My wife became irritable during lockdowns and became somewhat anxious (she's lovely and a great wife) . She asked "how can you be in such a positive mood?" I told her "I get a week off work and we get to hang out - this is like a holiday to me"
Lori Gottlieb: “the majority of single women … said that getting 80 percent of what they wanted in a mate would be ‘settling,’ (but) the majority of single men said finding a woman with 80 percent of what they wanted would be ‘a catch.'”
And that 80% of what women want is from a list of at least 10 things, and those individual things each apply to only 10 % of the male population; 80% of what a man wants is from she likes me and she hasn't slept around to much.
@@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 Lori Gottlieb says some of her women clients have a list of 300 items they want in a husband while men have a very short list.
Truth is truth. Truth has no race. Although different races may perceive reality differently. The purpose of life is for us to make ourselves better people.
@Face Meat That's interesting. I've done so much reading on the subject. I've come to think the odds are not good for marriage as we knew it to be. Suzanne venker has a channel and vids and with karen straughan have excellent vids on why men no longer marry. People like coach Greg Adams, Rollo Tomassi and others give reasons as well. It looks pretty bad. A man might have a chance in some of the Asian countries. Thailand, Philippines. Man men have found happiness in those countries.
Women's unrealistic expectations and their general disdain for men really struck a nerve with me. All ten points are valid but when a man has to satisfy a ten page "must have" list yet have no preferences or requirements and then hear day in and day out that we are total idiots; why bother with relationships? Then, if you do pursue a relationship/marriage you have to face the completely unfair divorce and family laws that are biased against men. As a sane man, I ask myself, "why do this, what benefit is there for me to risk everything when a woman can wake up, say she isn't happy and I will get kicked out of the home, have most of my assets taken and then pay alimony to boot?" This may sound like hyperbole but I saw it play out over and over with many of my male friends. Seeing that, there was no way I was going to touch marriage.
Dealing with American women in the present day has become a dangerous proposition when even an accusation can destroy a man’s life. If I was a young man today I would move to a male-friendly country if marriage was important to me.
@@GBU61 Well stated! There seems to be no hope for any changes that will hold women accountable when they make false accusations nor are the court systems going to start treating men fairly when women file for divorce. The system is rigged and any man that marries today is a fool.
I have always prioritized relationship, love and marriage over money and career. But, that's what comes of coming from a severely dysfunctional family of origin home and not wanting to repeat the mistakes of the past.
A marriage that will last requires both partners to have the correct foundational mindset of "what is best for the cherished and valued marriage relationship that exists between us and not what is best for me'. This does not mean to neglect one's own goals, aspirations etc but to consider your husband/wife and children and consequences that may impact negatively on them.
I am pretty much in agreement with everything you've stated. I happen to believe that I can be the best husband possible when I'm managing myself well(eating healthy, getting exercise, rest, and enough sleep), husbanding/saving my resources (being a good saver of time, energy, or money), and teaching/discipling/disciplining my own appetites. Just cause I have access to a whole bag of cookies does mean it's good to "oink out" on them...there are other people in the house.
Concerning neglecting one's personal goals/growth, I think you are right on. Everyone needs a certain amount of alone-time to remind themselves who they were/are, what is important to you, and hopefully to learn to appreciate your partner by missing them from time to time. Relationships are a privilege. People change as the decades pass. Who I was at 20 is certainly not who I became at 30. If I want to be granted the "slack to change" it only seems fair that I be willing to extend that same chance/choice to someone else.
Kevin Samuels makes millions of dollars per year on RUclips asking women one question: "What do the men that you want want?" Women have high expectations, but they never stop to think that there is a counterparty in the transaction. Women on Kevin's show get angry when they hear that men want something out of the deal.
Suzanne, be good to hear/see a cast specifically addressing micro-cheating and emotional affairs/cheating. This is a HUGE issue issue with social media/messaging and phones causing increasing relationship breakdown. One more, setting boundaries up front for a relationship.
Wow... what a pleasant surprise this was. I accidentally stumbled upon this, and the more I listened, the more I realized how rational and objective you are. Thanks for the reassurance that there are still some sensible people out there. Consider me subscribed.
I'm 56 and was warned not to marry at 18. I have been enjoying and also studying women since then. Women have been taught via the media, feminism, and colleges to NEVER BE HAPPY?! I have been enjoying my entire life and have flourished financially per never marrying. Men are waking up in society. Traditional women are missed.....wish I had one in my life but they are maybe 2% of the female population. Timmy C Arizona
@@Illlium ~ generally a true statement, however; it acutely targets Women as destroying the Family Unit is The quickest and most effective means of destroying a successful society.
@@Illlium "People were programmed to never be happy through the opulent excess of their fellow countrymen" Good grief, did you just graduate from the Socialist School of Politics? Person A's success doesn't make Person B unhappy. Person B's happiness is based upon Person B's actions and decisions. Society isn't cursed unless freedom is taken away.
People in parts of the US can't even harvest rainwater and its the "free-est" country on earth? Really? That's media programming. Anyway, I like your show.
All I've tried to do is make finding a spouse my top priority for the last 30+ years. Making money/wealth is relatively easy as compared with finding someone capable of loving me the way I need to be loved and learning what it means to build a strong committed relationship with a stranger starting not from scratch, but from a place of absolute fear and moving toward faith/belief in the possibility of co-creating a healthy marriage relationship with a friend.
One thing I've noticed is that feminism has cheapened the word "love". With phrases such as I love you but I'm not "in love" with you is the latest example. When I'm thinking about how back in grade school it was this person "liked" that person. It seems that it carries more weight than "I love you". There was a made for TV movie called "I love you, goodbye" starring starring Earl Holliman and Hope Lange. It was about a suburban house wife who became discontent through the lies of feminism. Look at the title. The word "love" in our society means nothing.
#1 - "...what you saw growing up..." Men tend to marry their mothers, women tend to marry their fathers. Hard to fight that... #5 - I know you said this in passing and I have to say it once more [from personal experience] - living near your family is good if it is a truly functional family. Living near dysfunctional family members only makes it harder to reject the current culture and live your life the way God intended you to. Suzanne - you are a lighthouse in a stormy world...
my ex didn't marry her father ... she WAS her father. Her own mother said she was much like her Dad. Her sister however was much like her mother. A fine woman.
The way to stop the "tendency" to marry a woman with similar character qualities to your primary Parent is a process called individuation. Funnily enough individuation is psychologically how you become an individual and it means that if you rightfully wish to call yourself an adult(male or female) you have to be able to say a definitive "No" to your now-supposed "equals" and if you can't say no and enforce that choice to say "no" to Your one- time Parents as a person of legal majority when necessary you are still living by their rules, regs. and boundaries which makes you their defacto psychological child with no genuine free will of your own, just sayin'.
Marriage is a struggle even without different frames of reference. Its difficulty is only compounded by not having an iron-willed determination to make it work on the part of both partners.
I appreciate the message here. I also must rise above the easy path of blaming something or someone for my unhappiness relating to marriage relationships. The sooner I can acknowledge my mistakes relating to decisions made within relationships. All the better. I’m recently divorced after 22yrs of marriage. I finally had to accept that I could not improve myself to make a marriage better. I had to accept that I ignored signs of emotional unhealthiness. I have the opportunity now to not settle. If that means a life without a woman of substance then so be it. The pain of being with someone who doesn’t have or exhibit a caring
I am 58. From the time I was about 20 the most important thing I wanted in life was to find a good woman that I could trust, love and have a family with. Everything else was secondary. Silly me. About 95% of my interactions with women have been negative. I have been laughed at, mocked, called names, ridiculed, manipulated and used for my money, my time or anything else of mine that she wanted. Well, I'm done. No more. Next week I am traveling to a certain state where I can pay a women to be nice to me. Yes, I realize it is fake but at least it may seem real for a while. I know what to expect up front. I know what I am paying for. When we are done I know she will not keep manipulating and using me. It may end up being a s**t show. But it is my choice. You young guys that think there is a woman out there for you. Sorry that is the biggest lie told to all men from the time they are 5 years old. It is not going to happen and even if it does, it won't be the wonderful thing you have been told it is.
As a Man who has lived so far in the 10% of Men that Women actually desire, I can say my experience is the complete opposite. Ive dated/slept with hundreds of women and have rejected at least a 1000. I say this to confirm that Women are more shallow then Men regards looks, money, education and the other things on their laundry list of silliness. And Ive on purpose used my looks to nail/ghost women that insulted my male friends due to their supposed inadequacies, so that the latter got some vicarious revenge through my exploits. Its a harsh world.
In my country Australia, the median time between getting hitched and separating is 8.4 years. From hitched to deev0rc€d is 12.1 years. These are the stats. It's over, everyone. Only a foolish man would make his life insanely difficult, sad and potentially tragic going down that path. My last relationship/date of any kind was in the late 90s. I walked away because it was crazy enough back then, and things are infinitely worse today. Peace and love to you all.
and the rest of it. Australia has had divorce in a long term downstream for about 15 years. Child custody and post divorce financial arrangements were reformed. Since about 2018 (roughy) we have been going through a counterstrike by feminists.
8.4 to 12.1 years is about how long it takes to get his house how she wants it, have a few kids ( child support, better divorce settlement ) when the kids are old enough to go off to school. In the UK we have 80/20 divorces - the woman gets 80% of the estate, 100% child custody, child support from the husband ( until the child is 21 years old ) as well as child benefit, the husband looses his wife, children and home, has to pay half of the mortgage, child support and half of his pension.
@@benjaminandre9339 Every woman is hypergamous by nature, and every man is polygamous by nature. However, culture used to force people to suppress this nature, and now, with an open and free dating market, women act on their hypergamous instincts because they can, and the top 20% of men act on their polygamous instincts, since 80% of all women are willing to sleep with them. Edit: If only women were hypergamous, the dating market wouldn't be as much of a mess as it is now, since the top 20% of men would only sleep with, date and marry the top 20% of women, forcing the remaining ones to be with other men.
There’s a multitude of reasons and all of them play a part…broaden perspective and you’ll have a conclusion with which you can build a strategy to better yourself and social life
Exactly. Suzanne has mentioned that in other podcast episodes. Even if you tackled the 10 items on her list that ticking time bomb hangs over every man's head and the woman can pull the pin and get rewarded for destroying the marriage.
@@johnc.8298 wow, that is horrible and any reasonable person would not have taken it; they would have been decent enough to negotiate a different settlement but not today's vultures, err, I mean women
If I love someone, then honoring that relationship becomes about self-sacrificial choice that I want to consider before actually making a choice that effects both of us.
Sadly, #5 is a necessity for my husband and me. Both of us came from pretty toxic families and we don’t want them around our children. We do hope #5 isn’t an issue for our children once they grow up and have their own families.
Similar upbringing and values are huge. My wife and I met a little later (around age 27). At the time, we both had parents who had been married for almost 30 years. Her parents have now been married for 53 years. Mine made it to 46, and then we lost my dad. Both of us came from Christian families who loved to laugh and spend time together. The first time I met her family, I felt right at home, as if I had known them for years. Even though I didn't have to, I still asked her dad's permission to marry her, which she greatly appreciated. Yes, we've had our challenges. But having our marriage build on a strong foundation has made all the difference in the world. I know that a lot of guys are discouraged and are giving up on dating. But I promised that there are still some good ones.
I think the reason relationships today are so messed up is because of the ME Generation ideology, that started in the 1970's and just kept getting worse. There was actually a kids show back then called 'The Most Important Person Is You", which really says a lot. When you start teaching children that no one is more important than themselves, is it any wonder they grow up with a wrong way of thinking? There was an old movie, from back in the 30's or 40's, where a couple was getting married and the minister was telling them that from now on, they have to make their own needs secondary. He told the husband to think of his wife's happiness first and told the wife to think of her husband's happiness first. People today would never agree to that.
Ma'am Glad to hear you back I am from the Midwest , The boots,hat and farm work area Anyway please you and your acquaintances and friends with your show...do all you can to bail out the water we took on in 2021 and will in 2022 The women are lost and there is no saving it BUT PLEASE PLEASE TRY What you do is very important Happy new year
Now ask the question: Which political aisle contributes MORE to weaving The 10 Reasons into the fabric of Western Culture... Left or Right? The History is there for all to read about and witness everyday.
Organized religion is just as corrupt as government. Most people today believe in spirituality which has most of the same mindsets just without all the cult like rituals. You don't need religion to be a good person you need empathy
I think, men and women both have rather high wishes towards a partner. The problem ist, that while mens minimum expectation is much lower, the expectation of women is quite the same as their wishes.
@@gordonlawrence1448 im sure you are not just looking for a woman with integrity. Im sure other factors are important and there's nothing wrong with that.
@@gordonlawrence1448 good luck. Personally, I think you have a better chance of finding a unicorn, while being struck by lightning coming out of an asteroid, while holding 6 winning lottery tickets all won on the same day.
@SuzanneVenker Men aren't afraid of marriage and commitment, we're afraid of divorce. Investing time, energy, love and money into someone only to have it all fall apart for unknown reasons. When the chance of divorce was 1 in 10 it was worth the gamble. Now its roughly 5 in 10 with women filing most divorces it's a lot more risky, too risky for many! Most men want to know how do you make a woman happy? How do you make a woman to stay? Noone seems to have the answers.
1) Listen to her. Ask her (your woman). Do the things she says make her happy. 2) Respect her, trust her. Treat her like you want her to treat you. Also be selective of the woman you decide to commit to. Choose a woman who is family-minded. A woman who wants the same things out of life that you want.
You can’t make a woman happy, that’s the trap many men fall into. She needs to already have her own inner security and self esteem. That’s something you need to vet for early in the beginning of dating You can only add to what’s already there. If she’s empty, she’ll be like a black hole that’s never satisfied
After the dealings with women I have had in the last 30 years+ I would rather disembowel myself with a blunt plastic teaspoon than get involved with a woman again. My first wife only married me to divorce me later (she stuck to the plan she made 6 months before we married to the letter). My second wife left me due to accusations that proved to be false. I would not mind so much as she absolutely knew some of them were false as they were things I had supposedly done to her so she knew the accusers were liars. Almost all of the rest I have caught doing something wrong. Then of course there is the sheer sense of entitlement and denial, and of course lack of accountability. Also with prenups why would any guy not want one. On average guys come in with assets women come in with debts. Women instigate divorces 80% of the time and the guy ends up walking away with the debt while the woman gets the assets. What kind of swivel eyed lunatic would think that's ok?
I'm very sorry you had the experience you had. What should be done is to tell young men about marital liability BEFORE they get married. It sounds like you know what to do.
@@cstuartdc what personal responsibility do you expect him to have given his stories of marriage? Given his rendition is true, he's most certainly the victim of female behavior, not doing the same thing as his wife did.
We all know what caused all of this and why marriage is a bad deal for many, if not most men in the west. Society has to support traditional relationships and marriage, or it won't happen. Too much risk involved, especially for men.
I used to believe in marriage, but not anymore after getting married twice and divorce raped twice including my first wife of 6 years getting custody of my 2 sons after the court determined her being mentally ill. My second wife of 28 years told me after we were married that she had been through treatment twice for alcohol and drug addiction. I stuck with her and we had a son after 5 miscarriages' which were caused by an in incompetent cervix that had been damaged by an abortion she had had when she was on drugs and was prostituting for drug money. She had also not thought to mention that to me before we were married. Then when I retired in 2016 and wouldn't give her money for drugs, she filed for divorce and the judge gave her 67% of my assets while she had next to nothing in assets as she couldn't hold a job and had hidden her assets before filing for divorce due to irreconciled differences. So I am now quite happy living by myself on a ranch, I also feel like even though I was trying to do the right thing, I was cheated by the anti male laws out there when a man goes through divorce. I agree with everything you are saying, but it is too risky if you are a man to get married because of the fickleness of women and terrible divorce laws. It would be different if they would go back to the old laws of 60 years ago where a spouse wanting divorce had to show cause, but that will never happen. Interesting to note that we are experiencing the lowest marriage rates and the highest divorce rates at the same time resulting in less then 50% of adults being married at this time. This is also the cause of the U.S. having the lowest birth rates on record too.
I worked with a therapist to "improve" my relationship with a girlfriend who was bipolar. I later realize that the therapy doomed that relationship. I talked with my therapist and they said as a person gets healthier the people they are in relationship also get healthier.
@@Redbeth4 Men and women are attracted to partners that allow them to work through their issues. If you have an unhealthy partner then you are also unhealthy.
Suzanne, I’ve been married and divorced twice. My experience with the court is what most men can expect. Second class status if you’re lucky. I would have given my eye teeth to find a woman like yourself. Unfortunately, unicorns are few and far between. Love your show.
It took me 15 years to find a woman worth marrying and she is Japanese, not an American. Too many of the American women I dated had personality disorders. We have a pre-nup and 3 sets of accounts. We have been married 32 years now,
@@Ratlegion Every month we both put a significant amount of money in the family accounts. This is for all the family and housing expenses. Both of us have separate checking, savings and retirements accounts that are in our names. If she wants to spend $6K on a new sewing machine from her money that is up to her.
A guy who indicates he is putting his family first will get laid off. It is expected that a man will commit himself to his job. If he doesn’t show this, he will get weeded out. Gurls can have it either way.
Suzanne....I appreciate the way you address the tough issues with straight talk...especially to have realistic expectations and to not waste time in the company of non-compatible potentials. I'm a 58 year old male and still married after 29 years. My health, finances, and happiness are better for it. "The quality of your life depends on the quality of your relationships." I do not expect my wife to be a perfect list of my requirements....and I am certainly not everything she wishes for. However, the big compatible items are checked-off and we've a civil way to work out the rest. There is always some portion of the marriage that is lacking at any time....it's foolish to think it will be a sunny day all the time. So much of what you are saying I realized back in the early '90s and created personal guidelines to avoid non-compatible women (many had great qualities, but just not right for me). There were plenty of narcissistic and Feminist women in the 80s and 90s, albeit no Social Media or dating apps to deal with, but there were plenty of good women too. I'm saddened by how many men are in the MGTOW movement....that movement seems like just the male side of the same Feminist coin...."All women are out to get you, so "pursue excellence", "spin plates", etc. etc." If 50% of marriages fail, then 50% of marriages don't and some portion of those are actually good marriages. Seems my brothers should seek to understand how those relationships succeed, rather than watch RUclips videos providing them "confirmation bias" and no real solutions. I'm really astounded how many of these MGTOW types are betting on a future relationship with a 20 or 30 year age difference. Like that ends well.
The dude that’s been married for 30 years trying to tell men how to handle the current dating world. If you’ve been married for 30 years you are beyond clueless about the current dating scene and should stay in your lane
I remember when I was eating my Cheerios as a young little fella that a thought came to me: "I don't wanna get married 'cause I don't wanna get divorced." Even then I knew something was wrong with it. When there are at least 10 things wrong with modern "love", is there really any point in pursuing it?
I remember seeing my folks near-constantly bickering about "nothing of real substance. I told myself at some point during all the fighting and tears(mostly on my Mother's side) I would not subject my kids to this kind of frequent emotional upset. I told/promised myself that I would do a better job of marrying and living in harmony with my wife and the Mother of our children.
As to whether or not to pursue Marriage. No matter how close your individual mindsets are concerning the topic of marriage you will face your own heartaches. But, if you practice regular self-examination and you deal with the issues that come up for you proactively and your partner does the same I still believe you/I can have a great relationship throughout your marriage. But, it's about putting in the effort and doing the work. Reflection on marriage begs the question: How ready am I for a marathon, because that's exactly what a marriage is supposed to be. And bc it is a marathon, it's infinitely better to make the trip with a friend who knows you intimately.
As a kid I always remember saying to myself in the midst of a highly dysfunctional and contentious family of origin I can do better than this! On some level I can't fully explain or understand even myself I knew I could do relationships and marriage better than my folks.
"Marriage is unfair to women" has been pushed like mad. The problem today is that the reality of family courts and the double standards around behaviours - has ensured that marriage when looked at with a cold hard eye, looks like a very bad deal from his perspective. Sure - she can "take divorce off the table" but it still hangs over him like the sword of Damocles. She can openly express all kinds of expectations wants and discussion of physical attributes if he does the same? She can touch and he is the issue if he does not appreciate it, if he does the same? It is time to acknowledge the most important audience going forward for feminism, #metoo and so much else, that is young men. She can see and reject the lies and understand how they are poisoning her life. He has no real way to do so, and it is not a lie that abused men are arrested, abusive women protected. it is not a lie that fathers have been treated as disposable, nor it is a lie that men have been cast as enemy other by a loud and endless narrative of feminism. Trust is something that women started with, and dating has been about him winning hers. Now, increasingly it is he who does not trust, and for good reason, and our standards of dating and norms of approach, make it very hard for her to address this. Oh - and work having been defined as privilege - which men know is false.
Parents can become used to/addicted to control of "their" children. But children are really only "children" for so long and gradually more responsibility and accountability become theirs as they are allowed to make more choices for themselves. Consequently, if you have controlling People/ Parent(s) in your life you don't have to abandon them, but you probably should set a boundary/limit on how much time you do spend with them if you are newly married. Otherwise, how do you know if you are leading your own life?
The money thing is huge. People are encouraged to “display” their money by having a certain car , house, trips, etc. So if a guy doesn’t show these outward displays of his money many women will see him as broke or financially unstable. But they don’t realize this guy may actually have a nice little cushion saved in the bank and those outward displays of his financial status just aren’t important to him.
What i think has happened is a shift in the mindset, from relationship/marriage being more important than oneself. To what can marriage do for me. So people go in with the idea that marriage is about them and what marriage can do for them, not what they can do to make a marriage work. This has happened on both sides of men and women if you ask me. Because i see it in my friends and family, the way they talk about it. "There is no point in getting married, we are together that is enough" To me that sounds more like an excuse, because if you plan to stay together why not get married than? It sounds like "this is good for now but maybe i want to have another partner later why complicate things" The reason why you complicate things is for you to stay together, that it requires work and effort to split up so you are more likely to put in work into the marriage itself so it doesnt break. That if it gets tough its easier to fix the marriage than it is to just split up.
A relationship with a woman is not a "matter of course" proposition. Women, themselves are not a straight-forward matter of fact proposition. Since women are the potential carriers of the species and largely emotional creatures as well as being attractive to men they usually require special care. More important than a relationship with a woman, how's your relationship with yourself? Do you have felt security? Do you feel anxious about telling the people you care about that you think you've found the one? Do you self-examine/reflect regularly and work on your areas of needed growth? Can you walk away from a relationship if need be without falling apart emotionally?
As a Genetic Primary Psychopath I'm going to focus on a Dormant ability that I have not used yet. It's going to change greatly for women 30+ now. Psychopathic Shock Trauma is now going to be practiced and honed
Feminists have been bashing men for 50 years. Most of us have simply had enough and have adopted an attitude of indifference regarding women. Indifference equals survival.
I recently moved in with my boyfriend of 3 yrs. we've been long distance for 2 years and moving in has not been happy as I thought. I do not think it's the moving in that's the problem, I think a lot has changed over 2 years and not that we are together, we do not know how to communicate or validate each other's presence. He doesn't seem enthusiastic to have me around, he goes about doing his own thing without asking me or getting me involved. it's only been a couple of days and I am already unhappy. I do not think i am asking for too much. What should I do?
Truly trying not to come across as putting blame on one person. You aren't getting the scientifically proven hard wired subconscious validation (emotional need) you were getting from the guys that were chasing you on a daily basis when you 2 lived apart. You can deny this nature all you want. Now you are together you are having to go "cold turkey' from that ( I won't deny it's hard). Again due to distance he's subconsciously used to' living by himself,' not having someone there daily not realizing he's doing this. IMHO Maybe be "so" """"" focused """" on achieving something at work/school ( the subconscious hard wired nature of being a hunter/ get it done, logical and putting the emotions last) sorry that's the way it is. Years ago when I and my girlfriend moved in together we experienced some of these aspects as well. Unfortunately we grew apart due to unresolved issues from our past. Hope this helps
"How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man." Jer. 31:22
The rate of finding partners is in church is below 10% now. More than 40% is online, so I'm not sure why you are misrepresenting the data. Edit: actually, I'm pretty sure the modern church is a mechanism of female social hierarchy climbing which is one of the reasons men left.
Dear Mrs Venker, As a 60-something I can recall when women were referred to as the "old ball and chain" . This seems a reference to women holding men/husbands back, doesn't it? Reference 9.19 of the video.
My ex was too screwed up ( but did conceal that problem ) thinking she was functional. She used to challenge me ( screaming it right into my face ) .. saying that "I wasn't even a man if I couldn't beat a woman" .... I am too peaceful , as observed in from my parents modeling, and never would have raised a hand to violate her. This kind of mess was NOT surmountable , hence divorce
my dude! my ex wife would do the same thing and try to get me to hit her. said I wasn't a man because I refused to hit her... I was raised by a single mother and raised never to hit a woman. I never have... but I've been hit by women more times than I can count. it's a wicked double standard
@@Svrakiss Indeed .. women .. can't figure them out. Same woman, with the next man ( who was reported to be very violent )( and would readily strike ) ... they are still together, 20 years, and happy. I still advise not to hit a female ... unless kink play is practiced - and there since I have found many women who want to be whipped, spanked, disciplined - but notice how I am changing the 'wording'.
I think all men in America need to ask themselves this question, "If professional athletes, successful businessmen, famous actors, and powerful politicians can't stay happily married with their money, power, and fame then what hope is there for the average joe?"
at some stage western governments will follow Israel into doing something about fertility (average child per woman). We can get a 2.1 by encouraging the women that really, really like having kids to have large families. I have done the back of the envelope numbers. 20% of families averaging 5 children will work. The stability employed and stability married requirements are going to make this controversial (Australia tried this without those requirements nearly 20 years ago, the result was not good.) Most people hide from the storm or the flood. Some of us, just a few hoist the sail or climb in the kayak
Get enough men to bathe deeply in the tubs of marriage-free life, and why wouldn’t they want to stay there? Look at the stories of the saps who got taken to the cleaners! Proud to be marching to my own drum!
Hi, Suzanne Venker. As per usual, your content is pretty danged good, at least up to where I stopped listening at 6.34. Why did I stop listening? I 'figgered' out a LONNNGGGGG time ago that peace and happiness are danged hard to find within one's self but IMPOSSIBLE to find OUTSIDE of one's self. I don't NEED anybody else in my life for me to be happy and at peace with myself and the world. Yes, it might be nice to have somebody as happy and at peace with themselves and the world with whom to share said peace and happiness and perhaps enhance it for both of us but not having that 'somebody' does not diminish my peace and happiness. The TWO genders, men and women, ARE different. They were designed/have evolved NOT to be competitive as feminazism would have us believe but rather to be COMPLEMENTARY to each other. But feminazism, the 'meejya' and lawmakers have pretty successfully buried that FACT. I could give you some reasons why they have cooperated/conspired to do this but that is beyond the scope of this comment and might be hard for some people to get their heads around, even unpalatable to others. I have had 2 long-term relationships, an almost 20 year marriage and an almost 11 year de facto relationship. BOTH of these women turned out to be manipulators, each in their own way. I think I might be getting smarter 'coz it only took me just over 1/2 as long to wake up the second time. There was almost a third but I woke up to that one WAY before there was any serious relationship. I have been on my own now since Christmas, 2004, and I am fully prepared to STAY that way until I leave this 'mortal coil'. Don't get me wrong. I LIKE women. I just don't like what I see that they have become, generally speaking. F'rinstance, there is a 28 year old waitress/server atta restaurant that I 'frequent/haunt' who has 3 year old twin girls who are a handful. And she is out nightclubbing and drinking 2 and 3 times a week. She has 'had' at least 3 relationships in the 2 1/2 years that I have known her and ALL have failed 'coz it was 'the man's fault'. She THRIVES on attention from men and constantly seeks validation from others. She thinks she izz at least a '9' and at best izz about a '4', not 'coz of her looks but 'coz of her 'atti-tood'. And she is FAR from being the only one. On top of that, the GREAT majority of women DEMAND complete honesty from men but have ZERO intention or sense of need to offer men the same in return. HOW can I say that????????????? Just ONE example - How many women do you know who DON'T wear make-up, high heels, false eyelashes or fingernails, etc., color their hair and/or nails, wear jewellery, padded or uplift bras and/or foundation garments - - - - and the list goes on. NONE of the above is anything but LIES about who and what they REALLY are. "Make the best of what you have." By trying to enhance the good and HIDE the rest?????????? What is that if not misrepresenting 'the product' - - - which is outright lying. You can be taken to court for that in industry or commerce - - - - - but not in marriage????????????????? Just a part of my 0.02. You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
Rollo believes marriage for men in the West in the 21st century is an unconscionable contract. I agree with him and a debate between you and him on this would be very interesting. I know you've had him on before. Keep up the great work.
Rollo doesn’t even preach what is good to find a wife. He is actually one of the most gynocentric people in the manosphere and for the last year he appears to be in a permanent stage of weirdo rage!
I appreciate your efforts, but listening to this my only thought was "Hard Pass." It's just not worth the risk. Being a man and math literate, I will point out the game theory game of "stag hunt". From my perspective, as the "were all stuck in the same boat" legal and societal/social structures have been pulled away, the risk of free-riding or non-cooperation goes up and people adjust to a "mini-max" strategy (minimizing their maximum loss) that leaves a lot of potential upside on the table for both men and women (for you math nerds you both choose "rabbit" and end up in the lower right quadrant). I doubt this is going to change anytime soon, so I'm telling my son that it's probably a mistake to get married or put himself in a situation where any woman can screw up his life (e.g., having kids or cohabitating with a woman ). Hopefully non-hormonal male birth-control will arrive soon for him. Unfortunately this is a sub-optimal outcome for him (and everyone else) but its better than getting screwed. If he wants kids, I will advise him to have them through a surrogate.
Lol 😂 hahaha..not hardly iv had no sex at all haha I'm still waiting for something real ....I wait every day ...if no one comes it's ok ..lol life goes on
Great video again Suzanne and a couple thoughts. Spot on wrt social media and the culture being more of a detriment for the younger generation. It is up to the younger generation of women today (in their 20s) to look at the older generationg of women (in their 30s and older) to see if they want to live the same lifesetlye of relationships, and if the current generation of women are who they want to emulate. Second, what you said on note #8 or 9 about expectations....it is NOT JUST that women need to lower their expectations but most women do not even know WHAT they need in a man, so 1) yes their expecttions/laundry list is too long but 2) more importantly... women these days do not know what to value in a guy (imo). Most women will say the guy the want needs to have a 6 figure income, be a certain height, look a certain way, have a nice car..six 6s, etc.... right? But how many women say they want a guy who has a *stable life* and a *good value system*?? (these 2 things are the most important qualities a woman needs to find in a man imo). Those qualities are completely NOT related to a guys height, how he looks, his income, etc. If you look at the dating scene here in Washington D.C. women are selecting guys who are basically characters in their play/arm candy that fit a certain image but are utter morons/beta guys. So right from the get go, women do not know what they NEED. This is also why a lot of the red pill guys (Rollo Tomassi and R. Cooper all say women do not know what is good for them), and I have to agree with them. Thanks again for your video...agreed w/a solid 70 to 85% of it. Thanks again for your videos ma'am.
It seems to me that the proof is in the pudding. So, how are the consequences of priorizing your education and employment working out for you in terms of your present long-term goals. Is some change in order? Most probably because most people mature/change over time and so do your goals. Please always remember and never forget: In order for a man to behave like an adult he must be allowed to. That's not really my wisdom. That "allowed to" quote comes from a Katie Holmes/Michael Keaton movie called First Daughter. I assume that bit of wisdom works for male adult children as female.
Making money 💰 is a finite game ( or it seems to me it should be.) Making love in relationship "should be" an infinite game-- at least it should be thought of that way by both genders, but that attitude seems to be sadly lacking or there would be no need for all the dating and life coaches.
What I see is men refusing to share parenting and household tasks equally with their wives. Men want it both ways today. They want their wives to work AND be a traditional wife.
Suzanne, just looking at the comments, it seems like you're connecting with men, but not so much with women. While I want to encourage you, unfortunately, this is probably a small indication of how skewed our culture and society has become.
Women don't have to care about any views opposing to theirs, there will always be someone to save them, be it a wayward man or a government looking for their approval
Trust me, she’s connecting with women. It may not be the majority of them, but her content has been extremely helpful to me since I’ve been aware of her.
EXACTLY! We can talk statistics all day long, but this is a better way to make the obvious undeniable. There are a ton of men watching channels like this one, desperately wanting to have a serious relationship, doing whatever they can to improve themselves, change their thinking/expectations, and learning to navigate this new landscape no matter how hard the truth is to swallow... and almost no women doing the same. Until we can admit that this a major part of the problem, discussing everything else is like rearranging the deck chairs. I want a podcast on why the majority of your listeners are not women. Maybe it is indicative of why relations between the sexes are so damn dysfunctional. Having women meet us in the middle would be like a fantasy come true, we know its not going to happen, not unless you find that one in a hundred (and she is in very high demand...)
@@gdub8568 Unfortunately I think that a lot of modern women couldn’t care less about traditional relationships, thinking long-term, and making decisions with the future in mind. We live in such a heavy hookup and “city girls” culture and a lot of western women are incredibly desensitized and realize too late that they actually want marriage and a family, but by that point they’ve got too much baggage to have a healthy relationship anyways. I think it’s incredibly unfortunate that modern women constantly spout “Where are all the good men” but I believe the contrary to be the more accurate question to ask: “Where are all the good (marriage-minded, classy, non promiscuous) women?” This is such a multifaceted issue.
I'm not even going to view the video. 😕 Modern love is a mess because modern forth wave feminism screwed the pouch on this, and everything else. Period. End of discussion. The systemic & systematic dismantling of cultural western norms has led us here. It's nothing less than a Pyrrhic victory for feminism. A Pyrrhic victory (/ˈpɪrɪk/ (listen) PIRR-ik) is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat. Such a victory negates any true sense of achievement or damages long-term progress. -Wikipedia
Speaking for myself, rejection kinda sucks and I don't want to be seen as "creepy", so I may not approach a woman unless she's made her interest in me a LOT clearer than just (e.g.) 1 second of eye contact followed by nothing. Players are the experts at seduction and picking up on super-subtle hints. The rest of us may need something less ambiguous before we get the clue that you're attracted and would like to talk. Don't be afraid to be the one doing the approaching. It doesn't make you look desperate to a good man, it makes you look like a woman who is interested in talking to him, which is the truth after all, right?
pay attention young men... focus on yourself and only yourself. you are more than just a wallet. don't ever get marry, when she gets bore you will take a huge lost. Always remember she is never yours is just your turn. yeah no thank you!
Are you insane?!!!! "marriage is unfair to women...marriage is inherently patriarchal institution" The institution is unfair to men and only someone who is completely biased would think otherwise. Do you know how many men I have seen have their lives ruined by marriage. the laws that deal with marriage and child custody have to be completely revised to fit the modern narrative. If some women truly believe that marriage is unfair to women or a patriarchal institution then don't get married ( and you will save the lives of those unfortunate men who are still ignorant about marriage and child custody laws).
@@kmc1872 according to whom? And white women aren't only female voters, now are they? In general, women vote far more liberal than conservative, in most circumstances.
@@keylanoslokj1806 Our system was about as well balanced at it could be but modified from within to its current corruption. I don't think any system would work for any time without a reset and a built-in reset would also be undermined.
My wife became irritable during lockdowns and became somewhat anxious (she's lovely and a great wife) . She asked "how can you be in such a positive mood?" I told her "I get a week off work and we get to hang out - this is like a holiday to me"
Lori Gottlieb: “the majority of single women … said that getting 80 percent of what they wanted in a mate would be ‘settling,’ (but) the majority of single men said finding a woman with 80 percent of what they wanted would be ‘a catch.'”
And that 80% of what women want is from a list of at least 10 things, and those individual things each apply to only 10 % of the male population; 80% of what a man wants is from she likes me and she hasn't slept around to much.
@@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 Lori Gottlieb says some of her women clients have a list of 300 items they want in a husband while men have a very short list.
@@stevec3526 So men get 4 things out of 5 and that's a catch but women get 80 out of 100 things that's settling. LOL.
I’m a black man, and your content makes too much sense to me. Since I’ve been viewing these kinds of conversations I’ve become a better man.
Truth is truth. Truth has no race. Although different races may perceive reality differently.
The purpose of life is for us to make ourselves better people.
@metrokast same here brother
Same here man, a lot of this stuff directly affects our community.
I agree... I've read books by rollo, coach greg adams and others. I watched many Red vids. This ladies videos line up exactly.
@Face Meat That's interesting. I've done so much reading on the subject. I've come to think the odds are not good for marriage as we knew it to be. Suzanne venker has a channel and vids and with karen straughan have excellent vids on why men no longer marry. People like coach Greg Adams, Rollo Tomassi and others give reasons as well. It looks pretty bad. A man might have a chance in some of the Asian countries. Thailand, Philippines. Man men have found happiness in those countries.
Women's unrealistic expectations and their general disdain for men really struck a nerve with me. All ten points are valid but when a man has to satisfy a ten page "must have" list yet have no preferences or requirements and then hear day in and day out that we are total idiots; why bother with relationships?
Then, if you do pursue a relationship/marriage you have to face the completely unfair divorce and family laws that are biased against men.
As a sane man, I ask myself, "why do this, what benefit is there for me to risk everything when a woman can wake up, say she isn't happy and I will get kicked out of the home, have most of my assets taken and then pay alimony to boot?"
This may sound like hyperbole but I saw it play out over and over with many of my male friends. Seeing that, there was no way I was going to touch marriage.
@glevando: "This may sound like hyperbole ..."
It doesn't. It sounds like a pretty accurate portrayal of reality.
Dealing with American women in the present day has become a dangerous proposition when even an accusation can destroy a man’s life. If I was a young man today I would move to a male-friendly country if marriage was important to me.
@@GBU61 Well stated! There seems to be no hope for any changes that will hold women accountable when they make false accusations nor are the court systems going to start treating men fairly when women file for divorce. The system is rigged and any man that marries today is a fool.
The fact that you had to apologize for stating facts. " "This may sound like hyperbole ...""
I say this to Men. Stay single. Make money. Save money. Invent. Grow your wealth. And hire a surrogate. Never marry.
I have always prioritized relationship, love and marriage over money and career.
But, that's what comes of coming from a severely dysfunctional family of origin home and not wanting to repeat the mistakes of the past.
women give away what is priceless way too easily (sex before and outside of marriage), and men take advantage of this.
Many of us never have given it away. Our Mothers taught us.
A marriage that will last requires both partners to have the correct foundational mindset of "what is best for the cherished and valued marriage relationship that exists between us and not what is best for me'. This does not mean to neglect one's own goals, aspirations etc but to consider your husband/wife and children and consequences that may impact negatively on them.
I am pretty much in agreement with everything you've stated.
I happen to believe that I can be the best husband possible when I'm managing myself well(eating healthy, getting exercise, rest, and enough sleep), husbanding/saving my resources (being a good saver of time, energy, or money), and teaching/discipling/disciplining my own appetites.
Just cause I have access to a whole bag of cookies does mean it's good to "oink out" on them...there are other people in the house.
Concerning neglecting one's personal goals/growth, I think you are right on.
Everyone needs a certain amount of alone-time to remind themselves who they were/are, what is important to you, and hopefully to learn to appreciate your partner by missing them from time to time.
Relationships are a privilege.
People change as the decades pass.
Who I was at 20 is certainly not who I became at 30.
If I want to be granted the "slack to change" it only seems fair that I be willing to extend that same chance/choice to someone else.
Kevin Samuels makes millions of dollars per year on RUclips asking women one question: "What do the men that you want want?" Women have high expectations, but they never stop to think that there is a counterparty in the transaction. Women on Kevin's show get angry when they hear that men want something out of the deal.
I'm old and as the years pass I see women only becoming more and more selfish. Your point is on point.
They think having a punani is enough to lock down any man
@@keylanoslokj1806 Unfortunately, too many men fall for that trap and bait. It's just not worth it.
Suzanne, be good to hear/see a cast specifically addressing micro-cheating and emotional affairs/cheating. This is a HUGE issue issue with social media/messaging and phones causing increasing relationship breakdown.
One more, setting boundaries up front for a relationship.
I FEEL YOU, BROTHER! Emotional infidelity masked as friendships is so common among modern women that it has become the norm.
Re: #9. Hypergamy is fire and social media is gasoline.
Wow... what a pleasant surprise this was. I accidentally stumbled upon this, and the more I listened, the more I realized how rational and objective you are. Thanks for the reassurance that there are still some sensible people out there. Consider me subscribed.
I'm 56 and was warned not to marry at 18. I have been enjoying and also studying women since then. Women have been taught via the media, feminism, and colleges to NEVER BE HAPPY?! I have been enjoying my entire life and have flourished financially per never marrying. Men are waking up in society. Traditional women are missed.....wish I had one in my life but they are maybe 2% of the female population. Timmy C Arizona
People were programmed to never be happy through the opulent excess of their fellow countrymen. This is not getting fixed, period.
@@Illlium ~ generally a true statement, however; it acutely targets Women as destroying the Family Unit is The quickest and most effective means of destroying a successful society.
@@wattjock "successful"
Society doesn't collapse because the Family Unit is crumbling, the Family Unit evaporates because Society is cursed
@@Illlium "People were programmed to never be happy through the opulent excess of their fellow countrymen" Good grief, did you just graduate from the Socialist School of Politics? Person A's success doesn't make Person B unhappy. Person B's happiness is based upon Person B's actions and decisions. Society isn't cursed unless freedom is taken away.
@@justsomeguy934 Indeed, it already has been.
I have said this before, truly believe it, and will reiterate this.
It is up to conservative Women... to save America.
100% with you on this. The power differential between men and women has become so lopsided that it's now up to women to become aware of it and fix it.
@@nich586 nope. its not going to happen so get used to it.
@@kelliejackson3563 nope. No toxic feminism here.
@@kuifjehaddock5451 No trap, i dont care which gender responds. Feminism is here to stay and tbh will only get bigger with each new generation.
@@kelliejackson3563 ~ Feminism, as well as all the SJW bullshit dies when the first bullets are fired and the first bombs are dropped.
People in parts of the US can't even harvest rainwater and its the "free-est" country on earth? Really? That's media programming. Anyway, I like your show.
All I've tried to do is make finding a spouse my top priority for the last 30+ years.
Making money/wealth is relatively easy as compared with finding someone capable of loving me the way I need to be loved and learning what it means to build a strong committed relationship with a stranger starting not from scratch, but from a place of absolute fear and moving toward faith/belief in the possibility of co-creating a healthy marriage relationship with a friend.
It is impossible to make finding a spouse your top priority for 30 years. If it was your top priority you'd have been married 29.5 years ago.
One thing I've noticed is that feminism has cheapened the word "love". With phrases such as I love you but I'm not "in love" with you is the latest example. When I'm thinking about how back in grade school it was this person "liked" that person. It seems that it carries more weight than "I love you". There was a made for TV movie called "I love you, goodbye" starring starring Earl Holliman and Hope Lange. It was about a suburban house wife who became discontent through the lies of feminism. Look at the title. The word "love" in our society means nothing.
Feminism killed romance.
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#1 - "...what you saw growing up..." Men tend to marry their mothers, women tend to marry their fathers. Hard to fight that...
#5 - I know you said this in passing and I have to say it once more [from personal experience] - living near your family is good if it is a truly functional family. Living near dysfunctional family members only makes it harder to reject the current culture and live your life the way God intended you to.
Suzanne - you are a lighthouse in a stormy world...
My wife is nothing like my mother and I am nothing like her father.
@@stevec3526 That's a very good thing...congrats
my ex didn't marry her father ... she WAS her father. Her own mother said she was much like her Dad. Her sister however was much like her mother. A fine woman.
The way to stop the "tendency" to marry a woman with similar character qualities to your primary Parent is a process called individuation.
Funnily enough individuation is psychologically how you become an individual and it means that if you rightfully wish to call yourself an adult(male or female) you have to be able to say a definitive "No" to your now-supposed "equals" and if you can't say no and enforce that choice to say "no" to Your one- time Parents as a person of legal majority when necessary you are still living by their rules, regs. and boundaries which makes you their defacto psychological child with no genuine free will of your own, just sayin'.
Marriage is a struggle even without different frames of reference.
Its difficulty is only compounded by not having an iron-willed determination to make it work on the part of both partners.
This video REALLY hit the nail on the head!!
I appreciate the message here. I also must rise above the easy path of blaming something or someone for my unhappiness relating to marriage relationships. The sooner I can acknowledge my mistakes relating to decisions made within relationships. All the better. I’m recently divorced after 22yrs of marriage. I finally had to accept that I could not improve myself to make a marriage better. I had to accept that I ignored signs of emotional unhealthiness. I have the opportunity now to not settle. If that means a life without a woman of substance then so be it. The pain of being with someone who doesn’t have or exhibit a caring
I am 58. From the time I was about 20 the most important thing I wanted in life was to find a good woman that I could trust, love and have a family with. Everything else was secondary. Silly me. About 95% of my interactions with women have been negative. I have been laughed at, mocked, called names, ridiculed, manipulated and used for my money, my time or anything else of mine that she wanted. Well, I'm done. No more. Next week I am traveling to a certain state where I can pay a women to be nice to me. Yes, I realize it is fake but at least it may seem real for a while. I know what to expect up front. I know what I am paying for. When we are done I know she will not keep manipulating and using me. It may end up being a s**t show. But it is my choice. You young guys that think there is a woman out there for you. Sorry that is the biggest lie told to all men from the time they are 5 years old. It is not going to happen and even if it does, it won't be the wonderful thing you have been told it is.
Enjoy that trip to that "certain state"!!
Who cares if it's fake, your manhood doesnt know!
Times have changed, and only some of it has been good.
I'm so sorry to hear about your story. It saddens me as a woman to think our sex would treat men like that.
As a Man who has lived so far in the 10% of Men that Women actually desire, I can say my experience is the complete opposite. Ive dated/slept with hundreds of women and have rejected at least a 1000. I say this to confirm that Women are more shallow then Men regards looks, money, education and the other things on their laundry list of silliness. And Ive on purpose used my looks to nail/ghost women that insulted my male friends due to their supposed inadequacies, so that the latter got some vicarious revenge through my exploits. Its a harsh world.
‘Mediocre Tutorials and Reviews’ sent me here a week ago. Great content
Really looking forward to the course Suzanne...as a guy I need this information. I wish you well...
In my country Australia, the median time between getting hitched and separating is 8.4 years. From hitched to deev0rc€d is 12.1 years. These are the stats. It's over, everyone. Only a foolish man would make his life insanely difficult, sad and potentially tragic going down that path. My last relationship/date of any kind was in the late 90s. I walked away because it was crazy enough back then, and things are infinitely worse today. Peace and love to you all.
and the rest of it. Australia has had divorce in a long term downstream for about 15 years. Child custody and post divorce financial arrangements were reformed. Since about 2018 (roughy) we have been going through a counterstrike by feminists.
8.4 to 12.1 years is about how long it takes to get his house how she wants it, have a few kids ( child support, better divorce settlement ) when the kids are old enough to go off to school. In the UK we have 80/20 divorces - the woman gets 80% of the estate, 100% child custody, child support from the husband ( until the child is 21 years old ) as well as child benefit, the husband looses his wife, children and home, has to pay half of the mortgage, child support and half of his pension.
There's only ONE reason love is a mess.... Hypergamy doesn't care. And when a gynocentric social order unrestrains hypergamy, this is what you get.
No, it is womanism and entitlement.
Not every woman is hypergamous
@@benjaminandre9339 Every woman is hypergamous by nature, and every man is polygamous by nature. However, culture used to force people to suppress this nature, and now, with an open and free dating market, women act on their hypergamous instincts because they can, and the top 20% of men act on their polygamous instincts, since 80% of all women are willing to sleep with them.
Edit: If only women were hypergamous, the dating market wouldn't be as much of a mess as it is now, since the top 20% of men would only sleep with, date and marry the top 20% of women, forcing the remaining ones to be with other men.
@@katarzynakolodynska9387 not top 20 more like top 5 percent
There’s a multitude of reasons and all of them play a part…broaden perspective and you’ll have a conclusion with which you can build a strategy to better yourself and social life
Telling men to get married with the modern family court system is insanity.
Exactly. Suzanne has mentioned that in other podcast episodes. Even if you tackled the 10 items on her list that ticking time bomb hangs over every man's head and the woman can pull the pin and get rewarded for destroying the marriage.
Yep. I lost the six generation family/century farm when my wife chose she no longer wanted to be married to me. I didn't see it coming.
@@johnc.8298 wow, that is horrible and any reasonable person would not have taken it; they would have been decent enough to negotiate a different settlement but not today's vultures, err, I mean women
Thanks Suzanne, you'r one of the best voices on the internet.
This is one of her best podcasts. Listen and take notes. Take down the mass media-industrial propaganda complex too.
Great episode! Really glad to have found your content to learn and be better
If I love someone, then honoring that relationship becomes about self-sacrificial choice that I want to consider before actually making a choice that effects both of us.
However, as a guy, what I make financially or do for work has everything to do with relationships or marriage. That is the sad truth.
Suzanne...you are the mother that all American women need!thanks for the video
Sadly, #5 is a necessity for my husband and me. Both of us came from pretty toxic families and we don’t want them around our children. We do hope #5 isn’t an issue for our children once they grow up and have their own families.
Similar upbringing and values are huge. My wife and I met a little later (around age 27). At the time, we both had parents who had been married for almost 30 years. Her parents have now been married for 53 years. Mine made it to 46, and then we lost my dad.
Both of us came from Christian families who loved to laugh and spend time together. The first time I met her family, I felt right at home, as if I had known them for years. Even though I didn't have to, I still asked her dad's permission to marry her, which she greatly appreciated. Yes, we've had our challenges. But having our marriage build on a strong foundation has made all the difference in the world. I know that a lot of guys are discouraged and are giving up on dating. But I promised that there are still some good ones.
I think the reason relationships today are so messed up is because of the ME Generation ideology, that started in the 1970's and just kept getting worse. There was actually a kids show back then called 'The Most Important Person Is You", which really says a lot. When you start teaching children that no one is more important than themselves, is it any wonder they grow up with a wrong way of thinking? There was an old movie, from back in the 30's or 40's, where a couple was getting married and the minister was telling them that from now on, they have to make their own needs secondary. He told the husband to think of his wife's happiness first and told the wife to think of her husband's happiness first. People today would never agree to that.
The cost of some weddings could go to a house. Weddings are overrated. Just my thoughts. Out of topic
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My wedding cost $5k. My wife wanted to keep it cheap for that very reason. Honestly it was a nice wedding with minimal drama.
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Glad to hear you back
I am from the Midwest ,
The boots,hat and farm work area
Anyway please you and your acquaintances and friends with your show...do all you can to bail out the water we took on in 2021 and will in 2022
The women are lost and there is no saving it
BUT PLEASE PLEASE TRY
What you do is very important
Happy new year
Now ask the question: Which political aisle contributes MORE to weaving The 10 Reasons into the fabric of Western Culture... Left or Right?
The History is there for all to read about and witness everyday.
Too high of expectations and demands are super important and a big red flag for me. Well said
Organized religion is just as corrupt as government. Most people today believe in spirituality which has most of the same mindsets just without all the cult like rituals. You don't need religion to be a good person you need empathy
31:21 A better way to say lower your expectations is realistic expectations. I maybe cant be a brain surgeon but what I can do is still pretty great.
I think, men and women both have rather high wishes towards a partner. The problem ist, that while mens minimum expectation is much lower, the expectation of women is quite the same as their wishes.
I'm just looking for a woman with integrity. I have been looking for that for decades.
@@gordonlawrence1448 im sure you are not just looking for a woman with integrity. Im sure other factors are important and there's nothing wrong with that.
@@gordonlawrence1448 good luck. Personally, I think you have a better chance of finding a unicorn, while being struck by lightning coming out of an asteroid, while holding 6 winning lottery tickets all won on the same day.
I'm looking forward to your course this year. 🙏🏿
@SuzanneVenker Men aren't afraid of marriage and commitment, we're afraid of divorce.
Investing time, energy, love and money into someone only to have it all fall apart for unknown reasons. When the chance of divorce was 1 in 10 it was worth the gamble. Now its roughly 5 in 10 with women filing most divorces it's a lot more risky, too risky for many!
Most men want to know how do you make a woman happy? How do you make a woman to stay? Noone seems to have the answers.
1) Listen to her. Ask her (your woman). Do the things she says make her happy.
2) Respect her, trust her. Treat her like you want her to treat you. Also be selective of the woman you decide to commit to. Choose a woman who is family-minded. A woman who wants the same things out of life that you want.
You can’t make a woman happy, that’s the trap many men fall into.
She needs to already have her own inner security and self esteem. That’s something you need to vet for early in the beginning of dating
You can only add to what’s already there. If she’s empty, she’ll be like a black hole that’s never satisfied
It's not a view of marriage, it's a view of women aren't wives.
and men aren't husbands.
@@caronadams4486wrong
After the dealings with women I have had in the last 30 years+ I would rather disembowel myself with a blunt plastic teaspoon than get involved with a woman again. My first wife only married me to divorce me later (she stuck to the plan she made 6 months before we married to the letter). My second wife left me due to accusations that proved to be false. I would not mind so much as she absolutely knew some of them were false as they were things I had supposedly done to her so she knew the accusers were liars. Almost all of the rest I have caught doing something wrong. Then of course there is the sheer sense of entitlement and denial, and of course lack of accountability. Also with prenups why would any guy not want one. On average guys come in with assets women come in with debts. Women instigate divorces 80% of the time and the guy ends up walking away with the debt while the woman gets the assets. What kind of swivel eyed lunatic would think that's ok?
I'm very sorry you had the experience you had. What should be done is to tell young men about marital liability BEFORE they get married. It sounds like you know what to do.
Yes. The risks for men today are simply too high to chance marriage. The family is dead and so is Western society.
Well said and so true. You summed up today's marriage proposition for men well. It's a crappy deal.
@@cstuartdc what personal responsibility do you expect him to have given his stories of marriage? Given his rendition is true, he's most certainly the victim of female behavior, not doing the same thing as his wife did.
Hahhaahahah👍
Agreed!
Disembodiedment would be my choice
But ya know to each his own
We all know what caused all of this and why marriage is a bad deal for many, if not most men in the west.
Society has to support traditional relationships and marriage, or it won't happen. Too much risk involved, especially for men.
I used to believe in marriage, but not anymore after getting married twice and divorce raped twice including my first wife of 6 years getting custody of my 2 sons after the court determined her being mentally ill. My second wife of 28 years told me after we were married that she had been through treatment twice for alcohol and drug addiction. I stuck with her and we had a son after 5 miscarriages' which were caused by an in incompetent cervix that had been damaged by an abortion she had had when she was on drugs and was prostituting for drug money. She had also not thought to mention that to me before we were married. Then when I retired in 2016 and wouldn't give her money for drugs, she filed for divorce and the judge gave her 67% of my assets while she had next to nothing in assets as she couldn't hold a job and had hidden her assets before filing for divorce due to irreconciled differences. So I am now quite happy living by myself on a ranch, I also feel like even though I was trying to do the right thing, I was cheated by the anti male laws out there when a man goes through divorce. I agree with everything you are saying, but it is too risky if you are a man to get married because of the fickleness of women and terrible divorce laws. It would be different if they would go back to the old laws of 60 years ago where a spouse wanting divorce had to show cause, but that will never happen. Interesting to note that we are experiencing the lowest marriage rates and the highest divorce rates at the same time resulting in less then 50% of adults being married at this time. This is also the cause of the U.S. having the lowest birth rates on record too.
Wow! Hang in there brother!!
I worked with a therapist to "improve" my relationship with a girlfriend who was bipolar. I later realize that the therapy doomed that relationship. I talked with my therapist and they said as a person gets healthier the people they are in relationship also get healthier.
It's not just the USA it's also almost all of the western world.
More awareness needed to save men from marriage trap.
Men shoud speak up in every forum about injustice of Family law.
#No Wife Happy Life
@@Redbeth4 Men and women are attracted to partners that allow them to work through their issues. If you have an unhealthy partner then you are also unhealthy.
Suzanne, I’ve been married and divorced twice. My experience with the court is what most men can expect. Second class status if you’re lucky. I would have given my eye teeth to find a woman like yourself. Unfortunately, unicorns are few and far between. Love your show.
@Abstract Angel Artist It must suck to go through life being an angry little pissant. Grow up.
@Abstract Angel Artist Nah, your mom did.
@Abstract Angel Artist GFY.
Marry Pearly Things.
It’s just plain old selfishness rooted in the pain of loss and failure
It took me 15 years to find a woman worth marrying and she is Japanese, not an American.
Too many of the American women I dated had personality disorders.
We have a pre-nup and 3 sets of accounts. We have been married 32 years now,
Could you please say more? Tell us about the 3 accounts?
@@Ratlegion Every month we both put a significant amount of money in the family accounts. This is for all the family and housing expenses. Both of us have separate checking, savings and retirements accounts that are in our names.
If she wants to spend $6K on a new sewing machine from her money that is up to her.
@@stevec3526 thank you for the clarity, exactly the details I was seeking
A guy who indicates he is putting his family first will get laid off. It is expected that a man will commit himself to his job. If he doesn’t show this, he will get weeded out. Gurls can have it either way.
Suzanne....I appreciate the way you address the tough issues with straight talk...especially to have realistic expectations and to not waste time in the company of non-compatible potentials. I'm a 58 year old male and still married after 29 years. My health, finances, and happiness are better for it. "The quality of your life depends on the quality of your relationships." I do not expect my wife to be a perfect list of my requirements....and I am certainly not everything she wishes for. However, the big compatible items are checked-off and we've a civil way to work out the rest. There is always some portion of the marriage that is lacking at any time....it's foolish to think it will be a sunny day all the time. So much of what you are saying I realized back in the early '90s and created personal guidelines to avoid non-compatible women (many had great qualities, but just not right for me). There were plenty of narcissistic and Feminist women in the 80s and 90s, albeit no Social Media or dating apps to deal with, but there were plenty of good women too.
I'm saddened by how many men are in the MGTOW movement....that movement seems like just the male side of the same Feminist coin...."All women are out to get you, so "pursue excellence", "spin plates", etc. etc." If 50% of marriages fail, then 50% of marriages don't and some portion of those are actually good marriages. Seems my brothers should seek to understand how those relationships succeed, rather than watch RUclips videos providing them "confirmation bias" and no real solutions. I'm really astounded how many of these MGTOW types are betting on a future relationship with a 20 or 30 year age difference. Like that ends well.
I agree with you because I've watched those kind of videos.
The dude that’s been married for 30 years trying to tell men how to handle the current dating world. If you’ve been married for 30 years you are beyond clueless about the current dating scene and should stay in your lane
Marriage is a gamble that more than 1/2 end up in divorce with women initiating 80% of the time. Naww, change the laws and we can maybe come back.
I remember when I was eating my Cheerios as a young little fella that a thought came to me: "I don't wanna get married 'cause I don't wanna get divorced." Even then I knew something was wrong with it. When there are at least 10 things wrong with modern "love", is there really any point in pursuing it?
I remember seeing my folks near-constantly bickering about "nothing of real substance.
I told myself at some point during all the fighting and tears(mostly on my Mother's side) I would not subject my kids to this kind of frequent emotional upset.
I told/promised myself that I would do a better job of marrying and living in harmony with my wife and the Mother of our children.
As to whether or not to pursue Marriage.
No matter how close your individual mindsets are concerning the topic of marriage you will face your own heartaches.
But, if you practice regular self-examination and you deal with the issues that come up for you proactively and your partner does the same I still believe you/I can have a great relationship throughout your marriage.
But, it's about putting in the effort and doing the work.
Reflection on marriage begs the question: How ready am I for a marathon, because that's exactly what a marriage is supposed to be.
And bc it is a marathon, it's infinitely better to make the trip with a friend who knows you intimately.
As a kid I always remember saying to myself in the midst of a highly dysfunctional and contentious family of origin I can do better than this!
On some level I can't fully explain or understand even myself I knew I could do relationships and marriage better than my folks.
"Marriage is unfair to women" has been pushed like mad. The problem today is that the reality of family courts and the double standards around behaviours - has ensured that marriage when looked at with a cold hard eye, looks like a very bad deal from his perspective. Sure - she can "take divorce off the table" but it still hangs over him like the sword of Damocles.
She can openly express all kinds of expectations wants and discussion of physical attributes if he does the same? She can touch and he is the issue if he does not appreciate it, if he does the same?
It is time to acknowledge the most important audience going forward for feminism, #metoo and so much else, that is young men.
She can see and reject the lies and understand how they are poisoning her life. He has no real way to do so, and it is not a lie that abused men are arrested, abusive women protected. it is not a lie that fathers have been treated as disposable, nor it is a lie that men have been cast as enemy other by a loud and endless narrative of feminism. Trust is something that women started with, and dating has been about him winning hers. Now, increasingly it is he who does not trust, and for good reason, and our standards of dating and norms of approach, make it very hard for her to address this.
Oh - and work having been defined as privilege - which men know is false.
Parents can become used to/addicted to control of "their" children.
But children are really only "children" for so long and gradually more responsibility and accountability become theirs as they are allowed to make more choices for themselves.
Consequently, if you have controlling People/ Parent(s) in your life you don't have to abandon them, but you probably should set a boundary/limit on how much time you do spend with them if you are newly married.
Otherwise, how do you know if you are leading your own life?
The money thing is huge. People are encouraged to “display” their money by having a certain car , house, trips, etc. So if a guy doesn’t show these outward displays of his money many women will see him as broke or financially unstable. But they don’t realize this guy may actually have a nice little cushion saved in the bank and those outward displays of his financial status just aren’t important to him.
What i think has happened is a shift in the mindset, from relationship/marriage being more important than oneself. To what can marriage do for me. So people go in with the idea that marriage is about them and what marriage can do for them, not what they can do to make a marriage work. This has happened on both sides of men and women if you ask me. Because i see it in my friends and family, the way they talk about it. "There is no point in getting married, we are together that is enough" To me that sounds more like an excuse, because if you plan to stay together why not get married than?
It sounds like "this is good for now but maybe i want to have another partner later why complicate things" The reason why you complicate things is for you to stay together, that it requires work and effort to split up so you are more likely to put in work into the marriage itself so it doesnt break. That if it gets tough its easier to fix the marriage than it is to just split up.
A relationship with a woman is not a "matter of course" proposition.
Women, themselves are not a straight-forward matter of fact proposition.
Since women are the potential carriers of the species and largely emotional creatures as well as being attractive to men they usually require special care.
More important than a relationship with a woman, how's your relationship with yourself?
Do you have felt security? Do you feel anxious about telling the people you care about that you think you've found the one?
Do you self-examine/reflect regularly and work on your areas of needed growth?
Can you walk away from a relationship if need be without falling apart emotionally?
Everything would go so much better if guys would do what they are told to do. That’s what mom told me. Years ago.
She needed told to eat crap.
As a Genetic Primary Psychopath I'm going to focus on a Dormant ability that I have not used yet. It's going to change greatly for women 30+ now. Psychopathic Shock Trauma is now going to be practiced and honed
Feminists have been bashing men for 50 years. Most of us have simply had enough and have adopted an attitude of indifference regarding women. Indifference equals survival.
I recently moved in with my boyfriend of 3 yrs. we've been long distance for 2 years and moving in has not been happy as I thought. I do not think it's the moving in that's the problem, I think a lot has changed over 2 years and not that we are together, we do not know how to communicate or validate each other's presence. He doesn't seem enthusiastic to have me around, he goes about doing his own thing without asking me or getting me involved. it's only been a couple of days and I am already unhappy. I do not think i am asking for too much. What should I do?
Truly trying not to come across as putting blame on one person. You aren't getting the scientifically proven hard wired subconscious validation (emotional need) you were getting from the guys that were chasing you on a daily basis when you 2 lived apart. You can deny this nature all you want. Now you are together you are having to go "cold turkey' from that ( I won't deny it's hard). Again due to distance he's subconsciously used to' living by himself,' not having someone there daily not realizing he's doing this. IMHO Maybe be "so" """"" focused """" on achieving something at work/school ( the subconscious hard wired nature of being a hunter/ get it done, logical and putting the emotions last) sorry that's the way it is. Years ago when I and my girlfriend moved in together we experienced some of these aspects as well. Unfortunately we grew apart due to unresolved issues from our past. Hope this helps
"Your desire shall be contrary to[f] your husband, but he shall rule over you.” Genesis 3:16. All you need to know about all these issues!
This generation will sooner convert to Islam than go back to the Christian "teachings". You wanna know why? Cause it makes slightly more sense.
"How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man." Jer. 31:22
The rate of finding partners is in church is below 10% now. More than 40% is online, so I'm not sure why you are misrepresenting the data.
Edit: actually, I'm pretty sure the modern church is a mechanism of female social hierarchy climbing which is one of the reasons men left.
It depends on where you are. It varies quite a lot by area.
I'd agree always a pastor preaching to the wives and demeaning husbands
ruclips.net/video/_N6c-7UqFSk/видео.html. Skip to 2:35:00
How about comparing modern expectations to what would be a basic realistic goal. ?
Dear Mrs Venker, As a 60-something I can recall when women were referred to as the "old ball and chain" .
This seems a reference to women holding men/husbands back, doesn't it?
Reference 9.19 of the video.
My ex was too screwed up ( but did conceal that problem ) thinking she was functional. She used to challenge me ( screaming it right into my face ) .. saying that "I wasn't even a man if I couldn't beat a woman" .... I am too peaceful , as observed in from my parents modeling, and never would have raised a hand to violate her. This kind of mess was NOT surmountable , hence divorce
my dude! my ex wife would do the same thing and try to get me to hit her. said I wasn't a man because I refused to hit her...
I was raised by a single mother and raised never to hit a woman. I never have... but I've been hit by women more times than I can count. it's a wicked double standard
@@Svrakiss Indeed .. women .. can't figure them out.
Same woman, with the next man ( who was reported to be very violent )( and would readily strike ) ... they are still together, 20 years, and happy.
I still advise not to hit a female ... unless kink play is practiced - and there since I have found many women who want to be whipped, spanked, disciplined - but notice how I am changing the 'wording'.
I would like to see her interview Roger Devlin.
I think all men in America need to ask themselves this question, "If professional athletes, successful businessmen, famous actors, and powerful politicians can't stay happily married with their money, power, and fame then what hope is there for the average joe?"
at some stage western governments will follow Israel into doing something about fertility (average child per woman). We can get a 2.1 by encouraging the women that really, really like having kids to have large families. I have done the back of the envelope numbers. 20% of families averaging 5 children will work. The stability employed and stability married requirements are going to make this controversial (Australia tried this without those requirements nearly 20 years ago, the result was not good.)
Most people hide from the storm or the flood. Some of us, just a few hoist the sail or climb in the kayak
Get enough men to bathe deeply in the tubs of marriage-free life, and why wouldn’t they want to stay there? Look at the stories of the saps who got taken to the cleaners! Proud to be marching to my own drum!
The damage is done and is permanent. And horrific economic collapse is on its way. So avoid relationships and forget marriage.
Better to enjoy your life and give up on naive delusions....faithful, loving women are in short supply.
Hi, Suzanne Venker.
As per usual, your content is pretty danged good, at least up to where I stopped listening at 6.34.
Why did I stop listening?
I 'figgered' out a LONNNGGGGG time ago that peace and happiness are danged hard to find within one's self but IMPOSSIBLE to find OUTSIDE of one's self. I don't NEED anybody else in my life for me to be happy and at peace with myself and the world.
Yes, it might be nice to have somebody as happy and at peace with themselves and the world with whom to share said peace and happiness and perhaps enhance it for both of us but not having that 'somebody' does not diminish my peace and happiness.
The TWO genders, men and women, ARE different. They were designed/have evolved NOT to be competitive as feminazism would have us believe but rather to be COMPLEMENTARY to each other. But feminazism, the 'meejya' and lawmakers have pretty successfully buried that FACT.
I could give you some reasons why they have cooperated/conspired to do this but that is beyond the scope of this comment and might be hard for some people to get their heads around, even unpalatable to others.
I have had 2 long-term relationships, an almost 20 year marriage and an almost 11 year de facto relationship. BOTH of these women turned out to be manipulators, each in their own way.
I think I might be getting smarter 'coz it only took me just over 1/2 as long to wake up the second time. There was almost a third but I woke up to that one WAY before there was any serious relationship.
I have been on my own now since Christmas, 2004, and I am fully prepared to STAY that way until I leave this 'mortal coil'.
Don't get me wrong. I LIKE women. I just don't like what I see that they have become, generally speaking. F'rinstance, there is a 28 year old waitress/server atta restaurant that I 'frequent/haunt' who has 3 year old twin girls who are a handful. And she is out nightclubbing and drinking 2 and 3 times a week. She has 'had' at least 3 relationships in the 2 1/2 years that I have known her and ALL have failed 'coz it was 'the man's fault'.
She THRIVES on attention from men and constantly seeks validation from others. She thinks she izz at least a '9' and at best izz about a '4', not 'coz of her looks but 'coz of her 'atti-tood'.
And she is FAR from being the only one.
On top of that, the GREAT majority of women DEMAND complete honesty from men but have ZERO intention or sense of need to offer men the same in return.
HOW can I say that?????????????
Just ONE example - How many women do you know who DON'T wear make-up, high heels, false eyelashes or fingernails, etc., color their hair and/or nails, wear jewellery, padded or uplift bras and/or foundation garments - - - - and the list goes on.
NONE of the above is anything but LIES about who and what they REALLY are.
"Make the best of what you have." By trying to enhance the good and HIDE the rest??????????
What is that if not misrepresenting 'the product' - - - which is outright lying. You can be taken to court for that in industry or commerce - - - - - but not in marriage?????????????????
Just a part of my 0.02.
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
Rollo believes marriage for men in the West in the 21st century is an unconscionable contract. I agree with him and a debate between you and him on this would be very interesting. I know you've had him on before. Keep up the great work.
Rollo doesn’t even preach what is good to find a wife. He is actually one of the most gynocentric people in the manosphere and for the last year he appears to be in a permanent stage of weirdo rage!
Not marring anyone or anything I don't have lieing in my bed believe that
You had me until prenups. Modern women are too fickle and unreliable to not ALWAYS get prenups.
I appreciate your efforts, but listening to this my only thought was "Hard Pass." It's just not worth the risk. Being a man and math literate, I will point out the game theory game of "stag hunt". From my perspective, as the "were all stuck in the same boat" legal and societal/social structures have been pulled away, the risk of free-riding or non-cooperation goes up and people adjust to a "mini-max" strategy (minimizing their maximum loss) that leaves a lot of potential upside on the table for both men and women (for you math nerds you both choose "rabbit" and end up in the lower right quadrant). I doubt this is going to change anytime soon, so I'm telling my son that it's probably a mistake to get married or put himself in a situation where any woman can screw up his life (e.g., having kids or cohabitating with a woman ). Hopefully non-hormonal male birth-control will arrive soon for him. Unfortunately this is a sub-optimal outcome for him (and everyone else) but its better than getting screwed. If he wants kids, I will advise him to have them through a surrogate.
Lol 😂 hahaha..not hardly iv had no sex at all haha I'm still waiting for something real ....I wait every day ...if no one comes it's ok ..lol life goes on
Great video again Suzanne and a couple thoughts. Spot on wrt social media and the culture being more of a detriment for the younger generation. It is up to the younger generation of women today (in their 20s) to look at the older generationg of women (in their 30s and older) to see if they want to live the same lifesetlye of relationships, and if the current generation of women are who they want to emulate.
Second, what you said on note #8 or 9 about expectations....it is NOT JUST that women need to lower their expectations but most women do not even know WHAT they need in a man, so 1) yes their expecttions/laundry list is too long but 2) more importantly... women these days do not know what to value in a guy (imo). Most women will say the guy the want needs to have a 6 figure income, be a certain height, look a certain way, have a nice car..six 6s, etc.... right? But how many women say they want a guy who has a
*stable life* and a *good value system*?? (these 2 things are the most important qualities a woman needs to find in a man imo).
Those qualities are completely NOT related to a guys height, how he looks, his income, etc. If you look at the dating scene here in Washington D.C. women are selecting guys who are basically characters in their play/arm candy that fit a certain image but are utter morons/beta guys.
So right from the get go, women do not know what they NEED. This is also why a lot of the red pill guys (Rollo Tomassi and R. Cooper all say women do not know what is good for them), and I have to agree with them. Thanks again for your video...agreed w/a solid 70 to 85% of it. Thanks again for your videos ma'am.
It seems to me that the proof is in the pudding.
So, how are the consequences of priorizing your education and employment working out for you in terms of your present long-term goals.
Is some change in order?
Most probably because most people mature/change over time and so do your goals.
Please always remember and never forget: In order for a man to behave like an adult he must be allowed to.
That's not really my wisdom.
That "allowed to" quote comes from a Katie Holmes/Michael Keaton movie called First Daughter.
I assume that bit of wisdom works for male adult children as female.
The most sad part is very few women will be listening to this podcast
Add has gotten worst on youtube This is getting rediculous!!!!
Making money 💰 is a finite game ( or it seems to me it should be.) Making love in relationship "should be" an infinite game-- at least it should be thought of that way by both genders, but that attitude seems to be sadly lacking or there would be no need for all the dating and life coaches.
What I see is men refusing to share parenting and household tasks equally with their wives. Men want it both ways today. They want their wives to work AND be a traditional wife.
What is called love today is not love. Avoidance of women is the purest form of self love there is.
Suzanne, just looking at the comments, it seems like you're connecting with men, but not so much with women. While I want to encourage you, unfortunately, this is probably a small indication of how skewed our culture and society has become.
Women don't have to care about any views opposing to theirs, there will always be someone to save them, be it a wayward man or a government looking for their approval
Trust me, she’s connecting with women. It may not be the majority of them, but her content has been extremely helpful to me since I’ve been aware of her.
most women are not interested in what this old woman has to say. Good.
EXACTLY! We can talk statistics all day long, but this is a better way to make the obvious undeniable. There are a ton of men watching channels like this one, desperately wanting to have a serious relationship, doing whatever they can to improve themselves, change their thinking/expectations, and learning to navigate this new landscape no matter how hard the truth is to swallow... and almost no women doing the same. Until we can admit that this a major part of the problem, discussing everything else is like rearranging the deck chairs.
I want a podcast on why the majority of your listeners are not women. Maybe it is indicative of why relations between the sexes are so damn dysfunctional. Having women meet us in the middle would be like a fantasy come true, we know its not going to happen, not unless you find that one in a hundred (and she is in very high demand...)
@@gdub8568 Unfortunately I think that a lot of modern women couldn’t care less about traditional relationships, thinking long-term, and making decisions with the future in mind. We live in such a heavy hookup and “city girls” culture and a lot of western women are incredibly desensitized and realize too late that they actually want marriage and a family, but by that point they’ve got too much baggage to have a healthy relationship anyways. I think it’s incredibly unfortunate that modern women constantly spout “Where are all the good men” but I believe the contrary to be the more accurate question to ask: “Where are all the good (marriage-minded, classy, non promiscuous) women?” This is such a multifaceted issue.
I'm not even going to view the video. 😕
Modern love is a mess because modern forth wave feminism screwed the pouch on this, and everything else.
Period.
End of discussion.
The systemic & systematic dismantling of cultural western norms has led us here.
It's nothing less than a Pyrrhic victory for feminism.
A Pyrrhic victory (/ˈpɪrɪk/ (listen) PIRR-ik) is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat. Such a victory negates any true sense of achievement or damages long-term progress.
-Wikipedia
Religion lol well not everyone believes in that energy...that energy has never done anything for me despite me helping others all my life ....
Guess I'm different I only date my same type race it's not racist I gust am more comfortable with same ..I'm aquarius white man thanks for reading
You forgot 1 reason, in terms of marriage/divorce laws they are hugely in favor of women and a terrible deal for the men. Men decides to longer marry.
Whom should we marry? There are no good men out there. Only players, cheaters, users, and abusers.
Speaking for myself, rejection kinda sucks and I don't want to be seen as "creepy", so I may not approach a woman unless she's made her interest in me a LOT clearer than just (e.g.) 1 second of eye contact followed by nothing. Players are the experts at seduction and picking up on super-subtle hints. The rest of us may need something less ambiguous before we get the clue that you're attracted and would like to talk. Don't be afraid to be the one doing the approaching. It doesn't make you look desperate to a good man, it makes you look like a woman who is interested in talking to him, which is the truth after all, right?
17:00. It's almost as though you're trying to bend GOD'S plan around your time frame.
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pay attention young men... focus on yourself and only yourself. you are more than just a wallet. don't ever get marry, when she gets bore you will take a huge lost. Always remember she is never yours is just your turn.
yeah no thank you!
There’s a god ?! Get real
Are you insane?!!!! "marriage is unfair to women...marriage is inherently patriarchal institution" The institution is unfair to men and only someone who is completely biased would think otherwise. Do you know how many men I have seen have their lives ruined by marriage. the laws that deal with marriage and child custody have to be completely revised to fit the modern narrative.
If some women truly believe that marriage is unfair to women or a patriarchal institution then don't get married ( and you will save the lives of those unfortunate men who are still ignorant about marriage and child custody laws).
Reason modern love is a mess? Feminism and giving females the right to vote.
people are a mess, every human system cracks and is undermined given enough time to learn it.
@@copperback1637 yes everything gets corrupted, but there are better systems than others
@@kmc1872 according to whom? And white women aren't only female voters, now are they? In general, women vote far more liberal than conservative, in most circumstances.
@@keylanoslokj1806 Our system was about as well balanced at it could be but modified from within to its current corruption.
I don't think any system would work for any time without a reset and a built-in reset would also be undermined.