Why Disney World is in Florida

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июн 2023
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    Have you ever wondered why Disney World is located where it is? Or how it came to be such a massive, self-contained universe? It’s a story that involves secret land deals, special districts, and, now, a corporation and a government locked in a feud.
    The story of why Disney World is in Florida marries business and governmental concerns about the creation of the massive property. The engineering ranges from unique physical construction (like the creation of a lake) to unique legal construction (like the creation of a self-running government that could even build its own sewer system).
    Further Reading:
    Buying Disney’s World (www.amazon.com/Buying-Disneys...) by Aaron H. Goldberg is an authoritative work about the purchase of Disney. Drawing from corporate records, internal histories, and more, it’s a comprehensive narrative about Disney World’s creation and early years.
    There are a lot of great Disney fan websites out there that are obsessive in their Disney coverage. I found Jim Hill’s history of Reedy Creek to be a good intro to the topic. (jimhillmedia.com/history-reed...)
    Disney news is also vibrant on RUclips. Mickey Views provides good perspective on the current battles.
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Комментарии • 890

  • @Vox
    @Vox  11 месяцев назад +1202

    Before deciding that year-round warm weather was a requirement, Disney considered two other East Coast locations: New Jersey’s Meadlowlands and a site near Washington DC.
    Thanks for watching!
    -Phil

    • @ilovecats8629
      @ilovecats8629 11 месяцев назад +96

      Thank god they didn’t choose the meadowlands. That would’ve absolutely ruined the calming chemical wasteland aesthetic taking the train into the city

    • @ToniBoordane
      @ToniBoordane 11 месяцев назад +7

      What information do you have about Disney considering West Haven, CT. Former site of Savin Rock amusement?
      Always heard growing up here that it was a possibility

    • @ReggieVSSolace
      @ReggieVSSolace 11 месяцев назад +8

      The National Harbor Site was the proposed DC location. A small portion of the site is still undeveloped where the east coast Disney location was allotted.

    • @coolboss999
      @coolboss999 11 месяцев назад +26

      Woah. Disney wanted to do it in NJ? That would have been really interesting

    • @Echo81Rumple83
      @Echo81Rumple83 11 месяцев назад +10

      too bad he didn't factor in how climate change would make Disneyland part of the Atlantis district due to rising oceans :/

  • @ByrdNick
    @ByrdNick 11 месяцев назад +3892

    Is it weird that the conservative dream of a privately owned city with minimal government may be ended by people who call themselves conservative?

    • @sleepyearth
      @sleepyearth 11 месяцев назад

      No because the people who call themselves conservative wants to take over disney board like a socialist.

    • @federicolusiani7753
      @federicolusiani7753 11 месяцев назад

      Conservatives hate laws only when they restrict their own freedom. They love to restrict the freedom of others though.

    • @vangogh330
      @vangogh330 11 месяцев назад

      Not in the least. If it weren't for hypocrisy, conservatives wouldn't have any values.

    • @prypiatshadow6371
      @prypiatshadow6371 11 месяцев назад +102

      Thats not a conservative dream. I dont know what rock your living under.

    • @christophersmith3005
      @christophersmith3005 11 месяцев назад +318

      @@prypiatshadow6371 It's definitely a libertarian or at least neoliberal dream...so conservative adjacent. Also, in the context you were using the word, it's "you're" not "your."

  • @casuallystalled
    @casuallystalled 11 месяцев назад +907

    Central Florida wouldn't be what it is today without Disney

    • @SpaceWizardCosplay
      @SpaceWizardCosplay 11 месяцев назад +39

      True. Overcrowded, overpriced, and too much traffic.

    • @paulg9484
      @paulg9484 11 месяцев назад +85

      @@SpaceWizardCosplay NIMBY mentality. If not, it would have been like some parts of Lousiana under developed without proper water or sewage system

    • @mitchelledgecomb9941
      @mitchelledgecomb9941 11 месяцев назад

      @@paulg9484 This is an incredibly dangerous mindset, just because Disney stood up against Ron DeFascist doesn't mean they're the victims, both are evil scumbags

    • @lawnman3638
      @lawnman3638 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@SpaceWizardCosplay Still a fun city to visit

    • @chadleach6009
      @chadleach6009 11 месяцев назад +2

      Or SeaWorld, or universal, that doesn't justify unfair advantages given to one and not the others.

  • @WDSimp
    @WDSimp 11 месяцев назад +1877

    I wonder how Epcot would look today if they had continued making it a futuristic city as opposed to a part of the theme park.

    • @nath-wp7xp
      @nath-wp7xp 11 месяцев назад +81

      Have urban planners of today looked at the Epcot plans and judged it on its merits? I wonder how good the Epcot plans actually are given todays problems with car dependency and urban sprawl.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 11 месяцев назад +63

      Depends in the economy. Despite the rhetoric, EPCOT is for all intents and purposes a massive company town owned and operated by Disney. He said it in the presentation film: nobody without a job with Disney can live there, and nobody own anything in there. Given Disney's seesaw of luck post Walt Disney, I doubt it will last long...

    • @smiles0013
      @smiles0013 11 месяцев назад +12

      @WDSimp watch the movie tomorrowland starring george clooney. I feel that is what they were going for

    • @hermosaflor10
      @hermosaflor10 11 месяцев назад

      @@smiles0013 is that what Disney what trying to build a futuristic city??

    • @tachiebillano6244
      @tachiebillano6244 11 месяцев назад +11

      That's easy to answer. One word: Singapore. It would be like Singapore.

  • @BenjamintheTortoise
    @BenjamintheTortoise 11 месяцев назад +1894

    Interesting... I'm a native Floridian and local to the area, and I wasn't entirely clear on the politics involved that were highlighted in recent headlines. I also didn't truly realize just how flippin large the land was!! (Us locals avoid that area as much as we can... Far too much traffic) 😄 Great video, thanks!! 💕

    • @mariolouis6412
      @mariolouis6412 11 месяцев назад

      Well, to make it easy to understand, Disney was actively supporting Floridian laws that allowed teachers to teach LGBTQ, and identity politics agendas to kids under 3rd grade, Desantis, and people who can actually think normally (right wing people), decided that that wasn't okay, so we're going after Disney. DESANTIS 2024

    • @LLamaNuts24
      @LLamaNuts24 11 месяцев назад +36

      Traffic in Disney World is so manageable that I use it to avoid traffic elsewhere (I-4, 192, etc) on my commute home frome work

    • @tigerabraham5582
      @tigerabraham5582 11 месяцев назад +5

      Why did it rain every day in Disney world?

    • @Rsmith420
      @Rsmith420 11 месяцев назад +40

      @@tigerabraham5582 because that’s what happens in Florida during the summer.

    • @Echo81Rumple83
      @Echo81Rumple83 11 месяцев назад +35

      too much traffic? then they SHOULD invest in public transportation. in the Anaheim park, the monorail is essentially a concept that most developed European and Asian countries made into high-speed rails.
      then again, America was duped into buying cars because the auto industry lobbied for dominance in the name of profit (and oppressinng marginalized communities for being poor and/or black. thaaaaat's hypercapitalism :/

  • @rig-zag
    @rig-zag 11 месяцев назад +475

    You missed one big thing- Walt Disney originally wanted Disney World to be in Daytona Beach. However the city voted it down, as it wasn't wholesome enough, which is hilarious given what Daytona would become synonymous with.

    • @rakeemkoroma2398
      @rakeemkoroma2398 11 месяцев назад +16

      what is daytona synonymous with ?

    • @michaellee4276
      @michaellee4276 11 месяцев назад +88

      ​@@rakeemkoroma2398Spring Break

    • @justaregularrhino6529
      @justaregularrhino6529 11 месяцев назад +32

      more specifically spring break for college and highschool students.

    • @rebirthphoenix5646
      @rebirthphoenix5646 11 месяцев назад +20

      That’s sad since I consider going to Daytona once a year so having Disney World right in the city would’ve been really really good. Oh well it’s just gonna be synonymous with goofball college kids and NASCAR.

    • @chadleach6009
      @chadleach6009 11 месяцев назад +1

      Lgbt?

  • @MustyMouse
    @MustyMouse 11 месяцев назад +2880

    It's almost comical that Florida has no idea how much they need Disney. Classic Florida-man right there

    • @Ctasker5
      @Ctasker5 11 месяцев назад +108

      Yeah, but Disney isn't going anywhere from Florida. There may be short term consequences for DeSantis and maybe lack of expansion from Disney in Florida, but Disney would ultimately allow the state to do whatever it wants to it because of how deeply established it is in Florida currently.

    • @MustyMouse
      @MustyMouse 11 месяцев назад +247

      @@Ctasker5 I would actually say the exact opposite. Florida is going to let Disney do whatever they want (as is evidenced by this video) but may put on a strong face to appease certain voters.

    • @WarnerMusicLtd774
      @WarnerMusicLtd774 11 месяцев назад +22

      @@MustyMouse yeah they 100 percent know lol, as u said it’s just politics nothing drastic gonna happen

    • @craigape
      @craigape 11 месяцев назад +72

      Florida has the #4 highest GDP of all states. It has a GDP of well over $1 trillion. It's hard to measure the impact exactly, but studies have shown Disney World contributes up to $80 billion to Florida's economy annually (many say it is far lower, around $18 billion, but they probably don't account for tourism quite as well). That's a sizable amount of money, it's likely somewhere between 5-8% if you're being generous, but if you actually look at the numbers losing that money wouldn't even drop Florida down to #5 highest GDP.
      Disney helps, but Florida definitely doesn't need it like you claim. That's simply untrue.

    • @TheInfintyithGoofball
      @TheInfintyithGoofball 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@craigape the GDP of Over 1 TRILLION has to have come from Disney and u can't convince me otherwise,
      any drop in the economy let alone one THIS BIG would definitely be bad for Florida.

  • @DeepDeepSpace
    @DeepDeepSpace 11 месяцев назад +164

    Fun fact. Walt Disney's parents were married in central Florida, 50 miles north of the land Walt Disney World was built on.

    • @busterhikney6936
      @busterhikney6936 11 месяцев назад

      Another Fun Fact: Disney gave money to Hitler.

  • @iReima
    @iReima 11 месяцев назад +1345

    Walt Disney would have been a great antagonist for a Bioshock game

    • @FelipeKana1
      @FelipeKana1 11 месяцев назад +122

      No one can convince me that the antagonists we had weren't inspired by him

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren 11 месяцев назад +69

      He already is. Who do you think Andrew Ryan is based of

    • @lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198
      @lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198 11 месяцев назад +5

      Bioshock?

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren 11 месяцев назад +31

      @@lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198 the video game from 2007. You know one of the best games of all time

    • @ghmasterjj
      @ghmasterjj 11 месяцев назад +48

      I mean Andrew Ryan kinda looks like walt Disney

  • @7ak
    @7ak 11 месяцев назад +135

    It's funny how corporations control municipalities. In Japan, the city where Toyota's headquarters is located was renamed from Koromo City to Toyota City.

    • @thomicrisler9855
      @thomicrisler9855 11 месяцев назад +10

      Oh that's interesting. I always thought the company was named after the city.

    • @SpaceWizardCosplay
      @SpaceWizardCosplay 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@thomicrisler9855 It's the same with Mitsubishi and Honda.

    • @Twestliw
      @Twestliw 10 месяцев назад +1

      Money talks

  • @hugazo
    @hugazo 11 месяцев назад +216

    So basically Walt Disney was playing Cities Skylines IRL.

  • @peachywink4874
    @peachywink4874 11 месяцев назад +183

    My mom’s family moved to Orlando in 1959 and my parents still live there. It feels like he is spitting on town history. Disney World is something generations of my family are proud of, they remember it being built my mom was employed there as a teen in the 60s and drove the monorail, myself, and my cousins worked summer jobs. My uncle was a full-time employee. I just want him to leave Orange county out of his simple bumpkin soundbite seeking mind. People like Disney more than politicians, and he needs to get over it.

    • @pacmanzy
      @pacmanzy 8 месяцев назад +1

      If her family actually lives there like you say, it’s a massive double edged sword. Tons of tourism, but the EXTREME traffic and overpopulation, especially during summer months, are unbearable.

    • @vivetkah
      @vivetkah 5 месяцев назад

      Excuse me but Disneyworld under pays its employees who live in cramped Disney housing a Disney truck driver gets paid $15/ hr barely making it and recently they cut off employees discount for their own families to enjoy the place at a discount. This is a billionaire corporation that owes 55+ yrs back taxes !! Money that’s used to build schools fix roads, etc for the community.
      Everyone pays taxes and many Floridians were paying way more than Disney who thinks they’re above the law.
      Good for De Santi to take them to court and get them to pay up they’re fair share of back taxes and taxes!
      If it wasn’t for their employees Disney wouldn’t exist!

  • @nlpnt
    @nlpnt 11 месяцев назад +178

    The two big issues Walt had with the Anaheim location, which are still true today, are that out-of-towners could stay "off property" at completely non-Disney-affiliated hotels which are easy walking distance from the main gate and locals (particularly) could see traffic on I-5 from the top of the Ferris wheel and strategically time their exit based on that.

    • @michaelc657
      @michaelc657 11 месяцев назад +11

      Disney wasn't in the hotel business in Walt's lifetime, the Disneyland Hotel was run by his Hollywood friend Jack Wrather. The company had no history as a lodging operator until after Walt died, when they took over Disney World's two hotels following visitor complaints about the outside operator they initially hired to staff them.

    • @stargatis
      @stargatis 11 месяцев назад +2

      Now we can’t afford to go at all😂

  • @schumanhuman
    @schumanhuman 11 месяцев назад +340

    One of the things Walt learned from Disneyland was how hotels were popping up miles out to capitalise on demand for the resort, the scale of Dsineyworld was explicitly to capture the externalties. Because of the scale however the land purchases had to be kept secet as long as possible to stop owners or land speculators from holding the land titles in expectation of the massive value the investment would create.
    However though Disney did unusually create a large amount of local land value (and this argument is sometimes used to discredit land value tax despite being a total outlier), the sites were not chosen at random but to capitalse on exisiting and new public goods, as wiki entry explains
    '. After witnessing the well-developed network of roads and taking the planned construction of both Interstate 4 and Florida's Turnpike into account, with McCoy Air Force Base (later Orlando International Airport) to the east, Disney selected a centrally located site near Bay Lake.'
    So the state should still capture that value via a land tax or equivalent methods of value capture.

  • @AmaraJordanMusic
    @AmaraJordanMusic 11 месяцев назад +97

    I wished this went into more of the feud going on, but when I looked back at the title, I realized it may need its own video for that. This video did a great job of explaining what the title promises, and that’s all I can ask for!

    • @michaeladkins6
      @michaeladkins6 11 месяцев назад +10

      The feud is the governor with a massive ego, presidential ambitions and doesnt like being questioned.

    • @Andre_APM
      @Andre_APM 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's still ongoing so maybe after the elections there will be a vid about it

    • @2.fatducks
      @2.fatducks 11 месяцев назад

      ron desatan

  • @alexluciano7574
    @alexluciano7574 11 месяцев назад +247

    They actually considered New Orleans at one point. Imagine if they got that economic boost like Florida did

    • @williamkaled
      @williamkaled 11 месяцев назад +10

      God i wish they would have drained NOLA like they did those florida swamps xD

    • @alliesaizan3593
      @alliesaizan3593 11 месяцев назад +14

      I am from New Orleans and I knew about this! I think they planned to use (or build?) an island in Lake Pontchartrain. If the multiverse exists, I would love to visit the universe where New Orleans got Disney World - it would have been such a different city haha

    • @Creepereye20
      @Creepereye20 11 месяцев назад +15

      It would have been in the hotspot for hurricanes, which is where you would NOT want to build a multi-million dollar theme park.

    • @williamkaled
      @williamkaled 11 месяцев назад +22

      @@Creepereye20 So is florida 🤨

    • @FigureFarter
      @FigureFarter 11 месяцев назад +24

      @@Creepereye20 Central Florida is less on the hurricane pathway than sitting right on a gulf

  • @mariaholmstead4508
    @mariaholmstead4508 11 месяцев назад +108

    As a former disney world employee, the only thing we're told as to why it was built in Florida was due to it being warm all year round, and it had lots of open areas which was good for building a big theme park. I knew Disney was a Republican but I had no idea him building the parks involved politics. Definitely makes sense though.

    • @Liberalcali
      @Liberalcali 11 месяцев назад

      Do you read what you are commenting!?

    • @ellatignor3250
      @ellatignor3250 11 месяцев назад

      Your point?

    • @mariaholmstead4508
      @mariaholmstead4508 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@ellatignor3250 my point is I was stating facts from someone who used to work for the corporation. Clearly you didn't read nor comprehend my comment.

    • @RealFroggo
      @RealFroggo 6 месяцев назад

      Disney now is liberal which is problematic to the area. I only support the cancellation of their power over the land because they shouldn't be political.@@mariaholmstead4508

  • @purinpat
    @purinpat 11 месяцев назад +87

    I watched a documentary about Disneyland before. I think it was at Disney family museum. What happened with California Disneyland was that he wanted to whole area to be kid friendly. A lot of businesses nearby started to do whatever to benefit from the popularity of Disneyland that it started to become not so kid friendly. He bought a larger land in Florida to make sure that the surrounding areas will be Disneyland property in case he wants to expand and also to prevent businesses that will build things surrounding the park that will ruin the “fantasy” world that he wanted to build.

    • @jennyrodriguez811
      @jennyrodriguez811 11 месяцев назад +8

      There's a movie called "The Florida Project" that shows this issue in particular, because it highlights a motel in Kissimmee having to cater to Disney tourists.

  • @ej_tech
    @ej_tech 11 месяцев назад +37

    "Don't mess with the mouse"

  • @whipsplash6943
    @whipsplash6943 11 месяцев назад +20

    I'm glad Governor Ron Disaster showed us who he is before running for president.

  • @edl5731
    @edl5731 11 месяцев назад +15

    Epic battle between two cartoon rodents: Rat vs. Mouse.

  • @RenaudAlly
    @RenaudAlly 11 месяцев назад +41

    I went to Disney World first week of June this year. It's shocking to see the influence they have over the area, and everyone knows about it. Even at Universal studios in the horror make-up show, a stage artist spilled water on an audience member (as part of the act). They asked them if they would like a towel, followed by "that will be $10. Welcome to Orlando!" Amazing experience.

  • @B-max.
    @B-max. 11 месяцев назад +50

    Mickey knows how to throw hands bruh

    • @TorquemadaTwist
      @TorquemadaTwist 11 месяцев назад +7

      That's why he's always gloves up. Gotta hide those brass knuckles.

  • @joitaylor3765
    @joitaylor3765 11 месяцев назад +19

    Local Floridian! Disney world is wild because now a million other amusement parks have built up in downtown central Florida just to mimic their success story. No local wants to go into the area because it’s so overcrowded with tourists most of the time. I never go to Disney even though I live close by.

    • @ellatignor3250
      @ellatignor3250 11 месяцев назад +2

      Haha, just like Times Square 😂

  • @xythrial
    @xythrial 11 месяцев назад +7

    40 min drive from Los Angeles in the middle of the night with no traffic. 3 hours at any time in the daylight

    • @StoneSlumber
      @StoneSlumber 11 месяцев назад +2

      I think he was referring to the era when Disneyland was built.

  • @Burnlit1337
    @Burnlit1337 11 месяцев назад +336

    If only DeSantis would actually fight Disney on things that actually matters, like how much Disney pays and treats it's 'cast members', then he might actually gain more support and may even win against the other republican candidates

    • @travcollier
      @travcollier 11 месяцев назад +84

      Or maybe how Disney uses/abuses copyright laws and owns almost all the most profitable media rights now.

    • @nelsonth
      @nelsonth 11 месяцев назад

      That would be against the real Republican values: enrich the rich and mega corporates while hollowing out the working class

    • @glasscardproductions4736
      @glasscardproductions4736 11 месяцев назад +48

      That man needs to lose before his head inflates to become the next Furher Hindenburg.

    • @scottmolnar4132
      @scottmolnar4132 11 месяцев назад +12

      If cast members don’t like their pay or treatment, they are free to quit

    • @ryanmaxwelll2730
      @ryanmaxwelll2730 11 месяцев назад

      Republicans don't want employees to be paid more or receive better benefits. They want true Laissez-faire capitalism so their rich cronies can get richer off of the hard work of employees. Not that Democrats are tons better, but make no mistake, DeSantis would never fight for worker rights. He would get called a "socialist" or be called out for "re-distribution of wealth", and just like that, he would vanish into thin air politically.

  • @Racher50
    @Racher50 11 месяцев назад +20

    This video just made me realise Iron man 2’s stark expo was inspired by this EPCOT.

  • @DJVLDN
    @DJVLDN 11 месяцев назад +327

    That will teach them and other industries not to build in a swamp. Walt considered everything when he chose Florida, everything except the possibility that the swamp people might elect a tyrannical government.

    • @mariolouis6412
      @mariolouis6412 11 месяцев назад +36

      A "tyrannical government" -Angry Liberal

    • @fatboyRAY24
      @fatboyRAY24 11 месяцев назад

      More like the entirety of the western world. Are your communities so insular that you can’t see how Florida looks compared to everyone else? Come back down to reality before you hit your head on the ceiling.

    • @MateusChristopher
      @MateusChristopher 11 месяцев назад +15

      As a swamp person I do not approve this message

    • @classydemongaming847
      @classydemongaming847 11 месяцев назад +61

      ​@@mariolouis6412 "here we see the scaredy republican/conservative, watching the liberal herd with great fear" grow up

    • @dilophosaurusking7437
      @dilophosaurusking7437 11 месяцев назад +6

      Yah i can confirm the recent conservative pushback in Florida has largely been fueled by less extreme left leaners deciding to vote for Ron after seeing the stuff folks in Cali. Have been getting up too

  • @nagitokomaeda5573
    @nagitokomaeda5573 11 месяцев назад +37

    Walt Disney almost became the real life equivalent of Andrew Ryan from Bioshock

    • @clintstewart5545
      @clintstewart5545 11 месяцев назад +1

      Ryan was created by Ken Levine of Irrational Games based on figures including Ayn Rand, Howard Hughes, Charles Foster Kane, and Walt Disney. The character has received significant praise from critics, with Electronic Gaming Monthly ranking him ninth on their list of top ten video game politicians.

    • @screamingtrees9619
      @screamingtrees9619 11 месяцев назад

      “I chose the impossible m, I chose Disneyland 😤”

  • @estossala1
    @estossala1 11 месяцев назад +12

    For good or for bad Disney is Orlando and Orlando is Disney.
    Easy, half of the people I know in the area work in something related to them parks or hospitality.

  • @rethinkOURreality
    @rethinkOURreality 11 месяцев назад +51

    Growing up in south GA, there was a rumor that Walt also considered placing WDW in Valdosta, GA. We share a lot of the same warm weather, and it's on I-75. But the owner of the land, Stafford, didn't want to sell. Not sure how much proof there is to say that's true. Today though, there is an amusement park in the area, Wild Adventures.

  • @user-yx9hl8hr4i
    @user-yx9hl8hr4i 11 месяцев назад +10

    Disney is building communities now in the Coachella Valley area in CA

  • @alaskanmalamute101
    @alaskanmalamute101 11 месяцев назад +28

    Lol 50-100% increase in tourism for Florida the governor had no idea how big his vision was I imagine it is more like X10 that 😆

  • @mcarlson6712
    @mcarlson6712 11 месяцев назад

    this was put together so well!! thanks for sharing, the video is a lot of fun to watch!

  • @WillStephensArt
    @WillStephensArt Месяц назад

    Grateful for these endlessly interesting videos on topics I never knew were so cool!

  • @FranklinThe1
    @FranklinThe1 11 месяцев назад +51

    There were also a lot of good Cuban artists and architects who worked on the project I would know because my grandfather was the one who owned the construction company’s and got the artists on the job. I believe most of his involvement was in the creation of it’s a small world

  • @mauriciouieda
    @mauriciouieda 11 месяцев назад

    Phil Edwards' videos are always great to watch. Great one!

  • @AFloridaSon
    @AFloridaSon 11 месяцев назад +57

    "Legal Mindset" is a great place to get all of the answers about "the feud".

  • @neil340
    @neil340 11 месяцев назад +18

    Well done video. Good infographics and archival video

  • @izzatsufian2796
    @izzatsufian2796 11 месяцев назад +148

    Disney had more influence

    • @izzatsufian2796
      @izzatsufian2796 11 месяцев назад +5

      But has Disney World in many countries

    • @stevechance150
      @stevechance150 11 месяцев назад +18

      Most people are smart enough to know
      that you don't F with Mickey.

    • @izzatsufian2796
      @izzatsufian2796 11 месяцев назад +8

      I respect Mickey

    • @ryanreedgibson
      @ryanreedgibson 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@izzatsufian2796 I don't hate, fear, or respect Mickey. He's a fictionalized character for entertaining children. Basically, he's just like DeSantis but more authentic with higher depth of character!

    • @art-games6230
      @art-games6230 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@stevechance150 as a watcher of film theory, there’s plenty of evidence in favor of this

  • @meejinhuang
    @meejinhuang 11 месяцев назад +134

    Florida was already a tourist state and the land near Orlando was very cheap at the time.

    • @Booz2020
      @Booz2020 11 месяцев назад +2

      Make FLORIDA Great Again 😎 Ron DeSantis

    • @TheOfficialChannelOfChannels
      @TheOfficialChannelOfChannels 11 месяцев назад +6

      Why would tourist flock to Florida without disneyworld?

    • @supernovaxs9480
      @supernovaxs9480 11 месяцев назад +20

      @@TheOfficialChannelOfChannels Because of the coastline/beaches, kind of like California. Disney World added on to its appeal.

    • @TheOfficialChannelOfChannels
      @TheOfficialChannelOfChannels 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@supernovaxs9480 ohh Alligators and Swamps and Humid Air true , everyone would love to see that

    • @TheOfficialChannelOfChannels
      @TheOfficialChannelOfChannels 11 месяцев назад +2

      @SupernovaXS sorry I meant like how was Florida before Disney was there? Like people really flew out there cause of the coastlines back then?

  • @CrossFitDelVal
    @CrossFitDelVal 11 месяцев назад +7

    Great video, Phil! Thank you for all you do

  • @ryanortega1511
    @ryanortega1511 11 месяцев назад +13

    Hey, speaking of which, there's a Disney show that premiered today called 'Hailey's On It!', where the protagonist sings about rollerskating to Orlando.

  • @edwardolivares2795
    @edwardolivares2795 11 месяцев назад +6

    Desantis really about to F around and find out. Never mess with the Mouse lol

  • @na3rial
    @na3rial 11 месяцев назад +111

    It’s sad that the only way for people to stop unpopular legislation is to have a corporation fight against it

    • @adanalyst6925
      @adanalyst6925 11 месяцев назад +17

      The legislation you speak of was supported by the majority of Floridians

    • @LeScratch89
      @LeScratch89 11 месяцев назад +35

      @@adanalyst6925 No, just the majority of northern transplants who moved to a tourist destination at 70 and then complain about the tourists.

    • @glasscardproductions4736
      @glasscardproductions4736 11 месяцев назад +12

      *unethical legislation

    • @Dark_Kommissar
      @Dark_Kommissar 11 месяцев назад +11

      Legislation is only unpopular if people vote against it. The definition of unpopular means that the majority of people don’t like it. The legislation you speak of was, by definition, popular in Florida because the majority of people voted for it. What you want is for a corporation to step in and overturn legislation that you don’t like.

    • @100c0c
      @100c0c 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@LeScratch89People who live there are Floridians too. Thats how it works.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 11 месяцев назад +212

    The more I see and hear Ron, the more I see his lack of personality and awkwardness.

    • @Booz2020
      @Booz2020 11 месяцев назад

      Make GATORs Great Again 😎 Ron DeSantis

    • @sew_gal7340
      @sew_gal7340 11 месяцев назад +1

      hes awesome

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 11 месяцев назад +7

      Honestly, at least, Trump was.... colorful. Ron is just Trump with less seasoning.

    • @EffingtonCouldBe
      @EffingtonCouldBe 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@kingace6186 So you think Ron needs some ORANGE makeup?

  • @TakatoSakurazawa
    @TakatoSakurazawa 11 месяцев назад +2

    The DC project was just an hotel project in National Harbor. They purchased 11 acres back in 2009 but ended cancelling the project. However, the first DC-area site they saw was on Haymarket, VA proposed in the early 90s, to be called "Disney America" to which they decided to not go through due to climate, recession and the then-failure of the Euro Disney park (Disneyland Paris)

  • @joeymatus
    @joeymatus 11 месяцев назад +24

    I think that this argument between Disney and the state government is basically by my guess like changing the constitution to something else. I also think that if someone had rights for about 50 years they should keep those rights due to they did things good for many years

    • @screetchycello
      @screetchycello 11 месяцев назад +10

      Ron's problem is the government constitutionally cannot break a contract. So he can blather all he wants but he's very limited

    • @joeymatus
      @joeymatus 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@screetchycello I get what you mean

  • @runnerfromjupiter
    @runnerfromjupiter 11 месяцев назад +2

    Fascinating stuff!

  • @Movieclips_101
    @Movieclips_101 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great video and information 💯

  • @victorhugofranciscon7899
    @victorhugofranciscon7899 11 месяцев назад +3

    All of the grainy footage from 50s and 60s are certainly a different vibe that is hard to describe

  • @isaacmartinez6904
    @isaacmartinez6904 11 месяцев назад +66

    It’s sad that Walt Disney didn’t live to see the opening of Disney World.

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren 11 месяцев назад +15

      No it’s not. He was a horrible man

    • @princevalencia8816
      @princevalencia8816 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@MrJimheeren You knew him? Cool!

    • @lauramessy
      @lauramessy 11 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@princevalencia8816the rumours are big

    • @nepatrul6075
      @nepatrul6075 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@MrJimheeren the single greatest individual ever to embody the “American Dream” was not actually a terrible person, but I understand that’s a popular thing to read on the internet.

    • @cxmxqx
      @cxmxqx 11 месяцев назад

      @@MrJimheeren how? elaborate (i’m not being ignorant i just don’t know what he did)

  • @jk484
    @jk484 11 месяцев назад +8

    Any idea why there’s a huge gap in the land Disney purchased and the Reedy Creek district south of Route 530? The video uses both interchangeablely.

    • @Yuma305
      @Yuma305 11 месяцев назад +5

      Celebration. It used to be owned by Disney as the company built the city, however they annexed it since residents wanted voting power and Disney was against it. Native Floridian and very local resident.

    • @jk484
      @jk484 10 месяцев назад

      @@Yuma305I think you mean “deannexed” it from the Reedy Creek District

  • @6Planet
    @6Planet 11 месяцев назад +97

    Desantis is comically bad to get me rooting for a megacorporation that owns practically everything.

    • @TheRaptorPope
      @TheRaptorPope 11 месяцев назад +6

      Which is why I'm rooting for DeSantis, and not the corporation who sued a grieving father for putting an image of Spiderman on his son's grave. I've never heard any stories about DeSantis intentionally destroying a terminally ill child's final wish.

    • @Wagangga_Ed_Lingk
      @Wagangga_Ed_Lingk 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@TheRaptorPopewhich is worse, a transphobic politician or a corporation doing rainbow capitalism hmm🤔🤔🤔

    • @EquestriaGuy
      @EquestriaGuy 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@TheRaptorPope DeSantis, who calls trans people mutants and think the whole group of people should be eradicated? Does it remind you of someone (hint - Hitler)?

    • @thechosenone4568
      @thechosenone4568 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@EquestriaGuy he never said they should be eradicated, stop the hyperbole

  • @ElJefeDeTexas
    @ElJefeDeTexas 11 месяцев назад +6

    Florida depends on Tourism, without Tourism you really only have left is farming & fishing

  • @elbaecc
    @elbaecc 11 месяцев назад +11

    Usually, Vox videos are shorter but get the point across in a very well-reasoned manner and very well. This one felt a bit rushed / incomplete.

    • @Pubsubs5life
      @Pubsubs5life 11 месяцев назад +1

      I agree, leaving a lot out and felt incredibly rushed

  • @marriimar6562
    @marriimar6562 11 месяцев назад

    The ending was a spectacular reference of the clause!

  • @nikmohamed5906
    @nikmohamed5906 11 месяцев назад +74

    i'm most surprised by the fact that Disney have the legal right to operate a nuclear fission power plant right in the middle of florida

    • @michaelsmith953
      @michaelsmith953 11 месяцев назад +30

      nuclear is a safe technology if you actually look into why the meltdowns happened

    • @Black_CoreyNFin
      @Black_CoreyNFin 11 месяцев назад +16

      Yeah Nuclear is annihilation. I would much rather have a coal fire power plant because these are much better for the health and Climate of Florida! /s

    • @misterbanshee7992
      @misterbanshee7992 11 месяцев назад +7

      I’m not sure how true it is but I heard Disney buys more explosives then US military cuz of all the fireworks lol

    • @science_bear
      @science_bear 11 месяцев назад

      @@Black_CoreyNFin why not speed up the rate in which Florida goes underwater?

    • @Black_CoreyNFin
      @Black_CoreyNFin 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@science_bear You've heard of property on the water, now get ready for property UNDER the water!

  • @exexalien
    @exexalien 11 месяцев назад

    Nice touch with the background music around 5:30. I'm sure at least one other person who works at Vox got that joke!

  • @vacafuega
    @vacafuega 11 месяцев назад +6

    Ah yes - the handpan, the official instrument of Fantasyland

  • @jdyer9431
    @jdyer9431 11 месяцев назад +4

    This built up the history really well and then just said 'somehow palpatine returned' and ended.

  • @supaasandy9807
    @supaasandy9807 11 месяцев назад +9

    Who else is here in the comments just to comment a fun fact straight from Defunctland’s EPCOT video?

  • @jjsansano
    @jjsansano 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks Vox! For always answering the questions we don’t ask.

  • @Chendarleneplayz
    @Chendarleneplayz 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ooo I’m in Orlando Florida and went to Disney world sea world yesterday

  • @ethanabraham6830
    @ethanabraham6830 11 месяцев назад +8

    5:08 Captain America wrote that newspaper article 😮

  • @staringcorgi6475
    @staringcorgi6475 11 месяцев назад +2

    To save 10 minutes land was cheap and in flordia it can be open year round

  • @armandosanchez4830
    @armandosanchez4830 11 месяцев назад +3

    Now we need a Disney vs Florida

  • @jazziegurlt22
    @jazziegurlt22 11 месяцев назад +2

    Wow, the original blueprints looks like burning man's actual layout 😅

  • @damongraham1398
    @damongraham1398 11 месяцев назад +28

    I can't remember when I first heard about Reedy Creek. I do remember I was against the idea of a corporation owning a city. Not enough to stop buying Disney products. Especially when Disney bought Marvel. Now the idea of siding with DeSantis turns my stomach. Corporations should not be in charge of counties or cities.

    • @michaelsmith953
      @michaelsmith953 11 месяцев назад

      corporations basically own our government anyways lol, for example the u.s. protects taiwan so apple can make iphones, invaded iraq to protect their oil companies etc.

    • @gegitherein6039
      @gegitherein6039 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@michaelsmith953 The Taiwan part is actually flipped, the US made Taiwan a chip manufacturing economy to protect them financially and made them the best in the entire world at it.
      It's only recently where that's now a reason to protect Taiwan, because during the cold war as long as you were aligned with the US, they just threw money at you, they didn't care.

    • @michaelc657
      @michaelc657 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's not officially a county. It's a Special Tax District because the property stretches across county lines and would have two dueling governments. The other theme parks don't have them because they are entirely in Orange County. Many cross-county agencies have similar districts (the Golden Gate Bridge in California, for example).

    • @damongraham1398
      @damongraham1398 11 месяцев назад +1

      I stand corrected.

  • @toddkonrad2407
    @toddkonrad2407 11 месяцев назад +3

    “A 40 minute drive from Los Angeles” 👀. When???

    • @StoneSlumber
      @StoneSlumber 11 месяцев назад +3

      In 1955. When they built Disneyland.

  • @bobbyr96
    @bobbyr96 11 месяцев назад +1

    Does anyone know what condos/apartments are owned by Disney on Little Lake Bryan, that he was talking about?
    That’s where the college housing used to be

  • @jonhiggins7837
    @jonhiggins7837 11 месяцев назад

    Nice video, these are some real cool guys right here. I wonder if they are even rappers tbh. Gd I wish I could read frfr I wanna start making more money by farming tbh

  • @liquidpebbles7475
    @liquidpebbles7475 11 месяцев назад +22

    They prolly have an army there

    • @TorquemadaTwist
      @TorquemadaTwist 11 месяцев назад +5

      Hmm... Goofy Marines, Donald's Navy, Crashdown heading the Air Force. The recruitment ads would be spectacular.

    • @null-Oh-6666
      @null-Oh-6666 11 месяцев назад +1

      An army of malnourished early adult employees, yes of course

  • @AlanJLopez-gj5gf
    @AlanJLopez-gj5gf 11 месяцев назад +11

    What a story!!! That continues to be unwritten. Let’s go Disney, fight that hate! 🔥

  • @michaelsmith957
    @michaelsmith957 11 месяцев назад +5

    the politics of this area was defined, before the 1st blade of soil was turned - that is after Gulf Oil donated the land.

  • @mikhailabunidal9146
    @mikhailabunidal9146 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for showing our 🏡state of Florida! With this video

  • @alwaysapplypressure2477
    @alwaysapplypressure2477 11 месяцев назад

    We Appreciate You

  • @HagiaFantasia
    @HagiaFantasia 10 месяцев назад +2

    Why do they keep building in the middle of swamps? Disney world, Washington DC, Versailles

  • @AnthonyJMurph
    @AnthonyJMurph 11 месяцев назад

    Its pretty easy. Popular destination area East of the Mississippi, good weather, and tax friendly in the 60s.

  • @Jakester1950
    @Jakester1950 11 месяцев назад +1

    Disney should move to southern Arizona...maybe Phoenix or Tucson area..weather is better year around without the humidity .

  • @khurramkhurshed9427
    @khurramkhurshed9427 11 месяцев назад

    Interesting information

  • @Qwantyla
    @Qwantyla 11 месяцев назад

    What is that classical song that plays at the end? Oboes and/ clarinets playing slowly? Thanks

  • @prestonval4439
    @prestonval4439 11 месяцев назад +1

    So wasn't a site in Louisiana around New Orleans ( Near Slidell/ Lacombe) under strong consideration before Florida ??

    • @michaeltaylor1603
      @michaeltaylor1603 8 месяцев назад

      Six Flags got flooded near Slidell. Disney likely knew NOLA was a bad choice because of flooding. Walt also liked existing interstate access in Florida.

  • @colefreer
    @colefreer 11 месяцев назад +50

    Ron DeSantis should know not to pick a fight with Disney’s lawyers, they’ve single-handedly changed copyright law several times

    • @Booz2020
      @Booz2020 11 месяцев назад +1

      Make FLORIDA Great Again 😎 Ron DeSantis

    • @sleepyearth
      @sleepyearth 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@Booz2020 Make Florida Lose Again 😎Ron DeSterile

    • @thanospatrick9093
      @thanospatrick9093 11 месяцев назад

      You'd prefer that Disney go unchecked then? Mickey Mouse should have been public domain like 30 years ago but they keep getting laws changed and you are chill with them having that level of influence? If I'm misreading you then just say so but that's how you are coming off

    • @casuallystalled
      @casuallystalled 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@thanospatrick9093 i think his point is that it's pointless to fight against the freaking mouse. but yeah they shouldn't be so unchecked. Reedy Creek should still remain under disney otherwise us Floridians will legit have to pay for it as said in the video

  • @juanitaebbs
    @juanitaebbs 9 месяцев назад

    That steel drum cover of 'A Postcard to Henry Purcell' is so amazing! If anyone knows where I could find it I would really appreciate it.

  • @derickmcduff
    @derickmcduff 9 месяцев назад +1

    A 40 min drive from LA? Sure maybe at 3 in the morning

  • @iron4517
    @iron4517 11 месяцев назад +11

    walt disney is truly one of the absolute best

    • @ripman21
      @ripman21 11 месяцев назад +3

      Except for the National Socialist support thing.
      Oh...and the racist and sexist thing.
      Other than that...a genius and by genius I mean he built his kingdom off someone else's idea

  • @khaybae
    @khaybae 11 месяцев назад

    Editing team is elite

  • @Sacto1654
    @Sacto1654 10 месяцев назад +1

    Well, I think Disney identified the fact land south of Orlando, Florida was literally dirt cheap. That's why the Walt Disney Company bought all that huge amount of land through a shell company between 1962 and 1966.

  • @aoibhealfae
    @aoibhealfae 11 месяцев назад +1

    Was the intro music "A Postcard to Henry Purcell"?

  • @imhimongfl
    @imhimongfl 6 месяцев назад

    I live in Anaheim! It’s amazing here❤

  • @davehicks6836
    @davehicks6836 11 месяцев назад +2

    Still waiting on that city. According to this video fewer than FIFTY people reside on the grounds. No massive rail system just the 1 monorail, sounds more like Disney failed to deliver, and anybody who lives here year round understand the issues this park causes daily. Drive I4 between mile marker 55 and 64 its less than 10 miles and often takes over an hour to get through. It's a 6 and 8 lane interstate that doubles as a parking lot 12 hours a day.

  • @jacksonong2576
    @jacksonong2576 11 месяцев назад +4

    I wonder how the taxpayers of the local counties that all this debt will likely now fall onto feel about desantis’ little war with Disney?

  • @bumblebee2956
    @bumblebee2956 11 месяцев назад +1

    He actually reminds me of Howard stark 😂

  • @staytheknight
    @staytheknight 11 месяцев назад +8

    Good I hope Disney moves out of Florida! Let’s see how much money your state makes afterwards Ronnie!

    • @mariolouis6412
      @mariolouis6412 11 месяцев назад +3

      If you think Ron is the problem and not Disney, then you have never used a news source other than CNN 🤦

  • @moneelbambino
    @moneelbambino 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ron DeSantis is Florida Man 🤣😂

  • @andrewcopeland6318
    @andrewcopeland6318 11 месяцев назад +1

    @Vox Where does St. Louis fit into this story? What about Riverfront Square?

    • @michaeltaylor1603
      @michaeltaylor1603 8 месяцев назад

      St. Louis didn't what to pony up the $$$$$$$$$. that was also to be an indoor park.

  • @commandert5
    @commandert5 11 месяцев назад

    My favorite defense is the simple pushing of the ladders back off the walls

  • @MikeCee7
    @MikeCee7 9 месяцев назад

    Walt did fly over Orlando 1:54. He did see I-4 & the FL turnpike intersect, (& barely any developments SW of that spot) But he(one) cannot see I-95 from Orlando. Its over 50+ miles away.
    -
    & you generalized too much about Central Florida being the only location considered.
    He did consider other places
    (as others have mentioned) and he did seriously look at Ocala, FL, because that’s where his mom was from.
    (And land was even cheaper there, than in Orlando)

  • @Past_Times
    @Past_Times 11 месяцев назад +3

    because florida is a place where florida mans exist.