His videos are really helpful . I'll never forget the time a pianist told me this etude was easy for her and usually the first given pbecause it was really a 5 finger exercise and really teaches some basics in pianoplaying yet these type of piano playing wasnt even possible until Chopin . Arm and hand was a new thing .Earlier keyboards were to weak to take the whole torso or even hand. Ive seen 1820 piano you have to be careful the keys have very narrow shallow depth and its strangely different . Yokoyama even in another language for 30 minutes is also good . Hand direction was the first thing I was helped by a teacher in getting ease over the keys and preparation already in the hands . Never lose sight of the chorale dynamic shape in left hand of course .
This was the most requested video for this series. Hope you like it! ProPractice Day 11 of 20: Chopin Étude in C Major, Op. 10 No. 1 Chopin Etude in C Major, Op.10 No.1 - ProPractice by Josh Wright
Dear Josh: your few tips sbout this study changed my life. I'm very grateful with you. Sorry my english. I'm an argentinian composer that try with the piano. The tips from Seymour Berstein helped me a lot too!
Just ordered it. Loving it. RUclips and online classes are really opening doors for me. Finding out there are actual ways to practice other than just battling through each note is a life-changer. Sigh. I just wish I'd had these opportunities sooner. And, in your class video, you mention the Cliburn winner in 2009 who was blind. Yes, it was Nobuyuki Tsujii from Japan, where I live. :) Amazing pianist.
Have you ever tried the technique where you play the first note in the right hand and then block (play together) the chord afterwards? This way you can still practice be rotation as a larger group... nevermind you did that at 4:52
Dav Toy Keep working hard! One thing I realize the more I practice and perform is that I still have SO much to learn. We never "make it" - we're always learning and growing. I'm happy that you find the videos helpful :)
its all fun and games when u have that 100 meters hand my hand only stretches to an octave maximum and it still sometimes accidentally presses the 7th note
Hi Josh, this one etude killed my hand.. How do you reach the figuration in the right hand starting on the E flat... yikes... it just hurts my right hand
not true . It is similar to Bach C M Prelude from WTC. If you cant hear beauty of the chorale and its harmony stay away from music go into business and be like Rump in dee whitehouse.
Mr. Wright, very good advice overall but I personally disagree with 1:37 about tilting the hand upward and then dropping thumb down on the 1st note of the next arpeggio. This will create those annoying accents on the 1st note of each ascending arpeggio.
My hands stretch easily to a 10th and still I thought this was impossible to play. UNTIL I started s-l-o-w practice, one measure at a time. I may never get to concert speed but my hand truly does adjust to the rigors required. My goal now is to memorize the first two pages so I can practice it anywhere.
I've been working on this one since 2010 but I'm sure I could benefit from Josh's full lesson. I second the request for a PayPal option. The other etude I do is Op. 10 No. 12, so I'd love to see a ProPractice video on that!
K46620 Thank you so much! I'll have to do all of the Etudes at some point. If you'd like to use paypal, email me at the email address in the comments sections and I'll send you instructions. I appreciate your support
When a piece is this fast, there is no shame in practicing staccato. Once you are playing at full speed wether you like it or not the notes are going to be connected because of how fast everything is going. It's virtually impossible to play staccato at the indicated speed. Staccato is leaving an audible space between notes but at full speed there is no way to leave any audible spaces! Practicing this piece staccato will help you train your hand to change positions quickly which is what you need in order to make the piece flow. Try letting go of the first note of each arpeggio like a hot cake and you'll see how this helps finding the next position quicker.
Hi Josh, thanks for sharing you knowledge in this piece, yes it is a tuff music to play with accuracy and perfection. I'm working on it for years and the progress is very slow, but the most important thing to me to make this piece easier is to avoid any stiffness, and play it with a soft touch. I have Miss Elsa Puppulo DVD and she shows some good advices too, specially about the round wrist movement. Also the Kogosowski book about the etudes gives good tips. I bought your video by paypal and to be sincere I'm a little disappointed because I thought you were showing with more details problems of fingering and of execution, but instead you loose a lot of time trying to play the etude at fast tempo and making a lot of mistakes. I'm sure you can play it well in correct time, but that is not the intention in a private lesson. You should tried to show with less speed, avoiding mistakes, and going more deeply into the study problems. That's my opinion, please don't take me wrong. I'm just giving you advice for your next lessons, try to play without rush, we know you are an awesome player and you do not need to prove it.
Murillo Moreira Hi Murillo - thanks for your comments. The whole purpose of the series is to give real-time work on the piece, not bring it in perfectly having just perfected it. It's impossible to be able to cover every fingering or execution issue within a 30-60 minute ProPractice video. I simply cover the concepts that I've found most helpful in my studies and own practice. I teach techniques in these videos so that you can learn to apply your own knowledge to help fix the problems.
Josh Wright Thx for your kindly reply Josh. I would like to hear your opinion about the fingering of the most uncomfortable arpeggio that is the F7 chord Measure31, C Eb A Eb, I use 1235 and not 1245 as suggested, what you use?
You're right on that one! The F7 arpeggio with ascending notes C-Eb-A-Eb is the hardest arpeggio of the piece. When I played it in the past I used 1245 fingering but it was difficult to play with speed and accuracy. I'm seriously considering revisiting this is étude; I'm older now and 1235 may prove easier. It would be interesting to get ten piano greats to give us their fingering of the infamous F7 arpeggio. Incidentally there is a way of cheating but I was too noble to do it. The cheat fingering is 2313. This way eliminates the awkward A-Eb stretch because it is much easier using 1,3 fingering on those notes.
crimple7 Yes, this cheating way is not comfortable to me also, there is even other way that is even worst, using both hands... but as is a study, the name says its main objective, to make as try to learn, I think the real tip for this piece is the total relaxation, total use of the weight of the arms, shoulders, loose of the wrist and so on. The more relax you play, the better and easier it comes.
Sala Jazz, it is true the more relaxed one plays the better the piece but that F7 arpeggio unseats all but professional pianists. In other words there are very few amateurs that can do it justice. If one also considers that the pianos in Chopin's day had a different feel to modern pianos, I'm guessing that perhaps that F7 arpeggio was easier to play on the piano on which Chopin composed the Op 10, No 1 étude. Maybe the width of the keys was less in Chopin's day. I'm not certain. It is interesting that the top pianists often do not divulge their fingering for difficult pieces. I guess I'll just have to look at some close up camera work in slow motion to glean the fingerings of the virtuosi. It must be remembered that some have innate ability ie a more supple wrist and less webbing between the fingers. Yet even the gifted have to practise. I'm completely baffled how Franz Liszt played this étude in front of the composer at first sight without having seen it before. He actually astounded Chopin with the way he played it, so much so that Chopin wrote a letter confessing to having a clandestine desire to steal Liszt's lexicon of technique!
This was helpful in all but, Paul Barton is one of the best on youtube to teach this song and use a lot of different techniques, like accenting the top melody note and really interpreting this piece. I'm just now starting to get to the Ashkenazy Vladimir level to playing this piece and I've been practicing and playing this piece for about 10 years now.
+Meta Art I wasn't insulting nobody here, but if you want to be insulting and immature, be my guest. I have bigger fish to fry than to be arguing with you. if you want to "defend" this pianist for some weird and lie about how he is way better than Paul Barton, your more ignorant than I thought. I can play the song better than him, I perfected it, and I can prove it. Been playing this song since I was 14. But you wouldn't know that now would you. I play this song like Leonid Egorov. You probably wouldn't know who that is but maybe you should look him up. But it's no point in arguing with you, probably don't even no much about music. Ignorance I tell you.
+Meta Art I wasn't insulting nobody here, but if you want to be insulting and immature, be my guest. I have bigger fish to fry than to be arguing with you. if you want to "defend" this pianist for some weird and lie about how he is way better than Paul Barton, your more ignorant than I thought. I can play the song better than him, I perfected it, and I can prove it. Been playing this song since I was 14. But you wouldn't know that now would you. I play this song like Leonid Egorov. You probably wouldn't know who that is but maybe you should look him up. But it's no point in arguing with you, probably don't even no much about music. Ignorance I tell you.
+Meta Art yea those are some pretty old school videos. But I was still winning talent shows and whatnot. either way not even worth my time. yea I know about that pianist that died from aids, you was really friends with him huh, just be lying huh. Bullshit all day. peace hope you find some kind of joy in your miserable life and get it together soon bro. Have a good evening.
u dind't said that this etude born for "elasticize" the confortable position of fingers 3-5 and 2-4, the difficult of this etude, speed a part, is fingering precision and tempo.. ergo, this is litteraly an etude and for perfection u have to study hard this p.s i'm studing it (i folllow another "tutorial"), very bastard chopin is in
Martijn Bergstra that's just for practice, when practicing it is advisable to experiment with all sorts of touches, plus, it is almost impossible to play incredibly fast arpeggios with complete legato
+Mister Easy Paul Barton can have you playing like Cziffra if you really take it serious and practicing his tutorials. This guy have not even come close to mastering this piece, and his hands look like they can use some exercising needs more muscle around the edges to get an even more crisp interpretation of any piece, especially this one.
Sorry,but I dissagree with the most of statements about practicing this etude...It is too too too much movements,and overall rotation???!!! In a speed of 176 hand schould move very close to the keybored,otherweise it generates too much movements wich requires a lot of energy wich makes then tension to compensate them...Slow untensioned practice,even very slow with minimizing movements,legato with constant thinking of the places where the tension might appear even by slow practice and finding a way of its release ( hand and its pattern of movements are very individual and have different ways of releasing tension,but what is common:tension appears by too much movements and that is what I observed by chance watching this video.The seccond important stuff:Thinkig in a terms of harmony constantly, and practice with the chords otherweise there is no much musicality in simple practice note by note.
His videos are really helpful . I'll never forget the time a pianist told me this etude was easy for her and usually the first given pbecause it was really a 5 finger exercise and really teaches some basics in pianoplaying yet these type of piano playing wasnt even possible until Chopin . Arm and hand was a new thing .Earlier keyboards were to weak to take the whole torso or even hand. Ive seen 1820 piano you have to be careful the keys have very narrow shallow depth and its strangely different . Yokoyama even in another language for 30 minutes is also good . Hand direction was the first thing I was helped by a teacher in getting ease over the keys and preparation already in the hands . Never lose sight of the chorale dynamic shape in left hand of course .
This was the most requested video for this series. Hope you like it! ProPractice Day 11 of 20: Chopin Étude in C Major, Op. 10 No. 1 Chopin Etude in C Major, Op.10 No.1 - ProPractice by Josh Wright
Josh is always groomed and dressed with suit and tie and good to see. His profile has somewhat of Chopin. He knows his instrument! Your the best Josh!
yes he is indeed
Dear Josh: your few tips sbout this study changed my life. I'm very grateful with you. Sorry my english. I'm an argentinian composer that try with the piano. The tips from Seymour Berstein helped me a lot too!
I really like how you play this etude. Each not feels a lot more connected than in many performances. Like a violin bow-stroke
This etude is very fun I love practicing it
Just ordered it. Loving it. RUclips and online classes are really opening doors for me. Finding out there are actual ways to practice other than just battling through each note is a life-changer. Sigh. I just wish I'd had these opportunities sooner. And, in your class video, you mention the Cliburn winner in 2009 who was blind. Yes, it was Nobuyuki Tsujii from Japan, where I live. :) Amazing pianist.
I think, it will be rewarding to learn that "folding" motion..... just elastic hand instead of nervous stiffness!
Have you ever tried the technique where you play the first note in the right hand and then block (play together) the chord afterwards? This way you can still practice be rotation as a larger group... nevermind you did that at 4:52
nice one. thats great .. i asked for it .. and now there is it :D. Def gonna buy it end of the month
Thank you Josh. You're so good! My dream is to become a great pianist one day.
Dav Toy Keep working hard! One thing I realize the more I practice and perform is that I still have SO much to learn. We never "make it" - we're always learning and growing. I'm happy that you find the videos helpful :)
thank you Mr. Josh. your lesson is very helpful
especially the block chords. ;) thanks a lot im thinking of purchasing propractice series as well as this lesson. worth it.
its all fun and games when u have that 100 meters hand my hand only stretches to an octave maximum and it still sometimes accidentally presses the 7th note
iKenzo still not fun and games and I can teach a tenth I’m sorry my man that must blow
Don't stretch. Move your hand. Drop your wrist on accents as Chopin wrote them.
josh can reach an 11th ( C to F) and i can barely reach a 9th with a somewhat comfortable octave
Hi Josh, this one etude killed my hand.. How do you reach the figuration in the right hand starting on the E flat... yikes... it just hurts my right hand
Outstanding. Great thanks.
culturehorse Thank you for your support!
awsome josh, keep up the chopin! love it
Dluu22 Thank you so much for your support
this etude sounds like nothing in a slow speed
Makes me seriously wonder how do you compose that lol
not true . It is similar to Bach C M Prelude from WTC. If you cant hear beauty of the chorale and its harmony stay away from music go into business and be like Rump in dee whitehouse.
@@MrInterestingthings bit of a stretch there, but ok
@@veganworldorder9394 i did
@@ruchirrawat8804 I know, but how ? It sounds like nothink when played slowly so how did you know that if played faster, it would sound great ?
Mr. Wright, very good advice overall but I personally disagree with 1:37 about tilting the hand upward and then dropping thumb down on the 1st note of the next arpeggio. This will create those annoying accents on the 1st note of each ascending arpeggio.
Not to mention, that "folding" thumb under crap is bad news. No pro does that.
My hands stretch easily to a 10th and still I thought this was impossible to play. UNTIL I started s-l-o-w practice, one measure at a time. I may never get to concert speed but my hand truly does adjust to the rigors required. My goal now is to memorize the first two pages so I can practice it anywhere.
how many time did u spend on learn 1 page of that etude?
Don't stretch. Move your hand. Drop your wrist on accents as Chopin wrote them.
I've been working on this one since 2010 but I'm sure I could benefit from Josh's full lesson. I second the request for a PayPal option.
The other etude I do is Op. 10 No. 12, so I'd love to see a ProPractice video on that!
K46620 Thank you so much! I'll have to do all of the Etudes at some point. If you'd like to use paypal, email me at the email address in the comments sections and I'll send you instructions. I appreciate your support
K46620 Just added the PayPal option to the storefront. Hope that helps :)
Josh Wright Thanks! Can't wait to get started
I like his speed in this piece, sounds like water drops on crystal glass.
I'm going to try this. I have small hands so I wonder if it's humanly possible for me to make these stretches.
great sharing!
Wooow
Very helpful!
Thanks
Do you think it's ok not to follow the indicated fingering if i feel more confortable with an another one in certains patterns ?
When a piece is this fast, there is no shame in practicing staccato. Once you are playing at full speed wether you like it or not the notes are going to be connected because of how fast everything is going. It's virtually impossible to play staccato at the indicated speed. Staccato is leaving an audible space between notes but at full speed there is no way to leave any audible spaces! Practicing this piece staccato will help you train your hand to change positions quickly which is what you need in order to make the piece flow. Try letting go of the first note of each arpeggio like a hot cake and you'll see how this helps finding the next position quicker.
Is it okay if I don't rotate my wrist because I just play the piece with my fingers and my wrist is just still.
What grade is this piece?
Thank you so very much
Hi Josh, thanks for sharing you knowledge in this piece, yes it is a tuff music to play with accuracy and perfection. I'm working on it for years and the progress is very slow, but the most important thing to me to make this piece easier is to avoid any stiffness, and play it with a soft touch. I have Miss Elsa Puppulo DVD and she shows some good advices too, specially about the round wrist movement. Also the Kogosowski book about the etudes gives good tips. I bought your video by paypal and to be sincere I'm a little disappointed because I thought you were showing with more details problems of fingering and of execution, but instead you loose a lot of time trying to play the etude at fast tempo and making a lot of mistakes. I'm sure you can play it well in correct time, but that is not the intention in a private lesson. You should tried to show with less speed, avoiding mistakes, and going more deeply into the study problems. That's my opinion, please don't take me wrong. I'm just giving you advice for your next lessons, try to play without rush, we know you are an awesome player and you do not need to prove it.
Murillo Moreira Hi Murillo - thanks for your comments. The whole purpose of the series is to give real-time work on the piece, not bring it in perfectly having just perfected it. It's impossible to be able to cover every fingering or execution issue within a 30-60 minute ProPractice video. I simply cover the concepts that I've found most helpful in my studies and own practice. I teach techniques in these videos so that you can learn to apply your own knowledge to help fix the problems.
Josh Wright Thx for your kindly reply Josh. I would like to hear your opinion about the fingering of the most uncomfortable arpeggio that is the F7 chord Measure31, C Eb A Eb, I use 1235 and not 1245 as suggested, what you use?
You're right on that one! The F7 arpeggio with ascending notes C-Eb-A-Eb is the hardest arpeggio of the piece. When I played it in the past I used 1245 fingering but it was difficult to play with speed and accuracy. I'm seriously considering revisiting this is étude; I'm older now and 1235 may prove easier.
It would be interesting to get ten piano greats to give us their fingering of the infamous F7 arpeggio.
Incidentally there is a way of cheating but I was too noble to do it. The cheat fingering is 2313. This way eliminates the awkward A-Eb stretch because it is much easier using 1,3 fingering on those notes.
crimple7
Yes, this cheating way is not comfortable to me also, there is even other way that is even worst, using both hands... but as is a study, the name says its main objective, to make as try to learn, I think the real tip for this piece is the total relaxation, total use of the weight of the arms, shoulders, loose of the wrist and so on. The more relax you play, the better and easier it comes.
Sala Jazz, it is true the more relaxed one plays the better the piece but that F7 arpeggio unseats all but professional pianists. In other words there are very few amateurs that can do it justice.
If one also considers that the pianos in Chopin's day had a different feel to modern pianos, I'm guessing that perhaps that F7 arpeggio was easier to play on the piano on which Chopin composed the Op 10, No 1 étude. Maybe the width of the keys was less in Chopin's day. I'm not certain.
It is interesting that the top pianists often do not divulge their fingering for difficult pieces. I guess I'll just have to look at some close up camera work in slow motion to glean the fingerings of the virtuosi.
It must be remembered that some have innate ability ie a more supple wrist and less webbing between the fingers. Yet even the gifted have to practise.
I'm completely baffled how Franz Liszt played this étude in front of the composer at first sight without having seen it before. He actually astounded Chopin with the way he played it, so much so that Chopin wrote a letter confessing to having a clandestine desire to steal Liszt's lexicon of technique!
How do you pedal this piece? I mean I got it but should I use the soft pedal as well in certain parts? It might sound better...
This was helpful in all but, Paul Barton is one of the best on youtube to teach this song and use a lot of different techniques, like accenting the top melody note and really interpreting this piece. I'm just now starting to get to the Ashkenazy Vladimir level to playing this piece and I've been practicing and playing this piece for about 10 years now.
Who cares?
Ashkenazy level? Deluded
+Meta Art I wasn't insulting nobody here, but if you want to be insulting and immature, be my guest. I have bigger fish to fry than to be arguing with you. if you want to "defend" this pianist for some weird and lie about how he is way better than Paul Barton, your more ignorant than I thought. I can play the song better than him, I perfected it, and I can prove it. Been playing this song since I was 14. But you wouldn't know that now would you. I play this song like Leonid Egorov. You probably wouldn't know who that is but maybe you should look him up. But it's no point in arguing with you, probably don't even no much about music. Ignorance I tell you.
+Meta Art I wasn't insulting nobody here, but if you want to be insulting and immature, be my guest. I have bigger fish to fry than to be arguing with you. if you want to "defend" this pianist for some weird and lie about how he is way better than Paul Barton, your more ignorant than I thought. I can play the song better than him, I perfected it, and I can prove it. Been playing this song since I was 14. But you wouldn't know that now would you. I play this song like Leonid Egorov. You probably wouldn't know who that is but maybe you should look him up. But it's no point in arguing with you, probably don't even no much about music. Ignorance I tell you.
+Meta Art yea those are some pretty old school videos. But I was still winning talent shows and whatnot. either way not even worth my time. yea I know about that pianist that died from aids, you was really friends with him huh, just be lying huh. Bullshit all day. peace hope you find some kind of joy in your miserable life and get it together soon bro. Have a good evening.
Suit by Armani; shoes by Ferragamo, Piano-forte by Steinway, counterpoint by Chopin, wig by Trump.
2:46
I paid for this video but I can't download it. Was that done on purpose?
now I'm practicing this song now. It's very difficult and I make mistakes.😥
Josh, is it possible to pay per Paypal?
federfuchsCh Yes - email me at the address listed in the comments section and I will send instructions :)
federfuchsCh Just added PayPal option for all videos. Hope that helps!
woooooooooow.so fast.really helpful video.
Qin Wensi Thanks so much for your support!
Woo. You are handsome!
u dind't said that this etude born for "elasticize" the confortable position of fingers 3-5 and 2-4, the difficult of this etude, speed a part, is fingering precision and tempo..
ergo, this is litteraly an etude and for perfection u have to study hard this
p.s i'm studing it (i folllow another "tutorial"), very bastard chopin is in
ممتاز جدا احسنت
my piano teacher used to always tell me to do that thing with elbows and now i don't know which is the correct way
same -_-
+Lelija45 the elbow can be used on certain passages but not in this case
+Lelija45 I was taught to do that elbow thing and Op. 25 No. 1 harp etude to really accent that melody and rotate your wrist.
did you invent airplane??
Why this question
@@veganworldorder9394 cause wright brothers
His father did
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Lol, it's a legato practice. Not portato.
Martijn Bergstra that's just for practice, when practicing it is advisable to experiment with all sorts of touches, plus, it is almost impossible to play incredibly fast arpeggios with complete legato
Paul Barton is free and not a lot of unscripted chatter.
Mister Easy I've enjoyed watching his lessons on occasion. Have a great week!
Mister Easy
I hate 'free'. Guy spent his entire life playing piano. Deserves profit for his work
+Mister Easy Paul Barton can have you playing like Cziffra if you really take it serious and practicing his tutorials. This guy have not even come close to mastering this piece, and his hands look like they can use some exercising needs more muscle around the edges to get an even more crisp interpretation of any piece, especially this one.
Paul and Josh are pianists that I learn a lot from and I'd be happy to pay a small fee for both of their perspectives
Both pianists have their allure. I wouldn't mind paying for Josh's full lesson if it's a piece i'm having trouble learning.
Sorry,but I dissagree with the most of statements about practicing this etude...It is too too too much movements,and overall rotation???!!! In a speed of 176 hand schould move very close to the keybored,otherweise it generates too much movements wich requires a lot of energy wich makes then tension to compensate them...Slow untensioned practice,even very slow with minimizing movements,legato with constant thinking of the places where the tension might appear even by slow practice and finding a way of its release ( hand and its pattern of movements are very individual and have different ways of releasing tension,but what is common:tension appears by too much movements and that is what I observed by chance watching this video.The seccond important stuff:Thinkig in a terms of harmony constantly, and practice with the chords otherweise there is no much musicality in simple practice note by note.