QTCinderella addresses the JustaMinx situation
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As a former addict, I hope this is a wakeup call for Minx. I probably never would have gotten clean if I didn't have friends that got mad at me and called me out on my bs at the time. I hope she isn't too far gone.
I've recently begun the process of getting help to recover, and I'm noticing that substance abuse seemed like a simple "solution" for some complex issues. Anything you could share about your own path?
@@kappanova1302 it gets easier the longer you do it, but id never call it easy. remember that progress isn't always linear. Remove people from your life that you did drugs with. Have a firm support system of medical professionals and friends or family. Therapy/psychiatry would be a great avenue to figure out what caused you to self medicate and properly treat it.
Sadly I’m not sure if it is. Her response she basically dodged mentioning of getting help or realizing she has a problem. She basically was like do I want to be minx or normal minx
@@kappanova1302 Sure. Got diagnosed with bipolar disorder in my mid 20s and sort of had a downward spiral from that combined with the end of a bad relationship. Ended up getting hooked on oxy and eventually heroin in addition to an already existing drinking problem. Then covid hit and I no longer had the responsibility of an in person job to keep me from being fucked up 24/7. Eventually had a few close friends and family tell me that even if I didn't care about myself and was suicidal, my actions were selfish and hurting them too. So I guess I learned that "self destruction" is a misnomer, it destroys everyone who cares about you too. Eventually got a psychiatrist and got my shit together. Breaking ties with people who sell/do drugs with you is also crucial. Good luck to you brother
@@bigtimebop I'm so happy you've gotten clean, and I hope your life keeps getting better and feeling more full💗 God bless you
I hope Minx can bet the help she needs. Her addiction is obvious to everyone, except Minx herself. Until she acknowledges it, and the harm that it is causing, all of this talk is moot.
She can't hide her responsibility behind a buzzword.
SHES GOTTEN THE HELP SHE NEEDED... but she did not take it and use it to better herself. There is a point where people need to stop blaming it on her "mental health issues" since she does have a choice to do better and strive to be better.
@@SUPERSTUDIO17 That Is what being an addict is all about. She does not or can not see that her addiction is a problem. Until she is ready to accept that fact, and be willing to change her life style and choices, she will always be in a cycle. Unfortunately, streaming and the fans that come with it make it difficult to change. Her drunk antics get her a lot of viewers, and that feeds into her addiction.
@@SUPERSTUDIO17 It is a mental health issue tho, and might be the reason she cant accept the help she needs.
You do know how mental health issues can work, right?
@@SUPERSTUDIO17 you don't know the person, tossing blame around doesn't do anything. Stop being parasocial and just leave it to the people who know her and her situation to deal with it
"I don't know how to help someone who doesn't want to be helped" is such a common thing unfortunately. You can try everything in your power to help someone but at the end of the day THEY are the ones who have to decide to get help and recognize that they have a problem. I hope this is a bit of a wakeup call for Minx and that she sees how much this is impacting the people around her as well as herself.
Yeah real change only happens when the person wants it and is willing to work for it.
I was a drug and alcohol counselor when I was younger and said to I can send someone to a 10trillion dollar rehab program and if they don’t want to get sober they won’t get sober
@@thetruth9952 From what I understand Minx has bpd and hasnt had a great relationship with alcohol in years so I doubt thats what is causing all of this.
Just like what Tyler1 said, keep helping even if they hate you. At least they are alive/still here to hate you.
Yeah. Even with suicide. I don’t like when people said “you should’ve tried harder” like who are you to say that? Who’s to say they didn’t try? It comes from both people. Its hard to help those who are so far gone that you can’t get through to them. No matter what you try. We shouldn’t blame either or. Everyone’s suffering differently. We can’t always depend on one person to be the one that fixes everything. Cause even they don’t know sometimes.
Sounded like QT hesitated in saying “ruined my night” 4:13 out of fear of it sounding selfish, but she put so much into it and stuck her neck out just out of kindness. “Ruined my night” is like the nicest thing she could’ve said
That's what I thought too. It shows how much she still cares about minx also. As she doesn't want to hurt her feelings too. Qt deserves alot of respect for all the work she does for everyone else but all she gets is hate and drama thrown her way 😕
Well it wasn't just QT's night being ruined either. I'm sure everybody else at the party was pretty bummed to have it shut down so early like that. I totally get being mad about Minx breaking her promise and ruining everything like that.
@@IGotNoJam both of them are dealing with something. Its hard to help others when you can barley get by yourself. People shouldn’t blame minx because it’s an addiction it isn’t that easy. But people shouldn’t also blame QT because she is as lost as we are. We shouldn’t be dependent on one person. That’s what causes mental break downs.
@@stellamariefanboy.6768 they should blame minx it was her fault lmao that’s how you enable an addict by saying it isn’t her fault
@@stellamariefanboy.6768 You should always blame an addict, but you need to do it loud enough for them to hear. Addicts usually aren't aware they're addicted and deny it, they figure they just enjoy drinking or drugs, they're not addicted. You will not break through their thick skull with pandering. You HAVE to be mean to them. You HAVE to exile them if they do not listen to you. What QT did can be considered public shaming but Minx is responsible for her own actions, even when under the influence. It's on Minx for doing what she did, and she should be blamed for it. I agree, it isn't easy, but going easy on them is going to get you ignored.
Separate note, What do you mean QT is lost? She doesn't seem lost. Seems like she knows what she wants - a friend who can uphold a promise even if the temptation is present. Minx couldn't do that, so QT exiles her.
Other streamers really need to throw a party or event for QT. The amount of time and effort she puts in to events and then has those events ruined by something outside of her control, such as the after-party or first attempt at the girls event would break a person with 0 mental health issues. It's inspiring to watch her keep putting in the effort and pumping out quality content with all the shit that gets in her way.
She does need a vacation. But like Minx she's addicted too. She's said in the past she strives and lives off the stress of being the organizer of the events. She probably wouldn't do well as a guest with her anxiety. She just needs a event that she plans that is secretly held up by everyone attending to make sure it goes perfect.
I meant more along the lines of an event of her caliber where she is allowed to just be a participant. To your point you would have to have her bring something more significant than a normal person would bring, such as an extravagant cake or baked goodies for the event or else she probably would be stressed about how little she is doing.
I get what you mean, but other streamers aren't obligated to do something for her just because she did something she wanted to do
Fuck no, what other streamers do for her is give her exposure, which she gets because the events she hosts are great her personality isn't though so I wouldn't focus on her that much
@@songschannel9059 this!
Man every single person in that room felt that pain. I mean I know Austin definitely since they were very close.
Yeah, sometimes I forget how involved minx was with everyone in the room (except maybe rae), thinking back to when they did name your price, and when QT brought minx to hasan's
Thats rajj
@@Brian_Gonzales Bro not for years...
@@SnailMan63 he'll always be rajj, just waiting till people realize how many N bombs and other stuff he said in the past when the new gen finds out since they just love cancel culture
@@Brian_Gonzales bro that's completely irrelevant...
It's classic behavior of someone with an addiction, they end up dragging people around them along the destructive path if this isn't a wake up call for minx i don't know what will be, last time i saw her on her stream even her chat was concerned about her drinking habits, every single stream was a drinking stream and she even passed out on a couple.
sometimes people need to have a wake up call thats harsher than losing friends my best friend destroyed his whole friendship with our friend group due to addiction and it took him going to the hospital to finally realize he needs to change took him two years to finally hit me back up and apologize and im glad that i can say we are a least friends again and hope to be as close as we once were
@@lildad559 that's awesome, I'm glad that had a healthier finish. I hope they remain free of their addiction, all you can do is support them and be there for them, make sure they don't fall back in it.
But ultimately it's their decision, I hope for the best for both of you!
Oh shit I didn’t know about this… but I have seen her on other streams absolutely sloshed and acting really weird and bad
It feel horrible to wait for a friend to stop destroying themselves, but it's the only thing you can do. You often have to stay away from them, for years.
@@legueu I am familiar with exactly that, had to deal with that.
Last I saw my friend has cut down a lot of the addictions he had, so I'm hoping progress is still being made ^^
These comments are way better than the ones on other platforms, the other platforms are absolutely destroying QT. The issue is if you have never known an addict, then you don't understand what this is like. I have experiences with multiple and QT is doing what is right by cutting her out. Addicts will destroy all lives involved as they spiral, they need professional help and not friends because they'll just use them and play guilt cards constantly.
lsf has the biggest hate boner for Qt and even they're on her side for this one.
I mean im just surprised QT even invited or was concerned when she was thrown out. At that point she should have told security to make sure shes gone.
@@barodrinksbeer7484 coz she considered her as a friend at that time. But now she had enough.
My sister was a drug addict, similar but also slightly different, still an addict, and it all depends on the person, sometimes cutting the person out of your life is the best decision for them, most of the time it’s the worst decision you could make and will ruin that person even more, either way I would never ever talk about her publicly in front of millions
@@smellprophet6606 They are content creators that were attending a content party. They are allowed to speak about their experiences, especially where public social media "unfollows" can start their own rumor mills. Whether or not cutting someone out of your life will ruin their life or not, it's not and should not be a factor when you cut them out. You have to prioritize your sanity and energy.
I feel sorry for Minx. She really does need help. But it's important to remember that she was sober before she started drinking that night, and that she made a conscious decision to defy QT's boundaries and showed a lack of respect for not just the people around her, not just QT, the person who she vehemently promised her sobriety to, but also a lack of respect for herself.
If she continues the path that she's going down, there's not going to be someone like QT to look after her when she does what she did at the afterparty, at Vegas, or many many times before, and it's not going to be QT's fault when something bad inevitably does happen.
everyone always say that addicts needs help. But the thing is its not that simple because even if help is provided, it is still up to them. Its hard thats why most addicts fails. only few get fixed in the end. For Minx's case though, i think its also mental issue. I think she is just anti social person and a little bit of alcohol amplifies it. I watch her and QT for so long. She did mess up multiple projects of QT that im surprise QT still let her in the party. I Like Minx in loveOrHost and her behaviour in that show is funny because its just a bit and not real life
Did you see the discord messages?? She was def drink when having a conversation about not drinking
@@jeanmuyuela8112 the fact she didnt even apologize says it all
@@jeanmuyuela8112 The problem is that it's impossible to help someone that doesn't want to be helped, and if not that, someone who doesn't want to take the steps in order to be helped.
She definitely needs help, and that's why I have a problem with QT blasting all over the face of the internet after the biggest award show for the circle this is all in.
She should have talked to everyone in the circle before shaming Minx in front of basically the whole world. I think QT is still in turmoil about the Atrioc shit and is redirecting that anger towards Minx. Call me out, agree, idc. Shouldn't invite an alcoholic to a situation where drinking is like, the THING, and you shouldn't shame them for fucking up in a situation they got obligated to join.
Minx already had tickets. Minx already had a plan for the night. Sometimes being kind fucks the routine up big time I mean come on we've all experienced stuff like that
I was a heroin addict for loooong time (around 7 years clean now,) and it took me losing literally everything in my life to recognize that I had a problem. It took complete isolation and homelessness. People do not get clean for other people, the only thing you can do is help and hope Minx sees what she's doing to herself. She needs to want to make that change for herself or she is never going to.
Exact same situation, I ended up driving my car to the Appalachian trail one day, breaking the spark plugs and hiking the trail for a year. Haven’t touched the needle in 4 years since I did that. It took complete isolation from people and suffering from living in the woods and reconsidering why I “relied” on drugs like I did.
it's amazing both of you guys were able to kick the needle. for a short time, i was addicted to melatonin and benadryl, but that's no where close to heroin. continue to stay strong and live well! remember you're all loved and cherished by those around you !!
Congratulations that can’t be easy
Bro shot heroin for seven years lmao
I do really hope Minx can get some help and get sober. It really sucks seeing friends fall down a rabbit hole of addiction like that.
Who cares lol
Right after she does good on her behaviour. Her mental state is not for the public to handle.
Lol that's the spirit
SHES GOTTEN THE HELP SHE NEEDED... but she did not take it and use it to better herself. There is a point where people need to stop blaming it on her "mental health issues" since she does have a choice to do better and strive to be better.
@@SUPERSTUDIO17 It has nothing to do with mental health issues, it has to do with the power of addiction which is extremely hard to beat. People making comments like that have no idea what addiction is or is like. It's not something people can just "choose not to do." They have to work on it for years, sometimes even the rest of their life. Getting clean from heroin is the hardest thing I have ever done in my entire life. I'm sure that sentiment is shared for any addiction that exists.
I’ve had friends like that in the past. It sucks that no matter how much friends around you try to help you they just can’t control themselves.
To me it’s not when they don’t get help themselves, it’s when they lie about actually getting help to friends but than doing the complete opposite. That’s what makes it hard cause you have no idea what to believe, at any moment they could just start again suddenly and you wouldn’t know. Unless of course you are aware and are available
addiction isnt a self control issue babe
@@F0URL34FCL0V3Ryeah but you can't help a person that doesn't want to be helped, and it's just so emotionally draining to have a friend like that
Good for QT for setting her boundaries & sticking to them. I'm a recovered addict myself, & she's absolutely right. You can't help someone who doesn't want help or even believe they need it. Minx is not QT's responsibility. But I sincerely hope that Minx gets the help she needs to start the road to recovery
She’s right to set boundaries, but making a video like this? I don’t think this is helping anyone. The guilt Minx will feel along with a plethora of other emotions will send her further down the spiral. Cutting off is fine, and her behaviour that night perfectly warrant anyone wanting to cut ties, but this public stunt does nothing.
@@effmltalks She has the right to address this in public when the other person is destroying her reputation in public.
Shes trash for airing this out onlime tho. Thats not helping anything its just showing people not to fuck up around her.
With mental health issues, there’s always this balance of “Hey, you are my friend, I want to be there and help you and etc” and “I need to separate from you for my own health and safety.”
Where’s that line? No clue. It’s so hard to find. I’m glad QT has. I hope Minx gets better and you guys can rekindle your friendship, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Addiction is a helluva beast.
The line is different for each person and the only way to know what your line is when someone passes it. It is a hard thing to go through.
As someone who struggled with alcohol for a good 6-7 years, i can say that its impossible to help someone who doesnt feel like they need the help. All you can do is watch them sink and hope that they have the self control to be better, accept help and rise back up. Ive seen this go the other way too unfortunately and have lost more than one friend from this world. Hopefully Minx can get her shit together
Did you quit entirely or are you now able to drink like a normal person? Asking as someone who is currently struggling with alcohol
@@DaemonJerky you just need to quit completely. Cause you're just making an excuse of just "drinking a little". It happened to my dad, who always has a promise on everything but eventually leads to the same thing.
@@DaemonJerky you gotta just quit my guy. Once I figured out that I was allergic to alcohol and understood that everytime I drank I broke out in handcuffs, and other bad choices that made piss poor impacts on my life. Life has been nothing but awesome since I gave it up.
@@DaemonJerky I cant drink at all. When i realized that this might be a problem, i stopped drinking during weekdays and would let myself have a beer on friday and one on saturday. Then i started buying both of those beers on friday and of course drank them both immediate. Then on saturday i would buy two because i got two on friday. Sounds insane but it felt perfectly fine back then. Took maybe a month and i was drinking daily again. At the peak i would buy a case (24 pack) on friday and drink like 16 beers and pass out. Then i would ''only'' have 8 for saturday so i would make any excuse to go out so i could buy a few more. Eventually i had to sell my car and even my phone to pay rent. Last thing i could lose was my gf and first kid. Shes the kind to pack up, go and not look back so when she told me that she might leave if i keep drinking, i knew she meant it. She didnt pressure me though and let me make my own choices which was exactly what i needed. One night i just said im gonna take a break. I knew then that im never drinking again but i didnt want to say that incase i relapse and disappoint her and myself. That was about 4 years ago and I havent drank since and life is actually good. Boring but good. Sometimes its hard to deal with the loneliness but it is what it is. From the moment of realizing that this is a problem, it took me nearly 7 years to quit. I wouldnt recommend trying to control it. Just quit completely and get your life back. There is a lot of great things and most importantly people out there but you have to decide on how you spend your time.
@@ville6338 yeah. Thanks for your story. Did you use a group like AA or one of the secular ones, or was this just with the support of your loved ones? Your story is pretty different from those I've heard before so I really appreciate your insight
This is perfectly understandable. People change as they grow up and people aren’t meant to be in your life forever.
I think drifting apart and cutting someone off your life is very different
yeah but this is literally an addiction and not changing the fact that you like tennis instead of football.
yes, but this is an addiction were talking about here
@@pinacolada2273 are you trying to say qt is in the wrong? Pinacolada?
@@pinacolada2273 so let me get this straight. If someone is going to hell and dragging you. You just accept it coz it's the right thing to do?
Have a few addicts in my family, my dad was one until it killed him, so when QT said "How can you help someone who doesn't want to be helped" that resonates with me on a personal level.
People need to understand that there's only so much you can do to help an addict, if that addict doesn't want to be helped then you will not be able to help that person.
The self-destruction is so real, I'd wash my hands of them too like QT did if they weren't family.
Thank god I didn't have friends like you.
If all my friends cut me off, when I was an addict then I would've killed myself.
I only stopped doing heroin b/c I ODd in April 2014 and spent a month in an ICU learned how to walk, talk again... 10 years sober in April
congrats on the 10 years!
very happy for you and your healthy recovery, i hope you keep the fight going strong
Lol heroin is so much fun though! It only killed a friend and damn near killed me... glad you pulled through. I wouldve drowned in vomit one night if a miraculous situation hadnt occured and someone showed up at that very moment (2 in the morning). Wow.
QT is so beyond strong, the amount is stress this woman has been through and despite all of that she still does everything to make quality content and celebrate other CC’s is just inspirational. And I do hope Minx gets help, addiction is extremely serious and can destroy lives.
The Murat cut 🤣
I felt so bad doing it 😭
@@fearandclips Murat only cut when?
A person I was very close to struggled with alcohol and mental health issues too. Vicious cycle of dependency, short term happiness, leading to longer term misery, repeat. Ruined my relationship/future with this person and leaves everyone taking an L. You cant bring people up with you unless they are willing to change, otherwise they will drag you down.
since the girls trip when minx throwed herself at the beerpong table and said to QT "what are you gonna do now?" we were already expecting something like this
is this in a video?
@@hana-rv6ru you can probably find the vod somewhere
@@hana-rv6ru literally can just search the ''minx jumping table'' or whatever on youtube. 2 seconds of time
unfortunately minx does seem to have an addiction issue and those issues only get fixed when they choose to change.
Who cares
@@Brian_Gonzales wow you seem very compassionate
@@degrassi420 Only the people who didnt care about me and just told me to fuck off, really helped me beat my heroin addiction. The people who were trying to “help” would just let me steal or use them to get more.
Qt is a really great person to be in streaming, she seems more responsible than so many people and I feel like a lot of people can learn mature behavior from her
A lil update if people are scrolling through comments and listening to this for the first time. Sykkuno responded, he wasn't getting pushed by Minx into the pool. He and Connor (CdawgVA)was trying to tell her not to jump into the pool because she was trashed. She wasn't listening, so Conner went over to stop her.
Edit: Just making this more accurate
*kill anyone but herself that night lmao.
Sorry but if I saw my mate so smashed they're not in control, I'm not letting them swim the pool. Sykkuno did the right thing if that's true.
@MrDucktastic Truee, though I'm saying that Minx attempting to swim would have been really bad. It's a good thing Sykkuno stepped in, I just feel bad since I guess people misread the situation
It was Connor (CdawgVA) who stoped her, at that time sykkuno was talking with conner just chilling when minxed joined in clearly drunk, at some point she kept insisting that they all go get in the pool and both sykkuno and connor kept telling her that it was a really bad idea but then minxed tried to run for the pool anyway and thats when connor grabbed her to stop her, thats when word got out that minxed was trying to push someone in the pool cause that was what it looked like from the other people watching them.
Connor already mentioned this to carify on what actually happend when people asked him about that incident during one of his streams.
My mom had problems like this except not just with alcohol and it’s scary to hear someone like QT saying the same things about Minx as my sister did about her. She’s a lot like QT in that she organizes and brings a lot of happiness into my family’s life and hearing her say that she’d tried everything in her power for 10 years and she couldn’t handle it anymore really hit me hard. We all made an effort but it just felt like we were getting nowhere. We tried rehab multiple times and sat down and tried to go through it to no avail. She died 2 years after that of overdose. A part of dealing with my grief was accepting the fact that we did everything we could. I still feel at times that I could’ve done more. If you’ve given your best to the people that you love then you shouldn’t blame yourself and I certainly can’t blame QT.
I use to watch Minx all the time a few years ago, she was always so charismatic and funny and chaotic (fun chaotic), so it honestly makes me sad to see all this recent stuff she’s been doing. From the whole SA allegations against that one guy, to her manic and scary episodes on stream, to now her alcoholism.. It’s sad to watch one of your previous favorite streamers spiral like this. I’m rooting for her to get better, but she has to want to get better herself.
Is this Minx that way back when played TTT with PewDiePie, Markiplier and Jacksepticeye?
@@goonerOZZ nope. I used to think that too but that Minx did a face reveal eventually and looks nothing like this Minx, not to mention sounds nothing alike. Must just be a popular internet name
@@rynnmedia oooh okay, thx... It may sound horrible, but somehow I am relieved that this is a different person than the one I thought this was.
@@goonerOZZi think the one you’re talking about is TheRPGMinx
@@j.ourney oooh yeah! That's the one!
Ever since moving to the UK, I’ve noticed that the drinking culture here is borderline insane (Italian here talking, so it’s not like I’m against alcohol)
Refusing any amount of alcohol is considered rude and offensive, deciding not to drink is considered boring and wasteful, and a ‘successful’ night out will have at least 1 person passing out and 1 out of their mind drunk, since teenhood at least.
Obviously, in America, they are bound to be a little more strict and judgy (like with cigarettes). Still, it’s essential to understand that UK people are borderline groomed into alcoholism from a very young age, and that is one of the most difficult things to come out of.
Edit: Also apparently she didn't ''tactically go limp'' to make things harder for people, she just straight passed out from too much alcohol, which I'm sad to say happens super often.
Unfortunately you’re right. And then people get upset when you reveal that you’re an alcoholic or let them down in some way.
Also she is Irish not British, where the problem is somehow even worse
@@Mogeli Shoot sorry idk why I assumed she was from Northern Ireland
Tbf the drinking culture in the UK and Ireland are extremely similar so I think your example still stands
I’ve been to the country that drinks more alcohol per capita (Korea) but honestly felt like Ireland had more of a drinking problem. It seemed like everywhere we went, at any time of day, you could meet someone who was functionally drunk. The actual “start of the night” seemed to be around 3-4PM and people were already hammered by 6. I loved Ireland but man….that was crazy. (I’ve also been to the UK, it was nowhere near close)
Part of her problem in my view is that Minx's "character," or rather her outward personality is enhanced by the alcohol. I've met people like that where they only think they are fun and sociable/likable while drunk. It's so sad, but out (viewers) reaction to her antics is a form of enabling.
But at the end of the day, she is responsible for her own actions. If what she is doing is hurting others, then she needs to actually work on that. And in cases like these, she can't be surprised when people draw the line.
yeah, Minx has made several comments about how she drinks to deal with her social anxiety on her stream, I know she also has other mental health problems and addiction in her family. I hope she can get some help before things get any worse
I watch a lot of Lud's vids but not very religiously. Even then though I am aware. Despite not knowing this woman or watching her content the amount of sheer work she puts into the community and everything she does is beyond outstanding. She burns bright to shine light onto others. It's about damn time someone recognizes her for her talent, her hard work. She's honestly inspiring.
Very eloquently and maturely explained. Respect
Sadly you can only help someone who want to be helped. While it is rather sad that she clearly an addict by the sound of it, if you as a friend already have tried to handle her situation you don't have to Marty yourself for someone you already have tried to help
I turned to Alcohol after I left the Marine Corp to cope with my Anxiety and Depression disorder and it only made things worse for me. I genuinely hope Minx can seek help and sober up because I remember before I sought help I lost a lot of my own time, friends, finances, and dignity because I refused to seek or ask for help.
i feel so bad for her, i know exactly what this feels like. it's so hard to cut ties with someone you genuinely love and care for when they simply become too toxic to be around but it's necessary. Even though its necessary, you feel immense guilt. Just horrible for everyone involved.
As someone who is literally typing this from rehab, I really hope she gets the help she needs. Alcoholism is no joke...
I feel bad for minx, obviously, addiction is not easy, but it's also infuriating. I hope she realizes how awful she's being to people who care about her and help herself.
QT is spitting facts. A person cannot help another person if said person doesn't want to be helped. Minx has to come to her own realizations instead of people trying to give her a lifeline, especially since she believes there isn't a problem and takes abuses the advantages she is presented with. I hope someday Minx gets help for her mental health.
After you have helped someone and they show that they don’t want to get better often the best help you can give them is to show them exactly what they are losing to feed their addiction. Hopefully she hits rock bottom soon and gets the help she needs.
I’m dealing with a similar situation with a family member. the lying is what really hurts because you still remember who they once were and just want to help them be back to who they used to be before addiction. you give them so much of your resources; energy, time, money, and get what in return? blatant lies. it hurts.
like she said, how do you help someone who doesn’t want to be helped? I used to be like that and I don’t know if anyone could’ve pulled me out of that place but myself because I hated anyone who tried to help. after giving so much to someone who just tosses it away, you have to pull back for your own sanity. it’s hard because you know that the addiction has a hold of them, but after a point, there’s nothing else you can do but hope that they realize how much they’re fucking up.
Yeah happened to my dad too. Promise to not be drinking again, let it cool down for a week then gets hammered everyday. Constantly lying. Constantly making excuses.
It hurts to see QT go through all of this. I do not watch her content, but just hearing talk about her situations in interviews makes my heart bleed for her. She really tries to do amazing things, but then something or someone messes it up.
I'm with QT 100%. Had a previous friend do something like this at my house warming party. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped.
For me it’s when they lie about whether or not they’re getting help. Like bro I want to help you but it’s like I can’t look away for even a second because every time I do, you just revert back.
@@stellamariefanboy.6768 very well put. my feelings exactly.
She was literally drunk in the discord messages "my girl in a mans world" being goofy in a serious conversation is pure drunk shit
I thought so too, she wasn't black out, but definitely seemed drunk
Bernie is really fucking listening to what QT was saying
I feel very bad for QT and all who were friends with Minx, and I hope Minx can bring herself back to a better state of mind. Rae looked pretty devastated the entire time and I was very much echoing the same response. Very sad to hear.
addiction isnt a easy for anyone involved. Good on QT for setting boundaries and following through on them. whole situation is just sad honestly.
Sykkuno even said that she wasn't trying to throw him in the pool, he was trying to stop her from jumping into the pool.
That explains a lot. I've liked minx too, but she's become a completely different person, in terms of dramas and what not she is in.
So for that to be addiction. That's fucking rough. I hope she gets therapy at some point.
I really hope Minx gets the help she needs. She seems like a good person who just has a lot of mental health struggles. You can only help another person so much - eventually they have to want it and seek help themselves, and it's healthy to set boundaries. Well said by QT. I really admire not only the great work she's been doing in putting on these big events, but also how she carries herself, even in these difficult situations.
I hope the people around Minx are okay and get help if they need it.
I hope she pulls through. I lost my cousin to addiction and that's not an experience I'd want anyone to go through.
As someone who had an alcoholic friend I can safely say it's a seriously self destructive disease that does not ever go away. It will consume them and everyone around them until they actively try to get help on their own. No one can save them. It's truly sad
Minx is the same chick that laughs at S/A victims, then blamed it on her BPD acting up. She frequently gets drunk on stream to the point her Mods end up cutting the broadcast abruptly. She's gets sent to the hospital frequently and is held under supervision for her safety and the safety of others, MULTIPLE times. This kind of person is extremely draining to deal with. Cut that bad energy out of your life asap. You don't need friends like minx.
I needed a best friend to call me out on my drug abuse and using in front of him. I'm so grateful he did. I'm 8 years clean and happy
I’ve had a friend like that before….. QTC the secret to helping someone like that who doesn’t want to be helped?? Is you can’t.. They have to want it for themselves… There’s nothing anyone can do or say, they have to find it within themselves. You shouldn’t feel guilty at all for having to cut her out of your life. You can only be a good friend to a certain extent before you have to prioritize self preservation… as heartbreaking as it is, and as much as you feel like you might be abandoning this person… There’s only so much you can do and so much of yourself you can give.
Even harder when you’re dealing with your own shit. Everyone expects QT to just know what todo but she doesn’t know herself especially since she’s dealing with issues of her own.
i was an alcoholic and in denial for 7 years. and qt is right, you cannot help someone who does not want to be helped. i would do the same, promise not to get drunk to convince people to give me a chance to go out and say “just one” and end up completely reckless and wasted. and i would play victim every single time. i would be covered in bruises, sick all the time, and throwing up everyday like it was normal. if minx cannot accept she has a problem and is deflecting she does not want the help and qt does not have to burn herself out keeping someone who is struggling but bringing others down w them. i needed to be called out on my behavior instead of the coddling i got. once i got a rude awakening from my parents is when i snapped out of it.
Minx has BPD. As much as many people say they have mental health issues, BPD is another beast and I really feel sorry for her. While depression and anxiety are among the most treatable disorders, BPD doesn't respond well to medication, and its nature leads people to "self medicate" in destructive ways.
Woah, absolutely do NOT diagnose other people on the internet. It's incredibly harmful, and misinformation helps no one
@@Gladiva19no, like, she’s literally come out n said she has bpd. They aren’t diagnosing her
minx has always seemed strange. not sure what's really going on. but hopefully she can turn things around for herself.
straight up props for how you handled everything
Addiction ruined my marriage and so many other relationships. I'll never forget the Jekyll and Hyde switch when my wife started drinking again or the feigned 'black-out' lack of remembrance. My friends and father alike carried themselves down similar paths and whilst in some moments they shone so brightly present as could be, slowly those blooms came to a wither and the circle they found themselves in had all but faded to just them and them alone at the end of the day surrounded by only the fractured relationships of once flowering friendships. It's like a necrotic rot from an internal parasite that can only be surgically removed by the host themselves after they've fallen deeply enough into their hole that they finally can embellish some form of self-accountability to pursue getting clean and in redeeming themselves further restore that which they can salvage. While it is a long road, it is worth it to meet yourself again when you can finally put down whatever vice it is that you may cling to, there is so much peace in it not only for yourself but those around you just as well. Get clean for your future selves and for your future relationships, they deserve that peace just as you do now.
Damn, Austin really did get end up with that jacket in the end 😂
QT is very empathetic, if she’s gotten to the end of what she can handle and do, I’m pretty confident she tried everything she could. I didn’t know minx had an addiction, because be wonder why she seemed to disappear awhile back and I thought maybe it was just drama which I don’t follow, but this isn’t drama, this is a humanbeing who is stuck in their addiction, and I just hope Minx can get better, because she is a massive talent, and when she’s on streams where she has to act, she adds so much chaotic fun energy. I seriously hope she overcomes her addiction. She deserves to be able to live life soberly and enjoy how much people appreciate her, and he addiction won’t even allow her that.
Alcohol is as bad as being addicted to heroin. I watched my dad wither away because of it. I hope she can get her life together because it is tough as it gets to get off that poison
Honestly alcohol does more bodily damage than heroin by far
my mom was a heroin addict turned alcoholic, and i got addicted to opiates as well. alcohol ultimately ruined my moms body and killed her.
It isnt. Most alcohol drinkers arent addicted. All heroin takers are addicted.
@Armin that sounded to ignorant it's not even funny. Have you experienced to be with an alcoholic? Or someone that had an addition before?
@@eternalgamers10 Bro Most people in the world drink alcohol. For the vast majority it is no big deal.
@@eternalgamers10 Think about it if the same amount of people on this Earth that so much as tried alcohol once in their lives, had done heroin instead, imagine what that world would look like…
This shouldn’t even be an actual discussion or comparison between the two, but at the end of the day all long term addictions can lead to destructive and fatal repercussions, stay safe kids
Hopefully she hears this and takes it the right way, people can’t get sober unless they really want to and learn that it’s just something you have to give up
Sykkuno even said she didn’t try to throw him in the pool. She was trying to go in the pool but she never tried to throw sykkuno in the pool.
My grandfather was an alcoholic, his kidneys failed out on him, long story short it was a long painful unessary death. Just because he was glued to the liquor, he was a really talented carpenter he could build a house with his eyes closed. And dose a damn good job at it. But he threw all that away for the liquor. Let's hope minx learns from this and gets the help she needs. But that's on her end of the day unfortunately, That's why I prefer to smoke weed.
You can become dependent on weed. Just don't make the mistake of thinking that the same kind of behaviour is okay because it's weed.
“Keep reaching out your hand.”
That’s all any of us can do. Whether they take it or not is their choice. All we can choose is to keep trying.
I just recently cut some family off and it's heartbreaking to see them just spiral down without you because during the time of your friendship, you're their rock but it sucks cuz you try and try but they don't truly appreciate you and try to change so they no longer need you as that support rock. I hope Minx learns how her actions can really hurt those she's close with cuz the path she's going down now just leads to solitude and depression. It sounds like QT did all she could to help but she has her limits too, she can't always be there for Minx, she's got her own shit going on.
I've had a friend who also struggled a lot with certain things in their life. The problem is that when they can't help themselves you won't be able to help them.
I've had to cut them out of my life because they were dragging me down with them. It's a hard choice to make, and it sucks so much to see someone you care about cause you and themselves such suffering. But you have to think about your own health too.
lmao murat opening the door
Addicts will promise you everything but changing. I've dealt with an addict for 14 years and you get tired of trying to change them. I know how QT is feeling right now. I don't blame her.
As someone who has been in similar shoes to QT it fucking kills you inside when someone you knew for so long and cared so deeply about succumbs to addiction...Anyone who's genuinely giving QT shit for cutting Minx off doesnt know shit...if she truly did try everything she could to help her and Minx still refuses to get better I stand by her 100% of the way...its not your JOB to help or fix other people and you can even see in her expression that shes just exhausted from all of this...shes hurt, she feels betrayed, its not a great feeling all around and Minx...I truly do hope you get the help you need...Alcohol addiction is insidious and I hope the best for both of them
I feel bad for Austin. I know him and Minx were real good friends.
I hope this is what makes minx realize how much pain she’s caused
This is a very unfortunate situation i know people who are\have gone threw the same thing. This is really sad.
In some situations like this you can help from a far, but that's if the addict has to completely rely on you. Because when you are near they know that you will help them with their downward spiral, they expect you to catch them. Either way situations like these are complicated and it's sad knowing about their condition.
as much as addicts need to be centered and shown kindness and understanding, the people they victimize need to also be shown that same respect. when a person hurts you enough, it does not remain your responsibility to hurt and damage yourself further for their benefit. it is okay to disconnect and pull away. you can't let yourself get blown up in someone else's self destruction. even if they improve, you do not owe anyone any kind of relationship. "i hope you are better, or get better, but please do so separate from me" is a healthy sentiment.
as a user and abuser of substances most of my life this sounds hard to hear Minxs sounds mentally unhappy and unstable.
having been in a spot where i just drink daily. It is 1000% easier to be destructive than to be try and change and if they aren't happy they wont.
give it time and tell the person straight up to their face "you have a problem sort this shit. You need to show them that you understand but wont take the shit.
god, I hope she can recognize that she's not in the best state and get help. I've struggled so much with addiction and I just want the best for her.
Minx was and still is one of my favorite streamers, I hope she gets the help she needs. My mom was an alcoholic, it's hard having someone in your life who struggles with alcohol.
I never really got into streamers but always had a soft spot for minx. I hope she gets the help she deserves.
QT just surrounded in having to drop friends..
Almost like streamers don’t make very good friends.
The painful thing is that you can keep pushing someone to get help, and resentment can build if they don’t. Taking a step back might be the only way for QT to not completely resent her friend, which is absolutely valid bc addiction is awful
I'm 11 years sober, don't trust anything an alcoholic says to you. The vast majority of alcoholics have all the best intentions and really do care about the people they love and hurt, but as long as they're still drinking you will always take second place, they will always betray your trust.
Sometimes, the best thing you can do for that person is walk away.
More often than not, there is very little you can do for them even when they truly seem to want your help, they alone have to take the steps towards sobriety.
When they take the steps towards sobriety that's when you can be the most helpful, tothe alcoholic or addict.
Only when the fog lifts will they truly see the damage they have done and take the steps to fix it.
I’ve never really watched QT but I have tuned into the drama lately and she’s just been rolling with the punches lately, and in my opinion, with a lot of grace and professionalism. I never watched Minx either aside from some shorts here and there with Schlatt. I can say however that I hope she gets the help she needs.
QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:
I’m in a similar situation right now with a (probably former) friend of mine where I am Minx…
It wasn’t quite as bad as this but that friend is pretty much done with me right now judging by his words. I’m also blocked everywhere and have made so many mistakes which have been forgiven so many times. Alcoholism, mental stuff like paranoia jealousy etc. , one-sided feelings (he’s straight, i’m not) all played a role.
I found a therapist by now, I attend AA meetings sometimes and I try to make other friends so it wouldn’t put pressure on our friendship again him being my only real friend at school.
He is genuinely one of the greatest guys I’ve ever met and I feel so f*ckin aweful that I managed to f*ck this friendship up so hard.
I don’t know how to approach him when I see him in school again in 2 weeks or if I even deserve to. All I know is I would do anything to fix this mess and I would be really grateful for any advice.
Love ya’ll have a good one.
As someone else on the other side, don’t do it unless you are sure you won’t hurt them again. I lost my childhood best friend from mental illness/drugs. If she came too me confident that she was better and did ANYTHING to break my trust that would be the end of it. Point blank. He’s already past the point where he doesn’t want to interact with you. If anything I would wait for him to come to you, if not, then you need to learn that sometimesyou fuck up and people don’t need to forgive you. As much as it sucs
@@lillybee2951 thank you for your words. helped me understand his side a bit more.
we talked about it and he wants some distance which is healthy i suppose.
2 months or so until start of 2024 which i suggested.
at leasts we say hello again and we don‘t look at each other sad / angry anymore.
he knows i would do anything for him and i will help him get through school grade-wise whenever he needs me.
i will work on myself so whenever he decides to approach again he can trust that i will be there for him and reliable no matter what!
so far i‘m doing well not causing drama and giving him space.
still a lot of work ahead but he promised he‘d leave the door a bit open if he notices that i‘m making a change for the better.
best dude ever
seeing that shadow creep up from behind I thought minx snuck into the studio
Sadly you can only help someone so much if they’re not willing to accept it
Side note, having an after party on a residential house is a very, very dumb idea. Specially when money is not really an issue
Has everyone been distancing themselves from Minx? She used to be around the lot of popular streamers but I've noticed it's not the same anymore
Feels like it. Everywhere she goes something toxic happens and she's always the common denominator
Yup, she said it best at the end, you can do absolutely everything imaginable for the betterment of an individual you deeply care about and they can return the favor by telling you to fuck off.
Sadly, other than interventions and therapy, this is sometimes what has to be done. An addict’s mind is fundamentally changed and fucked up by a substance such that VERY little can hurt them more than not getting their fix. Sometimes, this is what it takes. Loss of a lifelong friend and getting called out. You have to sometimes do things that seem overly cruel, or like you’re punishing them, because it’s genuinely the only thing that might get through to them.
I had a friend like that, and I offered to help him straighten out his life, as long as he stayed clean. He agreed, then came to find out he went into another friend's work to find something to make lines with and was waving the bag around with the substance in it. I had no idea he was doing hard drugs, I thought it was just pot and alcohol. I made the mistake of not blocking him; months later, he was messaging me to drive hours and come give him a ride because he was out of money and stranded. Had no choice but to block him, it hurt, cause he's a great guy, and a childhood friend but I wasn't gonna stay friends with him to my own detriment. What QT did is wholly understandable and is well within her rights. With these types, there is a fine line between helping and enabling.
I get QT, aside from the fact that she wanted to trust Minx, imagine putting so much effort and money in something to get ruined so fast.
Obviously money is not the most important thing but it does add a lot to the frustration and disappointment towards Minx, hopefully Minx gets the help she needs , and I feel sorry for QT
Been here. Best thing to do is express your feelings and dont sugarcoat anything. Explain their awful behaviors and cut em off like you did. Theyll either wake up and get help. Or continue a path of self destruction. Some people gotta learn the hard way. Hoping for the best on both sides.
Bernie in the back just listening in.
Minx is the person that I refuse to become. I used to see her as someone with BPD still doing stuff that others do, still being 'socially acceptable', now I see her as someone who has let it get the best of her, definitely let the view count get to her and a person that (like QT said) doesn't want to be helped. QT did very well, more than enough to try and help Minx, now the only person's health she should look out for is her own
Not hating i wouldn't be able to deal with it either but when people say "ive tried everything" they didnt try everything they asked her to stop drinking a couple of times lol
You can’t help someone that isn’t going to help themselves.
An intervention, rehab, is usually the only road out. Addiction is such an easy road for the brain to go down. There is a lot of help out there for the affected friends because there are proven paths out.
The person is too far deep to help themselves, it's literally outside their control. Unfortunately it requires the people around the addicted person to intervene.
Asking someone not to drink, even begging just won't work. They don't have control over themselves at that point. They will need to be physically prevented from access until their brain can escape that loop.
Minx needs rehab. She needs a push to just get in it.
“I don’t want to start anything, but let me discuss this very personal matter on a public podcast”