Joel Klatt reacts to final CFB Playoff rankings, New Heisman front runner | CFB | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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- Joel Klatt joins Cris Carter and Nick Wright to discuss the final CFB Playoff rankings. Hear what Joel had to say about the final four teams. Plus, is Oklahoma's Kyler Murray the new front runner for the Heisman trophy.
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Who will win the Heisman this season?
First Things First: Cris Carter and Nick Wright #KylerMurray hands down
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First Things First: Cris Carter and Nick Wright Tua Tortellini
As a Bama fan I would say Kyler. Tua had a really bad game. But he still the goat
Murray wins the Heisman trophy period
Dude, I love Klatt... to CC, "Did you get to play the Broncos after the missed FG?" Hillarious.
Mike Lowenberg, Then he muted when Cris asked him: "Outside of Clemson, who else has this resume? "
CC got burrrnnnned
Shots fired at CC
Could’ve said...idk, been awhile since I played in the NFL. When was ur last NFL game Joel?
...."in '98?"
Still can't believe Fury got up.
Agreed. I thought it was over.
I'm wondering the same thing lol Wilder knocked the Soul out of Fury😂😂
Still can’t believe Georgia blew 2nd & 26
Fury has years of experience I don’t want to take anything away from Wilder but just my opinion it is muscle memory cause he been their many times.
@Councilman Les Wynan TRU
Props for Jalen for not quitting and sticking with Alabama as he could have left when he wasn't the starter.
Sokly Vann if I was him I would have left and went somewhere else and balled out and had fun. And would have been laughing at home when GA smoked them. They disrespected him.
He saved us from having two SEC teams in the CFP
He should've left honestly they don't respect him and without him they'd be in trouble
Jalen showed a lot of class and maturity by staying at Alabama.... realizing that he could become a better player, passer, etc.
When Kelly Bryant quit on Clemson and decided to transferred....why didn't he stay and fight for the starting position? Immaturity, ego? (I'm a bama fan living in Clemson) To be great....you have to fail first...
Gained my respect. Despite what what he lacks, he has always been a class act throughout the whole thing. Definitely have respect for the kid
Imagine an 8 team playoff this year:
1. Alabama vs 8. UCF
-they wanted Bama? Give them Bama
2. Clemson vs. 7. Michigan
- two of the, supposedly, best defenses in the country facing off
3. Notre Dame vs. 6. Ohio State
-two of the most historic programs in college football going to battle
4. Oklahoma vs. 5. Georgia
- the “most deserving” vs. the team that may have been better but had 2 losses
I’m not saying that 8 teams is the answer, but it would make an extremely fun bowl season.
Billy Goodwin ya but is Michigan really worthy of a shot at the national title? The playoff was created because there was an argument during the BCS era that the 3rd or 4th teams deserved a shot at the championship. You can’t argue the 7th team in the country deserves a shot at being the national champion
Billy Goodwin this is it Chief
I would watch all of those games.
I definitely agree it would make for a better playoff. Unfortunately, it also has a lot of unintended negative consequences. Just a short list:
1. For people already complaining about meaningless conference championships, this only makes it worse.
2. The bowls outside the NY6 are already struggling for notoriety. This pushes them even further into the background.
3. It makes the discussion for who's in vs who's out a lot less compelling. Also, the line between 8 and 9 tends to be way closer than between 4 and 5.
4. Lots of years, the 1 vs 8 isnt that interesting. It would be this year, but likely still a stomp.
It would destroy college football.
I love when CC said "I aced the midterm, I aced all the quizzes, and the final I miss a couple answers"
actually he missed 15 out of 25
Ya that’s a 40% that would bring my overall grade down a bunch!
drwinstonOboogi Try taking a test with pain. Let’s say a migraine will mess you up
Dionne Kyler has more yardage, more touchdowns, a LOT more rush yardage and touchdowns while also racking up more throwing tds. Everyone uses the fourth quarter argument but take away kylers fourth quarter and they’re still better. Plus, he has a high qb rating and completion percentage. And if OU had a defense he wouldn’t be playing fourth quarters either that’s not his fault. He’s so much more fun to watch
Idc how much work you've put in before, the final is the most important test and Tua failed it! He finally went up against a decent defense and got exposed!
The BCS rating had the exact same 4 teams in the playoff in the exact same order this year. The committee nailed it this year. Whoever the best team is this year will win the natty. I for one think this system is wayyyyy better than than what we had before. People are gonna cry and moan no matter what system we have. How bout let’s enjoy the great sport of college football. Every game every week matters. Don’t lose by 4tds to a 500 team and cry about being left out of the playoff 😎
right on Peete!
Pigskin Peete nobodies crying us OSU fans knew we wasn’t getting in. We focusing on next year and have better defense cuz honestly we have the best QB in College football right now.
lets face it. we all know its clem vs bama. ND and OU are not good teams. college in general seems to have very weak teams this year to choose from. best 4? idk i think georgia would have made it more interesting having them in it. at least we know they can hang with bama. i cant say the same for ND or OU.
The 4 best aren't in. Vegas has UGA as a favorite against ND, OSU, OU.
Pigskin Peete notre Dame isn’t a top team . They’re going to get beat by more than 14 ..... who have they beat to justify being a top team?
I'm a Longhorns fan from the state of Texas. I watched kyler Murray win 3 state titles in a row and not lose 1 game. Now hes in college and lost 1 game and then beat us in the big one. Hes a stud and deserves the Heisman
Tyler Mckenzie so he deserves the heisman because his high school resume? Well Tua won the elite 11
@@seanmer5273 lol he Won a qb competition with no pads and no defense congratulations. Kyler should win cause he wasn't bailed out by a back up in the conference championship game
Tyler Mckenzie i was joking, because high school competition is irrelevant. Kyler lost games at A&M also. Tua is a stud he deserves the heisman.
@@seanmer5273 tua was getting his tail kicked by Georgia. Jalen hurts came in and bailed him out. Meanwhile Murray been bailing out the worst defense in the big 12 all year. Tua plays will 5 1st rounders on defense. Margin error way less for kyler
Tyler Mckenzie Marin of error is way less for Kyler Murray? The defenses he plays are just as bad as his teams. Tua is lighting up the SEC. Had 2 picks before the game threw 2 and still ended the year with less picks than Murray. Alabama was down by one touchdown when Tua got hurt and he was leading his team back . So how did Jalen bail him out? Tua didnt get benched, and there was still time on the clock. Your bias because you watched Murray in high school 🤣😂
Joel out there just spitting facts.
No he's not. Lol. Facts!
No he ain't
Man I don't know what's wrong with Cris trashing Haskins the way he does. The man in my opinion is the best of the 3 hands down
james warner Haskins May prove to be better long term but right now he’s not. All the games that they almost lost and the one they lost he folded when pressured and hit. I think the other two handle that better bcuz of the foot speed and I think Tua is a better thrower right now. For me a big sign was Penn State. He got pressured a lot and played poorly so they switched to mostly screen throws and allowed their athletes to create plays in space . He will for sure win the Heisman next year tho.
@@leonbanks2538 I think tua has the Heisman next year
If it ain’t Joel Klatt or Chris B then I’m not clicking the video 🤷🏽♂️
Kris _____ Facts
Kris _____ I”ll throw you a like, how dare you forget about my boy STINK!!!
Big facts
Haskins carried OSU on his back, broke all records in the Big 10 and Big 10 Championship game, his number bested both the other quarterbacks numbers.
Haskins should win
This is another reason why we need a true playoff system in major college football!! Come On Man!!!!!
“Missed a couple answers”
He almost failed the exam
Joel, you keep talking about how the criteria was “which team had the higher floor” But obviously that wasn’t the criteria in 2014 when ever they put Ohio State in after they lost to Virginia Tech. My problem with the committee is that their criteria changes every single year.
So now LSU is a average team. Smh.
EbbTide >>>>>>>>>> LSU >>>>>> Georgia... UGa #15 at best...
Correct
Keith Lindsay they are average
They're actually overrated.
with 3 losses and ranked 10th. UF game was their terrible game of the season. Bama went as expected. Texas A & M is better than people think. That LSU D is nasty. Every year. Offense is there achillies heel.
When Bama blasts Oklahoma out of Miami on the 29th, Klatt will be like:
"No one is surprised by the performance. This is what Bama does. They are the greatest team we've ever seen..."
Keep giving Saban Bulletin Board material, Joel.
Bama beat 5 top 25 teams. Why everyone keeps calling their schedule/the SEC in general weak is beyond me.
Jake Owens bro it’s insane. The SEC’s 6th best team would be the 2nd best team in most conferences.
Who did Bama beat??? Bama Beat the SEC West. That's who Bama beat. oh yeah, and Georgia... they beat Georgia.
Alabama @ Georgia are good teams, period. The rest of you are overated period.
Jake Owens the committee over ranks sec teams year after year lol
@@SteveWalkerLaw5 Right. The SEC West, which has been the toughest division in college football for the last 15 years. The division where 3 different teams have won a total of 8 national championships over the last 15 years.
The sec is scared to take nonconference losses. True story
lol how you figure?
@@foghornleghorn6383 because they wont play anyone meaningful out of conference. They claim the conference is so tough that they schedule nobodies to fill out the rest of the schedules. Also, can someone explain to me Alabama playing Mercer or the citadel? Seriously? If bama is so big and bad and the poster child of the sec, they should go play games at ohio state or someone like Notre dame, they just sit at home and play weak teams outside of the sec
Before we continue, who is your team?
Who did ND play?????
Stanford, Syracuse, Pitt, Michigan, Northwestern,
KLUV Facts
They faced more ranked teams then anybody in the top four.
@@aaronvondersaar2496 False, ND played 3 (Mich, NW, Cuse) Bama played 5 (TXAM, Mizz, LSU, Miss ST, UGA)
EXACTLY! Then they get a weekend to relax while other schools are playing conference championship games.
the Hurts so Good graphic said "45-28 win over Georgia" just in case nobody else noticed
Remember when Kyler Murray played in the SEC, he had more INTs than TDs Lol but give the boy credit for playing this season on "Rookie" mode
Joel "we gotta stop giving Alabama a get out of jail free card"
Of course, that isn't true. Bama has earned its way into the championship every year. Last year, on the morning of the conference championship games, Bama was ranked #5. Two of the top 4 teams lost that day, so that moved Bama into the #4 slot. Bama didn't get a free pass. Also, they proved that they deserved getting into the playoff by winning it.
We earned it....
I agree with him 100%. Last year the Number 1 SEC team was Georgia. The number 2 SEC team was Auburn. This was determined on the field, where it matters. In not even qualifying for the SEC championship Alabama essentially became a 2 loss team. In order to slide Alabama in they had to skip over the number 2 team and grab the number 3 SEC team. Joel argues that losing your conference's championship disqualifies you and I would agree with that. So Alabama and Wisconsin are out. Ohio State had 2 losses, so they are out. Which leaves UCF for the number 4 slot. In beating Auburn (aka the team that put on a clinic for Alabama) they showed that they belonged in that game.
Steve M WTF Auburn had 3 losses last season and UCF would win 3 or 4 games if they played Alabama’s schedule
He is a dayum fool and you are a fuggin idiot for thinking that was a warranted remark. Dipshitz like you live off emotion vs logic.
Oh my god it’s so good that klatt is on here to talk some sense into everyone
Aisian ThreeQUISIANS Joel Broussard is the Chris Klatt of college basketball dude s the 🐐
Winning Big 10 title is no more significant than winning an SEC rivalry game.
Any voter who voted before the conference championship should be stripped of the vote.
The committee got the four right, but that was an easy decision. The real crime was ranking, Florida, Penn State, and LSU ahead of Washington State when the Cougars absolutely should've been in the New Year's Six after a 10-2 season. Penn State doesn't even beat the Cougs in the eye test, LSU did not play well late in the season, and Florida just lost to an 8-4 Missouri team at home. WSU's one bad loss is a well-publicized case of horrible officiating that cost them the game.
Zack I would say the bigger crime is putting Michigan in front of UCF, after OSU was considered worse than UCF.
Then OSU destroys Michigan, and apparently the last ranking was total bs because then Michigan was ahead of UCF.
Then Michigan doesn’t even play and UCF wins again, but they’re still behind Michigan.
There’s no explanation for that other than G5 vs P5.
If you’re gonna say injuries then why is Alabama #1 and not behind Clemson after losing Tua?
If you’re gonna say SOS ok yes Michigan’s is higher, but so was OSU’s and they were ranked behind UCF, so why didn’t SOS matter then?
There aren’t any head to head other than both teams beat SMU- UCF won by more.
THese are the moments that I really love Chris Carter..and even when I don't agree with him...I STILL LOVE HIM!!! Him and Unk are different and I love them both!!!!
Nick is a FS1 treasure! Since his guest spots on The Herd, been a huge fan. It's Stephen A. Smith, Colin, Jalen Rose, Chris Broussard, and Nick. My starting 5
CC really just say Haskins should stay in school another year? He’s a projected top 10 pick lmao
He was right lol dude was NOT ready
UGA was the 2nd best team in the country 2 years in a row, unfortunate
Getting blown out by LSU says otherwise.
If they were the 2nd best team in the country they wouldn't have 2 losses would they?
No one has said this at any point until they choked against Bama. It’s just the trendy statement of the week idiots keep repeating to try and look smart.
Said no one.
@@theclayishone Who else has been giving Alabama a serious run for their money for the past 2 years? (crickets chirping)...
CC probably cried in the car after the missed field goal comment by Joel 😂
"This is a prime example of why a kid should not just up and transfer " Coach Nick Saban on Jalen Hurts... C.Carter just SCOOLED Joel Klatt
School has a H in it
They made the right decision given the final season win/loss records. [ But, the four toughest teams to play today on a neutral field would be (1) Bama (2) OK (3) Georgia (4) OSU. ]
okrajoe lmao. Based off of what?
Love how Joel doesn't give bama credit for the entire season. They were by far the best team in the first half of the season and only Clemson looked close to as good down the stretch. Every other team struggled in at least 1 game. If we are gonna start judging teams by bad halves (as vs the Citadel) then pretty much no one meets that standard. Bama ends up winning by 33, and thats playing an option team after you just played 2 teams that finish ranked in the top 20 and before you play your rival. Lets forgive OK for every struggle like Army, OK St, Texan Tech and Kansas. Thank god these guys aren't scientists because we'd all still be living in the stone age with this level of reasoning.
And Nick Wright, UCF fanboy, points to bama's schedule? Bama played 4 teams that were better than anyone UCF saw. We can all agree UCF is amazing for what they are. Don't ruin it by pretending they belong in the conversation.
Bama was just as good in the 2nd half of the season, shutting out LSU and Mississippi State, beating Citadel 50-17, and Auburn 52-21. They had a bit of a letdown in the 1st half against Citadel after coming off the LSU and Mississippi State games, but they quickly recovered and dominated in the 2nd half.
@ Randy Jordan I Bama made some mistakes on offense in the LSU and Miss St games, but those are probably 2 of the top 5 defenses in the country. And I would agree that Bama was still as good in the 2nd part of the season, but Clemson played way better after the Syracuse game - granted they played a much, much easier schedule down the stretch. I tend to think the Georgia game was 75% Georgia playing really well and 25% some Bama miscues; mostly due to how good Georgia had looked since their loss.
Clay Swinson you must not know who Citadel is...........no one else does either lol. 10-10 tie with a junior high school team? Lmao
Of course they were the best team in the first half of the season--they played some really weak teams--like always. The SEC is Alabama and Georgia and the rest stink but the media overrates the entire conference every year.
Everyone knows OU doesn't have defense, yet they only lost a single game against a ranked rival (which they avenged) Bama played who besides LSU (who lost to A&M and had 70 scored on them while bama struggled to put up 30). UCF had more ranked wins and a conference championship last year while bama had neither and got in, stop that bias BS
I think Oklahoma is going to do better than alot of people think.
CC silenced the table “Tua Aced every test all year and gets a nick and people want to punish” Tua left the game, against #4 (not #14 or #21) and with a one score difference. Tua had momentum, with two first downs. Army in O.T with two picks and what’s with Purdue?
Drop ND to 5 and put UGA in their place.
Sure that would make a whole lot of sense. Put a 2 loss team ahead of an undefeated team. Not to bright.
Brandon Reilly 2 losses or 10 doesn’t matter. The 4 best should be in the playoff.
haylets ad citadel
@@sosidecop64 Loses do matter in this case. Georgia has two and ND has none. Why would you keep Clemson in and not replace them with Georgia? Do you have a good argument for that? After all ND had a tougher schedule than Clemson.
sosidecop64 why bother playing a regular season then right just go right to the playoff!!
Chris saying how will Oklahoma play against "Big Boy" football in Alabama. here's my question, OU gave up alot of points to teams that threw the ball probably at least 35-45 times a game (maybe not Texas) and their defense had issues...How do you think OU's defense will play against a team that is almost 50/50 run pass? and how will Bama's defense be in the 4th quarter when OU is pushing near 75 offensive plays?
MICHAEL THOMAS OU won’t get that many plays because Bama will run the ball down their throat and control the clock. Bama can get stops against OU’s offense, but can OU get a stop against Bama’s offense?
Yayrwe Does Texas average like 50 points a game?
Turnovers will determine the winner to my opinion, but OU can t play defense. More balanced team still is Bama sorry.
Offense will not matter if they do not get a chance to play. Ask Georgia about that National Championship game. Good luck to OU in bullying that O-Line around. They are monsters. and they are 3 deep.
Oklahoma won’t have any trouble scoring against bama, like you said their defense has to step up though. If they can hold bama to 35-42 points they’ll have a chance.
One point that should at least be mentioned in the Heisman... if we are going to consider the conference championship game, not all of these QB's are playing against the same caliber defenses. Murray played against a Texas team with a total defense ranked 68th. Haskins played a Northwestern team with a total defense ranked 62nd. And Tua played a Georgia defense ranked 13th. You can't honestly say Tua wouldn't have had a much better game and arcade numbers against a Northwestern team... Not all conference title games are created equal.
Pretty sure the final score was 35 28.🤪
Joel speaking facts and I knew Oklahoma was going to get in the playoffs because Ohio state got blown out by purdue and Georgia had another chance to beat Alabama on Saturday and they lost again
Joe Klatt is my guy. But he’s def anti SEC
CJ Bray no he’s anti favoritism point blank if you don’t win your conference championship then you don’t deserve to be in the Final 4
I don't disagree but I think he's fed up with the fact that the SEC isn't what it used to be 5-10 years ago and yet it's still paraded around as the best conference year in and year out.
hes not anti sec he is fair. his evaluation of how Alabama is treated in rankings is accurate.
Yayrwe if you’re talking Paul Finebaum, I 100% agree with you
Haha yea he really is. I understand that people wanna see parity and other conferences represented but what conference is better? people really want to just try to force the Big 10 on everybody and it sucks lol. It’s Ohio State and then everybody else in that conference.
Klatt needs his own show.
Hey, Chris and Nick -- when are you guys going to start talking about Clemson's easy schedule every year? They play nobody all season long and walk into the playoffs! This goes on every year! They get a free pass into the playoffs because there is no competition in the ACC. Clemson has it easier than every other team out there. Do a show on that!
They acting like bama was losing bad. Score was 28-21 when Jalen came in. Now compare that to when Tua came in last yr 13-0, offense couldn’t do anything. They were talking about bama being one of the best teams of all time, why because they finally had a qb. Joel Klatt just a hater
Jalen Hurts is a QB. He just had a really bad first half against Georgia in the natty game last year. Part of that is on Georgia too. Just like last year once again this year they dominated Bama in the first half and then fell off in the second.
4th and 11 play will b what he’s remembered for no doubt
That's what I thought jole kept saying bama was down by 14 when Jalen came in I'm happy for Jalen I'm a big fan of his but who's to say tua doesn't score on the drive he got hurt and leads bama to a come back then they would be saying tua ran off with the Heisman
@@luciouslee1166 Sorry man...but over the totality of the game Georgia had Tua's number bro...
Come on Man it was a game they were favored by 14. And Tua got exposed. Injury or not Tua needed his backup to save the game. Shouldn't have been even a deficit at that point.
The committee technically got it right, but georgia is a top 4 team period.
so why didn't he mention anything about ND, they don't have a Conf Champ game. does that mean they would never get into the playoffs?
The 2 strongest teams already played and now Alabama will breeze through what's left!
Notre Dame gets so much hate
Yes we do
By not being in a conference, they avoid a huge step. A conference championship game. That's unfair to everyone else.
@@tylerpifer5966 yeah, if they were in a conference championship they might have had to play a team like Northwestern! They couldn't have beaten Northwestern!
Jacob Roenker cause nobody respects them
It's the only way they can get in. Work the system and fake it till you make it. Absurd! Play one less big game then everyone and they are in, complete joke to everyone who actually battles.
Klatt is ridiculous saying we have to quit giving Bama a free pass... beating everyone on your schedule by 20 and then barely losing to the no. 4 team in the country isn’t a free pass lol the hate for the SEC is unreal 😂
He's talking about 2011 and last year when Alabama was gifted spots despite weak resumes.
He's a smart guy - the day he gets contracted to cover an SEC game that will change
Bama buys all the best players
@Broken King And as we know Alabama is the wealthiest state which is why they can pay more than everyone else. /s Every single large college program operates by the same rules, whether thats paying players or any other factor.
@@clay1678 Alabama is more College than State at this point. Everything revenue in that state has some hand with college football. Thus the failing and dismantling of the RollTide would lead to inevitable downfall of that state, yes, state. What money does go into alabama, at least 25% is college funds/maintenence
The playoff committee didnt nail anything. It used to be about quality wins. Rob mullens said Ga, OU, and OSU were all very comparable so then by rule they were supposed to ho to tie breakers (conf championships) Big 10 championship should have been the tie breaker to be ranked ahead of GA. Making rules up as they go
Thanks Cris Carter! Let's stop this resume mess when it comes to bama schedule! Roll Tide!
Alabama will put 50 on Ok
Half the teams Oklahoma played this year put 50 on them. What's so earth shattering about your claim?
yea but ou might get 51
"Against who," Joel? Alabama has played and beaten five teams that are ranked in the CFP Top 25. That's more than any school in college football! Sure...we've also played some JV teams, but that doesn't negate the fact that we also played some real competition. And an average LSU squad? The same average LSU squad that beat Georgia in the regular season by three touchdowns? And here's something else: Alabama is the only school in the playoffs that has beaten someone who was ranked in the Top 5 at some point in the season. They beat #3 LSU at Tiger Stadium and #4 Georgia in the SEC Championship Game. So to say we haven't played anyone is completely asinine.
Preach it, with all the non-ranked teams BAMA destrroyed them, with all the ranked teams they beat them. What more do you want?
The truth shall set you free
It's easy to keep top players healthy when half of your schedule is against teams nobody has ever heard of. Not to mention Citadel tying until halftime... Second half blowout is simply due to depth of their roster.
The man is a clueless, wannabe hater. Get a haircut......Joeel.
Miss. State. Texas A&M. We’re both GIFTED top 25 rankings based on beating no one, and putting up a fight against the so called good teams. KY is ranked high and lost to Mizzu. And still ranked. SMH
Joel talking about Citadel like the Citadel is a joke. Teams gonna have a problem against the Triple Option when they don't see it alot. Easy to be prepare for a Spread or Balanced but a Triple Option is hard
You are right, except the fact that they are FCS...I think that would make them like a Louisiana-Monroe level team. Now to be fair, teams struggle against worse teams all the time, but I think the first half was one of the worst performances by Alabama this century...
Joel needs to run this show.
ND should get thumped by Clemson but time will tell. That's why they play the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol yea that's why they play the game. smdh
everyone says Kyler is better because his defense sucks but if it wasn't for his defense against West Virginia they would have lost. he was also the reason Texas with 3 turnovers. he avenged his lost but also on his defense saved them on more than one occasion
he wasn't the best QB against Texas twice,and against WV.defense stood up.
but that conference game was really good to watch,then bama Georgia did it again with a nail biter.
Jalen came in at 7 points down, NOT 14!!! Also, Tua is the only 13-0 QB this season!
However, Kyler Murray should win it.
Joel klatt really hates the sec
If Tua's receivers caught all their balls that hit them in the chest in the first half, he would have had over 200 passing yards and 2 TD's most likely and still went out and not played much of the 4th lol...
Georgia being ahead of Ohio state is absurd. But Tua will probably win it because the Heisman is a media driven award and we’ve been getting him thrown down our throats all season long. If you wanted to be objective it should be Dwayne or Kyler because both guys have had to carry their teams and have ridiculous numbers.
Georgia's strength of schedule was tougher. UGA lost to LSU at LSU by 26. Ohio State lost to Purdue at Purdue by 29. UGA had to Beat the #1 team in the country to get in. OSU had to play Northwestern. OSU had some tough games but that Purdue loss was unforgivable. UGA was the better team between ND, OU, & OSU. UGA is still sitting at home though. You can't lose 2.
UGA overall is better than OSU. They would win by 30 vs Purdue and Maryland, be logic nit emotional.
@@vincentsenecal3273 I just checked with the Committee. They said "Yes. That is correct."
Vincent Senecal if Ohio st were to play Purdue again they’d be favored and most likely win that game as would Georgia. I also don’t disagree w you that Georgia is one of the four best teams I think Ohio st and Georgia are better teams than OU and ND but the committee went w deserving over best this year
Fish Hook actually Ohio state strength of record was ahead of Georgia
Another point on this joke of an analyst. The Heisman is awarded to the BEST PLAYER, not the MOST IMPORTANT. The playoff commitee's job is to put in the BEST 4 TEAMS, not to determine what their "floors" were. How did you get your job? What a F joke.
Joel Klatt could be completely wrong and still kinda make sense at the same time. Such an itelligent guy who truthfully does his homework. He needs his own show!
No, Tua didn't have his best game but it was against one of the best defenses in the country and playing with injuries. Murray is great but his stats are less impressive when done against teams with the worst defenses in the country.
Should’ve been
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
SMH 🤦♂️
Sports Sidelined I agree, best 4 teams, but Ohio state wasn’t able to prove it so I can’t complain.
Lmfao it doesn’t matter if Notre Dame didn’t have a hard schedule or not. Usually they have one of the tougher ones, they got unlucky Stanford and USC weren’t top teams. But to say Ohio State should be over them. They shouldn’t even be in the discussion. They lost by 29 to Purdue! You should instantly be eliminated because of that one game. They beat Maryland by 1 when they really should’ve lost if the QB didn’t miss the wide open receiver to win the game. Btw they gave up 51 to MARYLAND! The only good win on the entire schedule is Michigan and we know they’re the most overrated team in maybe history of college football. Not a top 10 team let alone #4. That’s their resume! Beating Northwestern for the conference? Lmfao how can you with a straight face say that resume is good enough to get in? They’re so overrated it’s not even funnyn
Ohio state would beat ND by 14+
Sports Sidelined u should work for the committee lol Great top 4
Spenser Casart lmfao with what defense? They gave up 51 to Maryland. They might do that if they score 70
If Alabama had lost to Georgia, they absolutely should NOT have made the playoffs - Clemson & Notre Dame get in, then you have 4 teams with the same records (Bama, Ohio State, Oklahoma & Georgia)... Bama being the team from that list with a) the weakest overall schedule faced and b) no power 5 conference title - plus a head to head loss to Georgia.
No doubt at all they would've been given a shot at the playoffs anyway. Thankfully it didn't come down to that farcical situation.
TUA for HEISMAN! he was never 100% since ARK. game, and defenses are trying to injure him. because he dominates them. sec defenses are far better than big 12...little 12 more like it with pathetic defenses...DA! wonder why K. MURRAY IS SO IMPRESSIVE...there is your answer. no defenses and run up the score intentionally, and to save your OU pathetic defenses tails. UGA is the better team, politics got notre damm in, and ohio state, has purdue nightmare! what TUA and his defense did to LSU, ON there home field, was evident of greatness, and dominance.
Gotta love how they just ignore that ND gets to play on without that 13th win that the rest of the field has on their resume.
im no Bama fan... AT ALL.. but jesus Joe. maybe not let the Bama envy show so much. its pretty sad.
Haskins should win. Plays against teams that have defense and his stats are not padded.
Jose Vega rofl his stats are very padded . They keep throwing at the end of games kyler just hands the ball off or is pulled and tua isn’t even in .
It's either Haskins or Murray. It won't be Tua.
Super padded with that weak run game.
Ohio State has played enough cupcakes to have diabetes.
Craig Walker I get your point, but as an Ohio State fan, they kept throwing because they couldn’t run the ball and the games were still close- he didn’t have as many no stress throws as Tua did, and I feel like if every voter would’ve waited for Championship weekend, Tua would’ve lost the Heisman this weekend, not because he got hurt, but more so because he struggled while he was in, I think Kyler will win it because everyone knows for a fact that he will be gone next year and Haskins will most likely be back, and I believe Tua has to stay another year, but Haskins has kind of be taken for granted by everyone, him and Kyler have comparable total yards, total touchdowns, both being on teams that you have to outscore opponents, it’s just that Kyler gets those insane highlight worthy runs whereas Haskins just sits in the pocket and tears you apart, but all three have had fantastic seasons and I don’t think Tua will be all that hurt winning a National Championship and losing the Heisman possibly to the guy he has a chance to eliminate in the first round of the playoff
I think you could argue any of the three winning the Heisman but if you talk about anyone having a highest ceiling in the NFL other than Haskins you're not watching enough football or have some serious bias.
Unfortunately I can’t watch this video because I don’t speak GOAT. Klatt is the man
Oh...Joel Klatt had a problem with OSU not getting in. What a shocker.
Don’t lose by 29 to Purdue.
Typical Bama hater. I love it.
Martin Dawson no he didn’t...
Sec fan but tua got the greatest coach ever,a good defense,and a stable of running backs, while Oklahoma really just got there quarterback
Melvin Henderson I disagree. Look at the weapons in Hollywood, ceedee, calcatera, and sermon that Kyler has around him. OU’s defense has stepped up with big time plays in big time games. I think this OU-Bama game will be a better game than people think.
Ronson Lee i was talking about the heisman and Oklahoma defense is garbage
Melvin Henderson and the best o line in the nation and a biletnikoff receiver and he’s just part of an amazing receiving corps. And some 4 and 5 star backs but ya I agree it’s all Kyler
Oklahoma has nearly three 1000 yard rushers. Not too shabby.
Oklahoma's defense is terrible, but we had a stable of running backs which is down to the last few because of injuries.. Still good though.. We've got a couple of WR who will go in the top few rounds.. Alabama definitely has the edge in talent, but I just don't want to give Kyler all the credit.. We've got some legit dudes. CeeDee Lamb may be the next Odell.
Congrats to Kyler Murray for winning the heisman can’t see it any other way
Personally, I would take Haskins because as a sophomore in college, I see the best presence in the pocket of any QB out there, even amongst the pros.
Tua lost the Heisman when he stunk up the first half against Georgia.....
He played really poorly, but his receivers didn't help.
What happened when Tua left the game, they still won.
OU and OSU idk if they win vs a good team if they go down mid game.
Heisman is Kyler vs Haskins IMO
He played the whole game with a high ankle sprain though, that should be considered.
Good point also
greysaku threw two picks and still got less picks than Murray
His citadel/ bama argument makes him difficult to take serious.
Look for yourself: cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13451227/Screen_Shot_2018_11_17_at_1.29.44_PM.png
Bama isn’t going to play all out against a small school like that. Got to save your players for the biggest two games of the year.
Lmao for real. Especially since Clemson almost choked to Syracuse and Ohio State got blown out by an unranked team lol. All teams have a rough day at some point.
And if we apply that same criteria to every other team they look even worse.
@@leonbanks2538 how would you like it if your starting qb gets knocked out. 🤷♀️
Loved Chris Carter's take on Tua for the Heisman. Great debate, awesome segment!
Either way about the Heisman is ok with me, I would much rather Alabama win a team trophy instead of a single player trophy
Alabama & Georgia played a good game. Look GEORGIA PLAYED A TOUGHER SCHEDULE! Than even Alabama! Georgia played more ranked team too. And no doubt is a top 3 team. No way Oklahoma is better than Georgia.
No way Oklahoma gets blown out by LSU.
drwinstonOboogi No way we give up an average 45 point per games
@@gray2004 we? lol who do you play for?
Georgia did not play more ranked teams. They both played 5 ranked teams.
UGA: Missouri, LSU, Bama, UK, UF
Bama: UGA, LSU, A&M, Missouri, Mississippi State
Georgia'best win? they dont get credit for losing to bama and lsu
OU and ND are in over their heads.
lol who is team? ND earn it to be in the playoffs.
ND for sure. I get ND is undefeated, but against their schedule this year they should be. The ACC is incredibly weak this year, they played a very down USC and Stanford team. Their best win is against Syracuse and a Michigan team that hadn't found its identity? Could ND go into Happy Valley and win? Could they hang with OU or OSU's offense?
It may be unpopular opinion but ND looked very average this year against very middling teams. They are going to get destroyed.
@@w3txwnm8v3n earned it maybe, but still not a top 3 team in the nation. Maybe they shock us. The games still have to be played.
OU is going to shock the world!!!
@@rdot980 everyone said OU was in over their heads last year against Georgia to
Kyler by far the greatest player in the nation this year! It’s not even close at ALL
Kyler of the three is the biggest success in the NFL as of 2022.
I think both Haskins and Tua should stay in college one more year! Tua is not ready!
he's a sophomore
Haskins there’s a lot of room to improve for Haskins but he needs to go. This is such a weak qb draft, and I don’t know if he can statistically play better than he did this year.
Simply wow
ivan salazar sigh... armchair expert can you please read up eligibility for the nfl draft before you try to sound smart. Leave football to the adults kid
haters Alabama played the fifth toughest schedule in the country, and until the sec champ game, they only trailed for something like 7 plays the entire season. The argument that Alabama hasnt played anyone is not valid.
Adam Berendt no they did not! That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all year
7 years later and he's still mad about LSU Bama rematch.
Georgia absolutely belongs in the top 4. Does GA deserve a shot with 2 losses absolutely not and I’m a GA fan. But is GA one of the top 4 teams? Absolutely no question GA belongs if the goal is to put the 4 best in. Joel is only speaking the 3 most deserving
I don't see how Tua is better than Kyler. Was never challenged a single time all year because their defense was so dominant other teams just didn't score on them, then the one time he actually was challenged against Georgia he wasn't very good.
Harry Garris I agree in that I think Kyler should win, but Tua’s performance wasn’t as bad as I originally thought. His receivers dropped four passes - one a TD, the other 39 yards. Also, he suffered a high ankle sprain in the first quarter, so that definitely affected his performance.
@@austingeorge2814 Yeah not terrible just bad by the standards of the "best QB in college football". Tua's really good, but Kyler clearly has to do so much more for that Oklahoma team to have any chance of winning. Kyler has much better numbers, significantly higher degree of difficulty, and a much larger responsibility to his team. The argument for Tua is just his team is really good and never loses.
He was hurt
Harry Garris are you dumb? Tua has played 4 defenses that are better than Kyler’s greatest challenge. Auburn, LSU, Miss State, and Georgia are all ranked Top 25 in the nation in defense.
Harry Garris Yeah. I think we both agree Murray slightly edged him (although my teams are Alabama and Stanford). I’m just not holding the SEC championship against Tua. They should’ve put Hurts in earlier; Tua was grimacing in pain.
That game showed that Alabama would still be 13-0 with Hurts.
Oklahoma had 3 wins by less than 5 and a win in overtime. Without Murray, Oklahoma might’ve been a 7-5 team. That’s why I think he should win.
Let kyler play against SEC defense see how he doing. Please dont hate tua cause he better. If tua play the schedule like Kyler does, tua would 1000 yards a game
I guess if Kyler played the 58th ranked schedule that Tua did, Kyler would have a quarter million a game.
Say smart stuff.
Quang Nguyen you were missing some words in there bud
drwinstonOboogi Tua is overrated dude he has the best team a good defense and y’all played nobody’s sit down.
Oh yeah those same mighty SEC defenses that also give up 30ppg or better yet, give up 50ppg to Alabama. Yeah those amazing teams. I mean, the best defense in that conference besides Alabama was LSU, whom gave up 70 pts to Miss State. so yeah, let's stop acting like the SEC is dominant. open your eyes already. The only defense in the conference is Alabama.
3:36
Klatt: 'but against who?'
Carter, 'whoever was on their schedule.'
That dumb argument applies equally to UCF. Way to go.
I'm a Bama fan and want Tua to win, but agree that OU would be trash without him. It would be much more difficult for us without Tua, but we still would have a great chance.
Why is Haskins STILL getting no love he gets 2 compliments for breaking B1G CONEFRENCE RECORDS. Tua did something saban never thought and Murray is Mayfield 2.0...... Haskins is the best of the three
against fbs schools yes we know. Citidal tied at half
Lol I never take Alabama serious they play division 3 schools all year
How do you feel about them when they win titles?
And they continue to rack up the championships in the process.
LSU, Georgia, Missouri, Texas A&M?
Nate Pehrson nothing
Ronald Womack your mother does
So much hate for the SEC Joel Klatt, who did you play for, was it Colorado ? Get over your hate for the SEC Joel...Tua still deserves the Heisman, winning the Heisman is about your whole body of work, he has played well and put up great stats all year, and he had a high ankle sprain in the SEC game,,, and still dealing with his knee...all this hate is very unbecoming,,,
The only problem I have with Joel’s take on Alabama is that you shouldn’t be more punished for a late loss than a loss in the middle portion of the year. Also, I love 4 teams. It makes seemingly every game count. 8 teams is way too many.
klatt is biased for the Slow ten
The CFP committee got it right. It’s arguably that Georgia is the second best team in football but they don’t deserve a rematch.
I'm a Georgia fan and I agree. I want us to be there. We had our chance and we blew it. If we wanted in we should have won. We didn't. I am glad they acknowledged the 4th best teams aren't in the playoffs but this 1-4 makes the most sense.
I don’t believe in giving a rematch in the CFP in most cases. It would be fine if Georgia lost to BAMA in September but not last week.
How is Bama the best team in football? Even Saban ranked Clemson at number one after this weekend, just based off the eye test and game results Clemson looks to be the best team
тим Saban is just being humble and sending a message to his team. Plus, who has Clemson beat? BAMA just beat #4 Georgia.
@@Rathkan he rather play Notre dame instead of the Sooners
It was 7 down not 14. Get it right.
Chris Carter doesn't like Joel. You can tell.