Sometimes when it comes to brieg I've gotten sometimes weird and sort of clashing advice. "Stay in backline and protect the other supports, make sure your procing inspire by going to the front line" sometimes it feels like you just end up I nthe front line because hey inspire is procing 😀 but then you're not in the proper position people often say you need to be
The whole proccing inspire advice isn't normally to physically go TO the frontline, you have a whipshot that hits from range. You use that to hit the frontline from a distance to fill in the gaps in inspire
@@mr.parker8014 what would be done if the shot is missed? Just make sure to like reserve at least one HP pack? Not saying the ship shot takes a long time to cool down anyways lol
I stopped playing Brig in metal ranks, unless we're facing aggressive dive and I'm guaranteed to have value just by denying their dives. Because more often than not, that Ana you double pack in the back is gonna miss all her cooldowns, peak Widow, shoot into deflect or die of old age. Nope, thanks.
Lucio is equally is unplayable in low ranks. Speed feels super strong but if your team never uses it to disengage from losing fights you're just worse Bap.
this feels so tailor made for me that it's scary. I gotta say another thing to mention is that they seem to bash in on full HP targets. This is terrible in most cases as you put yourself in the open to get melted without a mobility tool to escape. When you proc inspire do it where you know you aren't without options to survive.
I've honestly always have wanted to get a game reviewed, but I am very sensitive to putting my gameplay on a live platform for others to see. I ain't the best player and I have been trying to get better for years now.
Emongg is great for this, while he may crack the occasional joke he doesn't really flame people and gives helpful advice. His chat isn't as bad as other streamers and won't attack you really, just give it a shot. You won't be able to learn and grow otherwise
I recommend posting to the r/OverwatchUniversity subreddit if you want to be reviewed by a smaller audience! Of course, it isn’t Emongg doing it but there are a lot of GM players who can give free detailed reviews on your replay. I’ve posted a few times and it’s really helpful!
@@Starsoftheheavens I know he is and I understand his chat won't flame me much either, but I am still quite insecure about my games. That is just something I am personally trying to work on in my life.
If you haven't done it before, I highly recommend just watching your own gameplay in the replay viewer. I guarantee that you will notice things you didn't during the game. It's a lot easier when you're not busy playing. If you don't know where to start, just look at all your deaths. Try and think if there was anything you could do to avoid it or not. Work on from there. It's ok to say idk, and look at the next thing.
Aweee sweetpea, dont be afraid ❤❤ we all start somewhere and I guarantee there's people out there who can learn from YOUR mistakes which helps them in the long run❤ you got this!! Submit a vod!!
"How is this masters" comments are so exaggerated. Like did they even watch the video? The brig is not bad. She was doing okay. It's just that she didn't get the most out of her.
I just started learning her, and I spent my first hour or so playing her against Hard AI Bots. That way I could get a feel for her without a lot on the line!
i used to play brig but didn’t know what to do as her. i feel like the best way to play a character is to watch a lot of guides about them and try to apply them as much as possible to your gameplay during the first games. after a bit the stuff said in the guides will be subconsciously ingrained in your brain and you’ll do what the guides say without realizing it.
Brig is definitely very hard to play! not only is most of her skill required invested in strategy and micro decision making, skills that the vast majority of players, even up to the highest ranks, generally lack, but she's also very squishy but prefers risky positions. but here's some advice I dont think Jay really talks about here, or hardly anyoke tbh. Brig is an off tank as much as she is a support. if you remember what role off tanks held in ow1, think of Brig like that but with healing. Brig is great at protecting teammates individually so your main tank can focus on holding the frontline and taking space, or Brig is also good at bolstering your frontline by helping your main tank hold the frontline or take space. you are support reinhardt, in almost every single sense of the word. you are a shieldmaiden. Brig is at her best when she is at a teammates side, bolstering their efforts. if ever you play Brig and feel like you arent achieving anything, chances are good you arent playing with a teammate, or your teammates are abandoning you when you do. always play around your teammates, always be looking for enemies to take space away from you dont have to be next to a teammate either. I had a great match where my tank, wrecking ball, had the job of harassing their backline, while I held off the Reinhardt. because I kept the Reinhardt distracted, my Hammond had free reign to make the rest of their team incapable of making progress. and that was us nearly 2v5'ing, when are teammates were done pushing the objective up to us, they took advantage of the chaos and wrecked house. this match started with our team getting steam rolled by the way all the way back to spawn, so it wasnt like the enemy team was just that much worse, we just shifted our strategy and dominated there after. tldr; Brig is support Reinhardt. play aroujd your teammates and bolster their efforts, and you'll be doing better than most Brig's
I needed this. I main Zen but my favorite character to play is Brig but I don’t always know what to do with her and similar to this guy I feel like I’m doing nothing if I’m not in the frontlines.
Honestly what I found a bit jarring in this gameplay is the amount of time he just holds on to whip shot against a comp that doesn't need whip shot readily available. It also doesn't help that 2/3 of his whip shots are aimed at nothing or a hero that can easily avoid it. Whip shot is the most common way to proc inspire on brig and its up time is criminally low because of this. His whip shot accuracy is also quite bad, he should look for easy targets to proc inspire against, generally agressive or predictable enemy heroes. He ends up wasting a lot of armor packs because without inspire, his team is lacking a lot of healing. His play style makes way more sense against a Winston dive where you need the boop to prevent the Winston to jump on highground and killing your backline, but against a rein comp that can't really dive you, whip shot should almost always be used as soon as a good inspire opportunity shows up, to make you team more sturdy, increase their uptime and charge your ult quicker. Even then, against a dive comp he should play closer to his Ana.
Okay, so I’m a Brig player and I am working on not being so aggressive. I have been working on protecting my other support but not every support is easy to protect as Brig. Like if a Kirko who tps a lot or a Mercy who is in the air major of the time. Any suggestions?
If your other support does something stupid, and you can't save them. That isn't your fault. The big takeaway is that if someone does something stupid, don't die trying to save them. I do that too often.
Either pick a DPS to protect (pretend your widow is now a tank/ect). Or look at your support line and pick a different support. Brig+ana is a classic combo, and the main reason is that ana can solo heal the team if kept alive /not bothered. Mercy is mainly there to keep a DPS alive /not heal the tank, so brig+mercy is not a high healing comp.
It’s crazy that they say them being on the car made them feel useless lol that’s the whole point of the objective. I love using brig and her defense is really good forcing ppl to approach
Admittedly Rein is the hardest Tank to get Inspire against. He's very tough to find good moments to whip shot him and if you get too close he'll always swing on you and win that every time.
I don't have the best qualifications, but as a diamond brig otp, I also have struggled with this, especially reins who prioritize shielding over damage (or straight up shield botting) my recommendation is always be looking for his fire strikes, as it gives the perfect window of opportunity to whipshot him and keep inspire up. Besides that, just look for other enemies in the front line that you could whipshot instead to proc inspire off of. Hope this helps!!
its a good habit to have as brig bc keeping your flail swinging like that can lead to accidental dmg thatll proc inspire that you normally wouldnt have got
I think they LOVE playing Brig so much and the playstyle they have are 2 completely different things, they constantly do the "cool" stuff like spamming melee so much for no reason other to remind them they are playing Brig. But the way they play screams I want to heal from a distance, I think if they played a different support that playstyle will gel more. There's no shame one tricking I'm somewhat guilty of that but if I was their tank and I looked back at the replay and saw my Bring spamming her melee in the open and letting me get charged into a wall I would lose my mind. Why play Brig when you just stand there while the tank gets jumped??
As a diamond brig only Im pretty good in managing packs but when i play against poke comps and miss a whip i try to activate inspire(out of necessity)i do silly things and die.it feels like every evry whip matters.any tips? Should i foucous on staying alive or take risk to activate inspire?
@@Najib_Opwhip is on like a 7 second cooldown so I suppose you should just play it safe and wait for cd although if it's safe to go in then you can do a bash or a normal hit
about @14:10 the "your Ana, your Ana" bit, their Ana was fine at that point. I keep seeing the brig spin around, and I'm assuming it's to check on their teammates since you don't get that handy status bar at the top. You're absolutely right about a lot of this, but I don't think the right play can be "focus on Ana to the exclusion of everything else"
I only got to 6 minutes before making this comment, but it looks like this guy is waiting to move into space that has already been taken. Brig is a tank hybrid, which means you do tank things. you take space, and defend your teammates. this entire time, it looks like he's playing Mercy without damage boost. there were several moments where the tank was anti'd and nearly dead, where he could have jumped in and gave his Mauga breathing room, or protected his Ana. either or, those are Brig's favorite teammates, support number 2 and the tank. she lives and breathes off playing with those 2 teammates. you're playing support Reinhardt, you need to get in peoples face to get the best value, ie.pressuring enemies (and proccing inspire)
Yea, they are just swinging the air from widow maker range the entire game just spectating. i understand its like rein that you should just swing constantly BUT they are from 3x swing range, not behind any corners the whole game, out in the open across the map no sombra and just sitting there lol. he hit like 5 primary's the whole game probably, he hit more whip shots than primarys
@@Forest_Strikerliterally one game. You have bad games, I have bad games. Its ridiculous that OW players flame people off of one game or one play 😂 Listen to the commentary. He litteraly explains the logic perfectly.
@@BrazenBull91 yea for sure I know it happens and I rarely flame in chat and just deal with it go next but this player almost made it look like they were trying to lose the game lol. I counted their hits and it was like 31 primary 32 whip shots and 12 shield bashes. For a masters comp game you have to try and lose to get these numbers
Tf do you mean smh 🤦♂️ She played fine. Could do better, but still okay overall. You can tell it's master by how the other team are denying her value to begin with....
That's kinda how a lot of high level brig is supposed to be played. As emongg stated, you play in the back with your other support (if it's something like Ana or Zen who have low survivability) and protect them.
Well, you're still gold because you can't tell the difference between gold and masters gameplay. You need to identify the differences and implement changes to your gameplay.
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Sometimes when it comes to brieg I've gotten sometimes weird and sort of clashing advice. "Stay in backline and protect the other supports, make sure your procing inspire by going to the front line" sometimes it feels like you just end up I nthe front line because hey inspire is procing 😀 but then you're not in the proper position people often say you need to be
that's why whipshot is so good, you can proc inspire while still staying behind
The whole proccing inspire advice isn't normally to physically go TO the frontline, you have a whipshot that hits from range. You use that to hit the frontline from a distance to fill in the gaps in inspire
@@mr.parker8014 what would be done if the shot is missed? Just make sure to like reserve at least one HP pack? Not saying the ship shot takes a long time to cool down anyways lol
There's basically 2 playstyles to brig and the best brig players know how and when to juggle both
To be a good brig you need to know how to position and play, your playstyle heavily changes depending on your team and the enemy composition.
I stopped playing Brig in metal ranks, unless we're facing aggressive dive and I'm guaranteed to have value just by denying their dives. Because more often than not, that Ana you double pack in the back is gonna miss all her cooldowns, peak Widow, shoot into deflect or die of old age. Nope, thanks.
die of old age 😭
die of old age is crazy
LMAOOOO 😂
How does “die of old age” translate to in-game?
Self-deletion?
Lucio is equally is unplayable in low ranks. Speed feels super strong but if your team never uses it to disengage from losing fights you're just worse Bap.
this feels so tailor made for me that it's scary. I gotta say another thing to mention is that they seem to bash in on full HP targets. This is terrible in most cases as you put yourself in the open to get melted without a mobility tool to escape. When you proc inspire do it where you know you aren't without options to survive.
the left clicks also a sombra check if there is one so its kinda instilled unless youre crossing an area
I've honestly always have wanted to get a game reviewed, but I am very sensitive to putting my gameplay on a live platform for others to see. I ain't the best player and I have been trying to get better for years now.
Emongg is great for this, while he may crack the occasional joke he doesn't really flame people and gives helpful advice. His chat isn't as bad as other streamers and won't attack you really, just give it a shot. You won't be able to learn and grow otherwise
I recommend posting to the r/OverwatchUniversity subreddit if you want to be reviewed by a smaller audience! Of course, it isn’t Emongg doing it but there are a lot of GM players who can give free detailed reviews on your replay. I’ve posted a few times and it’s really helpful!
@@Starsoftheheavens I know he is and I understand his chat won't flame me much either, but I am still quite insecure about my games. That is just something I am personally trying to work on in my life.
If you haven't done it before, I highly recommend just watching your own gameplay in the replay viewer. I guarantee that you will notice things you didn't during the game. It's a lot easier when you're not busy playing. If you don't know where to start, just look at all your deaths. Try and think if there was anything you could do to avoid it or not. Work on from there. It's ok to say idk, and look at the next thing.
Aweee sweetpea, dont be afraid ❤❤ we all start somewhere and I guarantee there's people out there who can learn from YOUR mistakes which helps them in the long run❤ you got this!! Submit a vod!!
Also I love the dood in chat asking for a shout out in the middle of a replay lmao
Take a shot every time he says 'proc inspire'😵
"How is this masters" comments are so exaggerated. Like did they even watch the video? The brig is not bad. She was doing okay. It's just that she didn't get the most out of her.
I've always wanted to learn Brig but she seems like such a difficult support to play- maybe one day!
I just started learning her, and I spent my first hour or so playing her against Hard AI Bots. That way I could get a feel for her without a lot on the line!
i used to play brig but didn’t know what to do as her. i feel like the best way to play a character is to watch a lot of guides about them and try to apply them as much as possible to your gameplay during the first games. after a bit the stuff said in the guides will be subconsciously ingrained in your brain and you’ll do what the guides say without realizing it.
@@LillianArnold-pd6gzthat's how I do it to
Brig is definitely very hard to play! not only is most of her skill required invested in strategy and micro decision making, skills that the vast majority of players, even up to the highest ranks, generally lack, but she's also very squishy but prefers risky positions.
but here's some advice I dont think Jay really talks about here, or hardly anyoke tbh. Brig is an off tank as much as she is a support. if you remember what role off tanks held in ow1, think of Brig like that but with healing. Brig is great at protecting teammates individually so your main tank can focus on holding the frontline and taking space, or Brig is also good at bolstering your frontline by helping your main tank hold the frontline or take space. you are support reinhardt, in almost every single sense of the word. you are a shieldmaiden. Brig is at her best when she is at a teammates side, bolstering their efforts. if ever you play Brig and feel like you arent achieving anything, chances are good you arent playing with a teammate, or your teammates are abandoning you when you do. always play around your teammates, always be looking for enemies to take space away from
you dont have to be next to a teammate either. I had a great match where my tank, wrecking ball, had the job of harassing their backline, while I held off the Reinhardt. because I kept the Reinhardt distracted, my Hammond had free reign to make the rest of their team incapable of making progress. and that was us nearly 2v5'ing, when are teammates were done pushing the objective up to us, they took advantage of the chaos and wrecked house. this match started with our team getting steam rolled by the way all the way back to spawn, so it wasnt like the enemy team was just that much worse, we just shifted our strategy and dominated there after.
tldr; Brig is support Reinhardt. play aroujd your teammates and bolster their efforts, and you'll be doing better than most Brig's
bystander brig
Me as a rien on payload "so we not playing the tank fortress game?"
i can’t believe brioche forgot what to do 😔😔😔
I think you should keep your Ana alive.
I also think you should proc Inspire
I needed this. I main Zen but my favorite character to play is Brig but I don’t always know what to do with her and similar to this guy I feel like I’m doing nothing if I’m not in the frontlines.
Honestly what I found a bit jarring in this gameplay is the amount of time he just holds on to whip shot against a comp that doesn't need whip shot readily available. It also doesn't help that 2/3 of his whip shots are aimed at nothing or a hero that can easily avoid it. Whip shot is the most common way to proc inspire on brig and its up time is criminally low because of this. His whip shot accuracy is also quite bad, he should look for easy targets to proc inspire against, generally agressive or predictable enemy heroes. He ends up wasting a lot of armor packs because without inspire, his team is lacking a lot of healing.
His play style makes way more sense against a Winston dive where you need the boop to prevent the Winston to jump on highground and killing your backline, but against a rein comp that can't really dive you, whip shot should almost always be used as soon as a good inspire opportunity shows up, to make you team more sturdy, increase their uptime and charge your ult quicker. Even then, against a dive comp he should play closer to his Ana.
watching this after I rage quit now I want to go play brig... thanks emongg
Okay, so I’m a Brig player and I am working on not being so aggressive. I have been working on protecting my other support but not every support is easy to protect as Brig. Like if a Kirko who tps a lot or a Mercy who is in the air major of the time. Any suggestions?
If your other support does something stupid, and you can't save them. That isn't your fault. The big takeaway is that if someone does something stupid, don't die trying to save them. I do that too often.
Either pick a DPS to protect (pretend your widow is now a tank/ect).
Or look at your support line and pick a different support. Brig+ana is a classic combo, and the main reason is that ana can solo heal the team if kept alive /not bothered. Mercy is mainly there to keep a DPS alive /not heal the tank, so brig+mercy is not a high healing comp.
It’s crazy that they say them being on the car made them feel useless lol that’s the whole point of the objective. I love using brig and her defense is really good forcing ppl to approach
10:35 in situation like this, it’s definitely not brig’s duty to heal the tank which is a mile away from Ana
Please review more vods outside of metal ranks.
Admittedly Rein is the hardest Tank to get Inspire against. He's very tough to find good moments to whip shot him and if you get too close he'll always swing on you and win that every time.
I don't have the best qualifications, but as a diamond brig otp, I also have struggled with this, especially reins who prioritize shielding over damage (or straight up shield botting) my recommendation is always be looking for his fire strikes, as it gives the perfect window of opportunity to whipshot him and keep inspire up. Besides that, just look for other enemies in the front line that you could whipshot instead to proc inspire off of. Hope this helps!!
@@SOLAR367 Thanks great advice. Yeah I find slower DPS are always a good target; Reaper, Mei, etc.
The left click thing is driving me nuts 😂
its a good habit to have as brig bc keeping your flail swinging like that can lead to accidental dmg thatll proc inspire that you normally wouldnt have got
@74769 I get the reasoning but my god is it obnoxious to watch. I do it in short bursts but not the whole entire game lol
I think they LOVE playing Brig so much and the playstyle they have are 2 completely different things, they constantly do the "cool" stuff like spamming melee so much for no reason other to remind them they are playing Brig. But the way they play screams I want to heal from a distance, I think if they played a different support that playstyle will gel more. There's no shame one tricking I'm somewhat guilty of that but if I was their tank and I looked back at the replay and saw my Bring spamming her melee in the open and letting me get charged into a wall I would lose my mind. Why play Brig when you just stand there while the tank gets jumped??
Watching them randomly swing and run around made me violently angry.
good video, yoooooooo.
Brig is above my paygrade
As a diamond brig only Im pretty good in managing packs but when i play against poke comps and miss a whip i try to activate inspire(out of necessity)i do silly things and die.it feels like every evry whip matters.any tips? Should i foucous on staying alive or take risk to activate inspire?
staying alive is most important. Don't take a stupid angle to land an impossible whip if it means possibly dying.
@@jeffstone7471 ty but during that time I feel so useless and watch my team spamming I need healing and die lool
@@Najib_Opwhip is on like a 7 second cooldown so I suppose you should just play it safe and wait for cd although if it's safe to go in then you can do a bash or a normal hit
Swap, maybe? Lol
@@moleedaboi one trick
I have a question… what if your other support is Juno? It’s hard to keep them alive when they zoom!
about @14:10 the "your Ana, your Ana" bit, their Ana was fine at that point. I keep seeing the brig spin around, and I'm assuming it's to check on their teammates since you don't get that handy status bar at the top. You're absolutely right about a lot of this, but I don't think the right play can be "focus on Ana to the exclusion of everything else"
I only got to 6 minutes before making this comment, but it looks like this guy is waiting to move into space that has already been taken. Brig is a tank hybrid, which means you do tank things. you take space, and defend your teammates. this entire time, it looks like he's playing Mercy without damage boost. there were several moments where the tank was anti'd and nearly dead, where he could have jumped in and gave his Mauga breathing room, or protected his Ana. either or, those are Brig's favorite teammates, support number 2 and the tank. she lives and breathes off playing with those 2 teammates. you're playing support Reinhardt, you need to get in peoples face to get the best value, ie.pressuring enemies (and proccing inspire)
ALRIGHT SO!
Inspire lasts 5 secs. Whip Shot is a 4 sec CD. Proc Inspire...
what does "proc" mean? You keep saying to proc inspire. Ik what inspire is but what is proc? Thank you for the informative video
A little late but procing is essentially getting the ability off, normally activating by hitting something or using something
@@baddie2749 thank you!
I have no idea where the word originated from but I hate it
What happens if both teams capped in overtime?
they all get a minute or so to push in the next round
I just love Brig ❤
Everytime I play brig I get 5 man dove and insta die lol
Same 😂even in good positioning I’ll somehow get targeting by their tank
My lord does Emongg repeat the same things over and over. After the first minute I could write the rest of the script
Some people need to hear the same things over and over.
I do
I could tell you never been coached or had an mentor or in your life.
When the person makes the same mistake over and over then yes…. You gotta repeat the mistake
this is a gold in disguise lol
Idk how this is masters lol
Sometimes, people feel a little silly
Yea, they are just swinging the air from widow maker range the entire game just spectating. i understand its like rein that you should just swing constantly BUT they are from 3x swing range, not behind any corners the whole game, out in the open across the map no sombra and just sitting there lol. he hit like 5 primary's the whole game probably, he hit more whip shots than primarys
@@Forest_Strikerliterally one game. You have bad games, I have bad games. Its ridiculous that OW players flame people off of one game or one play 😂
Listen to the commentary. He litteraly explains the logic perfectly.
@@BrazenBull91 yea for sure I know it happens and I rarely flame in chat and just deal with it go next but this player almost made it look like they were trying to lose the game lol. I counted their hits and it was like 31 primary 32 whip shots and 12 shield bashes. For a masters comp game you have to try and lose to get these numbers
@@BrazenBull91 Bad games are the ones you should focus on and try to fix your stuff. Makes sense to be harsh on someone's worst gameplay aspect.
one tricks are lame as hell
Masters????
Tf do you mean smh 🤦♂️
She played fine. Could do better, but still okay overall. You can tell it's master by how the other team are denying her value to begin with....
This brig player plays so far back, they might as well switch to lifeweaver/ana
That's kinda how a lot of high level brig is supposed to be played. As emongg stated, you play in the back with your other support (if it's something like Ana or Zen who have low survivability) and protect them.
@@nixsnowsong6732 Just surprised he didn't go for more whip shot but he said himself he felt like he was doing nothing at time
You kind of have to if you want to stay alive. If I miss a whip, most of the time I'm hiding waiting for the next one, or running tf away.
how are they masters? i play brig way better than this in silver
Masters 1 trick brig? How in the world am I still Gold on support if they're Masters?! The ranking is not balanced by your individual skill... 😡
youre gold because youre ass at the game.
yeah i’m sure it’s everyone else that’s keeping you down lol
@@haunted.h4art sarcasm
cope
Well, you're still gold because you can't tell the difference between gold and masters gameplay. You need to identify the differences and implement changes to your gameplay.
This guy is horrible. I religiously see bronze brigs better than this guy. He has no idea how to play brig
Lmao did the guy flame you in chat one time? I could just tell your blood pressure was high typing that comment 😭