You must have a lot of confidence in your grip strength to perform the kogan-ryu techniques but watching you do it is terrifying. It looks like you could lose control of the blade at any moment. Still, it's very cool to see the techniques in real life. Thank you.
I practiced Nagare with my fixed blade 12 inch knife. Holding it at the hilt then releasing as I was swinging until I was holding the pommel of it before it was in front of me. I sent that knife flying a bunch of times. But I finally got it. … And I learned how to fix drywall holes! Two skills, one practice!
I think what I appreciate most about Shigurui is the insane super-human strength needed to perform these techniques. To think someone could develop their body to kill by striking with their wrist let alone grip a 2-3 pound blade between their fingers and effortlessly cut flesh and bone with such a grip.
If the anime have had Gonzaemon s battle with Irako, Fujiki s arm severed, and final Irako vs Fujiki animated, it'd be the Best samurai anime. The story s really samurai, not shonen, but as for samurai choreography, Rurouni Kenshin trust and betrayal and Ninja Scroll the movie are on another level. Btw Irako Seigen s a character any mangaka could kill to have created themselves. The story telling in Shigurui secures it's identity, wich was the greatest decision by the mangaka, also his drawing designs are really good. But i ve seen better drawing, even current Kenshin manga have Watsuki outdoing his drawing skills, designs, characters, location and what not.
English is not my native language so sorry for this explanation: i think kogan can do or create this technique is bcs he has extra finger same case as musashi who is keft handed/ ambidex so they're not bound by tradition as they use skill befitting their unique physics in Sanjuro movie final fight too the quick draw technique is unusual
All techniques with "nagare" in the name involve letting the handle slip when attacking. The sword extends by the length of the handle, allowing the sword to reach the opponent even if it would otherwise be out of reach. Because Kogan-ryu keeps these techniques secret, an unwary opponent who does not know them will misjudge the length of the sword and die.Therefore, "nagare" is a technique that aims to win preemptively. Also, the name of the slashing move after Sword Mirror is Hien-yoko-nagare(飛猿横流れ), and because it's a "nagare" this technique also requires the hand to slide all the way to the pommel.
wow, looking at u try these moves makes me realise the strenght needed to make them dangerous! Kogan was truly a nature's wonder in therms of strenght.. keep going. Kogan ryu is awesome! PS: dont kill anyone xD
It d require massive whole body energy exert to make it worthy of pulling off. The strength before the releasing has to be light speed, and thats done by releasing the blade and doing the cut with whole bodie s strength. It can be done, but to do it efficiently it could be almost impossible to replicate at master fashion for it to be actually effective. And lets not think about the ultimate mumyou sakanagare on foot. Shiiiiiiieeeeeeet.
Letting the hand move around the grip to control spacing is something that pops up a lot in European longsword techniques. There are also techniques that involve gripping the blade and using that to increase leverage. As far as gripping the blade and pulling back on it to snap at the enemy's face in a surprise attack, I'm not sure. I have NO IDEA if these sorts of techniques were used in Japanese swordplay, though. The thing about longswords is that most have a rounded pommel that would prevent the weapon from flying out of your hand as you move it across the grip; Japanese swords don't usually have anything like that, so you're relying 100% on your own grip strength and control to prevent yourself from losing your weapon.
Well, the mirror sword leaves you pretty open, but you may never know. The helmet splitting technique of the Funaki brothers was a really basic move for sword fighting from a high stance. the Nagareboshi or shooting star technique is more of a gimmick but there are many sword myths about a style that uses finger grip to release the blade instantly, sometimes from different positions, for example in dark souls 3 the black blade katana has a special animation for when you use your heavy attack when using the sword in both hands that makes you hold the tip of the sword between your fingers then going for a slice. The technique Fujiki uses the full length of the grip wasn't a traditional style choice for Samurai but it definitely exists in weapon martial arts where you use the entire length of your weapon. The Kogan Ryu's ability to use the shear strength of their fingers to grip a sword was mostly a work of fiction, there's no reason for you to do that unless you lose your fingers. Finally, Seigen's special move would be close to the real life "Fool's Guard" where you place your blade on the ground to throw off your opponent's readiness, Seigen just took it to a next level using his power and speed, to add the "Release" factor for an instant attack, he was also greeted as an unnaturally talented swordsman who barely needed training to keep up with Fujiki, only losing in the end to a dirty trick. Overall i feel like these moves aren't outside of the realm of reality, but a lot of people don't acknowledge the fact that real Samurai didn't really use katanas outside of ceremonies and maybe guarding, while the real war in those times were fought with spears and bows on horseback, and at best you'd have a short version of a katana. (i guess the majority of the show is taken place inside towns rather than on a battlefield but still.) P.S. a lot of works of fiction regarding feudal Japan show the era after the great wars were fought, where commoners and "fake samurai" regard each other as nothing more than shams, while their ancestors were the real legends of battle.
@@schwartzprime3045The duels to the death take place in 1629 and we're given flashbacks to the previous decade where Irako and Fujiki became rivals. That means they were in the early Edo period, which was long after the wars you mentioned. So yeah. The samurai caste was on the decline in the time period Shigurui is set in. The samurai we see are basically "has-beens" and scam artists (again, as you said). Very few of them would have fought in real battles as it was a peaceful era.
Battoujutsu is supposed to end the oponent in a single unwielding, so if You wanna talk about re handling to keep fighting, yes You ve got a point. But it's not the nature of Battoujutsu to keep fighting after the first cut.
a few small mistakes here and there. but A for effort. you need to read the manga multiple times and watch the anime endless times to master it theoretically/.
You must have a lot of confidence in your grip strength to perform the kogan-ryu techniques but watching you do it is terrifying. It looks like you could lose control of the blade at any moment. Still, it's very cool to see the techniques in real life. Thank you.
best seinen ever
He stole secrets of Kogan-ryuu, now they will send his best swordsmen after him...
I practiced Nagare with my fixed blade 12 inch knife. Holding it at the hilt then releasing as I was swinging until I was holding the pommel of it before it was in front of me. I sent that knife flying a bunch of times. But I finally got it. … And I learned how to fix drywall holes! Two skills, one practice!
I think what I appreciate most about Shigurui is the insane super-human strength needed to perform these techniques. To think someone could develop their body to kill by striking with their wrist let alone grip a 2-3 pound blade between their fingers and effortlessly cut flesh and bone with such a grip.
Shigurui best anime about samurai ever made
If the anime have had Gonzaemon s battle with Irako, Fujiki s arm severed, and final Irako vs Fujiki animated, it'd be the Best samurai anime. The story s really samurai, not shonen, but as for samurai choreography, Rurouni Kenshin trust and betrayal and Ninja Scroll the movie are on another level. Btw Irako Seigen s a character any mangaka could kill to have created themselves. The story telling in Shigurui secures it's identity, wich was the greatest decision by the mangaka, also his drawing designs are really good. But i ve seen better drawing, even current Kenshin manga have Watsuki outdoing his drawing skills, designs, characters, location and what not.
I love the creators other work as well
A genuine timeless classic. Shigurui
English is not my native language so sorry for this explanation: i think kogan can do or create this technique is bcs he has extra finger same case as musashi who is keft handed/ ambidex so they're not bound by tradition as they use skill befitting their unique physics in Sanjuro movie final fight too the quick draw technique is unusual
All techniques with "nagare" in the name involve letting the handle slip when attacking. The sword extends by the length of the handle, allowing the sword to reach the opponent even if it would otherwise be out of reach. Because Kogan-ryu keeps these techniques secret, an unwary opponent who does not know them will misjudge the length of the sword and die.Therefore, "nagare" is a technique that aims to win preemptively.
Also, the name of the slashing move after Sword Mirror is Hien-yoko-nagare(飛猿横流れ), and because it's a "nagare" this technique also requires the hand to slide all the way to the pommel.
I like your honesty and spirit
Very straight cuts in line with the horizon
あなたの正直さと精神が好きです
地平線に沿った非常に真っ直ぐなカット
I also practice Kogan ryu
Fujiki would never have fear of air particles
so 9 months ago someone decided to try the extended range swing that a manga author suggester like 10 years ago... this is insane
Thanks a lot for made this im practicing kendo for 11years and shigurui is my op motivation
wow, looking at u try these moves makes me realise the strenght needed to make them dangerous!
Kogan was truly a nature's wonder in therms of strenght..
keep going. Kogan ryu is awesome!
PS: dont kill anyone xD
He has extra finger
@@villaincengeng7922 his extra finger gives him unnatural power?
i think he is just naturaly strong
Good job. Keep going
This video is literally diamond!
Thank you for the video, but do you forget the mumyou sakanagare? Irako Seigen's technique.
He would need a split foot for that one.
It d require massive whole body energy exert to make it worthy of pulling off. The strength before the releasing has to be light speed, and thats done by releasing the blade and doing the cut with whole bodie s strength. It can be done, but to do it efficiently it could be almost impossible to replicate at master fashion for it to be actually effective. And lets not think about the ultimate mumyou sakanagare on foot. Shiiiiiiieeeeeeet.
That's so cool!
nagareboshi uses finger as grip not palm, its very difficult unless you have 6 fingers like kogan
Wow impressive
were these techniques ever actually used?
Letting the hand move around the grip to control spacing is something that pops up a lot in European longsword techniques. There are also techniques that involve gripping the blade and using that to increase leverage. As far as gripping the blade and pulling back on it to snap at the enemy's face in a surprise attack, I'm not sure. I have NO IDEA if these sorts of techniques were used in Japanese swordplay, though. The thing about longswords is that most have a rounded pommel that would prevent the weapon from flying out of your hand as you move it across the grip; Japanese swords don't usually have anything like that, so you're relying 100% on your own grip strength and control to prevent yourself from losing your weapon.
Well, the mirror sword leaves you pretty open, but you may never know.
The helmet splitting technique of the Funaki brothers was a really basic move for sword fighting from a high stance.
the Nagareboshi or shooting star technique is more of a gimmick but there are many sword myths about a style that uses finger grip to release the blade instantly, sometimes from different positions, for example in dark souls 3 the black blade katana has a special animation for when you use your heavy attack when using the sword in both hands that makes you hold the tip of the sword between your fingers then going for a slice.
The technique Fujiki uses the full length of the grip wasn't a traditional style choice for Samurai but it definitely exists in weapon martial arts where you use the entire length of your weapon.
The Kogan Ryu's ability to use the shear strength of their fingers to grip a sword was mostly a work of fiction, there's no reason for you to do that unless you lose your fingers.
Finally, Seigen's special move would be close to the real life "Fool's Guard" where you place your blade on the ground to throw off your opponent's readiness, Seigen just took it to a next level using his power and speed, to add the "Release" factor for an instant attack, he was also greeted as an unnaturally talented swordsman who barely needed training to keep up with Fujiki, only losing in the end to a dirty trick.
Overall i feel like these moves aren't outside of the realm of reality, but a lot of people don't acknowledge the fact that real Samurai didn't really use katanas outside of ceremonies and maybe guarding, while the real war in those times were fought with spears and bows on horseback, and at best you'd have a short version of a katana.
(i guess the majority of the show is taken place inside towns rather than on a battlefield but still.)
P.S. a lot of works of fiction regarding feudal Japan show the era after the great wars were fought, where commoners and "fake samurai" regard each other as nothing more than shams, while their ancestors were the real legends of battle.
@@schwartzprime3045The duels to the death take place in 1629 and we're given flashbacks to the previous decade where Irako and Fujiki became rivals. That means they were in the early Edo period, which was long after the wars you mentioned. So yeah. The samurai caste was on the decline in the time period Shigurui is set in. The samurai we see are basically "has-beens" and scam artists (again, as you said). Very few of them would have fought in real battles as it was a peaceful era.
抜刀時や振る前から柄頭を握っていますが、その認識は間違っています。
抜刀する際は通常と同じ位置を握るのが正解です。
抜刀後、振る際に握る握力を制御し振り切った時に柄頭を握っている状態が正解です。
そう きゅうかげつ まえ だれかが まんがかが １０ねんまえに ていあんした えんちょう れんしゅうを ためしてみることに した... これ は くるってる
Try movement from sekiro👍
sekiro is gei
Weird unstable handling. Bad idea.
Battoujutsu is supposed to end the oponent in a single unwielding, so if You wanna talk about re handling to keep fighting, yes You ve got a point. But it's not the nature of Battoujutsu to keep fighting after the first cut.
a few small mistakes here and there. but A for effort. you need to read the manga multiple times and watch the anime endless times to master it theoretically/.