Current Pokemon Market Dynamics: Vintage vs Modern: Speculation vs Investment: Timmies vs Investors!

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @maze-nc1ut
    @maze-nc1ut 21 день назад +19

    I watch a lot of these Pokémon investment channels, and it’s sad that a lot of their viewers will refuse to watch videos like yours. The whole thing has turned into a huge echo chamber, where any kind of devils advocate thinking is frowned upon because their dark reality is that they’re sitting on what can potentially be heavy bags. Nothing is free of the analysis of critical thinking. But that’s just it. A lot of these people don’t think, they just FOMO the hype. Thanks for being a fresh of breath, air in this conversation.

    • @ReservedInvestments
      @ReservedInvestments  21 день назад +3

      100%!

    • @HauntakuTV
      @HauntakuTV 21 день назад +1

      Old cards can be found for dirt cheap sometimes, so it's actually better and more fun to hunt down the oldies.

  • @CatalystCollects
    @CatalystCollects 21 день назад +8

    Never apologize for prioritizing your health 🗣️ glad to have you back.

  • @Fr331995
    @Fr331995 17 дней назад +2

    Glad to see you are still making videos! Ive been out of the loop for about 2 years!

  • @jedirun
    @jedirun 8 дней назад +1

    I am glad you are feeling better :)

  • @tupalev
    @tupalev 9 дней назад +1

    One of your best videos yet - nice work! Really explained the Pokemon vintage v modern really well in terms of investment opportunities. I'm also glad you are feeling better!

  • @paolo83330
    @paolo83330 21 день назад +1

    So good to have you back, especially having your take on the current Pokémon situation!

  • @adamchace
    @adamchace 22 дня назад +3

    Glad you’re feeling better brother, another great video.

  • @Itschristianj
    @Itschristianj 20 дней назад +1

    Great to have you back and hope you’re feeling 100% very soon bro!

  • @freshyfresh9838
    @freshyfresh9838 21 день назад +1

    Great vid and glad you took time to heal. Now we have more of you

  • @koomer1459
    @koomer1459 21 день назад +4

    I have a young son who is smack dab in the Pokémon craze. We don’t spend too much on it, I pick up a pack or two here or there for him. But it’s great to live something like this through his eyes. So much of this is interesting because I watch the Poketubers freaking out every day and talking about these products like they are index funds or something. This video was probably the most astute take on the whole craze. The whole thing is very reminiscent of the 90s comic book craze, where mass produced issues were over marketed, and afforded with some kind of delusion that it would be worth a lot more in a few years. However, the Pokémon craze of 2025 is very entertaining to live through. I’ve been feeling a year from now there’s gonna be plenty of videos talking about the great Pokémon crash of 2026.

    • @ugandanknuckles464
      @ugandanknuckles464 21 день назад

      Cant compare comics to the biggest media franchise.

  • @raulmendieta9696
    @raulmendieta9696 21 день назад +1

    Glad to hear you are recovering well. 👍

  • @monkey39128
    @monkey39128 22 дня назад +3

    So glad you're covering this and glad you're on the mend.
    I'm using this recent boom as an opportunity to sell my modern items and go after the vintage. I've given up on the "I'm holding modern for 30 years idea". Nowadays if I can get in and out of modern in 5 years then I'm happy. Thankfully I'm much better diversified in terms of traditional investments compared to a year ago when I first found your channel. I was definitely way too far down the modern Pokemon rabbit hole at one point.
    You're right the animosity between the modern and vintage people is really strange. I suspect a lot of these RUclipsr's will just chase the money. If vintage starts having another run then I bet their problems with vintage will be quickly forgotten.
    I remember in that book you recommended "Mint Condition" it talks about how modern baseball cards were the hot thing but the vintage cards eventually pulled ahead and out of sight after the modern crash. Makes me wonder if something similar could happen here. Not that I expect modern Pokemon to go through a junk wax style crash but we could see a less severe version. I find it incredible that you can buy vintage holographic cards in high grades for less than some of these modern chases. The modern cards are harder to pull but they've got huge population reports just due to the amount of boxes being printed. For example the Umbreon VMAX alt art from Evolving Skies has 14670 PSA 10's. That'd scare the sh*t out of me if I was holding that card because it's huge price tag is being held up only by demand rather than scarcity. Maybe there's enough collectors to maintain that price for the next 30 years but I wouldn't bet on it. I'd bet on Umbreon still being popular in 30 years but by then there'll be way more Umbreon cards splitting the demand.
    Sorry, I went on a bit of a rant there. I know I'm preaching to the choir.
    😂
    Edit: Thought of something else. 😂 There seems to be an assumption by some that vintage Pokemon had it's time in 2020 and now it's over. I think people are forgetting that the "old guys" in Pokemon are still fairly young due to it still being a fairly new collectable. SMPratte is considered a dinosaur and he's what? Mid 30's? A lot of the 1999 kids probably haven't reached their full earning potential yet. Not that that'll necessarily translate into vintage growth but it's an interesting thought.

    • @HauntakuTV
      @HauntakuTV 21 день назад +2

      The good thing about vintage is that it's a proven market.

  • @INHUMANENATION
    @INHUMANENATION 21 день назад +1

    Always appreciate that cup of cool refreshing water Doc 👍

  • @migueldias8546
    @migueldias8546 19 дней назад +1

    Best wishes for you Shawn! Take good care of yourself.

  • @wheeljack0
    @wheeljack0 21 день назад +1

    Glad you are getting better. All the best from the U.K.

  • @user-pp3dl8id7r
    @user-pp3dl8id7r 21 день назад +1

    Good to see you are recovering!

  • @R26Roman
    @R26Roman 22 дня назад +4

    I completely agree with you. But! Something i recently found out that i never took into account for is due to massive waves of hoarding sealed product. Now there are actual sealed collectors. From sealed collectors that collect only sealed packs (vintage included) to booster boxes. That is something new that has made the rise in cost for certain sets that never had nothing valuable in them, go up in value based on the art work on the sealed product. Its the new generation of collecting.

  • @zmbigmr
    @zmbigmr 20 дней назад +1

    Hope you continue to feel better man!

  • @cheaplaughkennedy2318
    @cheaplaughkennedy2318 22 дня назад +2

    I understand about the arthritis, I have mild osteoarthritis in my hips and really do not like taking medication ( Celebrex) too often. Always seem to learn something from your channel, thank you.

  • @tcgbuyersclub
    @tcgbuyersclub 22 дня назад +2

    Great video Shawn! I think the difference between the modern and vintage markets in Pokémon are fascinating and would love to hear more from you on this.
    To me, there’s this question of whether or not the history of the collectibles hobby is meaningful to the market or not.
    During the pandemic, there was a ton of nostalgia chasing driving collectors to the vintage pieces.
    But today, the modern Pokemon products are just so damn good, new collectors are flocking to it, and seem to find vintage boring by comparison.
    Over the long term, I think history tends to win out, and I suspect Vintage Pokemon is ready for a bit more love.
    But, in the meantime this modern Pokemon market is one hell of a ride!!

    • @HauntakuTV
      @HauntakuTV 21 день назад +3

      Expedition Pokemon cards are spicy

    • @tcgbuyersclub
      @tcgbuyersclub 21 день назад +1

      @ Totally! All e-series cards are 🥰

  • @uncut_cowboy
    @uncut_cowboy 21 день назад +1

    Nice to see your face and hear your thoughts. 😀

  • @cashmerefire7335
    @cashmerefire7335 21 день назад +1

    Hope you have a speedy recovery I feel the same way about modern era vs vintage pokemon. In fact I flip a lot of modern Pokemon and am slowly putting some of the profits into vintage era

  • @Odin_Oian
    @Odin_Oian 21 день назад +1

    I agree. I think it's pretty ridiculous how much modern Pokemon is going for now. Speedy recovery, Shawn.

  • @iFOMO23
    @iFOMO23 21 день назад +1

    I hope you feel better soon bud💪💯

  • @rogermurtaugh4766
    @rogermurtaugh4766 18 дней назад +1

    Hope you're doing well. Best wishes.

  • @flippensweet3
    @flippensweet3 19 дней назад

    I agree! That's why I like finding stuff for a good deal. With cards and toys it's good to check after christmas, target will have extra left over and they will liquidate it.

  • @seththomas7851
    @seththomas7851 20 дней назад +1

    I do think there is something to say about the amount of product that's actually being hoarded today. I absolutely agree that there's more being graded and more being kept in good condition however I don't think we should completely ignore the fact that pokemon is being opened the most it's ever been opened. Whatnot, tiktok live, etc. Those markets didn't exist in the gold eras for games like pokemon. Could be negligible but maybe not. Also the famous "the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent". A lot of these people don't have the patience to wait 1-2 years let alone 5, 10, 20 etc.

  • @Frank-ro5bp
    @Frank-ro5bp 22 дня назад +6

    A collecting category where vintage is mainly less desirable and depreciates quicker than modern pieces is sneaker collecting. It's more a trend that follows younger people as being current is more desirable than being rare.

    • @HauntakuTV
      @HauntakuTV 21 день назад +1

      Vintage cards are sleeping giants while the modern cards are hyper inflated due to demand. I'm sure that new Iono Bellibolt card is gonna be extra expensive when that set releases but for how long?

    • @Frank-ro5bp
      @Frank-ro5bp 21 день назад

      @@HauntakuTV Hype is the word. I feel like the general, interest in collecting is mistaken for the under-recognized prevalence of hype and results in collectables being a market that is less populated than it seems.

    • @ugandanknuckles464
      @ugandanknuckles464 21 день назад

      @@HauntakuTV Vintage has reached its peak. Modern has more room to grow,

    • @tedsmiles8145
      @tedsmiles8145 20 дней назад

      @@ugandanknuckles464 Moonbreon with its 10k+ PSA 10 pop is going to 10x...?

    • @ugandanknuckles464
      @ugandanknuckles464 19 дней назад

      @ Considering how many people want the card, its possible. Demand is higher then the supply.

  • @collectapaul
    @collectapaul 21 день назад

    Some great points, only thing I’d add which I think factors in to the modern market conundrum are RUclipsrs, content creators & the rip & ship commerce sites we’re seeing, these people are opening thousands of packs every single day, they of course open scarce vintage too though. Whether these factors sustain themselves to keep driving prices up or keep modern at all time highs is another matter.

  • @KeyKiller74
    @KeyKiller74 22 дня назад

    Welcome back Shawn & hope is all well, I don't know nothing about Pokémon cards too old for this hobby & if I had to invest in it I would start flipping my way to a safer vintage market to be in 1999 era.

  • @youngster_ryan
    @youngster_ryan 22 дня назад +1

    Well said. Sound advice.

  • @tomneijnens4048
    @tomneijnens4048 21 день назад +1

    Thank you very much

  • @jayz6706
    @jayz6706 22 дня назад +1

    Been waiting for this video! Glad you’re back and hope you’re feeling better

  • @mattoreilly201
    @mattoreilly201 22 дня назад +1

    Yay he’s back!

  • @ginobozzi3954
    @ginobozzi3954 21 день назад +1

    Agreed a lot of opportunities on graded comic books if you are patient enough.

  • @troytutti5415
    @troytutti5415 21 день назад

    Good video Shawn. Hope you do feel better. I think all you have to do is like you said look at the pop reports Pikachu in the NFL card has over 30,000 graded. They said Charizard doesn’t have anywhere near that. Looking forward to your next video.

  • @HyperBeamCollectibles
    @HyperBeamCollectibles 21 день назад +1

    Glad have you back, make sure you get your skin checked on the reg… we don’t need another Jimmy Buffett 🤙🏻🤙🏻

  • @zachb6135
    @zachb6135 21 день назад +1

    I 100% agree. Modern is crazy right now and the pull rates are atrocious. What would you rather right now, a sealed Neo Genesis box or lets say 5 cases of Evolving skies. In those 5 cases you'll likely pull a crazy alt art or even 2. In that neo set though, the ceiling is way higher, you can pull cards that have astronomically low pop reports in a ten. I definitely think vintage is the way to go for the long term horizon, if you are dabbling in this market.

  • @hartspot009
    @hartspot009 21 день назад

    Knowing the history and survival dynamics of any collectible is crucial ! Thanks as always Shawn, and sending you good health!
    Btw...do you happen to have a 1988 Donruss sealed baseball wax box? 😅😅

  • @bat2275
    @bat2275 21 день назад +3

    When witchblade #1 was the hottest comic nobody wanted golden age. How did that work out for the witchblade buyers?

  • @DeltaFH
    @DeltaFH 22 дня назад +3

    I've been waiting for this since I saw all the craziness

  • @johannesbrolinson5006
    @johannesbrolinson5006 22 дня назад +1

    Great video as always. Love to hear your opinions and analysis about antiques and collectibles even tho I myself never really put my money in anything other than bonds and index funds.

  • @willsworld1990
    @willsworld1990 18 дней назад +1

    Man you look fantastic for your age!

  • @proxyg4884
    @proxyg4884 21 день назад +4

    Been enjoying your content for years. One thing i dont understand about consumers, is their complaints of "scalpers" but never complain about the corporations creating artificial scarcity ie pokemon, nintendo etc

    • @ReservedInvestments
      @ReservedInvestments  21 день назад

      Bingo!

    • @DangerMousesEyePatch
      @DangerMousesEyePatch 21 день назад +1

      Then neither of you understand the connection of collecting to the idea of exclusivity and scarcity.
      Why would a collector be mad at the manufacturer instead of the person buying all stock and selling for 2-3x on secondary market?

    • @ReservedInvestments
      @ReservedInvestments  21 день назад

      @@DangerMousesEyePatch Because you cannot manufacture a collectible. We have covered this is many previous videos...

    • @HauntakuTV
      @HauntakuTV 21 день назад +1

      Scalpers horde a billion of stuff and they're the actual problem. The creator of the cards will print more based on demand and the DISTRIBUTORS are the middleman

  • @HauntakuTV
    @HauntakuTV 21 день назад +1

    I'm still waiting for a vintage holo rare to go back in stock.

  • @BasTHoorn
    @BasTHoorn 21 день назад +1

    I see a lot of oppertunity in vintage graded cards

  • @ricardoblikman2676
    @ricardoblikman2676 21 день назад

    This pokemon belief is really really stronk! Ive picked up a couple of free Pikachu felt grey hats last year they where free for everyone that buy 30 euro of stuff now they are close to 200 euro instant sale!

  • @leehaskins307
    @leehaskins307 21 день назад

    I’m a sports card collector.. mostly vintage and pre-war… I do have 8 1st edition 1999 pokemon cards tho.. i hold all my cards long term.. not a flipper.. another non sport is the 1st edition garbage pail cards. I have like 20 of those.. just keep them and love holding them of the history of cards...

  • @MrHangman56
    @MrHangman56 14 дней назад +1

    Its honestly so sad to see people fighting over these brand new mass produced pokemon cards, just because they want to flip them for profit, despite them being not really worth much more than a funko pop is in reality

  • @CharyvaTM
    @CharyvaTM 19 дней назад

    @ reserveinvestments off topic, but did you see the hot wheels collects of 30 years that sold on fanetics for $30k. Some believed the guy was ripped off but the money should have went into a Smp.

  • @scottrautmann7030
    @scottrautmann7030 21 день назад

    Graded comics are most likely stable due to, as Sean often points out, most of these popular titles are not "rare", and population reports of graded items illustrates this.

  • @ActionFigureAtorium
    @ActionFigureAtorium 21 день назад

    Question for you: When do you think the hoarding of modern product in hopes of it becoming a vintage product started? ie collector awareness. I'm going to put forth the idea that it started with the publishing of the original TMNT comics where folks bought 'one to show, one to go.'

    • @ReservedInvestments
      @ReservedInvestments  21 день назад

      The 1970's is when it first started...it then grew exponentially from there.

    • @ActionFigureAtorium
      @ActionFigureAtorium 21 день назад

      @@ReservedInvestments do you have a context? or example?

  • @pessithemystic
    @pessithemystic 22 дня назад +1

    I know there’s money in the market, both for modern and vintage, but Pokemon collectors are a volatile bunch.
    Having the ‘Action Comics 1 was once a modern collectible’ is a crazy argument 😬

  • @DegenCollector
    @DegenCollector 12 дней назад

    I think there are two big things that are not being mentioned, 1) The rip and ship culture is burning through thousands upon thousands of packs a day. 7 days a week, 365 days a year. 2) A portion of people online lie and inflate how much sealed they are holding. Great video and points otherwise!

  • @miatakid2
    @miatakid2 22 дня назад

    I have an elementary question. When you talk about long-term and short-term collectable investments what is that time frame? Like when it comes to traditional investments long-term is like a minimum of like 5 years as in mutual funds and short-term is like a year as in cds or other money markets.. sorry for the juvenile question.

    • @ReservedInvestments
      @ReservedInvestments  22 дня назад +2

      Generally the rule of thumb is that long term refers to five years or more....

  • @TheGh0stShip
    @TheGh0stShip 22 дня назад +1

    I’ve been vaccinated 6 times for Covid, but caught it 3 times since 2022.
    I am also immunocompromised due to treatment for IBS and celiac stuff as well. Feel better dude!

    • @ReservedInvestments
      @ReservedInvestments  22 дня назад +1

      Thank you!

    • @absoluteclownworld
      @absoluteclownworld 22 дня назад +7

      I have zero jabs for Covid and zero jabs for common Flu.. I haven't been sick in a few years now.. 😮

  • @EnriqueShockwave216
    @EnriqueShockwave216 22 дня назад +1

    Modern Pokemon is so diorienting to me.
    I get that demand is paramount though, so I'm not arguing anything, but wow these prices would be a fever dream just 5 short years ago.
    I'm not even saying vintage should be as valuable as it is, just that ROI of sourcing modern these past 3 years has been the definition of madness.

  • @charizard_baller69
    @charizard_baller69 19 дней назад

    Do you bench Shawn?

  • @dennisv1358
    @dennisv1358 21 день назад

    I recently purchased a vintage Fender Stratocaster at a steal because the guy needed money for a Yu Gi Oh investment opportunity.

  • @ToGuyFor
    @ToGuyFor 22 дня назад

    What about selling ungraded vintage cards to pay down high interest debt?

  • @randomsanctum
    @randomsanctum 18 дней назад

    I strictly buy Japanese Pokemon boxes. They're cheaper, gain slow and steady growth versus the spikes and dips of English boxes, better pull rates, and they're the same damn cards.

  • @jayz6706
    @jayz6706 21 день назад

    Is evolving skies a decent buy?

    • @ReservedInvestments
      @ReservedInvestments  21 день назад

      Depends on how you define 'decent buy.'

    • @jayz6706
      @jayz6706 21 день назад

      @ It seems to me (though I could be mistaken) that evolving skies is the exception to the rule when it comes to modern Pokémon card speculation/investing. Many people in the pokemon space, myself included, think that evolving skies will follow and surpass Team Up which is already like a $3500-4000 booster box. In your opinion do you see evolving skies making its way up there and even past that say in the next 5 years? Or do you think it’s just another modern, mass produced product and too many people are holding it so in the long run it may be doomed to fail?

  • @GravelRacer1
    @GravelRacer1 21 день назад +1

    I don't get it. That's why I'm staying away. There is no such thing as rare Pokemon.
    Mint condition is a great book by the way. Thanks for the recommendation.

    • @HauntakuTV
      @HauntakuTV 21 день назад +1

      There are certainly rare Pokemon. The vintage card I want only sold less than 50 copies total last year

    • @GravelRacer1
      @GravelRacer1 11 дней назад

      @HauntakuTV Rarity is an illusion. Pokemon are experts at making people think certain cards are "rare". People get caught up in the case. It is a marketing ploy that has been used by card companies for decades to get people to keep buying.

  • @fatheadcat9958
    @fatheadcat9958 21 день назад +2

    The millennial mindset in action. I have the same arguments with fellow coin collectors who collect modern hyped coins which are mass produced and unless they hit a 70 grade they are considered junk. I'll stick with my Greek ancients which are about as vintage as you can get 😂

    • @Ned-bw5tt
      @Ned-bw5tt 15 дней назад

      What is a reputable place to buy old coins?

    • @MetalBum
      @MetalBum 3 дня назад

      @@Ned-bw5ttheritage auctions or eBay from reputable accounts big accs w 50k good reviews etc

  • @IneptCardCollector
    @IneptCardCollector 22 дня назад

    My biggest takeaway is there are actual CGC guys.

  • @NostalgiaRC1
    @NostalgiaRC1 21 день назад +1

    your not taking rip n ship into account, this did not exist 5 years ago let alone 20, more modern product is being opened than ever before! would not be surprising if certain modern sets will be more rare than some vintage sets

    • @Discobricks
      @Discobricks 21 день назад +1

      I came here to say the same thing

    • @HauntakuTV
      @HauntakuTV 21 день назад +2

      I doubt it since there's more buyers than ever and more cards in good condition these days

  • @hw5091
    @hw5091 19 дней назад

    This is all a collecting, grading craze, that can last another 5 years, maybe even 8. Musical chairs eventually end, and a lot of people will end up wasting their money and time. And pokemon is the poster child of this generations junk wax era, in which baseball cards were the headliner there, 30 years ago.

  • @ricardoblikman2676
    @ricardoblikman2676 21 день назад +1

    Relax happy you did not get sick really bad. Do some yoga and some martial arts stretching its non cardio but it does work you out!

  • @dereks1455
    @dereks1455 21 день назад

    Modern sealed Pokemon investing won’t work for the bottom 80% of earners IMO due to:
    The potential for unexpected life events that require periodic above-average spending / forced selling
    Immediately upon purchase of product you’re down 10% to 15% as selling on eBay has fees (and buyers on facebook marketplace rarely pay market price).
    You need to take a non-emotional approach to Pokemon as strictly an investment (don’t rip your booster boxes).
    But for the top 10% or 20% of earners, Pokemon can be an incremental speculative mix in an already diversified portfolio.
    My portfolio today: 40% stocks, 20% real estate equity, 20% gold/silver bullion and 20% sealed Pokemon booster boxes, roughly.

    • @HauntakuTV
      @HauntakuTV 21 день назад +1

      A diverse portfolio is always the way to go

  • @lowrollerscratcher3563
    @lowrollerscratcher3563 22 дня назад

    Did you see etb box got so expensive now. The new etb box set selling 150 dollars Prismatic Evolutions . That Prismatic Evolutions etb cost 50 dollars. Now it is 150 dollars it isn’t releasing yet. The new Pokémon set didn’t release yet. The journey together etb already selling 200-300 dollars even the set wasn’t releasing in March 2025. The journey together booster box selling 400-500 dollars. The set haven’t release in March 2025.

    • @R26Roman
      @R26Roman 22 дня назад

      And even Pokemon rised the etbs prices to $60-$70

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 21 день назад

      I kind of get it with Prismatic. The pull rates are horrible and there's lots of popular Pokémon which will probably lead to some very expensive cards.
      With Journey Together I'm not seeing where the set value is going to come from so far. Feels like a lot of people are speculating just because Surging Sparks and Prismatic Evolutions are doing so well. I'd imagine Journey Together will come back down as more product comes to market. We also have the Team Rocket set coming later in the year which will steal people's attention.

  • @LizzieMcguire69
    @LizzieMcguire69 22 дня назад +1

    OH NO NOT POKEMON. I spent all my life savings on childrens games and stuffed animals

  • @_DML_
    @_DML_ 16 дней назад

    Got COVID... possibly from a Timmy, Kimmy or a poindexter.

  • @jabezcreed
    @jabezcreed 16 дней назад

    If you invest in modern Pokemon packs, aren't you hoping that that people in the future will want it??? That's what vintage Pokemon is today.

    • @ReservedInvestments
      @ReservedInvestments  16 дней назад

      Print runs are exponentially higher and everyone is holding the stuff in factory sealed condition. That’s a recipe for disaster from an investment perspective.

  • @luisserrano9209
    @luisserrano9209 22 дня назад

    You sound like your inspiration duration is slightly more forceful than normal.

  • @goldeneastgun
    @goldeneastgun 21 день назад

    I'm just gonna keep selling my collectables so I can buy more bitcoins 🤑

  • @lowrollerscratcher3563
    @lowrollerscratcher3563 22 дня назад

    Pokémon is the next Bitcoin and crypto. 😄😄

  • @shawnangie1
    @shawnangie1 21 день назад +1

    Sorry to hear that you caved in to the Fauchi ouchie.