Really really appreciated the shout out (I had no idea he'd do that) and love how you guys all unanimously sent your thanks - hopefully keep this man and his PC sweet from now on :)
It's not a swedish machinegun, btw. It's a finnish copy of a WW1 FN Browning 13.2 mm MG (the one used on early Swedish planes), with its caliber changed to 12.7 by the Finns. That's why it has different ammo as well, because the Finns made their own special ammo. EDIT: Fun fact is also that the FN Browning 13.2 was based on the M2 in the first place, so the Finns basically took a gun that was based on the M2 and then converted it back to an M2. In essence.
One thing I always see goes unmentioned, that is LeLv 24 (air squadron 24) insignia on the nose, and most aces in ww2 from Finland served there some time, being the most know squadron.
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One factor WT has modelled but seemingly not mentioned is that FN Browning 13.2 and 12.7s had almost twice the rate of fire of their American originators.
Its far from worst, when it comes to Finnish service where it fought other planes that were as old as it was. It had issues in pacific when it had to fight much more advanced aircraft, but finns used to flythem till 1944 and most of the Finnish aces, including Ilmari Juutilainen, the non-german ace with most aircraft shot down with 96 confirmed air victories and 126 claimed flew Brewster designated BW-264 up untill 43. It was great aircraft against its soviet counterparts, and could hold its own against even some of the newer planes soviets fielded like LaGG's and early Yak's.
@@martijn9568 the finnish brewsters were outfitted with different engines than the US ones and were significantly lighter, could've had something to do with the final reliability
This became my new go to plane all the way up 6.7 it fly's rings around all those F4U and BF109k that are dumb enuff to dogfight,even downed a few early jets with it
Its not a Buffalo. Its the Flying ale barrel. Just started playing WT after long break when heard there is finally Finn tech tree (portion). I love the thing on ARB especially cause I finally learned basic BFM flying some DCS meanwhile. Btw. This content is absolutely life-saving for my long parential leave. You are not just filling the cap of someone missing. I hope your channel grows to reward your time investment.
As many problems as I have with this game I have to admit they've nailed the new Cannon sound effects. Not to mention the new explosion effects on the tanks look awesome. Well done Gaijin🤯
@@Project_1143M FF/Ms at least kill what they hit, the FFs are just kinda crap lol. You do have to get very close, I guess that's where the tradeoff is.
Great vid and good-on-you for giving Sam a shoutout for being such a great PC repairman. I WISH we had him here in The States, or somebody with that much dedication.
Thanks David, was a great experience for me to meet someone who makes their living on RUclips, and really pleased I could get him back in the fight. Love that he spent time with my eldest to teach him the black art of War Thunder too. Top bloke!
Technically both the Finnish and Swedish .50 cals are copied from the Belgian FN Browning M2 .50 cal chambered either in American .50 cal or Hotchkiss 13,2 for Sweden early on.
There is actually a pretty crazy wartime story behind the 12,7mm in that plane. They are not Swedish but originally FN-made and improved copies of Browning M2 that Finns got the maintenance drawing from Swedes after failing to purchase them and made their own copy based on those :D
Apparently the LKk/42 is actually not directly copied or even derived from Browning M2 .50-cal, it's more of a cousin to the M2 if that makes sense. The lineage of this gun starts from Browning M1921 machine gun, which was a water-cooled .50-cal. Fabrique Nationale de Herstal (i.e. FN) licensed the M1921 and then developed this gun into something called Mitrailleuse D'Avion Browning-FN Calibre 13.2 mm. This air-cooled gun intended for aircraft use was chambered in 13.2x99mm. Sweden acquired a small amount of these machine guns, and then reverse engineered the manufacturing blueprints out of maintenance charts that came with the purchased guns. After that, LM Ericson started manufacturing this rifle with the name Akan m/39A. Finland and the VKT (Valtion Kivääritehdas, or National Rifle Factory) got access to the blueprints reverse-engineereed in Sweden, and started producing the LKk/42 (Lentokonekonekivääri 42, or Aircraft Machine Gun 42), chambered in the .50 BMG (12.7x99mm) cartridge. The reason why Finnish Air Force wanted the gun chambered to .50 BMG was related to logistics. The Brewsters, for example, were originally armed with Colt MG 53-2 as their heavy machine guns, these being M2 machine guns produced by Colt. But Finland did not have the license to produce more of these guns, so there was a need to start replacing them - but they wanted the new gun to use interchangeable ammo, hence the decision to chamber the LKk/42 in 12.7x99mm (or .50 BMG). John Moses Browning of course continued developing the machine gun and eventually this led to the M2 Browning in 1933, but the M1921 was the last "common ancestor" for both the M2, and the Swedish Akan m/39A or Finnish LKk/42.
My best game with the SAV was 14 kills, without death, on "Aral sea" map. I even sent the replay to the "Thunder Show" but i guess it wasn't good enough, or was too long.
It's nice of you to show us these low tier vehicles now that there's only like 1-2 days a year where we can play them, since we have to be Rank 3+ all the time otherwise due to events that are CONSTANTLY running on WT nowadays...
In service from 1941 to 1945, B-239s of Lentolaivue 24 (Fighter Squadron 24) claimed 477 Soviet Air Force warplanes destroyed, with the combat loss of just 19 B-239s, an outstanding victory ratio of 26:1.
I just tried this thing in air RB and it's absolutely awesome. Great firepower and brilliant maneuverability. Most importantly, it's insanely fun. Thanks Odd for reminding me just how brilliant this little thing is. Looks like a baby P47, but turns like a Zero.
Imagine my face when I had the same smart Idea as many others here to finally start the swedish three and bought that Strv M/41, which oneshotted me my whole literal War Thunder life.... and my first shell I shot into that Sd.Kfz.234/2 bounced clean off. 🦨
Imagine if we got those hungarian and romanian(and some even say italians used it too) Gebauer motor driven twin heavy machine guns? Even if it was italian ie short Vickers .50, it's still like a mutant child of MG-131 and ShKAS... or downsized GSh-23...
Must admit I’ve always had a soft spot for the buffalo and especially the wildcat. Have to say though that when it comes to 50cals I much prefer the F82 and it’s freedom laser.
Me and a few friends pub stomp in Thatch's Buffalo which sits at 2.0 and even uptier ourselves a bunch and still stomp. My face when I saw this thing with 4 .50s and sitting a 2.7...
my favorite 2.3 plane has to be the yak-2 KABB, 4x 100kg bombs, 2x 20mm, 2x 7.62mm mg's and fairly quick and manouverable ontop of that. only downside is that it doesn't have any defensive armament wich it could have for it's size. but still.. amazing donker
Really really appreciated the shout out (I had no idea he'd do that) and love how you guys all unanimously sent your thanks - hopefully keep this man and his PC sweet from now on :)
It's not a swedish machinegun, btw. It's a finnish copy of a WW1 FN Browning 13.2 mm MG (the one used on early Swedish planes), with its caliber changed to 12.7 by the Finns.
That's why it has different ammo as well, because the Finns made their own special ammo.
EDIT: Fun fact is also that the FN Browning 13.2 was based on the M2 in the first place, so the Finns basically took a gun that was based on the M2 and then converted it back to an M2. In essence.
Yeah though In-game it really performs like a carbon copy of the Swedish m/39 cannon, it just annihilates any plane it looks at..
That’s really interesting! Thanks for the info my dude!
so basically they just accidentally copied the same thing
Almost correct.. it is even crazier then this :D
@@Armgoth What isn't correct?
Brewster has one of the best kill/loss ratio of the war. It's around 25:1. On the right hand, it was OP in real life too. :)
Yeah it unfortunately got a bad reputation from facing elite pilots in Zeros.
I wouldn't trust a finnish sources from times of war. Soviets aswell too.
@@David.Z. Luckily you don´t have and luckily we have scholars who have crawled the archives both sides and compared the loss reports and claims.
One thing I always see goes unmentioned, that is LeLv 24 (air squadron 24) insignia on the nose, and most aces in ww2 from Finland served there some time, being the most know squadron.
Giga Chad out here constantly providing top tier content, I have barely watched 5sec and know this is gonna be a banger like always
Haven't even finished the ad and I know it's gonna be good
giga chad who helped fix his pc so he could give us this giga chad content
??? this video is low tier
@@creepyfishman6858 what is your favorite WT content creator
@@kewldude3921 odd probably
The history of this plane under the Finnish is both fascinating and impressive
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99th try. Please play the T80 and T28e in the USSR 2.3br, they're great fun and you have never done a video on both tanks
One factor WT has modelled but seemingly not mentioned is that FN Browning 13.2 and 12.7s had almost twice the rate of fire of their American originators.
Im pretty sure you can adjust fire rate on american brownings too they just chose to have slower fire rate
About time someone posted a video on the worst, but unique plane in U.S aviation history
This things far from the worst 🤣
Its far from worst, when it comes to Finnish service where it fought other planes that were as old as it was. It had issues in pacific when it had to fight much more advanced aircraft, but finns used to flythem till 1944 and most of the Finnish aces, including Ilmari Juutilainen, the non-german ace with most aircraft shot down with 96 confirmed air victories and 126 claimed flew Brewster designated BW-264 up untill 43. It was great aircraft against its soviet counterparts, and could hold its own against even some of the newer planes soviets fielded like LaGG's and early Yak's.
@@KoteDarasuum You must not be familiar with the build quality of Brewster.
@@martijn9568 the finnish brewsters were outfitted with different engines than the US ones and were significantly lighter, could've had something to do with the final reliability
SB2C-1 is far worse when it comes to the Flight Model (FM)
This became my new go to plane all the way up 6.7 it fly's rings around all those F4U and BF109k that are dumb enuff to dogfight,even downed a few early jets with it
OddBawz honest intro "In this video I'm gonna wreck the whole enemy team with whatever vehicle" LOL
The swedish .50s/13.2s are absolutely insane
They kill so fast
finnish*
looks like I'm going to have to start grinding out the Swedish tree
It’s worth it now
It feels great after the new update, great line up
Duh, has been for some long time now:p
The "Swedish Buffalo Ground Attack Maneuver" had me rolling with laughter! I'd love to see an attempt at a Chika ground attack video!
Odd considering fairplay and uptiering himself not to ruin the experience for all the new players is just wholesome man.
This thing is absolutely insane for real, I have fallen in love with the B-239
Its not a Buffalo. Its the Flying ale barrel.
Just started playing WT after long break when heard there is finally Finn tech tree (portion). I love the thing on ARB especially cause I finally learned basic BFM flying some DCS meanwhile.
Btw. This content is absolutely life-saving for my long parential leave. You are not just filling the cap of someone missing. I hope your channel grows to reward your time investment.
As many problems as I have with this game I have to admit they've nailed the new Cannon sound effects. Not to mention the new explosion effects on the tanks look awesome. Well done Gaijin🤯
I'd rather have 2 50. cals at this BR than most main cannons lol. Love the vid Bawz
better, it got 4
tbh yes
mg ff and /m is tricking to use and so does the zero 20mms
while most other plane only have 7.7/92mm mg
@@Project_1143M FF/Ms at least kill what they hit, the FFs are just kinda crap lol. You do have to get very close, I guess that's where the tradeoff is.
@@reinbeers5322 i mean FF/M got minengetshoss(idk) it hit and kill hard
@@Project_1143M They do hit hard, but you have to get so close.
For example, the japanese Ho-103s are much better guns.
Ive been using these with the trumpet everyday since the patch, At 140 kills in the buffalo and 200 in the BT42. My 2 favourite vehicles
As someone grinding the new Italian and German low tier vehicles...I've noticed these are a lot of people's favorites haha.
Firm handshakes for Sam
Received with thanks too!
@@samnicholson9045 are you the "Sam"?!
@@ExcavationNation sure am!
Big shoutout to Sam for fixing that PC and lending you a GPU!
I'm just glad I had an RTX 3080Ti (EVGA For The Win, no less!) to keep this man going :)
Great vid and good-on-you for giving Sam a shoutout for being such a great PC repairman. I WISH we had him here in The States, or somebody with that much dedication.
Thanks David, was a great experience for me to meet someone who makes their living on RUclips, and really pleased I could get him back in the fight. Love that he spent time with my eldest to teach him the black art of War Thunder too. Top bloke!
Famous last Words: Thats not a Archer, thats a bofors!!
Technically both the Finnish and Swedish .50 cals are copied from the Belgian FN Browning M2 .50 cal chambered either in American .50 cal or Hotchkiss 13,2 for Sweden early on.
Thing is the Finns did in fact modify the Buffalo and had some very good effect with them. So hey, one time the copy-paste patch did well.
GigaChad Sam out there saving the good content
I do my best, love that it all worked out :)
There is actually a pretty crazy wartime story behind the 12,7mm in that plane. They are not Swedish but originally FN-made and improved copies of Browning M2 that Finns got the maintenance drawing from Swedes after failing to purchase them and made their own copy based on those :D
Apparently the LKk/42 is actually not directly copied or even derived from Browning M2 .50-cal, it's more of a cousin to the M2 if that makes sense.
The lineage of this gun starts from Browning M1921 machine gun, which was a water-cooled .50-cal.
Fabrique Nationale de Herstal (i.e. FN) licensed the M1921 and then developed this gun into something called Mitrailleuse D'Avion Browning-FN Calibre 13.2 mm. This air-cooled gun intended for aircraft use was chambered in 13.2x99mm.
Sweden acquired a small amount of these machine guns, and then reverse engineered the manufacturing blueprints out of maintenance charts that came with the purchased guns. After that, LM Ericson started manufacturing this rifle with the name Akan m/39A. Finland and the VKT (Valtion Kivääritehdas, or National Rifle Factory) got access to the blueprints reverse-engineereed in Sweden, and started producing the LKk/42 (Lentokonekonekivääri 42, or Aircraft Machine Gun 42), chambered in the .50 BMG (12.7x99mm) cartridge.
The reason why Finnish Air Force wanted the gun chambered to .50 BMG was related to logistics. The Brewsters, for example, were originally armed with Colt MG 53-2 as their heavy machine guns, these being M2 machine guns produced by Colt. But Finland did not have the license to produce more of these guns, so there was a need to start replacing them - but they wanted the new gun to use interchangeable ammo, hence the decision to chamber the LKk/42 in 12.7x99mm (or .50 BMG).
John Moses Browning of course continued developing the machine gun and eventually this led to the M2 Browning in 1933, but the M1921 was the last "common ancestor" for both the M2, and the Swedish Akan m/39A or Finnish LKk/42.
My best game with the SAV was 14 kills, without death, on "Aral sea" map. I even sent the replay to the "Thunder Show" but i guess it wasn't good enough, or was too long.
Ammo breach explosions in this game are getting wild 👀
It's nice of you to show us these low tier vehicles now that there's only like 1-2 days a year where we can play them, since we have to be Rank 3+ all the time otherwise due to events that are CONSTANTLY running on WT nowadays...
What keeps me coming back to OddBawz videos?
Its his accent.
The laugh also.
1:04 just your average 12g climb in a prop plane
Much luv to Sam, thanks for helping out our RUclipsr with his PC!
Was a great experience for me, definitely a different class of customer ;)
In service from 1941 to 1945, B-239s of Lentolaivue 24 (Fighter Squadron 24) claimed 477 Soviet Air Force warplanes destroyed, with the combat loss of just 19 B-239s, an outstanding victory ratio of 26:1.
I just tried this thing in air RB and it's absolutely awesome. Great firepower and brilliant maneuverability. Most importantly, it's insanely fun. Thanks Odd for reminding me just how brilliant this little thing is. Looks like a baby P47, but turns like a Zero.
Thank you Sam for helping our bawz
Was my pleasure!
Imagine my face when I had the same smart Idea as many others here to finally start the swedish three and bought that Strv M/41, which oneshotted me my whole literal War Thunder life.... and my first shell I shot into that Sd.Kfz.234/2 bounced clean off. 🦨
Now THAT'S customer service for ya.
Aim to please at Sam's Computer Bytes :)
Thanks Sam
A pleasure!
15:17 love how the KV-1's crew got red like if they actually survived that lol.
28mm of penetration with the tracer round is very impressive. I want to see you test that on a tank at the 10 metre range lol
Sneeze at 9:12 gesundheit
I APPEARED IN YOUR INTRO, IM LITERALLY SHAKING NOW.
i never thought this would happen
Thx Sam!
Was nae bother for an awesome dude like OddBawz
Imagine if we got those hungarian and romanian(and some even say italians used it too) Gebauer motor driven twin heavy machine guns? Even if it was italian ie short Vickers .50, it's still like a mutant child of MG-131 and ShKAS... or downsized GSh-23...
Must admit I’ve always had a soft spot for the buffalo and especially the wildcat. Have to say though that when it comes to 50cals I much prefer the F82 and it’s freedom laser.
My favourite plane as well, just a magnificent thing that holds up in higher brs as well
Sam is the GOAT!
I even know what GOAT means!
Oddbawz is hiring phlydaily to make his thumbnails
B-239 also known as Pylly-Valtteri
I was surprised when 8 used this thing the guns REALY do shred and it does fine in a 4.0 lineup
This the plane that goes "Njet Molotoff, Njet Molotoff! Valehtelit enemmän kuin itse Bobrikov!"
definition of Giga Chad=Sam from Sam's Computer Base
Sam's Computer Bytes, but I will take all the praise I can buddy!
Man i LOVE the SAV, even at higher BR's its an amazing flanker. Love using it in a lineup with the Bkan and the Ikv 91 :D
In this video OddBawz destroys everyone.
Facts.
HAIL to “Sam the computerman” 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 !!!
Glad I could keep this dude flying and recording for you all :)
Thanks Sam, without you we would have nothing
You are more than welcome, was great to be a wee part of the video, must be my first ever shout-out on RUclips!
Ok odd I laughed so hard with your plane on the tree
Stealth belts, engine to 0 and off is one of my favorite ways to jump on someone from above lol
I remember playing this bad boy in Il2 1946 and raging because everything was outspeeding me 😁
good memories ☺
B-239 is such a beast. So glad they added it.
Me and a few friends pub stomp in Thatch's Buffalo which sits at 2.0 and even uptier ourselves a bunch and still stomp. My face when I saw this thing with 4 .50s and sitting a 2.7...
THANKS SAM now i can watch mr. odbawzz again!
Nae bother!
Scored an air-to-air rocket kill with the Po-2M today. Also got 7 kills with the T-35 on abandoned factory without going to A.
If anyone want to know who asked, it’s the algorithm.
the machine guns dressed up as cannons for halloween
Thank you Sam 😊
Unpopular opinion: Older players playing against new players is just breaking them in with the "Welcome to War Thunder, fuck you"
Odd's videos are always great to watch no matter what
I remember back in the day you'd take out every Stuart you had and the Buffalo and basically seal club
Me: What if the add infantry in war thunder
Gaijin: Sure, lemme do it
Me: Why is it a £50 DLC
Gaijin: IDK inflation and shit
14:44 Holy shit that dude went FUCKEN NUCLEAR!
Remember when the Sav was 3.0 oh boy the days 😅. I take it out at higher brs a bit. Side shot for days
Easy god mode monitos
my favorite 2.3 plane has to be the yak-2 KABB, 4x 100kg bombs, 2x 20mm, 2x 7.62mm mg's and fairly quick and manouverable ontop of that. only downside is that it doesn't have any defensive armament wich it could have for it's size. but still.. amazing donker
Thank you Sam. You saved the day!
Awesome, really enjoying these comments - great fanbase here :)
Bro Sam is legend fr same as the Swedish 50cal the fire rate is almost as same as the f86 saper that's why the feel better
I will happily take the Leg-End praise!
Hello OddBawz! Have a good day!
Wanna play war thunder!
Well done Odd's Computer guy !!
I certainly hope I become his new Computer Go-To guy, fab customer!
Love your videos Odd, keep it up!
sam is a legend apparently
One does ones best - just glad I could help out a local legend ;)
I remember when the Buffalo was a new plane to Aces High. Twas a tiny thing haha great plane though.
Love your content odd, keep it up. Can you play the 150mm Ho ro one day? Love from NZ
How dare they screw up the finnish airforce logo. and i give a blue cross instead
This poor guy at Sam's is about to start getting people from all over the world trying to give him work lmao!
Ah, if only I could send and receive via post!
Thank you Sam!
Welcome bud!
Lol trees. My fav little plane, got 4 kills 3 of them were pilot kills in one gbattle. Great air plane to fly tough and nimble.
thank you Sam!
My pleasure!
Feel like Sam deserves a lot of good wish thank you Sam we thank you
Loving the appreciation, was a delight to keep this man gaming, streamin' and entertaining you all :)
@@samnicholson9045 the legend himself :0
@@CrimsonJ3ster indeed, I am real, just happen to live in the same town as OddBawz 😎
Thanks Sam!
Was a real treat to fix up this PC. Glad he is back on it.
its such a good dog fighter, i still use it at higher BRs bc its so good
GG Bawz and thank you Sam
Was great to help out!
Finland is probably the closest we'll get to Estonia 😔
American aircraft with Swedish guns in the Finnish air force in Sweden's tech tree, welcome to war thunder
Time for some seal clubbing.
Sam, you absolute gamer!
Less of a gamer these days (I leave that to our kids) but I do enjoy building, upgrading and fixing Gaming PCs, especially ones as nice as OddBawz ;)
Well done Sam👍
A pleasure, dude!
@@samnicholson9045 cheers
Shoutout to that brother Sam🎉🎉
Right back at ya'!
Well done Sam
Welcome (I am running out of comments trying to reply to all of these!)
I love that planes I just got 5 ground kills un 3.7 br.BEAST
Ah, yes, the fine Fins of Fineland.