I don’t think Rengoku should be full AOE. But like, His 9th form “Rengoku” was literally his big massive fucking fire tornado, that AOE circle should definitely be bigger and MAYBE make the tornado a bit bigger too.
@@TreatFruit11 I dunno, you can just place him at the start and set him to attack "closest" and he's gonna inflict the debuff on everything so I think it's alright
I see people keep talking about how he's doing double his damage and he has the most damage of any unit base, and I just gotta say that DMG is cool but Range and AOE is important as well. Like wow he does 20k Damage!... in this small little circle! Units are going walk past him like nothing man. Also go look at old AA rengoku and check out his animation, moves, and AOE. EVERY unit doesn't have to be full AOE, but if a unit that's supposed to be hard to get exists, they at least need a bigger circle IF they are going to be a circle attack. Sad to say, but old AA rengoku is just leagues better mechanic wise. These AV devs got a long way to go
a secret doesn't have to be meta for everything, when things need to be used for burn such as rengoku he'd be the ideal choice to get rid of lets say "frost" enemies. This game shouldn't be power creep based, but instead a stratagy based one with each unit being used for specific things, that's why in BTD you have a diverse of units for situational occurentes.
im feeling the same way tbh, they branded themselves as the new AA but they just arent living up to it, tbh play AV made me realise even more how good AA was for its time
Frl tho, rengoku was a letdown in AA and hes aletdown here aswell, if anything it reminds me of how he got outdatedthe very next update in aa 😅@@gaturrooficial2727
Fun fact: his purg flames does NOT mean he is doing double his dmg as burn. He is doing 60% but also debuffing the enemies, so if other units with burn attack them their burn does 40% more. (His might do 40% more but 40% of 60% is actually 24% so he will be doing 84% of his dmg as burn, as long as a different rengoku already inflicted the enemy with purg flames) (Also imo his effects were 100% slept on, in the anime he had a massive bolt of fire and huge tiger dragon thing for ninth form with like thunder effects, and in the game he just charges forward and creates a flame tornado) Another complaint which i think aa did right was aoe. Most modern atd games secrets have a full aoe or a MASSIVE circle. Its not fun and unique, cus it turns the units into "whoever has higher dmg is better" which just isnt fun at all. I would like to see a lot more cones, lines, and less full aoe. Or maybe try something new with different aoe that no other game has, like an attack with multiple little circles or multiple cones or a line aoe that curves or a boomerang u shaped aoe. (Idk just a rant)
They shoulda gave rengoku a bunch of range and a medium sized line aoe, he can’t solo waves by himself because his aoe is too small and his spa is too low, but if he had a lot of range and a line aoe he would be a good unit to help defend in the early game so you can build up your full aoe units like tengen or Igris, currently it doesn’t really seem worth it to grind for him
Hear me out… THANK GOD HE ISNT FULL AOE. Dude if they just make every secret full aoe it would get stain real quick and they would all be so similar, I’m happy to see they arnt doing tht
Nah this is so true. Anime defenders made almost every meta unit full ape and it just made the game feel so boring. Especially in aa full aoe units werent to easy to come by pluse most meta units in aa werent even full aoe.
@@bluuthompson3359nah full ape units will always do less dmg than none full ape units or should 9/10 times pulse the passive is what makes or breaks units in this game
there is so many things bugged smh. 2 weeks for a bugged update thats not even a full upd, it's 0.5 of an update...Last night I set up macro for inf to grind gems and woke up today with 0 gems because inf was bugged....These devs rlly need to get it together, we need a big code or something for this. List of current bugs ik about: 1. inf 2. story (fixed now) 3. you cant see how many spiderwebs u own even when u go to the npc
if its all additive and they didnt include the damage extra, he does +100% fire damage, hes the meta dps and a crazy burn buffer, he just lacks in aoe, but you can get a aoe unit for that, hes an awesome unit
They gotta rework the passives. Rengoku doesnt actually burn enemies in the anime. So if ur gonna add burn, make it feel right. Passive 1- Set your heart a blaze: Rengoku gets a 2% damage buff every wave until he gets a 20% damage boost. When he does get the 20% damage boost, second passive activates. Passive 2- Infernal Willpower: After ''Set your heart a blaze'' is activated, you deal 35% extra burn damage and rengoku gets a more intense fire aura. Passive 3- Purgatory Flames: After ''Set your heart a blaze'' is activated, attacking an already burning enemy will apply ''Purgatory flames'' that will deal 2% of rengoku's attack damage every second until the enemy dies. (The fire never extinguishes) + Attack AOE size buff and it will be a good secret unit
@@batukarabulut7743 first of all, hes not even a secret hes an exclusive, and comparing him to both alucard and igris, he straight up deals more damage with the burn and his passives, hes just not full aoe. Also the passives you suggested are just stupid ngl.
They just made raid shop, Igris raid shop, new achievements and the last 10 or more rows of the bp is ALL REROLLS, y’all just need to put in the work to get them, I don’t have the bp completed or all achievements but Ik I can get them done with a bit of work stop complaining.🤷🏾♂️(can’t macro never have been able too)
@@late8gaming787 Im not really complaining. I can grind the rrs just fine this update, i would just like there to be a mode in the future. That's all really.
I just dont like his animations, they really dropped the ball on this one, his damage is ok, but his AOE is absolutely horrendous for an exclusive unit, sasuke with monarch does 72k+ DMG and up on every hit after the first one because his passive actually works in a way where if a unit was inflicted with stun he then deals 50% extra DMG to it even if the enemy is no longer stunned (observation i made) and then the stacking DMG increase on repeat attacks and hes cheaper than rengoku to max so sasuke is a better boss killer than he is lmao, even their AOE circle and SPA is roughly the same, and with sasuke you get the added stun effect on top of that. If rengoku is meta because of this, so is sasuke, and nobody thinks sasuke is meta. You can argue the burn DMG increase makes him with obito meta, but you can just bring sasuke and an igris for bosses instead. Idk, maybe in the future he'll be better with better fire units. This update is a massive flop and literally only tengen is worth investing in for another full AOE dps unit who btw now deals the same dps as igris does with full passives which is ridiculous, why did they nerf igris to be as strong or weaker than a mythic, hes a secret for god sake.
@@csjjk2271 L ass fucking take full aoe isnt stomping 60% burn dmg which buff his own dmg 💀and out dpsing him by 2x, get igris if u want a full aoe that bad
10K no passive apard to the other 2 igris does like 13k full aoe and hes a circle aoe no trait evo lvl 50 should do like 20k i feal like a small circle should not be that bad bruh 🙏
@@alexgordo5435 Let's be real, igris does full aoe 45 range 25k damage with stun immunity + x1.4 dmg to bosses when buffed by sjw, which also does like 20k dmg each + summons, rengoku is really not needed
@@Octalion they nerfed igris hard. he only does like 15k at max rank (not including sjw). With sjw I think he can get up to 19k with no damage trait. I agree he's still a lot better than rengoku but it's not as crazy as you're making it sound.
Yeah the effects are cool but they shouldve made it bigger, it wouldve looked cooler especially for the ninth form :/ bigger effect and bigger circle wouldve been perfect :/
Meta is a joke. Rengoku was done poorly and it's a fact. How is an exclusive unit somehow only top four in DPS? And the game only has a few units so top four is pretty bad.
@@RobloxianBalIer that circle aoe is shit, the devs never upgrade the circle aoes, if you thinking thats gonna help in the igris boss, then you’re delliusional because you literally need igris or tegen
@@minicraft09 Did you watch the video, 7 enemies where able to fit on his aoe that's not small at all and he has. Massive multi hit if you think that only full aoe units can be used to beat the boss rush then that's a skill issue because it's possible without full aoe
@@LuisLacy-gr2mnNo other unit does more damage than that with zero damage buffs from traits. If that’s mid, every single unit in the game is trash. Circle aoe is bad, but it’s not like gon’s circle aoe. The SPA is similar to mythics and secrets at full upgrade, so what are you comparing this unit to?
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I don’t think Rengoku should be full AOE. But like, His 9th form “Rengoku” was literally his big massive fucking fire tornado, that AOE circle should definitely be bigger and MAYBE make the tornado a bit bigger too.
Yah he should have beeen full aoe. Like a charge with the dragon then a massive fire tornado
i feel like he shouldve been like evo cha or at least half aoe
@@TreatFruit11 I dunno, you can just place him at the start and set him to attack "closest" and he's gonna inflict the debuff on everything so I think it's alright
AND WHERES THE DRAGON AT TOO BRO
@@TreatFruit11 ya no not full aoe but something like cha in could work
Rahhhhh set your tiny task a blaze🔥🔥🔥
Lol
SET YOUR PC ABLAZE
@@DaKingKayden 🔥🔥
Imagine having to tiny task
@@ImagineBeingCxrsedimagine grinding Manually 🫵😂this game call anime macro for a reason
I see people keep talking about how he's doing double his damage and he has the most damage of any unit base, and I just gotta say that DMG is cool but Range and AOE is important as well. Like wow he does 20k Damage!... in this small little circle! Units are going walk past him like nothing man. Also go look at old AA rengoku and check out his animation, moves, and AOE. EVERY unit doesn't have to be full AOE, but if a unit that's supposed to be hard to get exists, they at least need a bigger circle IF they are going to be a circle attack. Sad to say, but old AA rengoku is just leagues better mechanic wise. These AV devs got a long way to go
Seems to me he was made to be a boss killer, which I have no problem with
@@Klextr000 i agree king
@@Klextr000 boss killers should have a large range so if that was the intent they goofed on that one.
@@gmcee053 at least we won’t have to hear about this game much longer with Reborn coming out next week or the week after.
@@RamzUchihaIf Something kills AV its not anime reborn
a secret doesn't have to be meta for everything, when things need to be used for burn such as rengoku he'd be the ideal choice to get rid of lets say "frost" enemies. This game shouldn't be power creep based, but instead a stratagy based one with each unit being used for specific things, that's why in BTD you have a diverse of units for situational occurentes.
im feeling the same way tbh, they branded themselves as the new AA but they just arent living up to it, tbh play AV made me realise even more how good AA was for its time
I feel u, but its only been upd 0.5, so hopefully just like AA, with given time, it ages like fine wine, rather than milk
bro when did u started playing anime adventures? AA did not got got released with everything it had, give the game time
@gaturrooficial2727 hopefully update 1 is actually good this update feelin like ad updates 😂
Frl tho, rengoku was a letdown in AA and hes aletdown here aswell, if anything it reminds me of how he got outdatedthe very next update in aa 😅@@gaturrooficial2727
Tripping this game has so much more than AA had when it released
Fun fact: his purg flames does NOT mean he is doing double his dmg as burn. He is doing 60% but also debuffing the enemies, so if other units with burn attack them their burn does 40% more. (His might do 40% more but 40% of 60% is actually 24% so he will be doing 84% of his dmg as burn, as long as a different rengoku already inflicted the enemy with purg flames)
(Also imo his effects were 100% slept on, in the anime he had a massive bolt of fire and huge tiger dragon thing for ninth form with like thunder effects, and in the game he just charges forward and creates a flame tornado)
Another complaint which i think aa did right was aoe. Most modern atd games secrets have a full aoe or a MASSIVE circle. Its not fun and unique, cus it turns the units into "whoever has higher dmg is better" which just isnt fun at all. I would like to see a lot more cones, lines, and less full aoe. Or maybe try something new with different aoe that no other game has, like an attack with multiple little circles or multiple cones or a line aoe that curves or a boomerang u shaped aoe. (Idk just a rant)
They shoulda gave rengoku a bunch of range and a medium sized line aoe, he can’t solo waves by himself because his aoe is too small and his spa is too low, but if he had a lot of range and a line aoe he would be a good unit to help defend in the early game so you can build up your full aoe units like tengen or Igris, currently it doesn’t really seem worth it to grind for him
His spa is too long you mean?
Hear me out… THANK GOD HE ISNT FULL AOE. Dude if they just make every secret full aoe it would get stain real quick and they would all be so similar, I’m happy to see they arnt doing tht
Yeah but if it isn’t full aoe it’s most likely to never be meta and a waste of time to grind for
Nah this is so true. Anime defenders made almost every meta unit full ape and it just made the game feel so boring. Especially in aa full aoe units werent to easy to come by pluse most meta units in aa werent even full aoe.
@@bluuthompson3359nah full ape units will always do less dmg than none full ape units or should 9/10 times pulse the passive is what makes or breaks units in this game
Fact: Rengoku isn't a Secret
@@AysNtarouthfr
People forget than AA took month to release an update, while AV worked on this update less than a week while also preparing bug fixed almost daily
there is so many things bugged smh. 2 weeks for a bugged update thats not even a full upd, it's 0.5 of an update...Last night I set up macro for inf to grind gems and woke up today with 0 gems because inf was bugged....These devs rlly need to get it together, we need a big code or something for this. List of current bugs ik about:
1. inf
2. story (fixed now)
3. you cant see how many spiderwebs u own even when u go to the npc
you can see the spiderwebs if you go to the shop its on the bottom right and you shouldnt be macroing anyway how is that their problem
@@duckyomobile sometimes you cant see the spiderwebs and macroing is allowed so shut your ass up
@@duckyomobile im saying seeing the spiderwebs was bugged in the shop itself
I mean it would be boring if every secret or grinding unit is full aoe
Like ad
At least a cone or line
You right gotta make a variety of aoes, having 10 full aoe meta units is a great way to sell your game 💀
i mean it's true but at the same time they coulda just gave him like a cone or atleast make the circle bigger, cause his AOE is not good at all
@@vextvy *cough* *cough* als *cough* *cough*
toad sounding a lil sick today
Cuz it’s not him
@@tiger8073Its a joke /:
chill voice❤😊
I havent watched toadboi since AA and i thought his voice changed 😭
if its all additive and they didnt include the damage extra, he does +100% fire damage, hes the meta dps and a crazy burn buffer, he just lacks in aoe, but you can get a aoe unit for that, hes an awesome unit
you know the videos great when its an ethereal showcase 🔥no hate to toadboi
They should've gave Rengoku a big line aoe. Like in the movie his 9th form is literally just charging forward
They did him dirty
Paring him with Obito would be crazy
I don't think rengoku should be full AOE.
Maybe Increase the Range and the Circule or change his SPA.
Just make It cone aoe
The sfx on rengoku look more like explosion than fire
they forgot about yorichi smh
Did they nerf igris because mine before deals 20k plus now its only 17k
They did nerf igris
@@_Zenki_ dang that sucks
they did but they removed the animation cd
does evolving get rid of traits bc i have monarch on my "song jinwu" and when i get "song jinwu (monarch)" i want to keep my trait
It does not
@@ToadBoiGaming thank you
@@harypogers5701 it do😯
so i guess you're just supposed to get rengoku to apply the effect on the boss right before they enter obito/saiyan vegeta range
They gotta rework the passives. Rengoku doesnt actually burn enemies in the anime. So if ur gonna add burn, make it feel right.
Passive 1- Set your heart a blaze: Rengoku gets a 2% damage buff every wave until he gets a 20% damage boost. When he does get the 20% damage boost, second passive activates.
Passive 2- Infernal Willpower: After ''Set your heart a blaze'' is activated, you deal 35% extra burn damage and rengoku gets a more intense fire aura.
Passive 3- Purgatory Flames: After ''Set your heart a blaze'' is activated, attacking an already burning enemy will apply ''Purgatory flames'' that will deal 2% of rengoku's attack damage every second until the enemy dies. (The fire never extinguishes)
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Attack AOE size buff and it will be a good secret unit
You're talking like vegeta actually does more damage to his enemies if they're alone, or Naruto became quicker while he was not attacking lol
@@gustavogodoy5651 i mean those characters dont have anything to do with rengoku being the shittiest secret unit in the game
so you just wanna give him a passive that's essentially a one shot but overtime? that's the dumbest idea ever
@@batukarabulut7743 first of all, hes not even a secret hes an exclusive, and comparing him to both alucard and igris, he straight up deals more damage with the burn and his passives, hes just not full aoe. Also the passives you suggested are just stupid ngl.
2% is nothing that’s like 200 dmg a second
RAHHHHHHH MY MACRO IS BURNING 🔥🔥🔥
Mid only cuz of circle they should have made it cone
I cleared act 1 two times why does the game say I didn't unlock act 2 yet!?
Same here
I’m still trying to get igris only 100 runs in none yet
But now I gotta go fr this first cuz he might leave in a few updates
Who better, akaza or tengen?
Wait is it only me or raids are bugged i cant proceed to the next act
Yeah its bugged
He shouldve got a line+circle aoe at the end just like akaza got a new type of aoe
SO lucky I got him 1st try now only need alucard to finish collection
How many equip on the map?
Anime defenders is leagues above anime vanguards in champion abilities and effects ngl
Set my computer ablaze cuz I ain't getting him anytime soon
update is nice but not sure it was worth like 2-3 weeks worth of waiting
For *ME* , the game needs more ways to farm trait rerolls, in order for it to be perfect
The game just came out, so we can't expect everything we want so early. But i get what you mean. We just gotta deal with it for now.
ngl the raid shop actually viable for trait rerolls
They just made raid shop, Igris raid shop, new achievements and the last 10 or more rows of the bp is ALL REROLLS, y’all just need to put in the work to get them, I don’t have the bp completed or all achievements but Ik I can get them done with a bit of work stop complaining.🤷🏾♂️(can’t macro never have been able too)
@@zx._art079 That is true. Atleast we can farm something until next update, so that's good.
@@late8gaming787 Im not really complaining. I can grind the rrs just fine this update, i would just like there to be a mode in the future. That's all really.
The scholar curse is real 🔥🔥
I think he shouldve been small line big circle in one and a lower spa
Can someone recommend me units to solo raids act 4? I use sung jin woo evolved, crocodile, naruto evolved and the epic unit to farm
idk why they made it a circle it shouldve been a cone
i literally just watched the first showcase and this popped up
😂♥️
Gonna be grinding for him
whats the difference between a secret and an exclusive
exclusive just means you wo nt beable to get the unit after the update
it does do burn, just that Rengoku kills them too fast to see the burn effect
I just dont like his animations, they really dropped the ball on this one, his damage is ok, but his AOE is absolutely horrendous for an exclusive unit, sasuke with monarch does 72k+ DMG and up on every hit after the first one because his passive actually works in a way where if a unit was inflicted with stun he then deals 50% extra DMG to it even if the enemy is no longer stunned (observation i made) and then the stacking DMG increase on repeat attacks and hes cheaper than rengoku to max so sasuke is a better boss killer than he is lmao, even their AOE circle and SPA is roughly the same, and with sasuke you get the added stun effect on top of that. If rengoku is meta because of this, so is sasuke, and nobody thinks sasuke is meta. You can argue the burn DMG increase makes him with obito meta, but you can just bring sasuke and an igris for bosses instead. Idk, maybe in the future he'll be better with better fire units. This update is a massive flop and literally only tengen is worth investing in for another full AOE dps unit who btw now deals the same dps as igris does with full passives which is ridiculous, why did they nerf igris to be as strong or weaker than a mythic, hes a secret for god sake.
Tengen is basically the best unit out of 3 for this update since he has full aoe and easier to get from banner.
Rengoku is better he is doing double his DMG soo uhh yea
@@RobloxianBalIerfull aoe stomps rengoku sorry bud
@@csjjk2271 so a full aoe unit that does 12k at max is better than a unit that does 23k at max?
@@csjjk2271 L ass fucking take
full aoe isnt stomping 60% burn dmg which buff his own dmg 💀and out dpsing him by 2x, get igris if u want a full aoe that bad
@@RobloxianBalIeryes its clear of a circle aoe and he does bleed
how do you get higghher than lvl 50?
@@_squirrel2660 I'm pretty sure there's no level cap ;)
10K no passive apard to the other 2 igris does like 13k full aoe and hes a circle aoe no trait evo lvl 50 should do like 20k i feal like a small circle should not be that bad bruh 🙏
Wullahi ur cooked bro 😭, he does 90% fire damage so his damage is effectively 20k
@@alexgordo5435 Let's be real, igris does full aoe 45 range 25k damage with stun immunity + x1.4 dmg to bosses when buffed by sjw, which also does like 20k dmg each + summons, rengoku is really not needed
@@Octalion they nerfed igris hard. he only does like 15k at max rank (not including sjw). With sjw I think he can get up to 19k with no damage trait. I agree he's still a lot better than rengoku but it's not as crazy as you're making it sound.
@@nestyyz1320 he fr said SET UR LOW AOE CIRCLE ABLAZE i mean if its rly low cd maybe
They could’ve made it a bigger circle atleast tbh
why i cant play past act 1 the game wont let me
Server issue
It was a bug it should be fixed now they announced it in the discord
But does he burn?
Tf this ain’t toad who dis?
why your voice is different now ?
Because its a different guy
wish I had tiny task but I have a mac
it should be cone aoe or smth
your voice changed, its not toadboigaming.
It's my friend Ethereal lol 😂
BRO HOW ACT 4 IS BUGGED
The VFX are lackluster and disappointing, and Rengoku’s AOE is pretty small for what’s shown.
Yeah the effects are cool but they shouldve made it bigger, it wouldve looked cooler
especially for the ninth form :/
bigger effect and bigger circle wouldve been perfect :/
Wtf happen to ur voice its not the same as u were doing afs video
bruh
already?
Its only fast to evo yall units cause you guys just constantly playing, it takes me quite awhile to evo mines 😭
Yo bro you feeling good? You sound so sad bro
Meta is a joke. Rengoku was done poorly and it's a fact. How is an exclusive unit somehow only top four in DPS? And the game only has a few units so top four is pretty bad.
Burn units are just really useful for now
@@ToadBoiGaming only useful against shields... which Sasuke rare deals with 😭
First
aight no at this point how do you grind that fast to get every single new unit evolved the update just came out bruh chill
Attacks are pretty lack luster I would have to agree
W
ur math isnt right he only have 84% burn damage
bro u are W friend
I'd rather grind for igros ngl
remove the cloak then the cosmetic will look good
W ethereal
Im the 1k like
Set your bank account ablaze
pls reply im a big fan
@@jamarie9341 chill bro youre glazing 😂😂😭
@@BaCoN-0102 😂😂
Tengens full aoe makes him stronger than Rengoku ngl
Tengen is only good for multiple enemys , rengoku do 100% of his dmg in burn
time for anime reborn
rengoku aint worth allat 😭😭🙏🙏🗣🗣❗❗
He doing double his dmg so the rengoku in this imvid is doing 23k soo yea he is meta lol
@@RobloxianBalIer that circle aoe is shit, the devs never upgrade the circle aoes, if you thinking thats gonna help in the igris boss, then you’re delliusional because you literally need igris or tegen
@@RobloxianBalIerthat tiny circle aint gonna do nothing guess hes a support/boss killer
@@minicraft09 Did you watch the video, 7 enemies where able to fit on his aoe that's not small at all and he has. Massive multi hit if you think that only full aoe units can be used to beat the boss rush then that's a skill issue because it's possible without full aoe
Expensive unit
Ethereal on top do you have a channel ?
yes i do :)
@@EtherealBroly aight I tried to find your channel but couldn’t find it
Gyatt 100% burn on upgrade(11)
yall complaining but its literally the first updt and not even a full one its only 0.5
Need a buff
You do know that he is doing double I'm his DMG right?
@@RobloxianBalIer yes and no the burn no stacks and 20k for 6.5s id mid bro
@@LuisLacy-gr2mnNo other unit does more damage than that with zero damage buffs from traits. If that’s mid, every single unit in the game is trash. Circle aoe is bad, but it’s not like gon’s circle aoe. The SPA is similar to mythics and secrets at full upgrade, so what are you comparing this unit to?
@@namdo7451honestly id still use obito over rengoku
@@unifart4528 its better to pair them
Are you okay toad? You sound sick take a break if you need to
Because it’s not toad watch the video bro
It’s his friends bro. He said it in the video. Watch the video before commenting
@@tiger8073Dude its obviously a joke 🤣
They need hire new profesional visual effect artist bruh, i mean the effect is mid nothing special tbh.
YO I GOT IRGIS ON MY 44TH TRY
Ayyt congratulations it's not that good now, it got like 20% decrease in damage
Igris is still meta?@@jackweng4868
tengen is so much better than this exclusive 1% bruhhh
I cant go to the next act
Bro are you insane getting essences is not easy if next update is the game make hard i will curse you
who is this imposter
what u mean? thats toadboi
evo akaza and tengen
mf got no energy in this video
Bro did not watch the video
@@zyliack6778 trash video anyways 😭😭😂
mid units disapointment
they nerfed igris, L update👍
Personally i think this update was kind of bad and im disappointed
shoulda had cone