I personally had that same gun on my hand the other day when I visited the shop. The gun is way lighter than a roller gun, it feels fantastic, not to mention the power that it offers. I’m looking forward to get one of those. Nice video Andrew
Would love to see a pool test/comparisson of the same setup but with enclosed track. I have a similar setup (MVD inverted, shorter barrel) and am very curious, if ET makes a difference.
WIth the right shaft ET will likely slow the shot a tiny bit compared to open track..... On a longer gun with thinner shaft ET can be beneficial but something like this set up no reason for it
Pros are that the reciprocating mass of the bands accelerate at half the speed causing less recoil. The cons are it takes twice the band to get the same power. With a good setup, you'll see good power and less muzzle rise and less perceived recoil. Personally, I believe that this is a great platform for thicker slower rubber with more power.
Im glad you finally make this video... just received this MVD invert roller zeso recently and never had chance to try it so far... wish to convert it into carbon body... its just look so nice.,,
Why is the line that leads from the rubber bands pulleys have to go thru the lateral hole in the roller head? What is the purpose of this?? Why not just have a simple single pulley between the lower bands with a line running from the (central) pulley pivot bolt directly to the roller head? I am trying to "simplify" my MVD 90 carbon inverted roller that came with 16mm bands. Interesting that you chose to work with 14mm bands. Mine came from the factory with zero pre-load, so am trying to set up 17lb pre-load at the muzzle for each or 3 band pairs. Any suggestions, much appreciated
hey Andrew, i was wondering why you chose to use 14mm bands and if stretchier bands like the green salvimar ones would be a better option instead of regular american latex like the neptonics bands?
I have an idea for you... When you pool test this gun... compare with roller and traditional same length gun... so this will get more interesting and people will get to know more about it...
Was a pain with these bands as they stretch to 400% or so.... the gun is a 105cm and we used 8" 14mm bands just about right. I would do 1-2" every 10cm based on the bands you are using
You didn't mention that the pulleys half the load of the rubber, so a 3 rubber inverted pully/roller has the load of 1.5 rubbers. You Also loose energy from the rollers and pulleys.
@@NautilusSpearfishing Thanks for the reply. When you do the pool testing if you can please let us know how tracking feels, and how it feels to aim with just the spear. Also your personal opinion on accuracy and how recoil compares with other guns would be awesome.
Use the side line guides for your wrap instead of the middle ones the groove is only for one wrap.... you can also do a voodoo wrap. Let me know if you can't get it and we can throw up a video for you
I personally had that same gun on my hand the other day when I visited the shop. The gun is way lighter than a roller gun, it feels fantastic, not to mention the power that it offers. I’m looking forward to get one of those. Nice video Andrew
Would love to see a pool test/comparisson of the same setup but with enclosed track.
I have a similar setup (MVD inverted, shorter barrel) and am very curious, if ET makes a difference.
WIth the right shaft ET will likely slow the shot a tiny bit compared to open track..... On a longer gun with thinner shaft ET can be beneficial but something like this set up no reason for it
Ive waited for so long to see this bad boy in action...
It's the equivalent to having 1/2 of the band pairs. The pulley makes a 2:1 ratio. 3 pair make the same as a 1.5 band roller gun.
Pros are that the reciprocating mass of the bands accelerate at half the speed causing less recoil. The cons are it takes twice the band to get the same power. With a good setup, you'll see good power and less muzzle rise and less perceived recoil. Personally, I believe that this is a great platform for thicker slower rubber with more power.
True!!..Less force, low shaft speed than the conventionals..but stays in motion in a longer range. Amazingly low recoil though..
Add different colored wishbones for easy ID on your band loading order. Your sharpie mark will eventually disappear I think...
Im glad you finally make this video... just received this MVD invert roller zeso recently and never had chance to try it so far... wish to convert it into carbon body... its just look so nice.,,
Eh dak nautiboy lah 🤣
Hi just wondering in case you only use 2 bands instead of 3. And you short a bit more the 2 bands left. Does it work well also ?
When will be the pool-testing video on this gun coming, guys?
Had a bad arm injury and has pout a halt on many things..... Hoping to have something to show once I get this arm working properly again
Why is the line that leads from the rubber bands pulleys have to go thru the lateral hole in the roller head? What is the purpose of this?? Why not just have a simple single pulley between the lower bands with a line running from the (central) pulley pivot bolt directly to the roller head? I am trying to "simplify" my MVD 90 carbon inverted roller that came with 16mm bands. Interesting that you chose to work with 14mm bands. Mine came from the factory with zero pre-load, so am trying to set up 17lb pre-load at the muzzle for each or 3 band pairs. Any suggestions, much appreciated
Yo bro here in the Caribbean I think I'm getting yr stuff really good gonna get a roller soon have MVD coming from u soon from Gilly can't wait
hey Andrew, i was wondering why you chose to use 14mm bands and if stretchier bands like the green salvimar ones would be a better option instead of regular american latex like the neptonics bands?
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I have an idea for you...
When you pool test this gun... compare with roller and traditional same length gun... so this will get more interesting and people will get to know more about it...
Good morning sir how much your speargun in 100 cm long, im from the Philippines, thanks.
If possible how you measure your bands...
Good tutorial Andrew
where the pool test video? I couldn't find it :(
*face palm* we never did it so sorry.... I promise we will try for sure!
Any update on the pool testing video yet?
We could not do it yet.... local customer loved it so much he offered a price we could not refuse >___< now have to build a new one haha
When is the pool test being posted? I'm tapping my foot.
It was a busy summer for us thankfully... we are working on taking the videos out of the shop and into the water. It will come ;)
How much is cost ? And what size is that gun ? Thanks
Something like this with us building it for you would be around $600
how long are those rubber bands?
Where the pool test video🤔😅😅
Hey andrew looking forward to seeing how you guys got the band length im making a 140 invert and need some insight on my band length 🇬🇺🇬🇺
Was a pain with these bands as they stretch to 400% or so.... the gun is a 105cm and we used 8" 14mm bands just about right. I would do 1-2" every 10cm based on the bands you are using
@@NautilusSpearfishing thanks andrew looking forward to making it and testing it
@@NautilusSpearfishing wat brand bands are u using on it?
My barrel is 96cm
How should I use rubber
48cm- 16mm?
that would be a bit tight but yes will work if you can load it
Always informative
You didn't mention that the pulleys half the load of the rubber, so a 3 rubber inverted pully/roller has the load of 1.5 rubbers. You Also loose energy from the rollers and pulleys.
Can you choose to only use one of the bands on an inverted roller vs 2 or 3? Or will that mess up how the gun shoots etc? Anyone know?
You can but it will have less pop ... no harm though aside from loose bands on the belly flopping around haha
Is that an mvd with a carbon tube conversion?
Yes, minus the carbon fiber tube.
What s the brand of that roller? Price?
Thanks
Hey Andrew have you seen the mannysub inverted ?
Not yet... prob very cool
Pool testing video plz
Hopefully in a week or two ;)
how much for 82
how to order to philippines??
@@biboystv email me andrew@nautilusspear.com
Good, how long can you speak?
Is the gun set up from all MVD components?
Yes minus the carbon barrel, bands, and rigging
@@NautilusSpearfishing Thanks for the reply. When you do the pool testing if you can please let us know how tracking feels, and how it feels to aim with just the spear. Also your personal opinion on accuracy and how recoil compares with other guns would be awesome.
How do you run the line on a pathos carbon laser roller
Use the side line guides for your wrap instead of the middle ones the groove is only for one wrap.... you can also do a voodoo wrap. Let me know if you can't get it and we can throw up a video for you
Excellent explanation, but not for me, single roller , that's it. Thanks
What is the pretension on the rubbers
Top secret haha .... the band are about 8" on a 100cm tube but these bands have close to 400% stretch
@@NautilusSpearfishing wow... this means lots of power.... waithing for pool test...
how long is your rubber speargun?
this one is 100cm ... I personally have a 130cm
@@NautilusSpearfishing thanks bro
Nandi
Any news on the pool test ? Also how would it compared to the passo sniper roller
Helow sir im john mark from phillipines..i like your spear..soo nice..my spear is verey ugly..i wish this Christmas have prrson give speargun for me..
where are you guys located i would love to bug a gun from your store
Miami FL ;)
wow im in miami as well ill be passing by for sure
You work out? Oh shit would have never guessed Pimp
Mình muốn mua một cay
Mình muốn mua một cay 1,2mm
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Flip fone around still..thats more awesome😎 than that gun😂😂😂
haha!
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I really like the Woodprix plans.
whale hunting?
how long are those rubber bands?
top secret... they are around 10" inch