Thank you Mark and Nadia. I have To say HTSMSF is my favorite thing you do and I love it all. As soon as you post one, I tend to watch it as soon as possible that same day. This was a great insight into something that one wouldn’t expect to have such an emotive vibration, but by gosh, you brought us into this topic in such a personal and vulnerable way. Mark you made me cry. That was such a poignant realization. Nadia as you say, it’s not eat less, move more. We all know Mark doesn’t have a lazy bone in his body.. this is true childhood trauma that’s so hard to overcome. Despite that, you have created a truly touching relationship with Nanny Di that shows it’s clear you carry no ill will or sense of victim. Yet the food associations make total sense. Much love to you both and I cannot tell you how much I appreciate how real you both are xx❤️❤️
I have disordered eating. I know I binge eat now. I started perimenopause early and put on nearly two stone, that on top of my fibromyalgia and the weight gain from the meds has made me really struggle from going from someone who people make comments on how slim I am to someone who people now laugh about losing weight with. I had anorexia as a teen for a few years. My eating has always been a mess and now constantly eat my feelings as my daughter has severe mental health difficulties which are difficult to deal with. Mark is so eloquent and intelligent in his conversation and the way he conveys hid thoughts. I didn't have a great relationship with my mum either and I remember eating her takeaways in the mornings secretly when she was still in bed drunk. I never even thought of that before you said it. I wish I had grandparents. Thank you for your beautiful conversations, I realise you have your struggles like any couple, but you are something for your children to look up to as you just keep fighting.
Hands down your best & honest HTSM ! I feel it , both of u.. but Mark especially your words - it’s pain , it’s obsession , it’s control . I’ve been in & out of recovery, replace , recovery, replace for years with anorexia. It sounds crazy , I’m obsessed with food , making sure I cook , feed my healthy son but eating food myself is guilt, pain & I need to punish myself by believing I don’t need that nutrition. Whatever happens in my life , good or bad , I feel out of control at times & food & exercise is my safety , my control, the one thing I can decide for myself . No one can make me eat & sadly the way I see myself in the mirror isn’t always the reality. As horrible as it is listening to other peoples food issues , it’s also comforting to hear ur not alone & your not completely crazy 🥴 Thank u both for this one ♥️ Much love x
Thank you for sharing your personal stories and experiences, incredibly generous and brave. Well done on continuing to explore, grow and accept who you are. I struggle with my face rather then weight as well as other self worth, accepting and exploring who we are, questioning things and trying to become a better version of ourself is really tiring and takes a lot of energy. Thank you for you chats to inspire and make topics very relatable Xx
A while ago, I read about an interesting study of people with eating disorders that found that the percentage of them that had suffered some form of abuse in childhood (sexual, physical, emotional) were as follows: Obese: 83% Anorexic: 79% Bulimic: 63%. Needless to say, most abuse must be the result of narcissism, either directly (the abuser is a narcissist) or indirectly (the abuser is a victim of a narcissist who has then turned to substance abuse, resulting in becoming an abuser/neglectful).
Thank you that was an extremely brave emotional and thoughtful HTSM. It take s huge guts to talk about your marriage with the cameras on. You both help others by doing this. Thank you 😊 💓
Thank you so much Nadia and mark for talking about this really complex mental illness I’ve been dealing with Ed for a while now and knowing I’m not alone here in the comments is comforting . My heart goes out to both of ye too ❤️ anyone can suffer not just women it’s not just about the food it’s the underlying issue
Mark . You did have a bad childhood but thankfully you and your dear mum have made up for all of this and obviously your grandparents were always there for you … And you have turned into a wonderful man that you are now … 🥰🥰🥰
The timing in this was just spot on for me, thank you both so much for sharing your stories and advice. So raw and eloquently put, your HTSM is award winning in my opinion. Thank you so much for covering this subject ❤️🙏🏻
This was heartbreaking to watch you both being so honest and open about your eating disorder. You are very brave to have this discussion. You both have such a very special, open and honest relationship, you should be so very proud of this. Love and hugs to you both ❤ xxx
You two are incredible, thank you so much for sharing this. I’m 8 stone, a size 8 but when I look in the mirror I see someone at least triple my size. I hate my body,I struggle with food and feel guilty whenever I’ve eaten. I swim 3-4 times per week and feel so guilty if I miss a training session. I eat because I have a little girl and I need to eat for her. I have finally in the last month managed to eat 3 meals per day. It’s so good to know I’m not alone. Years ago I had anorexia and would eat1 packed of polos per day but I refuse to go back to that now. Thank you for highlighting these issues and love to you both.xx
Listening to this late last night helped me to see things from a more accurate perspective. My mum overeats sometimes and hoards crisps and chocolate to bed, and I get angry with her and say ‘why are you doing this to your health and your teeth!?’ because I thought it was being selfish and didn’t take it as seriously as say, alcohol addiction. You’ve helped me understand that I need to deal with the situation with more empathy, support and compassion. It’s just I’m so happy when she is eating healthily and getting exercise, and when I discover she’s overeaten it feels like a pang in my gut… I think also because I know she must be unhappy to do this, and the unhappiness of someone you love is a lot harder to solve. Thanks guys for your openness and honesty when discussing a topic which must leave you feeling vulnerable. Much love.
Wow guys fantastic chat 👏 😍 im one of seven children, my mum always watched her weight bless her, I always watched my weight but never thought it come from the way my mum was ,but now my girls say to me they conscious of their weight because they way i was i would make tea and I would always have a small plate so listening to you both my god so brings it home 😥,and now since menopause i got no control over my weight gain I can stave myself and still not loos weight it's been bloody hard so hard to except myself like this, so appreciate you guys doing these chats thank you big hugs 🤗 ❤ 💖
So moving yet heartbreaking & also positive that you can both be so honest and still look for answers for your eating disorders , addiction in all forms is tough, so well done both off you xx
Thank you for sharing, both of you. I struggled with anxiety and panic attacks from age 13-22 which was triggered by my parents divorce. I used food to ease the anxiety which led me to think that eating stopped my panic attacks. To stop me gaining weight as a young woman I realised alcohol also stopped panic attacks but the day after a night out was horrendous. After 10 years I did a do-it-yourself program from America (Lucinda Bassett). It changed my life. More recently I follow the 16/8 eating plan and I can’t believe I am that same person. Anxiety is still there but I am in control. Thank you so very much for highlighting the mental issues associated with food, addiction and overall mental health xxx 🧡
I always love HTSM, SF. You guys share beautifully, and when it comes from the heart, it hits the heart. This really resonated with me, especially Mark’s description of nighttimes. I’m 13 years sober, working my programme to the best of my ability, and yet food still leaves me feeling powerless - especially when I’m anxious. One of my first memories of my mother was her offering me a packet of crisps (Spicy Tomato Snaps) when I was crying, and they are still my go to binge food. Brave chat guys - thank you 🙏🏻
Mark and Nadia WOW how very, very brave. I was on coffee moaning this morning and you read out my comment. I have suffered with an eating disorder nearly all of my life and am dealing with a relapse of anorexia. My eating disorder had emerged due to PTSD which has been caused by physical and sexual abuse from the age of about 2 years old. Thank you so much for sharing, so many people do not understand eating disorders. You have really highlighted how much it's due to emotional difficulties. Thank you both 💓
Never watched before, but came across your episode. Love the way you guys are so open and listen to each other. I don’t think I have disordered eating as such, but love food and I do notice when I’m sad/low mood I want to treat myself with ‘nice’ food. I don’t know where this came from. I know I do it and have accepted its part of who I am, but it has also got me thinking about addiction to sugar and maybe there is something more to deal with. I do struggle with body image and the daily conversation in my head about ‘being good’ with my food choices can be all consuming. It did make me emotional listening to both of you chatting. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you both for such a honest, difficult & emotional HTSM. I literally cried along with you, Mark your childhood is very similar to mine, my mum was an alcohol & put me in allsorts of situations I so shouldn't have been in & food was not a priority, but like you when I visited my grandparents in Birmingham I was totally spoilt with food to the point I would be sick, then I remember crying all the way home as I really didn't want to go back. I've now found myself a feeder, I just want everyone to eat, I remember going on nights out & inviting loads of people to sunday lunch (not great when your going to have a hangover the next day) I'm actually bad at the moment with sugary sweets & ashamed to say I actually hide them to save the embarrassment. Mark you were so brave talking about it & Nadia too.. Thankyou for always being so kind & sharing your thruths ❤❤❤xxx
Omg you two are giving a voice to so many people... Everyone has disorder and dis ease in their lives, such a beautiful eloquent honest and heartbreaking truth.... Legends don't ever change and thank you soooo much, onwards and upwards 🧚♀️🧚♀️🧚♀️💚
This Has been so emotional, but very relatable to so many. I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts and personal stories to us all. You are the most beautiful, incredible and interesting couple I have ever seen in my life. I’m sure I speak for everyone, that through all your struggles and stresses in your life, that the power, strength and love that you have for one another, will keep you safe and happy together forever. Sending big hugs 🤗 and love ❤️
OMG!! Guys I love you both so much ♥️ your honesty and openness is so admirable… you reverted me to tears 😢 I’m usually crying at you both with laughter but this was something else so emotional 😘love you !!! Love you!!! Love you !!! 💋 mwah 💋 mwah 💋
oh mark i just want to give you a huge hug and thank you for being so open with us, i to have a bad relationship with food and anxiety and depression, your words rang so true with me, a huge well done in speaking up about this issue x
Your both so brave discussing this difficult subject in public. I hope you realise how much this will help others. Both my daughters have struggled with food and body image since they were teenagers, I struggle with how best to help them. I will definitely show them this podcast. Thanks guys
Such a powerful, eye opening & brave conversation, I know my mum has always dealt with her own food issues even though we would never talk about. She never lets herself get above 7 and half stone and I worry about her because she is so petite and the older she gets it makes me worry more (she’s the only close family I have as don’t have a relationship with my dad, apart from my boys and fella)and just want to look after her. She eats but definitely limits it to an amount and whenever she comes and stays I will hide in the kitchen to have a snack between meals, don’t know why because she would never say anything but I’ve always done it. So thank you for being honest and talking about this 😘
Thank you for just being yourselves. Your honesty will help many people. I agree, the phrase eat less move more sounds so easy doesn’t it. Maybe for many people that is all they need to be advised to do, but for others of us, it is much more complex and not so easy to do! Love and hugs to you both xx 😘
Thank you so much for this talk its so important so many of us eat our feelings, I can't remember the Japanese name but it's a word that means lonely mouth,if I have company and a good conversation with friends or family I never think about snacking ❤
Its the one thing I can't beat, I don't drink or smoke but I can't keep shoveling food into my mouth,I know its feelings but I'm not sure which ones so thanks a million for that chat. !
Bless you Mark, maybe your binge at night is your comfort for being safe with your nan and grandad. I always reminisce my childhood it was a safe place. So different nowadays kids have so much pressure on them. You both are so helpful to talk about things that have affected your lives. Xxx
Sat watching this tonight and my heart breaks hearing you guys open up about your struggles, especially you Mark. I want to reach out and give you a big hug, I can totally relate and feel very much the same. Nads you are such a rock to him and so strong. Mark i’m here if you ever fancy a ‘friendly’ chat. X
I cannot thank you enough for this chat. Today after years of thinking about it I have finally booked my first OA meeting. You two are wonderful and I am so grateful for the things you have shared today - you are both so brave and you have helped me more than you’ll ever know. Mark - I identify with you the most and am exactly the same with night time binges and jars of Nutella and the feelings the guilt the shame the desperation to stuff down the feelings of loneliness the depression the anxiety. I love you both so much and thank you xxxx
My daughter has anorexia and has been sectioned three times as she’s become so unwell. Good Treatment is hard to get and seems almost impossible when they turn 18. Thanks for sharing your feelings x
Mark, I sincerely hope that you seek help for your childhood trauma. I, like you, grew up with an alcoholic parent (my dad was a violent drunk, who even hit my mom in front me and my sisters when she was 8-months pregnant with my little sister) and it has caused me so much pain. I’m 50 now, and am finally dealing with it by going to Al-Anon, ACA and professional help from a clinical psychologist. It’s turning my life around and I’m starting to feel real freedom from that crippling pain and trauma. I just want to reach through the screen and give you a big hug because I can FEEL your pain. Much love to you and Nads. What a beautiful couple you are 💜💜
Nadia,thanks so much to you and Mark for HTSM-I can relate so much to Marks story but also I can see red flags in my children. I am going to find the OA support groups and see if I can sort this food thing out. You are doing so much for so many. PS I’ve not been able to join the members group in my own name but I’m in it as Philippa Birchall for members only and my own name for the rest of the stuff. God bless you all x
I was listening in the background whilst potching. But as always, something is mentioned in your convos, that just.... hits. An makes sense... finally!!!! Aww you have no idea how many pieces of this puzzle in my mind, you have helped. I h8 food. Wouldnt eat if i didnt have too. Why tho, thanks to you guys, i have a better answer. X
Battling with my own disordered eating right now and I felt like I was sat there with you both, listening to snippets from each of you which could have been cherry picked from my own life experience. I feel like I am on the brink right now, like I can’t take much more yet I am still feeding the beast so to speak. I loved listening to you two talk and wished that my own partner had just one modicum of the understanding you share between you. It’s in no way his fault but he is a very black and white eat less move more food is fuel person and just doesn’t get me. Anyway I send you both love light and happiness and gratitude for sharing your thoughts xxx
Good on you both ,x I think my emotions is dealt with food ,either the lack of it or over eating depending on my mood. The way I do it is 3 meals a day and none in between and then I try and focus on something else xx
You’re so brave to share and it’s very admirable. I emotional eat but I haven’t managed to figure out why or how to stop. To look at me, I’m not overweight but I am and I have an emotional relationship with food.
There was no mention, and it might be important to recognize the physical link - the conversation between our brain and gut is known as the gut-brain axis. It involves the central nervous system (CNS) and the enteric nervous system (ENS). The central nervous system consists of our brain and spinal cord. It controls thoughts and emotions, along with breathing, heart rate, body temperature, and the release of some hormones. The enteric nervous system, also known as our “second brain,” consists of 200-600 million neurons that move throughout our digestive system. The ENS works in tandem with the CNS, however the ENS regulates some gastrointestinal functions independently, such as moving food through the gut, and bowel movements. The ENS also controls the release of some neurotransmitters, including gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) and serotonin. We're probably all aware of the link between those and mental health. Serotonin and other neurotransmitters travel from the gut to the brain via the vagus nerve. This is the body’s longest nerve that emerges directly from the brain. Chemical signals travel both from the gut to the brain and vice versa. Because of this, those with gut issues are at a higher risk of mood imbalances, anxiety, and depression. Although easier said than done, cutting out the processed food as much as possible is really important to gut health, otherwise it all remains a vicious cycle. Also, there's nothing wrong with not being a social beast, it's actually an endearing trait, common in the most genuine and kind people.
Thankyou mark and Nadia I loved this chat mark and Nadia I love how so open you both are in you're relationship I was in tears too bless you both 🙏🤗 Nadia I too can turn to food if my anxiety is high or if something has upset me but I remember when you have said think why are you doing this. And sit with my feelings and talk about them so thankyou mark and Nadia you wonderful caring friends 🙏🤗🤗🤗💕💕💕👍👍👍👍❤️❤️
Oooh Mark you are such a wonderful man. So articulate, so brave, so courageous and honest. Of course you too Nadia, but I think you’re right, it is so much harder for men to talk like this. Love to both of you very special people ❤️❤️❤️
I feel this is your most emotional podcast because I have never seen nadia Get as emotional in a podcast as happened in this podcast. I would like to congratulate you both on Your podcasts I am an avid listener of them .
Wow 😭 I want to give you both a hug after watching that! I never thought I had a problem with food but I can go for days without eating a thing when I’m sat at home on my own, lonely, and not even realised I’ve not eaten for 2 days! This is something I’ve never ever shared with anyone 😭 by the way & it’s really hard for me to send this comment xx 💞😭
Aww mark this made me cry x I'm so upset to see how feel x I have a bad relationship with food x I can be really good during the day but night about couple of hours before bed I get anxious scared so i binge eat x thank you talking about this my partner doesn't understand x he says wish you wasn't like this it makes him feel down 😢😡
Thank you Mark you have helped me understand my husbands late night secret eating. I too have lost my shit with him for doing it. I have spent all of our marriage cooking healthy for him and been really angry with him xx
Hi both. What you said Nadia, about never seeing middle aged men speak about eating disorders? Of course, is generally correct. This is something I have direct though not dire experience of. But Christopher Eccleston ( who's around 55...?) writes about his lifelong eating disorders in his autobiographical book "I Love the Bones of You". Print and audio book edition available.
I have food addictions it’s horrendous I need use products to supress appetite as only thing works for me .. I nearly had weightloss surgery I would sit from 10pm till 2am eating
I need to ask if you'll bring Lisa, Nany Di on more? I watched one with Lisa on title but she only had short air time. I am a widow of suicide going on 14 years April 5. My dtr is struggling mentally horribly. I am having horrible back spasms fount from top of my head to bottom of my feet. I just cry knowing what the little babies who have cancer aren't getting their treatments and their mothers wailing
I've never been food orientated, but my son managed a restaurant that people came from all over the world to eat. I'd regularly head up there to eat (it was in the middle of nowhere) and I'd sit there wondering what I was missing - everyone else were almost orgasming in sheer delight as they ate the same meal as I was but to me it tasted nice but that was about all. The lightbulb moment came from the realisation that some people are foodies. As a musician I get the same massive rush a foodie does, but obviously for a different input. Artists, sports folks, petrolheads, dancers, mountaineers, writers etc most of us have our thing. Some of us though get obsessed and I totally admit that's me for music. And in various times of my life its become out of control - practicing 16 hours a day, getting up in the middle of the night to listen to more music, obsessively playing one note over and over to get the exact sound I could hear in my head. I've had counseling to counteract this because it became a huge problem. I lost relationships and friendships along the way too. I now accept this is who I am, have wonderful friends who tell me when I'm heading down the slippery slope of becoming lost in my madness. There are days I happily indulge myself but have learned to not inflict it on others.
Just wondering, have you had conversation with your mum about the past ? Does she feel guilt and have you both had therapy to help healing ? Lots of love ❤️
I’m 50 and have body dysmorphia and bulimia,but I dress quirky and people think I’m confident. I’m single and a size 8 but hate my body . Ps mark I have not drank since 2005/6 as it made my anxiety terrible and I have an addicted personality cx
Thank you Mark and Nadia. I have To say HTSMSF is my favorite thing you do and I love it all. As soon as you post one, I tend to watch it as soon as possible that same day. This was a great insight into something that one wouldn’t expect to have such an emotive vibration, but by gosh, you brought us into this topic in such a personal and vulnerable way. Mark you made me cry. That was such a poignant realization. Nadia as you say, it’s not eat less, move more. We all know Mark doesn’t have a lazy bone in his body.. this is true childhood trauma that’s so hard to overcome. Despite that, you have created a truly touching relationship with Nanny Di that shows it’s clear you carry no ill will or sense of victim. Yet the food associations make total sense. Much love to you both and I cannot tell you how much I appreciate how real you both are xx❤️❤️
Lovely words ❤
Perfectly said
My heart broke for Mark. Nights are the worst; the thoughts and fears are the loudest
I never comment but just have to say that was an amazing insight that will be powerful to many people .Thank you
I have disordered eating. I know I binge eat now. I started perimenopause early and put on nearly two stone, that on top of my fibromyalgia and the weight gain from the meds has made me really struggle from going from someone who people make comments on how slim I am to someone who people now laugh about losing weight with. I had anorexia as a teen for a few years. My eating has always been a mess and now constantly eat my feelings as my daughter has severe mental health difficulties which are difficult to deal with. Mark is so eloquent and intelligent in his conversation and the way he conveys hid thoughts. I didn't have a great relationship with my mum either and I remember eating her takeaways in the mornings secretly when she was still in bed drunk. I never even thought of that before you said it. I wish I had grandparents. Thank you for your beautiful conversations, I realise you have your struggles like any couple, but you are something for your children to look up to as you just keep fighting.
Poor mark still can't get a word in, when he does he gets cut off 😕 x
Hands down your best & honest HTSM ! I feel it , both of u.. but Mark especially your words - it’s pain , it’s obsession , it’s control . I’ve been in & out of recovery, replace , recovery, replace for years with anorexia. It sounds crazy , I’m obsessed with food , making sure I cook , feed my healthy son but eating food myself is guilt, pain & I need to punish myself by believing I don’t need that nutrition. Whatever happens in my life , good or bad , I feel out of control at times & food & exercise is my safety , my control, the one thing I can decide for myself . No one can make me eat & sadly the way I see myself in the mirror isn’t always the reality.
As horrible as it is listening to other peoples food issues , it’s also comforting to hear ur not alone & your not completely crazy 🥴
Thank u both for this one ♥️
Much love x
Thank you for sharing your personal stories and experiences, incredibly generous and brave. Well done on continuing to explore, grow and accept who you are. I struggle with my face rather then weight as well as other self worth, accepting and exploring who we are, questioning things and trying to become a better version of ourself is really tiring and takes a lot of energy. Thank you for you chats to inspire and make topics very relatable Xx
Poor Mark looks exhausted. He cannot seem to relax his brain especially at night. Lots of love xx
A while ago, I read about an interesting study of people with eating disorders that found that the percentage of them that had suffered some form of abuse in childhood (sexual, physical, emotional) were as follows:
Obese: 83%
Anorexic: 79%
Bulimic: 63%.
Needless to say, most abuse must be the result of narcissism, either directly (the abuser is a narcissist) or indirectly (the abuser is a victim of a narcissist who has then turned to substance abuse, resulting in becoming an abuser/neglectful).
Thank you that was an extremely brave emotional and thoughtful HTSM. It take s huge guts to talk about your marriage with the cameras on. You both help others by doing this. Thank you 😊 💓
Thank you so much Nadia and mark for talking about this really complex mental illness I’ve been dealing with Ed for a while now and knowing I’m not alone here in the comments is comforting . My heart goes out to both of ye too ❤️ anyone can suffer not just women it’s not just about the food it’s the underlying issue
Mark . You did have a bad childhood but thankfully you and your dear mum have made up for all of this and obviously your grandparents were always there for you … And you have turned into a wonderful man that you are now … 🥰🥰🥰
The timing in this was just spot on for me, thank you both so much for sharing your stories and advice. So raw and eloquently put, your HTSM is award winning in my opinion. Thank you so much for covering this subject ❤️🙏🏻
This was heartbreaking to watch you both being so honest and open about your eating disorder. You are very brave to have this discussion. You both have such a very special, open and honest relationship, you should be so very proud of this. Love and hugs to you both ❤ xxx
You two are incredible, thank you so much for sharing this. I’m 8 stone, a size 8 but when I look in the mirror I see someone at least triple my size. I hate my body,I struggle with food and feel guilty whenever I’ve eaten. I swim 3-4 times per week and feel so guilty if I miss a training session. I eat because I have a little girl and I need to eat for her. I have finally in the last month managed to eat 3 meals per day. It’s so good to know I’m not alone. Years ago I had anorexia and would eat1 packed of polos per day but I refuse to go back to that now. Thank you for highlighting these issues and love to you both.xx
Listening to this late last night helped me to see things from a more accurate perspective. My mum overeats sometimes and hoards crisps and chocolate to bed, and I get angry with her and say ‘why are you doing this to your health and your teeth!?’ because I thought it was being selfish and didn’t take it as seriously as say, alcohol addiction. You’ve helped me understand that I need to deal with the situation with more empathy, support and compassion. It’s just I’m so happy when she is eating healthily and getting exercise, and when I discover she’s overeaten it feels like a pang in my gut… I think also because I know she must be unhappy to do this, and the unhappiness of someone you love is a lot harder to solve. Thanks guys for your openness and honesty when discussing a topic which must leave you feeling vulnerable. Much love.
Wow guys fantastic chat 👏 😍 im one of seven children, my mum always watched her weight bless her, I always watched my weight but never thought it come from the way my mum was ,but now my girls say to me they conscious of their weight because they way i was i would make tea and I would always have a small plate so listening to you both my god so brings it home 😥,and now since menopause i got no control over my weight gain I can stave myself and still not loos weight it's been bloody hard so hard to except myself like this, so appreciate you guys doing these chats thank you big hugs 🤗 ❤ 💖
Your my favourite couple so down to earth and open may you have very many happy years together
MARK i didn’t think I could admire you anymore than I do I was wrong listening to you bearing your sole I FELT YOUR PAIN so emotional THANKYOU
So moving yet heartbreaking & also positive that you can both be so honest and still look for answers for your eating disorders , addiction in all forms is tough, so well done both off you xx
Thank you for sharing, both of you. I struggled with anxiety and panic attacks from age 13-22 which was triggered by my parents divorce. I used food to ease the anxiety which led me to think that eating stopped my panic attacks. To stop me gaining weight as a young woman I realised alcohol also stopped panic attacks but the day after a night out was horrendous. After 10 years I did a do-it-yourself program from America (Lucinda Bassett). It changed my life. More recently I follow the 16/8 eating plan and I can’t believe I am that same person. Anxiety is still there but I am in control. Thank you so very much for highlighting the mental issues associated with food, addiction and overall mental health xxx 🧡
This has saved a life. Understanding that these feelings are real and not unique to me. Got help today x
I always love HTSM, SF. You guys share beautifully, and when it comes from the heart, it hits the heart. This really resonated with me, especially Mark’s description of nighttimes. I’m 13 years sober, working my programme to the best of my ability, and yet food still leaves me feeling powerless - especially when I’m anxious. One of my first memories of my mother was her offering me a packet of crisps (Spicy Tomato Snaps) when I was crying, and they are still my go to binge food. Brave chat guys - thank you 🙏🏻
Mark and Nadia WOW how very, very brave. I was on coffee moaning this morning and you read out my comment. I have suffered with an eating disorder nearly all of my life and am dealing with a relapse of anorexia. My eating disorder had emerged due to PTSD which has been caused by physical and sexual abuse from the age of about 2 years old. Thank you so much for sharing, so many people do not understand eating disorders. You have really highlighted how much it's due to emotional difficulties. Thank you both 💓
I’m dealing with anorexia too wow u been through a lot sending love one day at a time
@@orla3934 Aah bless you and thank you, it's such a debilitating illness isn't it. I hope you're ok. Xx
Never watched before, but came across your episode. Love the way you guys are so open and listen to each other. I don’t think I have disordered eating as such, but love food and I do notice when I’m sad/low mood I want to treat myself with ‘nice’ food. I don’t know where this came from. I know I do it and have accepted its part of who I am, but it has also got me thinking about addiction to sugar and maybe there is something more to deal with. I do struggle with body image and the daily conversation in my head about ‘being good’ with my food choices can be all consuming. It did make me emotional listening to both of you chatting. Thank you for sharing.
Such a powerful episode, thank you. 🙏💕
Thank you both for such a honest, difficult & emotional HTSM. I literally cried along with you, Mark your childhood is very similar to mine, my mum was an alcohol & put me in allsorts of situations I so shouldn't have been in & food was not a priority, but like you when I visited my grandparents in Birmingham I was totally spoilt with food to the point I would be sick, then I remember crying all the way home as I really didn't want to go back. I've now found myself a feeder, I just want everyone to eat, I remember going on nights out & inviting loads of people to sunday lunch (not great when your going to have a hangover the next day) I'm actually bad at the moment with sugary sweets & ashamed to say I actually hide them to save the embarrassment.
Mark you were so brave talking about it & Nadia too.. Thankyou for always being so kind & sharing your thruths ❤❤❤xxx
@@sheila6186 thank you so much for your kind words, means so much ❤️ xxx
Thank you ❤️
Wow well done guys. That must have been so hard for you both. That must rings so many bells for lots of people including me. Love you guys 😘
Omg you two are giving a voice to so many people... Everyone has disorder and dis ease in their lives, such a beautiful eloquent honest and heartbreaking truth.... Legends don't ever change and thank you soooo much, onwards and upwards 🧚♀️🧚♀️🧚♀️💚
This Has been so emotional, but very relatable to so many. I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts and personal stories to us all. You are the most beautiful, incredible and interesting couple I have ever seen in my life. I’m sure I speak for everyone, that through all your struggles and stresses in your life, that the power, strength and love that you have for one another, will keep you safe and happy together forever. Sending big hugs 🤗 and love ❤️
Freddie Flintoff has suffered with eating disorder, that's the first time I heard of a male suffering. Love you guys 🥰
OMG!! Guys I love you both so much ♥️ your honesty and openness is so admirable… you reverted me to tears 😢 I’m usually crying at you both with laughter but this was something else so emotional 😘love you !!! Love you!!! Love you !!! 💋 mwah 💋 mwah 💋
This was so raw and touching, thank you so much for sharing
Darlings I love your HTSM channel - you both have such compassion for each other and your so honest that I’m in awe of you x
The power of talking and sharing ❤️ thank you. A very emotional and relatable htsmsf. ❤️❤️
oh mark i just want to give you a huge hug and thank you for being so open with us, i to have a bad relationship with food and anxiety and depression, your words rang so true with me, a huge well done in speaking up about this issue x
Your both so brave discussing this difficult subject in public. I hope you realise how much this will help others. Both my daughters have struggled with food and body image since they were teenagers, I struggle with how best to help them. I will definitely show them this podcast. Thanks guys
This made me cry . Mark. I get it. I have similar issues with food. Nadia. Thank you for being so open too. This is great stuff you are doing here. Xx
If people tell people to eat less and move more then they don't understand. It's complicated. My partner has issues with food
Such a powerful, eye opening & brave conversation, I know my mum has always dealt with her own food issues even though we would never talk about. She never lets herself get above 7 and half stone and I worry about her because she is so petite and the older she gets it makes me worry more (she’s the only close family I have as don’t have a relationship with my dad, apart from my boys and fella)and just want to look after her. She eats but definitely limits it to an amount and whenever she comes and stays I will hide in the kitchen to have a snack between meals, don’t know why because she would never say anything but I’ve always done it. So thank you for being honest and talking about this 😘
Thank you for just being yourselves. Your honesty will help many people. I agree, the phrase eat less move more sounds so easy doesn’t it. Maybe for many people that is all they need to be advised to do, but for others of us, it is much more complex and not so easy to do!
Love and hugs to you both xx 😘
Thank you so much for this talk its so important so many of us eat our feelings, I can't remember the Japanese name but it's a word that means lonely mouth,if I have company and a good conversation with friends or family I never think about snacking ❤
A very emotional listen and honest account......truly inspiring ❤️
Wow. I'm crying my eyes out. Amazing chat. Thank you.
This is so powerful thank you both so much xxxx
This just made me love you both even more ! 💕💕💕💋
Its the one thing I can't beat, I don't drink or smoke but I can't keep shoveling food into my mouth,I know its feelings but I'm not sure which ones so thanks a million for that chat.
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Bless you Mark, maybe your binge at night is your comfort for being safe with your nan and grandad. I always reminisce my childhood it was a safe place. So different nowadays kids have so much pressure on them. You both are so helpful to talk about things that have affected your lives. Xxx
Sat watching this tonight and my heart breaks hearing you guys open up about your struggles, especially you Mark. I want to reach out and give you a big hug, I can totally relate and feel very much the same. Nads you are such a rock to him and so strong. Mark i’m here if you ever fancy a ‘friendly’ chat. X
Mark, Nadia… I adore ye and admire ye. Thank you for your honesty, thank you for showing us your souls, thank you both for just being you.
I cannot thank you enough for this chat. Today after years of thinking about it I have finally booked my first OA meeting. You two are wonderful and I am so grateful for the things you have shared today - you are both so brave and you have helped me more than you’ll ever know. Mark - I identify with you the most and am exactly the same with night time binges and jars of Nutella and the feelings the guilt the shame the desperation to stuff down the feelings of loneliness the depression the anxiety. I love you both so much and thank you xxxx
Big hugs thank you for sharing very emotional love you guys xx
Thank you super brave mark can relate due to bullying i become emotional eating and still are x
Oh as if I couldn’t love you two more ❤️ a very heartfelt talk that really resounded with me sending much love xxx
Bless your heart Mark😢you just reminded me of myself❤️
Incredibly moving Mark, thanks for sharing these very personal issues. Not easy at all.
My daughter has anorexia and has been sectioned three times as she’s become so unwell. Good Treatment is hard to get and seems almost impossible when they turn 18. Thanks for sharing your feelings x
Much love to both of you for experiencing this x
Mark, I sincerely hope that you seek help for your childhood trauma. I, like you, grew up with an alcoholic parent (my dad was a violent drunk, who even hit my mom in front me and my sisters when she was 8-months pregnant with my little sister) and it has caused me so much pain.
I’m 50 now, and am finally dealing with it by going to Al-Anon, ACA and professional help from a clinical psychologist. It’s turning my life around and I’m starting to feel real freedom from that crippling pain and trauma.
I just want to reach through the screen and give you a big hug because I can FEEL your pain. Much love to you and Nads. What a beautiful couple you are 💜💜
You broke my heart Mark and I send you the biggest hug and love 💗 💜💗
Nadia,thanks so much to you and Mark for HTSM-I can relate so much to Marks story but also I can see red flags in my children. I am going to find the OA support groups and see if I can sort this food thing out. You are doing so much for so many. PS I’ve not been able to join the members group in my own name but I’m in it as Philippa Birchall for members only and my own name for the rest of the stuff. God bless you all x
Thanks for sharing ❤️❤️
I was listening in the background whilst potching. But as always, something is mentioned in your convos, that just.... hits. An makes sense... finally!!!! Aww you have no idea how many pieces of this puzzle in my mind, you have helped.
I h8 food. Wouldnt eat if i didnt have too. Why tho, thanks to you guys, i have a better answer. X
Battling with my own disordered eating right now and I felt like I was sat there with you both, listening to snippets from each of you which could have been cherry picked from my own life experience. I feel like I am on the brink right now, like I can’t take much more yet I am still feeding the beast so to speak. I loved listening to you two talk and wished that my own partner had just one modicum of the understanding you share between you. It’s in no way his fault but he is a very black and white eat less move more food is fuel person and just doesn’t get me. Anyway I send you both love light and happiness and gratitude for sharing your thoughts xxx
Oh sweetie could you get him to watch this ?
Good on you both ,x I think my emotions is dealt with food ,either the lack of it or over eating depending on my mood. The way I do it is 3 meals a day and none in between and then I try and focus on something else xx
You’re so brave to share and it’s very admirable. I emotional eat but I haven’t managed to figure out why or how to stop. To look at me, I’m not overweight but I am and I have an emotional relationship with food.
There was no mention, and it might be important to recognize the physical link - the conversation between our brain and gut is known as the gut-brain axis. It involves the central nervous system (CNS) and the enteric nervous system (ENS).
The central nervous system consists of our brain and spinal cord. It controls thoughts and emotions, along with breathing, heart rate, body temperature, and the release of some hormones.
The enteric nervous system, also known as our “second brain,” consists of 200-600 million neurons that move throughout our digestive system.
The ENS works in tandem with the CNS, however the ENS regulates some gastrointestinal functions independently, such as moving food through the gut, and bowel movements.
The ENS also controls the release of some neurotransmitters, including gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) and serotonin. We're probably all aware of the link between those and mental health.
Serotonin and other neurotransmitters travel from the gut to the brain via the vagus nerve. This is the body’s longest nerve that emerges directly from the brain. Chemical signals travel both from the gut to the brain and vice versa. Because of this, those with gut issues are at a higher risk of mood imbalances, anxiety, and depression. Although easier said than done, cutting out the processed food as much as possible is really important to gut health, otherwise it all remains a vicious cycle.
Also, there's nothing wrong with not being a social beast, it's actually an endearing trait, common in the most genuine and kind people.
Thankyou mark and Nadia I loved this chat mark and Nadia I love how so open you both are in you're relationship I was in tears too bless you both 🙏🤗 Nadia I too can turn to food if my anxiety is high or if something has upset me but I remember when you have said think why are you doing this. And sit with my feelings and talk about them so thankyou mark and Nadia you wonderful caring friends 🙏🤗🤗🤗💕💕💕👍👍👍👍❤️❤️
I just wanted to add if u could do another
Podcast on eating issues again in the future really thought provoking and
Extremely important.
Darren Cohen
Oooh Mark you are such a wonderful man. So articulate, so brave, so courageous and honest. Of course you too Nadia, but I think you’re right, it is so much harder for men to talk like this. Love to both of you very special people ❤️❤️❤️
I feel this is your most emotional podcast because I have never seen nadia
Get as emotional in a podcast as happened in this podcast.
I would like to congratulate you both on
Your podcasts I am an avid listener of them .
I couldn't admire you two more big hugs 💚
Wow 😭 I want to give you both a hug after watching that! I never thought I had a problem with food but I can go for days without eating a thing when I’m sat at home on my own, lonely, and not even realised I’ve not eaten for 2 days!
This is something I’ve never ever shared with anyone 😭 by the way & it’s really hard for me to send this comment xx 💞😭
Oh sweetie it’s an honour to us that you shared back xx
Thank you 🙏
Mark, such poignant and considered reflections. Always so powerfully honest
Massive hugs 🤗 both of you 🤗 💙 ❤
I've never hear dof OA I will definitely look at this for me and then for my daughter
Aww mark this made me cry x I'm so upset to see how feel x I have a bad relationship with food x I can be really good during the day but night about couple of hours before bed I get anxious scared so i binge eat x thank you talking about this my partner doesn't understand x he says wish you wasn't like this it makes him feel down 😢😡
Brave, honest & Inspiring
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I absolutely love you two. 💕
Totally relate to mark about the evenings xx
Thank you Mark you have helped me understand my husbands late night secret eating. I too have lost my shit with him for doing it. I have spent all of our marriage cooking healthy for him and been really angry with him xx
Beautiful couple inside and out. Fact x
Mark looks tired xx
Hi both. What you said Nadia, about never seeing middle aged men speak about eating disorders? Of course, is generally correct.
This is something I have direct though not dire experience of. But Christopher Eccleston ( who's around 55...?) writes about his lifelong eating disorders in his autobiographical book "I Love the Bones of You".
Print and audio book edition available.
Can absolutely understand been there...😪🙏
I have food addictions it’s horrendous I need use products to supress appetite as only thing works for me .. I nearly had weightloss surgery I would sit from 10pm till 2am eating
Aww mark 😢 ❤ 🤗🤗
I've done that with smoked salmon! 😀
I need to ask if you'll bring Lisa, Nany Di on more? I watched one with Lisa on title but she only had short air time. I am a widow of suicide going on 14 years April 5. My dtr is struggling mentally horribly. I am having horrible back spasms fount from top of my head to bottom of my feet. I just cry knowing what the little babies who have cancer aren't getting their treatments and their mothers wailing
Well done mark 👍
I've never been food orientated, but my son managed a restaurant that people came from all over the world to eat. I'd regularly head up there to eat (it was in the middle of nowhere) and I'd sit there wondering what I was missing - everyone else were almost orgasming in sheer delight as they ate the same meal as I was but to me it tasted nice but that was about all. The lightbulb moment came from the realisation that some people are foodies. As a musician I get the same massive rush a foodie does, but obviously for a different input. Artists, sports folks, petrolheads, dancers, mountaineers, writers etc most of us have our thing. Some of us though get obsessed and I totally admit that's me for music. And in various times of my life its become out of control - practicing 16 hours a day, getting up in the middle of the night to listen to more music, obsessively playing one note over and over to get the exact sound I could hear in my head. I've had counseling to counteract this because it became a huge problem. I lost relationships and friendships along the way too. I now accept this is who I am, have wonderful friends who tell me when I'm heading down the slippery slope of becoming lost in my madness. There are days I happily indulge myself but have learned to not inflict it on others.
Just wondering, have you had conversation with your mum about the past ? Does she feel guilt and have you both had therapy to help healing ? Lots of love ❤️
I’m 50 and have body dysmorphia and bulimia,but I dress quirky and people think I’m confident. I’m single and a size 8 but hate my body . Ps mark I have not drank since 2005/6 as it made my anxiety terrible and I have an addicted personality cx
I’ve got a thing for Nutella, can’t resist 😂
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What's the couples programme mentioned on iplayer ?is it couples therapy?
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We all have skeletons in the closet .. but it’s who we are now that really matters and how far we have come and what we have achieved xxxx