Been playing 30 yrs and wanted to improve my cue power so increased my backswing 2 yrs ago but occasionally over hit other shots. This video helps explain why so thank you 🙏 I still love this beautiful game ❤
What a great explaination, I want to add one thing, I started playing with a short backswing among the break zone (black&pink) break jumped from 50 to 90, it minimized the error margin alot specially for close shots and shots don't need power (kind of roll off or bit harder). I test it when I pull back the cue with a long back swing and I'm planning to hit slow or weak shot just because it does not need power I will auto losen my rythem, so when delivered it the deliverance will deviate because of the relax or loose shot, and that's a logic because you can't deliver a long swing slowly , sure it will move right or left,. Therefore 3 inches from tip to cueball will be enough.
Very well explained! Many times when I went to far back I delivered badly because, I think, of muscle stiffness, and also because too worried to know where I’ll end-up 😮.
I think the longer back swing facilitates better acceleration through the white, but it’s a trade off with accuracy. Definitely a case of finding a happy medium
Hi Steve, another great tutorial, but I struggle with cue control when using a full backswing, do you have a practice regime for straight cueing when using power too, this is when my cueing goes pear-shaped? Thanks. Nace.
Interesting one this as Steve Davis was trying to get everyone to use the short backswing on tv the other day...but I understand your logic..and even Davis himself used the long backswing on some shots in his heyday. Steve please advise the very best way to find centre vision as this subject is confusing me the most right now. Barry Stark uses one method and Nik Barrow uses another. I just need to know where exactly to put the cue on my chin. Thanks
Alex Higgins had a short back swing in his cue action. Great to watch how he generated so much power with such a short back swing. Then you have Luca Brecel, the complete opposite, huge back swing. Snooker is one of the few sports where technique can vary so dramatically and yet still achieve at the highest level.
ruclips.net/video/z35TwQPfUGk/видео.html Have a look at 40 seconds into the video. Even for Alex, when he needed power and spin, full backswing used. He generally was more compact, but it's just impossible for some shots to be played without a good "run up".
@@BartonSnooker Great shot on the brown, that's as much back swing as it gets for Alex 😀 Amazing how the white travels back down almost the full length of the table, then right back up past half way.
can you make another but detailed video about grip, where you show in details and which part of palm should be touching the cue when in address position, and also i dont get the grip shape like you or most pros get after the delivery. my grip hand looks the same as address position even after the delivery but yours and most pros dont. i couldnt find a single video on youtube where they talk about details grip eg: in address position should the back of palm be touching the cue can you please make a video? thank you
Very interesting video Steve 😊 when I'm playing around the reds with Pink and black in play, I always used a very short backswing for the little touch shots 😊a bit like Mark Allen & Cliff Thorburn, a very very short backswing, more of a touch shots in this area of the table 😊 not that I'm in the same league as Allen and Thorburn Thorburn 😂😂wish I was!! But mid range or long pots, I use a much longer backswing. Best wishes Steve! Ian
Hi Steve, great content as usual I've learned to many little aspects of the game from you. I've been playing with the long back swing in certain shots for a while now but I can actually see it come of line like judds action causing me to hit the wrong point on the white sometimes , is this a case of over extending the backswing.p.s how much is a half day with you? I feel I really need it to polish of the parts letting me down.
It's hard to know without watching you play. We all do a 'Judd Trump' to some extent. I'd love to show you all the stuff on do in my sessions on the table. There is so much to learn. Iron out some faults and give you a lot of extra knowledge. Send me an email or WhatsApp if you'd ever like to book a session. Details in the video description.
He doesn't. If he needs power or timing, he will use a long backswing. ruclips.net/video/bHy5Ze5EqP4/видео.html 1m 56s 2m 30s 3m 55s 6m 15s You get the idea 😅 It's just deceptive because generally on those fast tables you don't need a lot of power that often.
@@BartonSnooker very fair point. It's most evident at 3:55. I think what accentuates the view his back swing is short is that there is a very definite stop on the back swing. It's not a pause or slow down just before going forwards. It's an almost full stop. That makes it look very compact. Thanks for taking the time to point it out. Much appreciated
Great video as always Steve. What are your thoughts on using feathers that are the same length as the final backswing on shots to develop judgement of pace and eliminate the dreaded deceleration? e.g. you need to use say a 5 out of 10 power so in theory the feathers and the final backswing would be half the distance from the cueball to the V on your bridge hand. I guess the thinking behind it is that the feathers are used to feel the pace of the shot you're about to play. So why use a 1 inch feather if you intend using a full final backswing. 🤷♂️
Just depends on the player. Selby's feathers are the same every time, no matter what power he is using - Ronnie will vary them depending on the shot. Feathers are there for feel. You need to do what feels natural for YOU personally to feel the shot.
Hey Steve another question Why do we amateur-intermediate players typically forget that muscle memory of soft and controlled delivery when under pressure??
@@BartonSnooker Not forgetting that Steve Davies was saying recently that we should all shorten our bridges; you just can't bloody win: I guess to some extent it's horses for courses.😀.
@@keyoguitar the actual bridge length is a little more variable depending on the player. But as I discuss in the video, the final backswing and delivery often HAS to be longer to allow a player to play certain types of shot 👌
Is it true or not? If I apply a backswing either long or short, I have to breathe in everytime while I draw the cue back to be long or short backswing?
That's right! Never make technical changes or work on things like that in a match - it can mess you up! That's what practice matches or practice sessions are for 👍
That's right. His bridge LENGTH has decreased over the years. His BACKSWING is still very long. Don't confuse bridge length and the final backswing. Some players start with their hand close to the cue ball, which means a longer backswing for them is around 9-10 inches. Someone who starts with their hand 12 inches away, can pull the cue back to the tips of their fingers, and that's a 10 inch backswing again. So just be careful you understand that it's the distance you have to accelerate after you pull back that's important. Some players have their hand a lot closer to the white than others.
Well I think nothing matters ultimately. Just do whatever you like and repeat it over and over again is the key. I guess all you're ever trying to do is copy what MOST players are doing: So these top players use a long backswing when they need power or to generate a lot of spin: Ronnie, Judd, Selby, Robertson, Williams, Murphy, Higgins, Brecel, Lisowski, Kyren, Carter, Ding, Milkins, This stuff only matters though IF you can't achieve a certain shot. So if you've got players on club tables that can't pot a medium length straight green and screw back down for reds by the black, then that means they're restricted by the action. They've got a ceiling on what they can do. If they CAN play that shot with a really small backswing consistently, then great, no need to change. A long backswing in around the black spot doesn't matter at all, some players don't use one: Mark Allen, Mark Williams, but if you've got a player that can't play a particular kind of shot, then the backswing might be something for them to consider.
Cant believe this advance tutorial available for free. Thanks again Steve for the comprehensive tutorial.
He's the best on YT. 👍
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This is the most comprehensive explanation on backswing I have seen so far. This is great stuff.
I’m glad you missed the blue….it makes me feel better!! Thanks
Been playing 30 yrs and wanted to improve my cue power so increased my backswing 2 yrs ago but occasionally over hit other shots. This video helps explain why so thank you 🙏 I still love this beautiful game ❤
Excellent. Thanks for watching and well done with your game 👍
What a great explaination,
I want to add one thing, I started playing with a short backswing among the break zone (black&pink) break jumped from 50 to 90, it minimized the error margin alot specially for close shots and shots don't need power (kind of roll off or bit harder).
I test it when I pull back the cue with a long back swing and I'm planning to hit slow or weak shot just because it does not need power I will auto losen my rythem, so when delivered it the deliverance will deviate because of the relax or loose shot, and that's a logic because you can't deliver a long swing slowly , sure it will move right or left,. Therefore 3 inches from tip to cueball will be enough.
Very well explained! Many times when I went to far back I delivered badly because, I think, of muscle stiffness, and also because too worried to know where I’ll end-up 😮.
That's a great video with alot of detailed information being explained. Great video again. Keep up the good work.
I not only enjoyed i do learn from your videos i do play snooker thanks keep it up❤
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I think the longer back swing facilitates better acceleration through the white, but it’s a trade off with accuracy. Definitely a case of finding a happy medium
Nice job....like allways , difficult topics to explain ! Really well done ....i have allready gepostet in my Training group!
Love the videos and the consistency of the uploads Steve .. keep it up mate !!
Both informative and enjoyable. Thanks a lot for the great content 😊
Good info Barton.......
Will use tomorrow in my match
Great video... i wonder if you can make a video of mark selbys cue action and the way he sights 🤜🤛
Very useful and nice practical video ,, good Job best Steve , thx again 🙏🙏
I always had this problem about bridge lenth and how much back swing should ive got
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Great video Barton , thank you much appreciated.
Brilliant bro pls dont give up just keep uploading
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.❤
Thanks for your lesson, great video!
Great video Steve thank you
Hi Steve, another great tutorial, but I struggle with cue control when using a full backswing, do you have a practice regime for straight cueing when using power too, this is when my cueing goes pear-shaped? Thanks. Nace.
Love these videos, so great.
Do you give coaching. If so I would love to see the students learning and practising with you.
If possible could you shoot a video on how to fix the Cue tip .I will be thankful for you
Hi Steve thank you for great lessons and insights.
Perhaps a bit unrelated does the weight of the cue ball play any role in controlling it?
Interesting one this as Steve Davis was trying to get everyone to use the short backswing on tv the other day...but I understand your logic..and even Davis himself used the long backswing on some shots in his heyday.
Steve please advise the very best way to find centre vision as this subject is confusing me the most right now. Barry Stark uses one method and Nik Barrow uses another.
I just need to know where exactly to put the cue on my chin. Thanks
any tips for doing power shots using rest?
Alex Higgins had a short back swing in his cue action. Great to watch how he generated so much power with such a short back swing. Then you have Luca Brecel, the complete opposite, huge back swing. Snooker is one of the few sports where technique can vary so dramatically and yet still achieve at the highest level.
I wouldn’t copy Alex Higgins technique at all
@@haroldb6773 Well if you want to learn how to play the game with a short back swing, Alex is the man I'd be looking at 😀
ruclips.net/video/z35TwQPfUGk/видео.html
Have a look at 40 seconds into the video. Even for Alex, when he needed power and spin, full backswing used.
He generally was more compact, but it's just impossible for some shots to be played without a good "run up".
@@BartonSnooker Great shot on the brown, that's as much back swing as it gets for Alex 😀 Amazing how the white travels back down almost the full length of the table, then right back up past half way.
I am fan of your videos
can you make another but detailed video about grip, where you show in details and which part of palm should be touching the cue when in address position, and also i dont get the grip shape like you or most pros get after the delivery. my grip hand looks the same as address position even after the delivery but yours and most pros dont.
i couldnt find a single video on youtube where they talk about details grip
eg: in address position should the back of palm be touching the cue
can you please make a video?
thank you
I will make one 👍👍
Interesting that Higgins mentioned it a lot recently. Making things compact, shortening his cue even
these guys'timing shots are brilliant
It's all about timing !!
I couldn't hit a barn door with a spade !!
This lad is a decent stick I'd be putting on white gloves on if I played him !! 😂
Great video as per, could you tell me where did you get that tripod from please, Thanks Tony
Amazon. It's a mini tripod 👍
great video
what angle is the low power holding shot?
Specifically for Billiards, and not snooker, I notice players using short backswings since many billiards shots are really jabs. Is that expected?
what table do you use?
Very interesting video Steve 😊 when I'm playing around the reds with Pink and black in play, I always used a very short backswing for the little touch shots 😊a bit like Mark Allen & Cliff Thorburn, a very very short backswing, more of a touch shots in this area of the table 😊 not that I'm in the same league as Allen and Thorburn Thorburn 😂😂wish I was!! But mid range or long pots, I use a much longer backswing. Best wishes Steve! Ian
As always sir ❤
Thank you very much..
Hi Steve, great content as usual I've learned to many little aspects of the game from you. I've been playing with the long back swing in certain shots for a while now but I can actually see it come of line like judds action causing me to hit the wrong point on the white sometimes , is this a case of over extending the backswing.p.s how much is a half day with you? I feel I really need it to polish of the parts letting me down.
It's hard to know without watching you play. We all do a 'Judd Trump' to some extent. I'd love to show you all the stuff on do in my sessions on the table. There is so much to learn. Iron out some faults and give you a lot of extra knowledge.
Send me an email or WhatsApp if you'd ever like to book a session. Details in the video description.
Thanks Steve. But what about Ding who seems to play almost all shots except power screw backs with minimal back swing? How does he do it?
He doesn't. If he needs power or timing, he will use a long backswing.
ruclips.net/video/bHy5Ze5EqP4/видео.html
1m 56s
2m 30s
3m 55s
6m 15s
You get the idea 😅
It's just deceptive because generally on those fast tables you don't need a lot of power that often.
@@BartonSnooker very fair point. It's most evident at 3:55. I think what accentuates the view his back swing is short is that there is a very definite stop on the back swing. It's not a pause or slow down just before going forwards. It's an almost full stop. That makes it look very compact.
Thanks for taking the time to point it out. Much appreciated
Great video as always Steve. What are your thoughts on using feathers that are the same length as the final backswing on shots to develop judgement of pace and eliminate the dreaded deceleration? e.g. you need to use say a 5 out of 10 power so in theory the feathers and the final backswing would be half the distance from the cueball to the V on your bridge hand. I guess the thinking behind it is that the feathers are used to feel the pace of the shot you're about to play. So why use a 1 inch feather if you intend using a full final backswing. 🤷♂️
Just depends on the player.
Selby's feathers are the same every time, no matter what power he is using - Ronnie will vary them depending on the shot.
Feathers are there for feel. You need to do what feels natural for YOU personally to feel the shot.
@@BartonSnooker great to hear your thoughts, thanks Steve. Much appreciated👍
What are the reasons for the cue stick wobbling while backswing?
Use the chest contact to keep the cue stable when playing shots.
Hey Steve another question
Why do we amateur-intermediate players typically forget that muscle memory of soft and controlled delivery when under pressure??
We all have to try really hard to do the right things when under pressure. It's not easy!
The shorter backswing helps you nip into the cueball
Thanks
Thank you so much 😀😀
Curious to know if this video has anything to do with Luca Brecel and his massive bridge length (haven't watched yet) 😅
Ha! It doesn't, but maybe we should all try that 😁
@@BartonSnooker Not forgetting that Steve Davies was saying recently that we should all shorten our bridges; you just can't bloody win: I guess to some extent it's horses for courses.😀.
@@keyoguitar the actual bridge length is a little more variable depending on the player. But as I discuss in the video, the final backswing and delivery often HAS to be longer to allow a player to play certain types of shot 👌
Id love to wire Ronnie and Me up to a load of EMG sensors, ( like a muscle sensor) and see what the difference really is.
Is it true or not? If I apply a backswing either long or short, I have to breathe in everytime while I draw the cue back to be long or short backswing?
No. Breathe half the air out before you go into the shot. This then helps you become your most relaxed.
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Thanks as always Eddie 🙂🙂
i find it better just to keep everything natural, because if you are focusing on these things during match plays, it really throws your game off
That's right! Never make technical changes or work on things like that in a match - it can mess you up! That's what practice matches or practice sessions are for 👍
ok
I couldn't pot a plant never mind do all that !!
Look at how far Ronnie is from the cue ball when he done his fast 147, pretty sure he’s a lot closer bow
Just watched cliff thorburns maximum
He’s so far from the ball
That's right. His bridge LENGTH has decreased over the years. His BACKSWING is still very long.
Don't confuse bridge length and the final backswing.
Some players start with their hand close to the cue ball, which means a longer backswing for them is around 9-10 inches.
Someone who starts with their hand 12 inches away, can pull the cue back to the tips of their fingers, and that's a 10 inch backswing again.
So just be careful you understand that it's the distance you have to accelerate after you pull back that's important. Some players have their hand a lot closer to the white than others.
@@BartonSnooker awesome man.
Seems I was getting confused
I dont really agree and Mark allen would be case in point...I think it is more important to develop a consistant repeatable action
Well I think nothing matters ultimately. Just do whatever you like and repeat it over and over again is the key.
I guess all you're ever trying to do is copy what MOST players are doing:
So these top players use a long backswing when they need power or to generate a lot of spin:
Ronnie, Judd, Selby, Robertson, Williams, Murphy, Higgins, Brecel, Lisowski, Kyren, Carter, Ding, Milkins,
This stuff only matters though IF you can't achieve a certain shot. So if you've got players on club tables that can't pot a medium length straight green and screw back down for reds by the black, then that means they're restricted by the action. They've got a ceiling on what they can do. If they CAN play that shot with a really small backswing consistently, then great, no need to change.
A long backswing in around the black spot doesn't matter at all, some players don't use one: Mark Allen, Mark Williams, but if you've got a player that can't play a particular kind of shot, then the backswing might be something for them to consider.
most of time, amateur players make a lot of unnecessary hard shots