The Sauber-Mercedes C9 is one of a handful of cars that could top 400kmh on the old Mulsanne Straight. 730hp and only 1995lbs!!...it is a fitting car to wear the 'Silver Arrow' name :)
Stefuu exactly. as a german car guy that is the First thing that comes to mind when i hear "kkk" too Bad for our American gearheads that some fuckers over there give the three k's a Bad name😂
Master T That really is an unfortunate combination of letters. Funny story, where I live they teach a "KKK rule" for treating open wounds (in english it's something like cold, elevation, compression). You could snap an interesting photo of an elementary school class with a big KKK plastered on the blackboard.
God, seeing that XJR-9 brings tears to my eyes. I remember that historic day, when the three silk cut cats crossed the line at the same time. It was an historic moment, when a normally aspirated car claimed victory amongst turbocharged opposition.
Group C is my favorite racing category ever!! (with Group B rally and IMSA GT cars) The 80's wasn't only the best time in music, but also in motorsports! So much individuality!
I think only the Lambo and the Aston fall under "you may not know about" on this list, most people that know Group C probably know all the other cars quite well. Also, the Countach QVX technically isn't a Lambo, but a Lambo engine in a Spice chassis.
@@siniydenSheldon's 1984 crash was in the Nimrod Aston Martin not the AMR1in this clip. I know it's an old comment but it might save other people's confusion.
Thank you for this video. I miss the Group C so much. For decades my friends and l would make the trip down to Sebring and by far the most exciting era with the BEST sounding cars were the Group C years. Big thumbs up!
The rules didn't specify engine types but that didn't mean they were lenient. They specified fuel allocation. Sure, you could have any engine you liked as long as you could get the most energy from your fuel allotment. It was, in fact, a fuel economy formula. Greenies, hippies and tree huggers rejoice. It was not an engine free-for-all in any sense but it probably was the golden age of motorsport. That said, there's more bull talked about Group C than just about any other formula, save for the old Group 5 from the late 60s / early 70s.
That was a pretty good video.....The Aston did sound really good, like you'd expect from a warmed up V8, but the C9 Sauber really was the meanest sounding car in Group C......Even with Turbo's it still sounded 100% Grunty V8.
Buddy, the 956 is a rare Gr.C? WTF?, the 956 IS the most iconic Gr C car. Find "nobody is perfect" The 956 was extremely relevant in some new gadgets, was the first racecar to use a double clutch gearbox for example. Also de LC2, C9, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Nissan (IMSA IMSA IMSA), are all well known Gr.C/IMSA GTP cars. "Rare" are the Cougar C01, Rondeau M482, Mazda 727 (Gr.C Junior), the WM's the Nimord's (extremy ugly cars :P) and so on. The motorsport history is not the cars that appear in Forza and Gran Turismo...
GeraArg The 956 isn't as well known as the 962 because it wasn't run as long as the 962 was. The 962 had a street legal version sold in Europe which ended up being the basis for a "GT" class car which won the overall at LeMans over cars which were more modern in 1994 (the Dauer 962) and a 962C also won a race in the All Japan Grand Touring Car Championship (JGTC, now named the Super GT series) in 1994.
@@siniyden The 962 was originally built for the IMSA rules in the USA were the Drivers feet must sit behind the front axle.Porsche been Porsche and or course to save costs running two spec's of cars just upgraded all the cars to the new 962 spec , from the outside they look almost the same , but I guess minor upgrades from the race program 956 cars. Still the 956 is the star of one of the best collection of in car video's of all time Rothmans In Car 956 that includes full speed laps of the old layout at Le Mans and the last full on hot Lap of the Nordschleife no demo laps recorded at amazing quality even by modern standards and most driven by Le Mans legend Derek Bell.
Having seen the Aston AMR1 at Paul Ricard, it's one of the loudest Group C ever. Even at 600m from me the engine sound still covered all the cars closer to me.
Nice video man...... i really like the different engine configurations...always keeps it interesting......I also like the liveries on these grp C cars they all look so iconic!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
REALLY good video, Thanks to VisioRacer! Small error - the Nissan ZX you featured was only single turbo. It used the VG30ET engine developed from the one found in the Z31 300zx turbo road car.
Hey buddy you named one of my favourite Group c Cars ever the lamborghini countach qvx which is one of the Best looking cars for me obviously i have this in 1 43 scale painted blue but as always good video ;-)
I know!! Also that car at full boost is making more like 900hp. It was one of the more powerful cars in the C2 class cars. But since it doesn't go over 230mph like the C1 cars can. Its a C2 car. But yes that blow off vaulve.
"You may not know about," isn't a very good title considering you put some of the most famous Group C cars on this list, also showing an XJR-9 at Spa when the car on the list was the XJR-8
There should be a class of racing where they allow the competitor to do whatever they want to their cars. No restrictions on engine size or turbos. No restrictions on downforce of driver aids. Let them go absolutely freaking balls to wall insane. It would be freaking awesome. You would have cars out there with 2500 hp and 4000lbs of downforce. Make all the races at least 300 miles long so plenty of laps to push the engines and cars. That would would be worth watching.
The Sauber-Mercedes C9 is one of a handful of cars that could top 400kmh on the old Mulsanne Straight. 730hp and only 1995lbs!!...it is a fitting car to wear the 'Silver Arrow' name :)
That is probably the least important thing about it.
To all those woundering what KKK Turbos are those were made by Kühnle, Kopp & Kausch (KKK) and are now known as Borg Warner K-Type Turbos.
Stefuu exactly. as a german car guy that is the First thing that comes to mind when i hear "kkk"
too Bad for our American gearheads that some fuckers over there give the three k's a Bad name😂
Master T That really is an unfortunate combination of letters. Funny story, where I live they teach a "KKK rule" for treating open wounds (in english it's something like cold, elevation, compression). You could snap an interesting photo of an elementary school class with a big KKK plastered on the blackboard.
Well making jokes about their name was fun while it lasted
God, seeing that XJR-9 brings tears to my eyes. I remember that historic day, when the three silk cut cats crossed the line at the same time. It was an historic moment, when a normally aspirated car claimed victory amongst turbocharged opposition.
Visio Racer, your english narration is getting MUCH better! I always enjoy your videos.
Group C is my favorite racing category ever!! (with Group B rally and IMSA GT cars)
The 80's wasn't only the best time in music, but also in motorsports!
So much individuality!
Well, Mr. Goldbar, I'm in. Never saw IMSA GT though, because I'm Dutch.
These are probably some of the most know group C cars BTW...
The Wolf Gaming And?
@@og42a it completely defeats the purpose of the video
Most of these cars have been in on ore more grand tourismo titles
The 956 and the c9 yes, but the other ones not so much
@@jonasschiefer626 xjr8?gtpx?
I think only the Lambo and the Aston fall under "you may not know about" on this list, most people that know Group C probably know all the other cars quite well. Also, the Countach QVX technically isn't a Lambo, but a Lambo engine in a Spice chassis.
Not a Spice chassis....try the Tiga GC286 (or GC285?) ;) there are many other unusual Group C cars with odd engines that need to see the light of day.
i saw AMR1 in many videos including John Sheldon`s massive crash . But i didnt know about lambo
@@siniydenSheldon's 1984 crash was in the Nimrod Aston Martin not the AMR1in this clip. I know it's an old comment but it might save other people's confusion.
2:21 that moment the rotary is so loud you can hear it from inside the Nissan
Well, the cars can't really cancel noise all that well xD.
Godzilla
Yes captain obvious
jody024 Okay capitan oblivious.
The flutters though were nice as hell
The sound of that Jag is just magical.
Thank you for this video. I miss the Group C so much. For decades my friends and l would make the trip down to Sebring and by far the most exciting era with the BEST sounding cars were the Group C years. Big thumbs up!
Ahhh... 80's motorsport! Lenient rules. Loud engines. Big turbos. And beautiful liveries. Another reason why the 80's was the best decade.
The rules didn't specify engine types but that didn't mean they were lenient. They specified fuel allocation. Sure, you could have any engine you liked as long as you could get the most energy from your fuel allotment. It was, in fact, a fuel economy formula. Greenies, hippies and tree huggers rejoice. It was not an engine free-for-all in any sense but it probably was the golden age of motorsport. That said, there's more bull talked about Group C than just about any other formula, save for the old Group 5 from the late 60s / early 70s.
porsche had white supremacist turbos
a1media and swasticka pipe exhaust
a1media It has Bismarck and Hitler as ancestors,what do you want from it
What do you expect?
You say that like there is something wrong with it.
I wonder if they were also using White Power suspension.
That was a pretty good video.....The Aston did sound really good, like you'd expect from a warmed up V8, but the C9 Sauber really was the meanest sounding car in Group C......Even with Turbo's it still sounded 100% Grunty V8.
make a video with group b rally cars
Oooohh Yes, do it, just do it, NOW....
4:12 The kid in green t-shirt will be a Prius driver someday
Lol, but green t-shirt?? Well that proofs human eyes can see colours in a very different way than an other folks' ones
bercholr that fuckin profile pic lmao
lmao
Baaaam lol
Isn't it green? I should be more careful with traffic lights from now on ahaha
The first car allways fucked me up at Gran Turismo.
That's a XJR-8, not XJR-9.
Zsolt Szarka Whats the difference ?
The Nissan R92-CP was my nightmare :p
Star Core 92cp is the best car of all GT's imho
fullbadboycompany it was the Sauber Mercedes c9 for me
Great video! Thanks for sharing my footage and crediting my channel :) group c was the best Le Mans class imo!
Buddy, the 956 is a rare Gr.C? WTF?, the 956 IS the most iconic Gr C car. Find "nobody is perfect"
The 956 was extremely relevant in some new gadgets, was the first racecar to use a double clutch gearbox for example.
Also de LC2, C9, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Nissan (IMSA IMSA IMSA), are all well known Gr.C/IMSA GTP cars.
"Rare" are the Cougar C01, Rondeau M482, Mazda 727 (Gr.C Junior), the WM's the Nimord's (extremy ugly cars :P) and so on.
The motorsport history is not the cars that appear in Forza and Gran Turismo...
GeraArg Yeah, that was a weird inclusion on this list. In fact, both the 956 and 962 (in GTP)/962C are very well-known.
Not really sure why you'd call the AM-Nimrods ugly haha. I actually like their Design. Rondeau made very weird Group C cars imo
GeraArg The 956 isn't as well known as the 962 because it wasn't run as long as the 962 was. The 962 had a street legal version sold in Europe which ended up being the basis for a "GT" class car which won the overall at LeMans over cars which were more modern in 1994 (the Dauer 962) and a 962C also won a race in the All Japan Grand Touring Car Championship (JGTC, now named the Super GT series) in 1994.
@@stigrabbid589 962 and 956 are almost the same car
@@siniyden The 962 was originally built for the IMSA rules in the USA were the Drivers feet must sit behind the front axle.Porsche been Porsche and or course to save costs running two spec's of cars just upgraded all the cars to the new 962 spec , from the outside they look almost the same , but I guess minor upgrades from the race program 956 cars.
Still the 956 is the star of one of the best collection of in car video's of all time Rothmans In Car 956 that includes full speed laps of the old layout at Le Mans and the last full on hot Lap of the Nordschleife no demo laps recorded at amazing quality even by modern standards and most driven by Le Mans legend Derek Bell.
Awesome. Man, I hope this series of legendary cars makes it into a racing SIM one day.
You hear me, Sector3? We need this in R3E ! ! !
The Sauber C9 was one of my favourite cars of the GT5 when it was introduced, I am not sure what year but most of those cars were in it.😊
I saw those cars at Elkheart Lake, recordings don't do them any justice, especially the Jaguars. They made the hair on the back of your neck stand up!
Having seen the Aston AMR1 at Paul Ricard, it's one of the loudest Group C ever. Even at 600m from me the engine sound still covered all the cars closer to me.
your videos are always so informative. now ik the klan made good turbos
Where can I get these kkk turbos
Thanks to Gran Turismo these cars are well known or seen before by many people...I freaking love them all
I love the New man livery for the 956! One of my all time favorites.
Nice video man...... i really like the different engine configurations...always keeps it interesting......I also like the liveries on these grp C cars they all look so iconic!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
That kid @4:36, first time you get your ears blown out by an exhaust! FAN FOR LIFE.
Your english voiceover is getting really good now visio, keep it up.
And those turbos on that nissan! Jeeez
Thank you, but I hear that I need to work on my intonation and stress the words that are supposed to be stressed.
Yes GT4 memory
REALLY good video, Thanks to VisioRacer!
Small error - the Nissan ZX you featured was only single turbo. It used the VG30ET engine developed from the one found in the Z31 300zx turbo road car.
Hey buddy you named one of my favourite Group c Cars ever the lamborghini countach qvx which is one of the Best looking cars for me obviously i have this in 1 43 scale painted blue but as always good video ;-)
cars in 80s-early 90s have the most style
the Mercedes Sauber is the best
No, Porsche is the best.
Best at what?
MAZDA 787B FTW
It's Sauber and then mercedes. Sauber is the constructor not Mercedes. Last and only time Mercedes won at Le mans was in the 50's.
@@Spherz you know that the 787b only won because the other cars weren't reliable enough?
Getting better at those voice overs. Nice. :)
4:34 - That Lambo though! O___O
The 956 was untouchable from 82 to 84.
Nissan GTP ZX-Turbo... Tutututu 😍
2:47 I didn't know the KKK also made turbochargers.
The XJR-8 won its championship by the hands of a Brazilian driver, called Raul Boesel ;)
2:12
Tututututuuu!!
I know!! Also that car at full boost is making more like 900hp. It was one of the more powerful cars in the C2 class cars. But since it doesn't go over 230mph like the C1 cars can. Its a C2 car. But yes that blow off vaulve.
sinosuke12345 GTP ZX-Turbo wasn't C2. It was IMSA GTP
crockeroffish Oooooo silly me. But they were still fast as hell.
Does anybody know what is the red car that appeared at 1:56 behind Nissan?
That Jaguar is a beast....
great sound s, great video...keep it up man!
That Sauber C9 is an absolute beast!
Awesome video as always.
great video can you do a vid on formula one or touring cars
Man! I remember the Nissan Gran Prix…held in San Antonio, TX! These days you wouldn’t fathom any car of that caliber in town, let alone downtown.
the sound of that C9!!!!
i love this class of cars
1:04 hate to be that guy, but thats an XJR 9, not 8 :)
the 80's were the best time in motorsport and music history
Nice video, nice cars. Monsters
Man, I can listen all day to a Sauber C9 roaring... ♥
all those cars are great but the turbo noise of that nissan its just epic
I was at the Times Grand Prix at Riverside Raceway when that Jaguar won. Brabham and Morton driving.
Awesome video thx
making new race cars (lmp) with old school design would be a miracle. Brilliant looking cars.
what makes the sound i love so much? that slight wine? is it a turbo?
More likely the gearbox.
I honestly love all of them but you have to admit the Nissan sounds absolutely amazing.
that C9 had such a monster sound.
Most of them are well known only didn’t know the lambo
what is the music at the beginning? .... I recognize it from the game, midnight club street racing .... but never knew it's name
0:22 respecth
sorry, but that just sounded funny :D
amazing vehicles
your voice is like those guys who make game easter eggs videos :)
2:12 THAT SOUND OMG
actually I didn t know about the Lamborghini groupe C ! thank you !
great video. My favorite was the Nissan; very cool looking car. The "Tron" Sauber ain't boo bad either
Man the Lancia looks so good
The lancia looks so neat
Porsche and Lancia were recruiting KKK members back in the day but calling themselves "Group C drivers" to cover up! XD
^^^hahaha, that's a good one
"You may not know about," isn't a very good title considering you put some of the most famous Group C cars on this list, also showing an XJR-9 at Spa when the car on the list was the XJR-8
could you do Group B rally and Supertouring cars next please?
John Aggett but unknown cars from those groups. Like the Nissan 280RS Group B car
I want that Sauber rear wheels as a full set
Has anyone got a link for the race at 2:10 onwards????????
All original links are in the video description
True legends!
These are my favorite sport cars of all time
Was the Toyota 88C-V in this class?
@Ted S The 89CV raced at Le Mans.
i need it all in gran turismo!!!
Aston sound is glorious
Oh and Sauber too :p
There should be a class of racing where they allow the competitor to do whatever they want to their cars. No restrictions on engine size or turbos. No restrictions on downforce of driver aids. Let them go absolutely freaking balls to wall insane. It would be freaking awesome. You would have cars out there with 2500 hp and 4000lbs of downforce. Make all the races at least 300 miles long so plenty of laps to push the engines and cars. That would would be worth watching.
the lancia lc2, truly the benetton b186 of the group c era
That nissan (2:00 is also my favorite group c car in pc2 :)
Make a video about Group 5 cars
Non of them deserve respecth, but all deserve respect.
Dude Check this out
That turbo whine on the Nissan is orgasmic.
You need to get out more.
subscribed!
Nice video but what is the outro
Ciao, hai la stessa voce di Marchettino...🤔🧐😎
Holy crap, that Nissan ZX blow off tho😍
the fee ah, kek
seriously though, good video
Pronounced "Sea-bring", Visio! Lol loved the video
-A Sebring Resident
Is it? Well, learning every day. Thanks, buddy
No Problem! And if you're wondering, Living in Sebring around the time of the 12h (Early march) Is, in fact, badass.
I cannot really imagine that, but I believe you!
That nissans blow off
what's the car at 1:58?
Denis Bezukhov the red one is a Ferrari 330 p4 I believe
thx mate!
that turbo sound tho
Final song name?
i’d love to see an onboard and fly by
cool bov sound
Don't forget the Aston Martin Nimrod programme, Group C cars of the early 1980s that did well at Le Mans.
Your English seems to be improving. Keep at it.
first !! hey visio racer y like your " top " 😉
lol the Porsche 956 and Sauber C9 yeah there is literally nobody who knows these cars ...