or do you need bios mode in order to alter it?, otherwise that would be a rip-off
Those aren't bad temps for the junction and hotspot temps. The Gigabyte eagle OC and msi ventus 2x seem to be warmer on the hot spot at 85c+ and are louder so i'm looking to avoid those models.
@@cyberpunk59 Nobody is buying a card just to set a fan curve in afterburner And btw the lowest rpm on the aero 4070 super ist 30% 1000rpm and it's still loud AF and u fortunately u can't set the fans under 1000rpm Wich is straight up dump
@@JJ-gk5tn I already heard this kind of speech before "ah nobody buys a 7950x3d to tinker with it, everyone buys a cpu for it to work the best directly" If you don't tinker with your gpu at that basic level, an aero isn't made for you. As for the minimum speed being 30% and still too noisy. I think your card has an issue. Because if in this test, they could reach as low as 32db just with setting the silent bios, which is very close to base ambient noise for a normal room, I have a hard time imagining it being as noisy as you describe it.
@@cyberpunk59 it's about GPU fans and not about a fuckin CPU bro And nope I brought it back they tested it the cars is fine the fans are just loud and they said I'm not the first person who turn in a gigabyte card because it's loud Honestly they look good but the fans are straight up garbage Just trained in for a Asus dual 4070 super Wich has only two fans and still is way more quiet In terms of GPUs I can only recommend Asus Don't listen to these gigabyte fanboys The GPUs from them are shit AF
So how much is really 100mhz difference? I wondering about 2 cards, one have 2565 mhz, other have 2655 mhz. Even tho the price difference between t hem are like 40$. Is it really worth it?
i really dont understand the term mid range when talking about gpus because this card is a beast and has no issues with any game how is it only mid range id say the 4060 is mid range it can play most games very well but then some games might have a little trouble going over 60 fps
Greatly apreciate those types if videos, comparing different brands. Keep the quality!
I love how you point out that in gameplay we won’t be able to telll the difference but fan noise and temps and power consumption so matter and they are the decision makers / deal breakers.
I love the channel for the fan noise tests. 98% of the other channels make shit 50mins benchmark videos without the most important point the fan noise and temps
Exactly. The only two things that really matter is noise and temps. I have heard that for every 10 degrees hotter a chip runs, it reduces the life by half. Thus, the memory chips in an Aero will be about 6-8x longer than the memory chips in the Asus Dual fan model. If you change boards every year to the latest and greatest, that doesn't matter, but if you normally run the same video card for 5+ years (or if you buy used cards), it may be of greater significance.
@carlr2837 yeah thats bs, higher temps and thermal cycling will lead to lower life span, but its nowhere near the half for every 10°C lol
@@ThunderingRoar That rule is based on applying the Arrhenius equation, but that only applies to certain types of degradation. In many cases the equation has provided accurate predictions, but there is some debate how broadly it applies. For my purposes, it is close enough. I have no doubt that a CPU or GPU will last a lot longer at 70 degrees than at 100 degrees. Whether it is a difference of 8x or not, I can't say, but I do try to keep my chips at lower temperatures.
😂 dude i want that 3 fps
I bought myself white 4070s Asus Dual at an affordable price and do not regret at all. Under the undevolting, the Temp around 60-63 degrees, the memory temperature fluctuates around 72-74 degrees. And all this is 2775MHz clean. The card is quiet and compact. I perfectly approached my white compact building.
I spent $600 on my 4070 super the fact that it's mid-range makes me sad. Post covid PC gaming can kind of suck sometimes lol
yeah, it's so hard to purchase any GPU because the longevity vs price just isn't the same as it used to be
@@Henrique-wv9xq yeah seriously and part of that is Nvidias problem locking features behind their pay walls. If AMD could figure out a form of frame generation I'm sure Nvidia could have figured something out for 30 series cards pretty easily. But nope lol.
It's Nvidia ripping you off 😅
today's mid range can do 100+ fps 1440p ultra gaming, even path tracing with dlss quality/balanced and frame gen at over 80 fps, so it's really good, don't be stuck at that "mid" or "high" end terms
All depends on definition. These are all high end cards imo. An Arc A750 or A770 are more midrange and cost around 3-400 dollars less.
I appreciate those kind of reviews because most reviews only focus on the different GPU tiers but not the different models of one GPU because most of the time they are kinda unexciting.
I love how people label these cards "mid range". They have never been mid range and never will be.
The fact that we now have more variety of top-end GPU's is great but the 4070 is by no means midrange since they run everything at 1440p 120+ fps smoothly.
Are standards not allowed to increase? lol
@@ChloeTaylor-dp5oh But they didn't, in all actuality the GPU performance has increased drastically over what we actually need for 60 fps gaming at 1080p and 1440p. 4K is still just a dream unless you are willing to spend 4-5k on your PC, but other than that - you don't need anything more than a 4070. The jump from 1440p to 4k is too big however.
@@ChristianRusso-l3x
Huh? So EVERYONE's standards still stuck in 1080p 30fps? I ask if standards increased, meaning people want higher performance and better visual quality because the bar has been raised year over year.
Who are you to say what SOMEONE ELSE does and doesn't need lol.
It varies user to user.
Some people want high refresh rate because they don't want to play a choppy input laggy mess. Some actually care about RT and Visuals. Some don't.
Such a dumb blanket statement to say "you don't need anything more than a 4070".
Have you literally played any game after 2020? Are you one of these people that cant feel a difference between 100 and 200 fps, let alone 60 to 120fps?
1080/1440p monitors have 165hz-240hz models everywhere.
Just keep that 1080 a little longer bro, jesus LOL. I swear ever since the 30 series you weirdos are everywhere and only exist in reddit threads and youtube comments. Can't wait to shit on people who care about getting the most fps at a reasonable visual quality in 2024.
@@ChristianRusso-l3x lol... people think $500 more expensive and 5 more frames = Higher Standards
Nice video. Will there be more models reviews on videocards RTX4070 TI Super?
Definitely want that review. I’m looking to build a new pc with that card
the rx7800xt is better and cheaper
Yeah but for now DLSS3 is making it better@@heldermonteiro2718
Thanks! And the Ti Super is coming with 7 cards.
@@TechTesters Very nice. Waiting
Truth what you said about coil whine. It is not a characteristic of a card, but more the combinationation of power supply and card. Some Outubers say it is more likely to occur with highly efficient power supplies and single cables leading to gpu. In other words, choose adequate psu.
And yet some cards don't do it regardless of PSU. So cheaper just to buy that type of GPU seeing as you'll already have a PSU if you're upgrading.
Yeah I’ve owned top tier MSI gpus like Suprim and Gaming X paired with Corsair and now my 4080 SuprimX is paired with Super Flower leadex vii and have zero coil whine. I tried Asus instant coil whine. On my 2nd build I’ve used Thermaltake, Corsair and Seasonic PSUs paired with FE, MSI, Gigabyte, no coil whine. Paired with Asus, coil whine.
Tldr definitely depends on the pairing!!
I bought the FE. I always wanted a FE and the all black is super nice and premium. It's really quiet, no coil whine and playing HFW temps stay nice and cool, under 65degs. I always had coil whine with Asus cards.
i also wanted to buy this, planned for a month and almost on my final decision day, final hour, i switched to gigabyte model, just because i was not satisfied with the thermal performance and heat dissipation of this card. yes, the card looks absolutely sleek and gorgeous, and the design is also best suited for cooling... but i belong to hot climate, and in summers the highest temps might go to 85+. comparing with others, triple fans would make sense to me. Also, 1 year warranty extension got my attention (although i didnt get it, so its a waste of money).
I'm enjoying my RTX 4070 Super Asus Dual oc. Thanks for the detailed review Techtesters!
Thermal problem or something?
@@w-xing5250 No problems here.
I want to enjoy it too, but giving the fact that I've payed 250 euros in 2019 for a Asus 1660 Super, this new generation pricing is giving me headaches
I got a Zotac Twin Edge 4070 Super for £50 off it's normal price of £589 in the UK in a flash sale, so cheaper than the non-Super MSRP! It's more compact than any of these other cards, good for a SFF mini-ITX build, but I really don't like Zotac's current designs - I much prefer Nvidia's FE aesthetic and all-metal build. Still, it runs quiet and fairly cool for its size. The best thing is you get 5 years of warranty - 3 years as standard with 2 extra years if you register within 28 days of purchase.
Would you pay a bit extra for the dual vs Ventus oc? £13 difference (543 vs 530)
Just bought the same few days ago for 500 £ on flash sale. Coming off the 2070 super and the fans were going crazy with the latest AAA tiles. Now, I'm finally in silence again. Can't wait to try the new COD
I have the same one. I had to use an undervolt because the graphics card is hot. Oh yes, and also noisy.
You and your team always do such a great job. Thanks.
I've been looking for a video like this for so long, not enough people make videos actually comparing models made by third party companies
Got the 4070 super asus white OC none evo edition. Don't get the evo guys! It has worse fans and fins. Performance on none evo is just better.
The cooling on my card is so so good and performance is insane overall. was surprised the white one feels all metal besides the little front piece.
Like the one in the video only half of the space is covered by a heating and fins. Mine covers the entire open and gap. Better cooling all the way. Hers is an evo.
It doesn't cost 10 to 20 dollars more then the evo but it's so worth it and getting a white one gauruntees you to a none evo version.
Asus doing there sneaky stuff trying to get rid of leftover 3000 seriees components. Also the fans on the evo is 90mm while the ones on the none evo are 100mm.
I have the Asus Dual, and my core temps sit around 73c with fans spinning 47-50%. We are currently in midst of summer where I live (Zambia) with average temps of 34c. Perhaps that explains my high temps.
Less than 40c above ambient temperature with the fans at or below 50% is very good. GPUs can run at 70-80c all day no problem.
@@matt-dw my gtx 970 would reach 90 all day sometimes high 90's xD
Hey, those temps are actually nice, all things considered. That being said, I feel you, bro. Shout out from Brazil. We also get some rough temperatures over here in the summer and even in the spring 🥵
Great review, gets to all the important points without hyperbole or annoying, unwanted 'important youtuber' nonsense.
For anyone looking for the ArtPro. I got the 4070s OC ArtPro, temp around 66-68 on GPU 100% (Alan Wake 2) and deadly silent (case on the floor). I couldn't fit the TUF in my case and I'm now glad I couldn't as the ArtPro is as good as.
Hello. Great channel that already helped me to get the 990 Evo ssd as os drive and now I am here for the GPU. I could get my hands on both the founders edition and the windforce for 590€ both. The comparisons says that the windforce is louder but cooler than the fe. What's about coil whine? And which of these would you pick considering the price point? Thanks and keep going.
I got the Asus Dual in white - freaking kicks butt for the $$. Love it!
Nice, hope you're enjoying it :)
That exact comparison of gaming power is amazing and exactly what I needed. Thank you so much for the non-bias and for the straight-to-the-point examination! Brilliant!
Thanks for all the info! I especially appreciate the thorough inspection about noise and thermals! Seriously, it's so difficult to find a good review even for a specific model, and you did great with a ton of them!
Any chance we can get an MSI 4070 Super Gaming X Slim review? I've been thinking on pulling the trigger for that one but haven't found a good enough review
I doubt the MSI Slim will perform poorly tbh, but I haven’t seen it myself
Thank you for giving me more insight on the 4070 Super GPUs! Currently I'm slowly building my first desktop PC in this horrible economy and have been torn between which card I should purchase. I'll be looking to purchase the 4070 Super Aero from Gigabyte! Dual BIOS, very low temps, quietness, etc. Thanks again for your expertise!
Thank you for the information
Great video as usual! surprising variations on temps, for me that is a decision maker metric, but I am not sure 100 bucks more worth that difference in temps.
Thanks. And Id say no ;)
You guys know what? In my region 4070 super starts from $750 and I bought that, I don't know whether it makes sense for that cost now
Dual in 2 tone gray/white looks beautiful for my build. At half the size of 3080 aorus Xtreme and performs lot better for far less power per watt is amazing. Truely 1440p card
Thank you so much for posting this excellent review. I really like your presentation style and videography, both of which are outstanding.
I have a question..... Whatd the difference beetwen asus 4070 super and 4070 super evo? What means evo?
Atleast you guys include hotspot temps (would be nice with mem too) unlike most other major reviewers on youtube and even the web. Think only Techpowerup offers hotspots aswell. The rest are hugging the companies real hard making sure not to step on their toes with their 90c+ hotspots instead just showing their cute 60c core temps.
Mem temps are in there too :)
oh my god I just stumbled upon your channel, I'm in love! 😍
just bought the gigabyte eagle OC ICE 4070Super! It has silent and oc mode!
Hello Techtesters! I wonder if you used the OC or non OC version of the Inno3D GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Twin X2 in the video
This video helped me make a very informed decision, thank you. I went with the FE model.
Stacking all the cards on top of eachother like some form of gpucentipede is wild
I bought a PNY dual fan. The reason is that it was by far the cheapest. PNY's graphics card is small and thin with two fans, so I knew it would get very hot. Even if I limit the power to 70% using GE, it still exceeds 70 degrees Celsius. However, since the warranty period is three years, I can use it without fear of failure.
Try undervolting
@@ceaseyourheresy88 It is currently set to 0.975V. That would get it to 72 degrees, but I'm generally happy with the way it is now. At first I was annoyed with PNY for making the cheap 4070S, but now I've accepted it all and feel that it was a good experience. Unlike Radeon, Geforce is considered to be of high quality even in its reference models, so I would like them to improve the overall cooling performance to the point where FE becomes the lowest quality. 4070 SUPER varies too much.
@@銀河光芒 I have a Zotac Rtx 4070 Twin Edge Super. I recently made 0.935 mV at a frequency of 2640 MHz. I played Cyberpunk 2077 for a bit at maximum settings (without Path Tracing) in 3k (DLDSR (I have a Full HD monitor)) with DLSS on quality. There was no departure, it usually flew out immediately when the voltage was too low. Without undervolt, the frequency is 2745 MHz. I think it's very good to lower the frequency by 100 at 0.935 mV. I also increased the memory clock by 400 (probably more can be done, we need to test). The temperature without undervolt was 69 degrees at a fan speed of 65%. After the undervolt, the temperature did not rise above 61 degrees. Probably, I will make the voltage at 0.900-0.915 mV, I want to reduce the temperature so that I can reduce the fan speed. It's too noisy.
And so, this is also an experience for me. A cheap graphics card is hot and noisy.
Kia Ora & Good Morning from North Shore, Auckland, New Zealand ...great video... .
I always went with ASUS for GPUs, gigabyte having more years of warranty doesn't offset their much lower quality use of components. My ASUS Phoenix 1060 has been running since 2016, baked in dust, never cleaned, never re-paste, everything still working perfectly today, fans are good, temps are good.
The way she stroked that power supply at the end 😂
Clicking nails and whisper ASMR :"Seasonic"
Cable plugging and fan boot up :"Seasonic"
Fire cracking and burnt smell :" Seasonic"
👀👀👀
All of them are good. Undervolting solves temp problem, reducing tdp
Aero oc is king !
Fantastic video, would love to see more, maybe even for rtx 4060? Anyway, keep up the good work and thank you for valuable lessons and making gpu choices easier.
I just ordered the asus dual 4070 super and now after watching the video im kinda concerned about the memory temperatures is there any downside of it running at 80+°? Because imo it was the best lookin
80 on the memory is completely fine. Those parts are made to run hotter anyway.
@@TechTesters wow thanks for the quick and nice answer!! I was just a bit concerned because if was the hottest but after some research i also read that everything under 90 is fine👍🏻
how is the card so far? im planning into buying it
@@miguelcaserojorge8265 its good, but i would not go for a asus product again just because of the software which contains alot of bloatware. But gaming and temp wise i cant complain
I like the new 12VHPWR connection on some ( this one included ) PSU's-
I bought the Thermaltake 750 watt tough power true 300 12VHPWR last August ( there wasn't a lot of options then for this connection then ) to power my 4070 Ti
Seasonic is a very good brand
Oredered the TUF triple fan right after this video. Thank you!
Enjoy it!
any problems? i heard that asus has allot of coil whine. i mplanning to buy this one myself
what is your experience after 4 months using this card? any coilwhine? how temp? or anything
@@mojtabagarena9947 i decided since the 5000series is coming the end of this year il probably wait for a 5070 or a rx8800
Hi Nada. This is a great example of the saying, "Six of one half dozen of the other."
HI NICE REVIEW AND PLS SAY Gigabyte AORUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super Master is best than this cards or which beats this card out of ur list
"That's what I'm talking about, that's why she's the MVP, that's why she's the GOAT! the GOAT!"
I got the Gigabyte Gaming OC just because of the 4 years warranty. Not too shabby imo
I have it also 4080 Super and working great so far. No coil noise, in some older games 1080p 8W power draw.
@@jacqueslafeyyou got a 4080 super to game in 1080p?
@natel7382 some older games do not scale well. Point is how energy efficient card is.
Thanks for making this! Helps so much for decision making
Hi Nada! Congrats for your great content! Very straight forward and objective, specially the charts :)
I built a Ryzen 7800 x3d rig last night with an Asus tuf x670 WiFi board and Corsair vengeance 6000 ram, but I'm waiting for black Friday to buy a new gpu.
I was leaning towards the Asus tuf card, but after watching this and a few other guides my mind is definitely made up now. Great video thanks for posting👌
Great content, as always
I love my new ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER. Quiet and powerfull.
The super cards have come down in price very quickly compared to the 4070. I picked up mine for €630 and then a month later, my dad's for €590! Crazy!
I have a Sapphire 6800 16 gig it is outdated now but i am quite happy with it. Nice review. I leave a comment for RUclips search.
I wonder if you remember? We had a discussion about 6700 vs 6800 you said for the price difference you would go for the 6800 so i did. Best decision ever.
Your pal Coco
I don’t remember every topic but I remember names well enough ;) glad you liked it!
What is memory cooling? RAM or GPU memory? How is ASUS Dual so high?
There is little reason most of these should be fatter than dual slot save to plump up AIB partner profits and stroke buyers' egos. We're being conditioned to see bigger as better; however, Ada cards from this level downward just don't really justify being matched with big heatsinks.
First, the review notes "none of them are super loud", and indeed some of the quietest are the smallest in volume. There also isn't any massive separation in performance between anything in this roundup; Nvidia demands tight controls on what AIB partners can bring to market (except size, where apparently 80-class coolers can be reused for even 60-class models now). And Ada efficiencies over Ampere also allow us to look for cooler designs on a diet. There is some width and length to play with to offer in lieu of the now almost-default triple-or-quad-slot heatsink design, too.
What do we get back -- besides the insanity? Well, hopefully some sticker price. But for sure we get at least one PCIe slot back with most motherboards (interestingly, only Gigabyte ATX boards have layouts that make room for triple-slot GPUs without blockages on dual x16 secondaries). And to be clear, I haven't said to spike all the big boy coolers. They just need to be reduced in number.
Would it be possible to include what MSI Afterburner can raise power levels to? I.E. on my 3070 I can extend power to 109%. I’m not asking what performance result happens, but I am curious what OC is possible between the cards and helps with decision making for me and I’m sure others as well.
Great work and thank you!
Great video :) thank you for the comparison .. but you are missing gaming x slim from MSI :( .. I am deciding between the aero and gaming x slim .. which one would you get ? I wonder which one would be quieter and cooler.
msi > gigabyte for GPUs imo. msi uses double ball bearings in all of their models and gigabyte uses sleeve-bearing for anything other than auros in this price range. no excuse to put cheap fans on a $650 card is how i see it.
thanks .. I am leaning more to the MSI :) @@luckersxd
I have a gigabyte z370 MB since 2018. I currently have a Zotac 1070 Ti. Can I install a 4070 on my board? and you think it will work in 2024? I will be updating for an all new computer set up soon. Big thanks mate.
No one ever talks in dept about how toasty the memory junction gets on any of this cards on any channel. I can assure you that on all these cards in high stress scenarios like GPU rendering and even in some games(Rust for example) will easily exceed 90degrees.
Inno3D white edition of this GPU looks really professional. I'm glad at least someone is making decent looking GPU. Aero is definitely better but yeah that "aero" extra tax is just bad.
I love the Nada head shake when she says "let's begin" in her videos. 😊
Thanks for the review, no other channel makes vids comparing same GPU of the different brands, while I wanted to check the comparison because, I'm going to be buying the Founder's Edition
What happened to her anyway? Havent' made a video in forever
@@Xilent1 What, Really? Can't say, cuz tbh I'm new to the channel
@@AyanUtech It’s been months bro. I loved her content. She abruptly stopped. Hopefully she is good and just gave it up. I don’t see that ladder true though.
@@Xilent1 And just watching a video on her channel for the first time was a really good experience for me, I feel you bro, I hope she's fine and creates another video soon, maybe she's out of content and looking for more and will flood her channel with new vid uploads daily, don't worry, hope for the bst and stay positive
Back today, stay tuned :)
Thank you for doing this comparison 🙂
Are the 30 series end of life now? in my region (Oceania), I can't get 3070 and above without paying $1100-2000. Meanwhile, a Gigabyte Windforce 4070 super is $900. What's the go with that?
This is probably the best review i could wish for rtx 4070 super. ty very much
No msi or rog strix?
The Asus Dual ist a great Card, especialy given the measures. It's quite thick (Close to 3 Slots) but only 26,5cm in length.
Recently got myself 4070 super Gigabyte Gaming OC and I must say that it's very silent while also very cool. In full load doesn't go above 60C and idle stays at 32C
Wow! That's kinda amazing for full load. You must live in a very chilly chill place, though.
@stonevicta In Eastern Europe, it's just normal weather 😅 Usually 22C in my house
i have a 4070 ti gigabyte aero oc, the problem with this card is that it has a hardcoded fan speed...i cant manually set the fan speed lower that 60% in msi afterburner (if i set it to 59% or lower it beeps non stop and trying to start like the fans start spinning for half a second but doesnt actually start), or any other software
do you have the same problem?
@thedawn-rt9rx That is very weird and I don't know if that's only something the ti GPUs have. For my GPU I set the fans to stop when it's below 34C and it works
@@dragos5640 yeah the problem isnt that i cant stop them, they only start spinning at 60 celcius (stock) and below that they turn off...the problem is i cant lower the fan speed from 60% when they start
Great review! Thank you!!
7:00 you want to look at 1% lows for this
I have the Zotac Edge OC edition and love it. ❤
Came to look for this because the MSI one has two fans and is smaller, wondered what impact that might have on temp/performance etc
Thank you for making this, really useful! I'm actually aiming for Zotac Trinity, small premium from msrp. Cool, quiet and 5y Warranty.
Wow 5 years warranty, in my country Zotac cards only offer 2 years of warranty.
@@VanJ78 it's 3y standard warranty +2 extended if you register via their website.
@@VanJ78out of the box they offer 2/3 years only but after registering the card you get extending warranty upto 5 years
@@justinhawk835 nah in my country, registering Zotac product doesn't extend warranty i see it in Zotac website in warranty policy.
@@justinhawk835 in my country registering doesn't get extended warranty according to Zotac warranty policy for my country.
Nice, thanks. I've been waiting for a review that compared the Asus Dual to the TUF...
It's nice to see someone review the Windforce. Now I know to avoid it like the plague, terrible noise/'C. :D
Please do this for the Ti Super.
Next video ;)
I love how you stuck GPUs 😊
Yo idk why half of the comments are trash talking the card, man I just wanna get something that can render and simulate faster than my 2011 Toshiba Satellite
the prices are mad, I have to stick with my 3070 for now and then pull the trigger on the 5070 right away.
already on my list for aaa games to play when I get the new card: Avatar, Horizon Zero Down 2, Alan Wake 2,what else?
no MSI cards?
Please add zotac's and msi's 4070 super in this comparison video or in future video cause those are also available in my area and I would like to know about those as well. Appreciate your videos.
Thanks! Usually I have more MSI cards but supply has been poor with this chip. No Zotac plans unfortunately. They’re harder to get here and Zotac hasn’t been interested in sending out any for comparisons.
ill be waiting for msi cards thank you for the info. Honestly there are only a few tech channels that are as to the point as yours, when it comes to hardware. Keep up the good work. @@TechTesters
Hello. What do you think about Asus ProArt GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER OC ?
im using INNO3D 4070 super twin for a month now,60 to 70c temp at gaming, fans are still silent af
Nice. Enjoy it!
Great! I, just bought the same GPU 2 days ago. Was it the OC version or the non OC version? This video is one of the very few really good reviews of it. But it's still working fine right? I haven't picked up the package yet, I saw today that the windforce model are on sale now for the same price so I've been wondering if I should replace it with the Gigabyte model. Is it possible to undervolt the card aswell or does it have a lock?
Any plan to do the same roundup with AMD cards?
If I can ever get my hands in enough cards in one class :/
In respect put the brands tested in description, some of us do not have time to watch or dig all the video. Tks
Well for me it's MSI Ventus 2X since it's the smallest
I recently got a 4070 super founders edition and it’s an awesome little gpu, and in my opinion it’s definitely the best one.
Yes never can find it stock though.
@@spike178best buy
I am going for Asus Dual 4070ti super so I am assuming it will also be quieter and cooler like non ti version here.
I have to ask you, is silent mode strictly about the fan curve?
Because i believe you can alter your fans individually in a different program without bios, or do you need bios mode in order to alter it?, otherwise that would be a rip-off
Those aren't bad temps for the junction and hotspot temps. The Gigabyte eagle OC and msi ventus 2x seem to be warmer on the hot spot at 85c+ and are louder so i'm looking to avoid those models.
I have the 4070 super aero and even the silent bios setting is awfully loud
Get the Asus dual or Tuf they are way More silent
That's my experience with previous Gigabyte cards, they have some annoyingly loud fans.
Cant you set a nice fan curve through msi afterburner?
@@cyberpunk59 Nobody is buying a card just to set a fan curve in afterburner
And btw the lowest rpm on the aero 4070 super ist 30% 1000rpm and it's still loud AF and u fortunately u can't set the fans under 1000rpm Wich is straight up dump
@@JJ-gk5tn I already heard this kind of speech before "ah nobody buys a 7950x3d to tinker with it, everyone buys a cpu for it to work the best directly"
If you don't tinker with your gpu at that basic level, an aero isn't made for you.
As for the minimum speed being 30% and still too noisy. I think your card has an issue. Because if in this test, they could reach as low as 32db just with setting the silent bios, which is very close to base ambient noise for a normal room, I have a hard time imagining it being as noisy as you describe it.
@@cyberpunk59 it's about GPU fans and not about a fuckin CPU bro
And nope I brought it back they tested it the cars is fine the fans are just loud and they said I'm not the first person who turn in a gigabyte card because it's loud
Honestly they look good but the fans are straight up garbage
Just trained in for a Asus dual 4070 super Wich has only two fans and still is way more quiet
In terms of GPUs I can only recommend Asus
Don't listen to these gigabyte fanboys
The GPUs from them are shit AF
So is the dual automatically not worth it because of that 80 degree memory temp
Super video. Thanks!
So how much is really 100mhz difference? I wondering about 2 cards, one have 2565 mhz, other have 2655 mhz. Even tho the price difference between t hem are like 40$. Is it really worth it?
Very helpful. Will you be doing a similar brand comparison for the 4070ti super and 4080 super?
4080 super is already up on the channel. Ti Super is coming in a few days!
i really dont understand the term mid range when talking about gpus because this card is a beast and has no issues with any game how is it only mid range id say the 4060 is mid range it can play most games very well but then some games might have a little trouble going over 60 fps
Nice content. Such a the great job.
My windforce is coming tomorrow
did you buy it, im considering get it too, but not sure if to go with gigabyte or asus dual since both are same size and windforeca has smaller fans.
@@yakaboy89 the dual is a dual fan and the windforce has a triple fan