Of course the Bogie version is GREAT. However the Jum Belushi version was a VERY hood additional look at this classic tale. I have BOTH in my dvd collection...
Recently watched the Bogart version and glad to here you liked it. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Bogarts plays a tough guy who let's a softer side leak through like no other.
The book 'Brazen Chariots' by Major Robert Crisp was written from battle experiences before El Alamein. The level of confusion among the participants make 'Sahara' quite believable.
As I understand it: Because of the vague ending of the movie Wake Island, many people in the United States assumed that the Marines on Wake Island had been killed to the last man. Like in the Alamo. Wake Island was called the Alamo of the Pacific.
What a good movie. I have it on VHS....somewhere. Tora, Tora, Tora. Midway (70's). A Bridge Too Far. Battle of Britain. The Longest Day. In Harm's Way. Das Boot. I come across them on TV, I'm watching...
@@frankpinmtl. MY “GERMAN” AMERICAN HUSBAND WATCHED “DAS BOOT” IN A PITTSBURGH THEATER IN THE ORIGINAL GERMAN LANGUAGE (HOCH DEUTSCH, OF COURSE) WITH A “REAL” GERMAN FRIEND & BOTH WERE STUNNED THAT DURING THE BEGINNING SCENE OF BEDLAM IN THE OFFICERS CLUB, KAP-LEU THOMPSEN …… WHILE BEING DRAGGED OUT OF THE MEN’S ROOM WHERE HE HAD JUST THROWN UP…… SAID “IN PLAIN ENGLISH” …… THAT HE WAS “IN NO CONDITION TO F++K” ……!!! MY HUSBAND WAS SO STARTLED, HE IMMEDIATELY TURNED TO HIS FRIEND AND ASKED HIM (IN GERMAN) IF HE HAD ACTUALLY HEARD THAT LINE CORRECTLY OR IF HIS MIND WAS PLAYING TRICKS ON HIM. HIS IRISH GRANDFATHER MARRIED HIS BAVARIAN GRANDMOTHER WHEN THEY MET IN PITTSBURGH JUST BEFORE THE FIRST WORLD WAR, SO HIS DAD UNDERSTOOD GAELIC AND COULD SPEAK ENOUGH TO GET BY AND SPOKE FLUENT BOTH HIGH GERMAN & BAVARIAN GERMAN WITH ONE BROTHER AND TWO SISTERS GROWING UP. BECAME AN ARMY-AIR FORCE INTERROGATOR IN 1944 FOR GERMAN AIR FORCE POW’s, ONE YEAR AFTER HIS B-25 WAS BLOWN APART BY GERMAN 88 mm FLAK OVER NORTH AFRICA IN FEBRUARY 1943 (HE WAS A GUNNER WITH TWO ITALIAN & ONE GERMAN VICTORY), SPENT A YEAR RECOUPING FROM A BROKEN SPINE AFTER THE CRASH & TRANSFERRED TO EGLIN ARMY-AIR FORCE BASE, FLORIDA, WHERE MY HUSBAND WAS BORN LATE OCTOBER, 1945. HIS MOTHER’S PARENTS WERE “GERMAN” BORN AS FIRST GENERATION AMERICANS ….. PITTSBURGH ….. WHO SPOKE GERMAN……AND MY HUSBAND’S FIRST WORDS WERE IN GERMAN!!! HE SERVED TWO VOLUNTARY ARMY OCS LIEUTENANT COMBAT TOURS IN VIETNAM ….. 1967-1969 …… INCLUDING THE TET OFFENSIVE ….. AND WAS SERIOUSLY WOUNDED 💜 IN HIS LUMBAR SPINE DURING HIS SECOND COMBAT TOUR IN JULY 1968. IT WAS SO SERIOUS THAT AFTER TWO BUCK DEER JUMPED IN FRONT OF HIS COMPANY VEHICLE DURING RUTTING SEASON IN NOVEMBER 1989, FLIPPING IT OVER TWICE, HIS SPINE WAS RE-INJURED & THE PAIN SO TERRIBLE THAT HE DOES NOT REMEMBER CHRISTMAS OF 1989! AFTER ENDURING CHRONIC SPINAL PAIN EVERY DAY SINCE HIS BEING WOUNDED IN VIETNAM, HE DROPPED INTO A DEEP, BLACK, HOLE 🕳️ OF DEPRESSION WITH NIGHTMARES & NUMEROUS HOSPITALIZATIONS FOR BOTH PHYSICAL & MENTAL PAIN THAT BEGAN IN MID-1990 AND FINALLY RELEASED ITS DEATH GRIP LATE IN 1993. TODAY, HE TAKES MOUNTAINS ⛰️ 😅OF PAIN, BLOOD PRESSURE, SKIN, FEET, LIVER, KIDNEY PILLS……REPEATED SURGERIES (INCLUDING BOTH KNEES, LEFT EYE WAS PIERCED BY GLASS FROM CHEAP ARMY “GLASS” GLASSES, LEFT HEARING AS-WELL-AS BALANCE THROWN OFF, MOST OF HIS INTESTINES FROM SURGERIES IN 2012…..THEN 2022…..NECK BROKEN - TWICE WHEN HE LOST BALANCE & FELL DOWN NINETEEN (19) CONCRETE FRONT STEPS IN THE STREET…..& FIFTEEN (15) STEPS DOWN ONTO CONCRETE CELLER FLOOR!!! AND, OF COURSE,THE V.A. “WITCH DOCTORS” HAVE AGGRAVATED HIM HIM ASKING FOR NARCOTICS MEDS TO “EASE” HIS FIFTY FIVE (55) YEARS OF PAIN!!! BUT MAKE SURE THE FIRST THREE (3) TRIPS 🚘 OF TRAVEL PAY ARE STOLEN EVERY MONTH! EVERY MONTH!!! THOSE DONATIONS ALL FOR FUEL ⛽️ & BOOZE 🥃 IN THE EIGHT (8) YEARS OF “””FREE AIR FORCE PASSENGER JET PLANE WITH FULLY STOCKED BOOZE 🥃 🥃🧉🍹🍾🍸🥂🍻🍺🍻🥃🥃 KENYA BORN RADAR EARS👂 OVOMIT 🤮 & FOUR YEARS OF -- 19.9% INFLATION -- BY DEMENTIA JOE 😵💫😵💫😵💫& CHILLY 🥶 JILLY & KLAMIDIA 🧌 😈 HARRISBONG 💨 🚬 🚬 🎉🚬 ……. AND STOLEN VALOR 💛 COWARD “UNDER-SGT” 🩲 TAMPON 🎱🎱🎱 TIMBERLY WALTZER 💃 🪩 🕺-- SNITCH ONYOUR NEIGHBOR & WIN A PRIZE - THEIR SCALP 🧌 ON A FLAG POLE IN YOUR NAZI- KGB 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️ FRONT SEWER 💩 YARD!!! RED FLAG. 🚩🚩🚩 LAWS……HEIL HITLER!! 🚩🚩🚩. MAKE YOUR KIDS PROUD OF YOU - YOUR KIDS THAT YOU DON’T 🔪 🔪 🔪 SLAUGHTER FOR MURDER 🖤 🖤 🖤 INC KILLERY CLIT TO 👅 EAT!! 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 19.9% INFLATION!!! 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 HE TOLD ME YEARS LATER THAT HE DID NOT THINK PTSD WAS “REAL” ……. AND “BELIEVED” THE GOVERNMENT LIES THAT THE AGENT ORANGE WAS “ SAFE” ENEN WHEN IT HAD ACTUALLY “SOAKED” HIS UNIFORMS TWICE DURING INFANTRY PATROLS AND FELL LIKE RAIN” ON HIM & HIS “KID” SOLDIERS AS THEY WALKED/RAN “UNDER CANOPY COVER” HE WAS LEADING AS THE PLANES FLEW “V” FORMATION RIGHT OVER HIS UNITS …… DURING BOTH TOURS!
So, as a kid, I grew up with this movie. So, for most, this is where their connection to this story ends. For me, I have an additional connection to this movie/story. I grew up in Northern Virginia, and nearby was a private tank museum. They have both a M3 Lee and Grant tanks. Now, the original unit used Grant tanks, vs. the Lee tank as seen in the movie. The only difference really in the tanks is the turret, the Grant, the radio is placed in the back of the turret, Lee tank the Radio is in the hall, with an additonal MG turret for the commander. In the film, the inside shots are done in a Lee, not a set. I got a chance over the years to crew the museums M3Leee tank with my dad. We had a chance to climb all over the museums Lee tank and ride in it. We would take a piece of Chalk and write Lulubelle on the sides. I've told this story many times you have said here, and you said it very well. On a side note, the commanders turret with the 1919, looks cool but its a pain, just to get in and out. Its crazy to think 7 guys were cramed in that thing. One final PS. I came home from a deployment in 2023. My oldest wanted to go to the tank farm. She dressed as a soviet tanker, given the soviets used them as well. It was the first tank she climed in. The M3 Lee will always be a special tank in my heart.
Haven’t seen the Belushi version although I’d like to. Have seen the original one though and thoroughly enjoyed it partly because I’m a huge Bogart fan! Interesting point you made about wartime movies covering actual events. On RUclips is the movie Wing And A Prayer about the Battle of Midway. Carriers and squadrons are not mentioned by name and the producers admit that they have fictionalised events for security reasons. In their own right because of these reasons these movies are little pieces of history.
If you're like me, you'll be thinking "Yeah, but Bogey..." while watching the Belushi remake. Perhaps even more than Bogey, the difference in the supporting cast is like black and white. Angelo D'Angelo is no J. Carrol Naish. The same for Robert Wisdom compared to Rex Ingram.
bogarts version one of my favorite of all time along with battleground.... belushis version was ok but they cut the italian sililoquy just loses something
And yet, any Call of Duty commando can tell you American tanks were inferior to German tanks. Both films are very good, and thought '95 was exceptional for a late after original remake. There was also "Last of the Comanches" 1953, a western version of the story, with Broderick Crawford in the lead role, that had Lloyd Bridges in it also.
I like this post Sir, you are off on a tangent, thats the way my brain works. Where can I see the two Sahara films. (Are you USA or UK based W+T), like and subscribed !
One of my favourite 2nd World War movies. Also a fave Bogey movie. I also enjoyed the Jim Belushi remake. Certainly, not the original but, IMHO, a good 2nd try.
I have not seen the Jim Belushi remake, but I will if I get the opportunity. I generally do not care for remakes i.e. "All Quiet on the Western Front" "Red Badge of Courage" "True Grit" were all best the first time.
Sahara is a great film as it shows just a small unit and it's struggle to survive.
Of course the Bogie version is GREAT.
However the Jum Belushi version was a VERY hood additional look at this classic tale.
I have BOTH in my dvd collection...
Bogart wonderfully underplayed his part. When asked how he captured all those enemy troops he just mutters, “Oh, they just walked in.”
Good movie, one of my favorites also...
Recently watched the Bogart version and glad to here you liked it. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Bogarts plays a tough guy who let's a softer side leak through like no other.
I grew up with the Bogart version, so I shall continue with it. Thanks again W&T. Take care, keep safe.
Thanks, you too!
I prefer the Bogart version.
The book 'Brazen Chariots' by Major Robert Crisp was written from battle experiences before El Alamein. The level of confusion among the participants make 'Sahara' quite believable.
australian tank museum has quite a few on display. in all conditions up to a full restoration
As I understand it: Because of the vague ending of the movie Wake Island, many people in the United States assumed that the Marines on Wake Island had been killed to the last man. Like in the Alamo. Wake Island was called the Alamo of the Pacific.
Very true.
Bogy all the way!
What a good movie. I have it on VHS....somewhere. Tora, Tora, Tora. Midway (70's). A Bridge Too Far. Battle of Britain. The Longest Day. In Harm's Way. Das Boot. I come across them on TV, I'm watching...
Love them all
@@War_And_Truth Sh!t - I forgot The Great Escape. James Coburn playing an Aussie....lol
@@frankpinmtl. MY “GERMAN” AMERICAN HUSBAND WATCHED “DAS BOOT” IN A PITTSBURGH THEATER IN THE ORIGINAL GERMAN LANGUAGE (HOCH DEUTSCH, OF COURSE) WITH A “REAL” GERMAN FRIEND & BOTH WERE STUNNED THAT DURING THE BEGINNING SCENE OF BEDLAM IN THE OFFICERS CLUB, KAP-LEU THOMPSEN …… WHILE BEING DRAGGED OUT OF THE MEN’S ROOM WHERE HE HAD JUST THROWN UP…… SAID “IN PLAIN ENGLISH” …… THAT HE WAS “IN NO CONDITION TO F++K” ……!!!
MY HUSBAND WAS SO STARTLED, HE IMMEDIATELY TURNED TO HIS FRIEND AND ASKED HIM (IN GERMAN) IF HE HAD ACTUALLY HEARD THAT LINE CORRECTLY OR IF HIS MIND WAS PLAYING TRICKS ON HIM. HIS IRISH GRANDFATHER MARRIED HIS BAVARIAN GRANDMOTHER WHEN THEY MET IN PITTSBURGH JUST BEFORE THE FIRST WORLD WAR, SO HIS DAD UNDERSTOOD GAELIC AND COULD SPEAK ENOUGH TO GET BY AND SPOKE FLUENT BOTH HIGH GERMAN & BAVARIAN GERMAN WITH ONE BROTHER AND TWO SISTERS GROWING UP. BECAME AN ARMY-AIR FORCE INTERROGATOR IN 1944 FOR GERMAN AIR FORCE POW’s, ONE YEAR AFTER HIS B-25 WAS BLOWN APART BY GERMAN 88 mm FLAK OVER NORTH AFRICA IN FEBRUARY 1943 (HE WAS A GUNNER WITH TWO ITALIAN & ONE GERMAN VICTORY), SPENT A YEAR RECOUPING FROM A BROKEN SPINE AFTER THE CRASH & TRANSFERRED TO EGLIN ARMY-AIR FORCE BASE, FLORIDA, WHERE MY HUSBAND WAS BORN LATE OCTOBER, 1945. HIS MOTHER’S PARENTS WERE “GERMAN” BORN AS FIRST GENERATION AMERICANS ….. PITTSBURGH ….. WHO SPOKE GERMAN……AND MY HUSBAND’S FIRST WORDS WERE IN GERMAN!!!
HE SERVED TWO VOLUNTARY ARMY OCS LIEUTENANT COMBAT TOURS IN VIETNAM ….. 1967-1969 …… INCLUDING THE TET OFFENSIVE ….. AND WAS SERIOUSLY WOUNDED 💜 IN HIS LUMBAR SPINE DURING HIS SECOND COMBAT TOUR IN JULY 1968. IT WAS SO SERIOUS THAT AFTER TWO BUCK DEER JUMPED IN FRONT OF HIS COMPANY VEHICLE DURING RUTTING SEASON IN NOVEMBER 1989, FLIPPING IT OVER TWICE, HIS SPINE WAS RE-INJURED & THE PAIN SO TERRIBLE THAT HE DOES NOT REMEMBER CHRISTMAS OF 1989! AFTER ENDURING CHRONIC SPINAL PAIN EVERY DAY SINCE HIS BEING WOUNDED IN VIETNAM, HE DROPPED INTO A DEEP, BLACK, HOLE 🕳️ OF DEPRESSION WITH NIGHTMARES & NUMEROUS HOSPITALIZATIONS FOR BOTH PHYSICAL & MENTAL PAIN THAT BEGAN IN MID-1990 AND FINALLY RELEASED ITS DEATH GRIP LATE IN 1993. TODAY, HE TAKES MOUNTAINS ⛰️ 😅OF PAIN, BLOOD PRESSURE, SKIN, FEET, LIVER, KIDNEY PILLS……REPEATED SURGERIES (INCLUDING BOTH KNEES, LEFT EYE WAS PIERCED BY GLASS FROM CHEAP ARMY “GLASS” GLASSES, LEFT HEARING AS-WELL-AS BALANCE THROWN OFF, MOST OF HIS INTESTINES FROM SURGERIES IN 2012…..THEN 2022…..NECK BROKEN - TWICE WHEN HE LOST BALANCE & FELL DOWN NINETEEN (19) CONCRETE FRONT STEPS IN THE STREET…..& FIFTEEN (15) STEPS DOWN ONTO CONCRETE CELLER FLOOR!!!
AND, OF COURSE,THE V.A. “WITCH DOCTORS” HAVE AGGRAVATED HIM HIM ASKING FOR NARCOTICS MEDS TO “EASE” HIS FIFTY FIVE (55) YEARS OF PAIN!!! BUT MAKE SURE THE FIRST THREE (3) TRIPS 🚘 OF TRAVEL PAY ARE STOLEN EVERY MONTH! EVERY MONTH!!! THOSE DONATIONS ALL FOR FUEL ⛽️ & BOOZE 🥃 IN THE EIGHT (8) YEARS OF “””FREE AIR FORCE PASSENGER JET PLANE WITH FULLY STOCKED BOOZE 🥃 🥃🧉🍹🍾🍸🥂🍻🍺🍻🥃🥃 KENYA BORN RADAR EARS👂 OVOMIT 🤮 & FOUR YEARS OF -- 19.9% INFLATION -- BY DEMENTIA JOE 😵💫😵💫😵💫& CHILLY 🥶 JILLY & KLAMIDIA 🧌 😈 HARRISBONG 💨 🚬 🚬 🎉🚬 ……. AND STOLEN VALOR 💛 COWARD “UNDER-SGT” 🩲 TAMPON 🎱🎱🎱 TIMBERLY WALTZER 💃 🪩 🕺-- SNITCH ONYOUR NEIGHBOR & WIN A PRIZE - THEIR SCALP 🧌 ON A FLAG POLE IN YOUR NAZI- KGB 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️ FRONT SEWER 💩 YARD!!! RED FLAG. 🚩🚩🚩 LAWS……HEIL HITLER!! 🚩🚩🚩. MAKE YOUR KIDS PROUD OF YOU - YOUR KIDS THAT YOU DON’T 🔪 🔪 🔪 SLAUGHTER FOR MURDER 🖤 🖤 🖤 INC KILLERY CLIT TO 👅 EAT!! 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
19.9% INFLATION!!! 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
HE TOLD ME YEARS LATER THAT HE DID NOT THINK PTSD WAS “REAL” ……. AND “BELIEVED” THE GOVERNMENT LIES THAT THE AGENT ORANGE WAS “ SAFE” ENEN WHEN IT HAD ACTUALLY “SOAKED” HIS UNIFORMS TWICE DURING INFANTRY PATROLS AND FELL LIKE RAIN” ON HIM & HIS “KID” SOLDIERS AS THEY WALKED/RAN “UNDER CANOPY COVER” HE WAS LEADING AS THE PLANES FLEW “V” FORMATION RIGHT OVER HIS UNITS …… DURING BOTH TOURS!
The original is a classic, yes a bit over the top in Propaganda but many movies made during the war are. Hade no idea a new version was made.
So, as a kid, I grew up with this movie. So, for most, this is where their connection to this story ends. For me, I have an additional connection to this movie/story. I grew up in Northern Virginia, and nearby was a private tank museum. They have both a M3 Lee and Grant tanks. Now, the original unit used Grant tanks, vs. the Lee tank as seen in the movie. The only difference really in the tanks is the turret, the Grant, the radio is placed in the back of the turret, Lee tank the Radio is in the hall, with an additonal MG turret for the commander. In the film, the inside shots are done in a Lee, not a set.
I got a chance over the years to crew the museums M3Leee tank with my dad. We had a chance to climb all over the museums Lee tank and ride in it. We would take a piece of Chalk and write Lulubelle on the sides. I've told this story many times you have said here, and you said it very well. On a side note, the commanders turret with the 1919, looks cool but its a pain, just to get in and out. Its crazy to think 7 guys were cramed in that thing.
One final PS. I came home from a deployment in 2023. My oldest wanted to go to the tank farm. She dressed as a soviet tanker, given the soviets used them as well. It was the first tank she climed in. The M3 Lee will always be a special tank in my heart.
The main difference between the M3 Grant (UK) and M3 Lee (US) was the British had a better commander's cupola above the 37mm gun.
Haven’t seen the Belushi version although I’d like to. Have seen the original one though and thoroughly enjoyed it partly because I’m a huge Bogart fan!
Interesting point you made about wartime movies covering actual events. On RUclips is the movie Wing And A Prayer about the Battle of Midway. Carriers and squadrons are not mentioned by name and the producers admit that they have fictionalised events for security reasons. In their own right because of these reasons these movies are little pieces of history.
If you're like me, you'll be thinking "Yeah, but Bogey..." while watching the Belushi remake. Perhaps even more than Bogey, the difference in the supporting cast is like black and white. Angelo D'Angelo is no J. Carrol Naish. The same for Robert Wisdom compared to Rex Ingram.
0:15 many argue that fighting in North Africa started with the Italian invasion of Eritrea, Ethiopia and Somalialand in 1936.
I enjoyed both versions of Sahara! In fact Jim Belushi portrayed his role well!
The original is my favorite, but the remake was pretty good, too.
bogarts version one of my favorite of all time along with battleground.... belushis version was ok but they cut the italian sililoquy just loses something
This was remade as a western, Last of the Comanches (1953). A Calvary unit is besieged at a deserted mission with a well that has very little water.
Ill have to watch that, thanks for the info.
The Bogart version is grittier, more believable. The Belushi version is almost cartoonish.
And yet, any Call of Duty commando can tell you American tanks were inferior to German tanks.
Both films are very good, and thought '95 was exceptional for a late after original remake.
There was also "Last of the Comanches" 1953, a western version of the story, with Broderick Crawford in the lead role, that had Lloyd Bridges in it also.
I like this post Sir, you are off on a tangent, thats the way my brain works. Where can I see the two Sahara films. (Are you USA or UK based W+T), like and subscribed !
I'm in Australia. You would probably need to buy the dvd's as I dont ever see them on streaming.
@@War_And_Truth Amazon Prime channel usually has all the really old war movies, I will have to look.
Thanks OZ. Oi Oi Oi !
Even if details were available, Hollywood would still have messed it up.
One of my favourite 2nd World War movies. Also a fave Bogey movie. I also enjoyed the Jim Belushi remake. Certainly, not the original but, IMHO, a good 2nd try.
I have not seen the Jim Belushi remake, but I will if I get the opportunity. I generally do not care for remakes i.e. "All Quiet on the Western Front" "Red Badge of Courage" "True Grit" were all best the first time.
The remake is entertaining but it doesn't hold a candle to the original.
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